Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-19 Thread Tanstaafl
On 5/16/2014 6:04 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Whatever gets rid of LVM is good on my book. I've never understood why people uses it, and in my experience it only brings headaches. One very big reason to have been using it on linux - since it is only relatively recently that zfs has been an

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-17 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 01:06:41PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote > > LVM is an excellent solution for what it was designed to do, which is to > deal with stuff like this: > > Oops. I misjudged how big /var/log needed to be and now I need to add > 50G to that partition. But it's sda6 and I have up to

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Fri, 16 May 2014 07:14:27 -0400 schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com: [...] > Also, what kernel do you need for this to > function -- and last question, how to convert an lvm volume to btrfs, or > do you just have to make some space somewhere and copy the files? I am not aware of being able to direct

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Fri, 16 May 2014 13:06:41 +0200 schrieb Alan McKinnon : > On 16/05/2014 12:04, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > Whatever gets rid of LVM is good on my book. I've never understood why > > people uses it, and in my experience it only brings headaches. > > Besides, I've heard from many people that b

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 May 2014 15:03:43 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > That's why I'm looking at btrfs. ZFS is great, it does all I want > > it to. But it is not in the kernel, which is not a major issue. > > More important is that it is based on an old version of ZFS, later > > versions are still cl

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 16.05.2014 13:56, schrieb Bruce Schultz: > >>> I ask because in all my reorganizing furor I also thought that now >>> with btrfs only I could get rid of "lvm mdraid" as dracut-modules. >>> I can try ... ;-) (don't call me "ricer") >

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread covici
Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 16.05.2014 14:54, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com: > > > Thanks much for that explanation. > > > > So where do I find some documentation for btrfs and its user space tools? > > There are many howtos and wiki-pages ... some examples, gentoo-related: > > https://b

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 16.05.2014 14:54, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com: > Thanks much for that explanation. > > So where do I find some documentation for btrfs and its user space tools? There are many howtos and wiki-pages ... some examples, gentoo-related: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Getting_started

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 16.05.2014 14:43, schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Fri, 16 May 2014 14:35:08 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > >> zfs on linux ... it works fine for me on one server, but I never >> really wanted it on my main machines (desktop and laptops) >> altho

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread covici
Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 16.05.2014 14:03, schrieb Neil Bothwick: > > On Fri, 16 May 2014 07:14:27 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > >> So far, I have liked lvm, what's the advantage of btrfs over > >> lvm? > > > > I have only looked at btrfs, with a consideration for switching

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 May 2014 14:35:08 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > zfs on linux ... it works fine for me on one server, but I never > really wanted it on my main machines (desktop and laptops) although I > once even wrote some "how to use zfs on your fully encrypted laptop" > for a magazine. It alw

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 16.05.2014 14:03, schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Fri, 16 May 2014 07:14:27 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > >> So far, I have liked lvm, what's the advantage of btrfs over >> lvm? > > I have only looked at btrfs, with a consideration for switchi

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/05/2014 13:14, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On 16/05/2014 12:04, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>> Whatever gets rid of LVM is good on my book. I've never understood why >>> people uses it, and in my experience it only brings headaches. >>> Besides, I've heard from

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 16.05.2014 13:56, schrieb Bruce Schultz: >> I ask because in all my reorganizing furor I also thought that now >> with btrfs only I could get rid of "lvm mdraid" as dracut-modules. >> I can try ... ;-) (don't call me "ricer") > > If you have a multi-disk btrfs, I think you need to add the btrf

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 May 2014 07:14:27 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > So far, I have liked lvm, what's the advantage of btrfs over lvm? I have only looked at btrfs, with a consideration for switching from ZFS, but it seems to offer the same advantages as ZFS. That is, it makes things even easier tha

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Bruce Schultz
On 16 May 2014 7:46:29 PM AEST, "Stefan G. Weichinger" wrote: >Am 15.05.2014 20:33, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger > wrote: >>> Am 15.05.2014 20:05, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >>> With -H, you don't get the kernel cmdline, and therefore

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread covici
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 16/05/2014 12:04, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > Whatever gets rid of LVM is good on my book. I've never understood why > > people uses it, and in my experience it only brings headaches. > > Besides, I've heard from many people that btrfs is the way to go in > > the futu

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/05/2014 12:04, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > Whatever gets rid of LVM is good on my book. I've never understood why > people uses it, and in my experience it only brings headaches. > Besides, I've heard from many people that btrfs is the way to go in > the future. I'm not ready to make the cha

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 15.05.2014 20:33, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >>> Am 15.05.2014 20:05, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >>> With -H, you don't get the kernel cmdline, and therefore

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.05.2014 20:33, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> Am 15.05.2014 20:05, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> >>> With -H, you don't get the kernel cmdline, and therefore your kernel >>> cannot load your LVM volumes since it doesn't know t

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 15.05.2014 20:05, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > >> With -H, you don't get the kernel cmdline, and therefore your kernel >> cannot load your LVM volumes since it doesn't know their... names? I >> don't knot the terminology. >> >> In

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-15 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.05.2014 20:27, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 15.05.2014 20:05, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > >> With -H, you don't get the kernel cmdline, and therefore your kernel >> cannot load your LVM volumes since it doesn't know their... names? I >> don't knot the terminology. >> >> In any case,

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-15 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.05.2014 20:05, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > With -H, you don't get the kernel cmdline, and therefore your kernel > cannot load your LVM volumes since it doesn't know their... names? I > don't knot the terminology. > > In any case, you need to set --hostonly-cmdline (or > hostonly_cmdline=

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 4:14 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 15.05.2014 09:08, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: >> Am 15.05.2014 08:49, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >>> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés >>> wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés >>

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-15 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.05.2014 11:58, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com: > What is kerninst? I do not see it in the repository. https://github.com/canek-pelaez/kerninst ... but it uses GRUB2

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-15 Thread covici
Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 15.05.2014 09:08, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > > Am 15.05.2014 08:49, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > >> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés > >> wrote: > >>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> [ It'

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-15 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.05.2014 09:08, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 15.05.2014 08:49, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés >> wrote: >>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés >>> wrote: >>> >>> [ It's been more than a week since I last participa

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-15 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.05.2014 08:49, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> [ It's been more than a week since I last participated in the thread, >> so I'm just replying to my last participatio

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > [ It's been more than a week since I last participated in the thread, > so I'm just replying to my last participation. ] > > Stefan, have you tried to run "dracut --print-c

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: [ It's been more than a week since I last participated in the thread, so I'm just replying to my last participation. ] Stefan, have you tried to run "dracut --print-cmdline" and add that to your kernel command line? By the last thread r

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, May 05, 2014 01:25:52 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 05.05.2014 11:14, schrieb J. Roeleveld: > > That will take some time. Earliest moment I might have the time would be > > June as I need to find a decent howto on setting up KVM along with > > libvirt on a test system. > > I do th

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 05.05.2014 11:14, schrieb J. Roeleveld: > That will take some time. Earliest moment I might have the time would be June > as I need to find a decent howto on setting up KVM along with libvirt on a > test > system. I do that for a living :-P just kidding ... S

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, May 05, 2014 09:48:50 AM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 05.05.2014 09:09, schrieb J. Roeleveld: > > Update: > > I just found the following page (didn't show up last year using Google): > > http://redes-privadas-virtuales.blogspot.nl/2011/03/taking-snapshots-on-kv > > m-with-libvirt.htm

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 05 May 2014 08:14:07 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > It was far simpler than that and did not involve copying data. You > > can change the hostname using one of the mdadm management commands > > AFAIR (I meant man mdadm not man lvm of course). > > option "--update=homehost" ? Th

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread Tom H
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 2:48 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Sunday, May 04, 2014 01:15:51 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Sat, 03 May 2014 20:40:47 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: * SystemRescueCD and the Gentoo minimal installation CD both start any raid arrays they find and apply their own

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 05.05.2014 08:52, schrieb J. Roeleveld: >> Thanks, but I had that as well ... I will skip that stuff and try going >> the UEFI-way later this day, if my customers allow ... > > Good luck (with your customers) customers quiet so far ... so I fired up a live cd and re-did all this. long story

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 05.05.2014 09:09, schrieb J. Roeleveld: > Update: > I just found the following page (didn't show up last year using Google): > http://redes-privadas-virtuales.blogspot.nl/2011/03/taking-snapshots-on-kvm-with-libvirt.html > > Memory-snapshot appears possible as well. Time to start testing this.

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-05 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, May 05, 2014 08:52:08 AM J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Monday, May 05, 2014 08:10:55 AM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > Am 04.05.2014 21:22, schrieb J. Roeleveld: > > > On Sunday, May 04, 2014 09:03:08 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > >> People run KVM-hosts with storage on ZFS ... nice wit

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, May 05, 2014 08:14:07 AM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 04.05.2014 22:09, schrieb Neil Bothwick: > > It was far simpler than that and did not involve copying data. You > > can change the hostname using one of the mdadm management commands > > AFAIR (I meant man mdadm not man lvm of cou

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, May 05, 2014 08:10:55 AM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 04.05.2014 21:22, schrieb J. Roeleveld: > > On Sunday, May 04, 2014 09:03:08 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > >> People run KVM-hosts with storage on ZFS ... nice with the > >> snapshots etc ... > > > > Does KVM support running s

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 05.05.2014 07:09, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> [snip] >>> Let me try to update this test VM to see if I can hit the same issue as >>> you. >> >> OK, I updated everythi

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 05.05.2014 07:09, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > [snip] >> Let me try to update this test VM to see if I can hit the same issue as >> you. > > OK, I updated everything, and I certainly hit an issue. With > sys-kernel/dracut-037, I ca

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 04.05.2014 22:09, schrieb Neil Bothwick: > It was far simpler than that and did not involve copying data. You > can change the hostname using one of the mdadm management commands > AFAIR (I meant man mdadm not man lvm of course). option "--update=

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 04.05.2014 21:22, schrieb J. Roeleveld: > On Sunday, May 04, 2014 09:03:08 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> People run KVM-hosts with storage on ZFS ... nice with the >> snapshots etc ... > > Does KVM support running snapshots? Eg. also storing the memory and > registers? I have not found any

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: [snip] > Let me try to update this test VM to see if I can hit the same issue as > you. OK, I updated everything, and I certainly hit an issue. With sys-kernel/dracut-037, I cannot boot; it gets stuck after loading the initramfs and it co

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 04 May 2014 20:48:05 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > ISTR that's because of the hostname stored in the RAID, so when you > > plug the array into another computer, it doesn't clobber any existing > > array names. I had this happen when transplanting an array to a new > > system. There is a s

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, May 04, 2014 09:03:08 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 04.05.2014 20:40, schrieb J. Roeleveld: > > On Sunday, May 04, 2014 03:07:28 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > >> Oh, yes, I like ZFS and its features and used it in some cases already. > >> But I didn't yet take the step to set up

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 04.05.2014 20:40, schrieb J. Roeleveld: > On Sunday, May 04, 2014 03:07:28 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> Oh, yes, I like ZFS and its features and used it in some cases already. >> But I didn't yet take the step to set up ZFS-root on my work machines. > > I haven't yet, but it's on the list

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, May 04, 2014 01:15:51 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 03 May 2014 20:40:47 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > > * SystemRescueCD and the Gentoo minimal installation CD both start > > > any raid arrays they find and apply their own names to them. It is > > > then impossible, or so I thought

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, May 04, 2014 02:22:16 PM Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday 04 May 2014 12:37:02 J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Sunday, May 04, 2014 09:53:35 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > On Saturday 03 May 2014 23:04:49 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > > > I spent nearly the whole day digging around this is

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, May 04, 2014 03:07:28 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 04.05.2014 12:49, schrieb J. Roeleveld: > > I wouldn't use the stripe/mirror support in LVM as I don't think it is > > used > > often and I feel that functionality doesn't belong in LVM. > > If you want to move it all into a singl

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 04 May 2014 12:37:02 J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Sunday, May 04, 2014 09:53:35 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Saturday 03 May 2014 23:04:49 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > > I spent nearly the whole day digging around this issue ... > > > > You did better than I did recently: I spent four

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 04.05.2014 12:49, schrieb J. Roeleveld: > I wouldn't use the stripe/mirror support in LVM as I don't think it is used > often and I feel that functionality doesn't belong in LVM. > If you want to move it all into a single layer, I would suggest ZFS instead. Oh, yes, I like ZFS and its feature

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 03 May 2014 20:40:47 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > * SystemRescueCD and the Gentoo minimal installation CD both start > > any raid arrays they find and apply their own names to them. It is > > then impossible, or so I thought, to resume an interrupted > > installation process. Of course,

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, May 04, 2014 11:15:22 AM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Do I have to change things because it's better that way, is it worth the > effort ... ? Should I go away from RAID because LVM could stripe/mirror > by itself? Should I go away from LVM because it's kinda old technology? > ... all th

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, May 04, 2014 09:53:35 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday 03 May 2014 23:04:49 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > I spent nearly the whole day digging around this issue ... > > You did better than I did recently: I spent four days at it. For mission-critical systems, I would have done

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 04.05.2014 10:53, schrieb Peter Humphrey: >> I spent nearly the whole day digging around this issue ... > > You did better than I did recently: I spent four days at it. phew! ;-) >> I wonder if I speak for more users when I say that all this is kind >> of confusing sometimes ... > > I'm wi

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 04.05.2014 03:56, schrieb Mark Pariente: > I had a similar issue after upgrading to sys-apps/systemd-212-r3. Turned > out it was due to udev rules.d directory location. I still had a bunch > of udev rules under /usr/lib64/udev/rules.d and it looks like the new > systemd/udev is only looking at r

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-04 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 03 May 2014 23:04:49 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 03.05.2014 22:50, schrieb Peter Humphrey: > >> Yes, I noticed that annoyance myself. I would much prefer it to default > >> to > >> more logical names. > > > > If the docs had included that little snippet I'd have saved myself many

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Mark Pariente
I had a similar issue after upgrading to sys-apps/systemd-212-r3. Turned out it was due to udev rules.d directory location. I still had a bunch of udev rules under /usr/lib64/udev/rules.d and it looks like the new systemd/udev is only looking at rules under /lib/udev/. The particular issue was tha

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 22:50, schrieb Peter Humphrey: >> Yes, I noticed that annoyance myself. I would much prefer it to default to >> more logical names. > > If the docs had included that little snippet I'd have saved myself many a > frustrating hour. I'll only look stupid if I tell you how many ;-) >

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 03 May 2014 20:40:47 J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Saturday, May 03, 2014 06:09:21 PM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hope I'm not butting in here, but... > > > > Although I don't run systemd nor do I have an initramfs, the grub.conf > > entry for my LVM2 setup is just these two lines: > > > > t

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 22:23, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > So I got some decent cleanup today ... removed one of the RAID-arrays > (obsolete/unused), redid my fstab completely and modified the whole > dracut/grub2/kerninst-setup ... phew! [...] > I wonder if I should keep or remove the option > "comme

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 21:53, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: >> As per the bug you posted, can you show us the contents of your >> initramfs, to check that the LVM binaries are included? And confirm >> that the binaries are the same as in your normal system? > > Hm, yes ... I was a bit faster and already a

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 21:41, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> Am 03.05.2014 21:33, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 1:35 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Saturday, May 03, 2014 01:30:43 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 03.05.2014 21:33, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 1:35 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> On Saturday, May 03, 2014 01:30:43 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés >>

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 21:33, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 1:35 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> On Saturday, May 03, 2014 01:30:43 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés >>> wrote: [...] >>> Let me try to update this test VM to see i

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: [snip] > and a shiny new bug for dracut as well: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=509492 That looks like a reasonable explanation. But it could be something else. > So even more moving parts for me no :-P In my stable machin

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 1:35 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Saturday, May 03, 2014 01:30:43 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés >> wrote: [...] >> >> > Let me try to update this test VM to see if I can hit the same issue as >> > you. >> Total: 124 pa

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 20:56, schrieb J. Roeleveld: >> Thanks for the offer, I am not yet there ;-) > > Ok. I hardly ever delete anything these days. So those are likely to remain > available in their current form for the foreseeable future. My current goal is to get a working 3.13.11 with systemd and d

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, May 03, 2014 08:51:14 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 03.05.2014 20:47, schrieb J. Roeleveld: > > On Saturday, May 03, 2014 08:37:49 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > >> Am 03.05.2014 20:33, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > >>> sys-boot/grub-2.00_p5107-r1:2 > >>> sys-kernel/dracut-033

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 20:47, schrieb J. Roeleveld: > On Saturday, May 03, 2014 08:37:49 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> Am 03.05.2014 20:33, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >>> sys-boot/grub-2.00_p5107-r1:2 >>> sys-kernel/dracut-033:0 >>> sys-apps/systemd-204:0 >>> sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.100-r2:0 >> >> great, tha

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, May 03, 2014 08:37:49 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 03.05.2014 20:33, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > > sys-boot/grub-2.00_p5107-r1:2 > > sys-kernel/dracut-033:0 > > sys-apps/systemd-204:0 > > sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.100-r2:0 > > great, thanks > > I am able to boot a kernel 3.13.4 with

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, May 03, 2014 02:38:08 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 03.05.2014 14:19, schrieb J. Roeleveld: > > On Saturday, May 03, 2014 02:09:39 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > >>> Pasta, which kind? > >> > >> Plain spaghetti with veggie sugo ... not very inspired. > > > > Can still be nice

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, May 03, 2014 06:09:21 PM Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday 03 May 2014 14:17:53 J. Roeleveld wrote: > > With genkernel, I have a lvm and mdadm boot parameter. > > With dracut, that might also be necessary. > > > > I would prefer the initramfs to do it automagically without extra > >

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 20:33, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > sys-boot/grub-2.00_p5107-r1:2 > sys-kernel/dracut-033:0 > sys-apps/systemd-204:0 > sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.100-r2:0 great, thanks I am able to boot a kernel 3.13.4 with its initramfs which was built back then with dracut-034-r1. No mdadm-raids assembl

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, May 03, 2014 01:30:43 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés > wrote: [...] > > > Let me try to update this test VM to see if I can hit the same issue as > > you. > Total: 124 packages (107 upgrades, 1 downgrade, 5 new, 2 in new slots, >

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 03.05.2014 19:25, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > >> Do you want to see any other config? > > The version numbers would be interesting: > > grub > dracut > lvm2 > systemd sys-boot/grub-2.00_p5107-r1:2 sys-kernel/dracut-033:0 sys-apps

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 19:25, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > Do you want to see any other config? The version numbers would be interesting: grub dracut lvm2 systemd ... Thanks! I configured my machine similar to yours and try the next booting ..

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: [...] > Let me try to update this test VM to see if I can hit the same issue as you. Total: 124 packages (107 upgrades, 1 downgrade, 5 new, 2 in new slots, 9 reinstalls, 1 uninstall), Size of downloads: 663,051 kB This is going to take

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 19:25, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > I'll give you my confs in my LVM2 virtual machine; my normal machines > don't use LVM2, so I don't think they'll help in any way. > > Also, if my normal machines are lagging on updates, the virtual ones > are even more behind: my LVM vm has syst

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: [snip] > An older kernel (3.13.4) boots OK ... the newer ones are screwed up > (their initramfs) ... > > Back to the start. > > As I don't boot from LVM or mdadm-raid I consider to not need any > "DRACUT_MODULES=" in /etc/portage/make.co

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 03 May 2014 14:17:53 J. Roeleveld wrote: > With genkernel, I have a lvm and mdadm boot parameter. > With dracut, that might also be necessary. > > I would prefer the initramfs to do it automagically without extra > parameters. Hope I'm not butting in here, but... Although I don't ru

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 18:51, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 03.05.2014 18:40, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: >> Am 03.05.2014 15:57, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: >>> Am 03.05.2014 15:50, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:52 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: [...] > If you boot

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 18:40, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 03.05.2014 15:57, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: >> Am 03.05.2014 15:50, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:52 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> [...] If you boot without those in fstab, then do the mdadm and lvm steps >

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 15:57, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 03.05.2014 15:50, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:52 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> [...] >>> If you boot without those in fstab, then do the mdadm and lvm steps >>> manually, >>> do you then have it " working "? >>> If

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 10:08 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On 3 May 2014 15:48:03 CEST, "Stefan G. Weichinger" wrote: >>Am 03.05.2014 15:46, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 6:37 AM, J. Roeleveld >>wrote: >>> [snip] Sounds like an issue with the mdadm script/unit. Wh

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 3 May 2014 15:48:03 CEST, "Stefan G. Weichinger" wrote: >Am 03.05.2014 15:46, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 6:37 AM, J. Roeleveld >wrote: >> [snip] >>> Sounds like an issue with the mdadm script/unit. >>> Where is Canek with his knowledge of systemd? >> >> Canek was s

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 3 May 2014 15:46:07 CEST, "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote: >On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 6:37 AM, J. Roeleveld >wrote: >[snip] >> Sounds like an issue with the mdadm script/unit. >> Where is Canek with his knowledge of systemd? > >Canek was sleeping because it was 6:37 AM on a Saturday morning. > >Regar

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 15:59, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > Regarding your problem; as I said to Joost, I have no idea what could > possibly cause the problem, but from the experiments I conducted > trying to understand what happened with systemd+LVM2, I got the > impression that this kind of issue happen

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 03.05.2014 15:46, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 6:37 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> [snip] >>> Sounds like an issue with the mdadm script/unit. >>> Where is Canek with his knowledge of systemd? >> >> Canek was s

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 15:50, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:52 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > [...] >> If you boot without those in fstab, then do the mdadm and lvm steps manually, >> do you then have it " working "? >> If yes, I would leave it for now and wait for Canek to come online

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:52 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: [...] > If you boot without those in fstab, then do the mdadm and lvm steps manually, > do you then have it " working "? > If yes, I would leave it for now and wait for Canek to come online in a few > hours. (Mexico should be awake at around 4 or

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 15:46, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 6:37 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > [snip] >> Sounds like an issue with the mdadm script/unit. >> Where is Canek with his knowledge of systemd? > > Canek was sleeping because it was 6:37 AM on a Saturday morning. hehe ;-) goo

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 6:37 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: [snip] > Sounds like an issue with the mdadm script/unit. > Where is Canek with his knowledge of systemd? Canek was sleeping because it was 6:37 AM on a Saturday morning. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Cien

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 14:52, schrieb Tom H: >> Has mdadm.service to be enabled as well? Or is that redundant in a way? > > Try "rd.md.uuid=<...>" for all the md arrays that you want to bring up. Tested that right now, no mdadm-array assembled! Thanks anyway, Stefan

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 15:08, schrieb Todd Goodman: > I wouldn't think so, but when I set up a new server somewhat recently I > needed to do the same. > > I've heard of others who don't need to do anything special so it's > likely some misconfiguration on my part. In my case it seems to be related to the

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Todd Goodman
* J. Roeleveld [140503 08:24]: > On Saturday, May 03, 2014 08:17:37 AM Todd Goodman wrote: > > > > > FWIW, I have a similar problem with mdadm and dracut and do something > > similarly to what's described in: > > > > http://rich0gentoo.wordpress.com/2012/01/21/a-quick-dracut-module/ > > After

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.05.2014 14:52, schrieb J. Roeleveld: > If you boot without those in fstab, then do the mdadm and lvm steps manually, > do you then have it " working "? yes ... everything up and accessible then. > If yes, I would leave it for now and wait for Canek to come online in a few > hours. (Mexic

Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems

2014-05-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, May 03, 2014 02:43:39 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 03.05.2014 14:17, schrieb J. Roeleveld: > >> (Don't ask for the strange setup with sdb3/sdc6 and sdb6/sdc3, > >> historically grown somehow ...) > > > > Seen stranger, it works. > > What do the logs show when enabling them? Any

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