Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-04 Thread Tero Grundström
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, W.Kenworthy wrote:

 This will probably stir up some flames, but:

 the package.keywords system sucks

 1. you put things in there and you forget about them
 2. extra work for no user gain over the old system (I know the old
 system is broke, but from what I agther it was broken on purpose to
 create the package.keyword system.)
 3. more complex than the simple system it replaced - it is now quite
 hard to work out the interactions sometimes
 4. ACCEPT_KEYWORDS seems to work well for a half doz or so ~x86 packages

 I will probably have to use them next time I rebuild world with a -e,
 but after stuffing things up over a couple of months with the
 package.keywords and related files, wasting time trying find whats gone
 wrong, I am better off doing the ACCEPT keywords kludge and getting on
 with actually using the system.  At least when you do an update, you SEE
 what is ~x86, not have it hidden away in the depths building up
 problems.

 Maybe a bad gentooer, but at least I am happy that I am doing things in
 a way that I understand, and works the way I want it to!

 BillK

If you cannot understand or appreciate a simple and very usefull feature
like package.keywords, how are you able to use Gentoo at all?!

The way you're doing things means that you are not able to use a command
like 'emerge -u world' as all ~arch packages will get downgraded.

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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-04 Thread William Kenworthy
Exactly - have you have been around gentoo long enough to remember the
elegantly simple -u and -U mechanism we used to have to control
upgrade/downgrade.  Instead we have a bunch of files that were initially
poorly documented (when this was released), and in practise for me at
least, are a backward step in application and use.

Maybe its harking back to simpler days, but this is a change that broke
a system for me, caused a lot of wasted time, and seems a needless
complication to a simple system.

BillK

On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 12:19 +0200, Tero Grundström wrote:
 On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, W.Kenworthy wrote:
 
...

 
 If you cannot understand or appreciate a simple and very usefull feature
 like package.keywords, how are you able to use Gentoo at all?!
 
 The way you're doing things means that you are not able to use a command
 like 'emerge -u world' as all ~arch packages will get downgraded.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-04 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 19:57:24 +0800, William Kenworthy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Exactly - have you have been around gentoo long enough to remember the
 elegantly simple -u and -U mechanism we used to have to control
 upgrade/downgrade.  

Yes, most of us have been around long enough to remember that the
elegantly simple mechanism you refer to that seemed to work was
inherently broken and left your portage database in an anomalous
state.

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RE: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-04 Thread Dave Nebinger
 Thanks, but I've already added those to my package.mask, but the 1.0-6111
 nVidia kernel module refuses to compile on 2.6.11 and most its the release
 candidates for me.

When I was using nvidia I downloaded the 6111 release from nvidia.com and
had to modify some of the code to get it to compile for 2.6.10.  Below is a
note that I made for myself of the changes that I made, they'll probably
work for you also:

winux nvidia # cat nvidia.changes

12/30/2004 - dnebing - I modified the usr/src/nv/nv.c to do the following:

1. Replace pci_find_class() with pci_get_class().  The arguments are the
same, but pci_find_class was removed and replaced with pci_get_class().
Replacement builds successfully with this change.

2. Declare __VMALLOC_RESERVE.  Don't know what value it should have, but a
value must be defined for it to work.  I used unsigned int
__VMALLOC_RESERVE = 128  20;.

After making these changes, the regular installer will work successfully.




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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-03 Thread Chris Cox
On Thursday 03 March 2005 12:02 am, Peter Gordon wrote:

 Dang it..this is one reason I hate proprietary drivers. The 1.0-6629 driver
 doesn't work for me (Riva TNT2 M64), and the compile fix isn't being
 backported to 1.0-6111 *sigh* Ah well. nv suits me fine until I get my
 shiny new R9250 from NewEgg =)

Put the following in your /etc/portage/package.mask (create the file if it 
doesn't exist)  :
=media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629
=media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.6629

Then emerge nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx and try this version of the nvidia 
driver.  All versions above nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3 do not work for me.  So 
I finally just excepted that fact and masked everything =1.0.6629.

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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-03 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Adis Beglerovic ha scritto:
Hi all
I've just downloaded 2.6.11 and compile it om my gentoo desktop box.
Tried to add/compile nvidia-kernel but got error that says: 
--

make[3]: *** 
[/var/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.o]
Error 1
make[2]: *** 
[_module_/var/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1/usr/src/nv]
Error 2
NVIDIA: left KBUILD.
nvidia.ko failed to build!
make[1]: *** [module] Error 1
make: *** [module] Error 2
!!! ERROR: media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1 failed.
!!! Function linux-mod_src_compile, Line 417, Exitcode 2
!!! Unable to make 
IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes V=1 SYSSRC=/usr/src/linux SYSOUT=/usr/src/linux
clean module.
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.


Anyone else got this error ??
Thanks.. 
PS
Besides nvidia error everything else is fine
yesterday, I've removed rc5 (that had problems with 
vidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r3 too ) and compiled the same version for 2.6.11, 
without problems.
Try to use vidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r3 following the other usefull posts on 
this thread ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-03 Thread Raphael Melo
When I tried to install it, there were problems with shared memory.
But it was on 2.6.4 I guess. They probably fixed it.


On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 15:13:18 +0100, Ulrich Anhalt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Raphael,
 
 what are your problems with oracle on kernel 2.6.x?. I'm running oracle
 on gentoo 2.6.7 kernel without problems?
 
 Ulli
 
 Am Mittwoch, den 02.03.2005, 13:50 + schrieb Raphael Melo:
  By the way, I had problems with oracle on kernel 2.6.x. Does that still 
  happens?
 
 
  On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 12:25:55 +0100, Bastian Balthazar Bux
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Ralph Slooten ha scritto:
Good observation .. it's not even on the front page on kernel.org or on
slashdot yet ;-)
  
   Well not so difficult, Linus Torwalds post on the linux kernel mailing
   list with a very clear subject ;)
  
   
I am using the 2.6.11-rc5 version on my laptop which I cannot complain
about. I haven't gotten around to testing all the extra hardware yet (I
only installed it 2 days ago), so I guess I cannot accurately say it's
all good ... I read a post though (by Linus) that mentioned several
improvements for laptops (acpi etc).
   
Greetings
Ralph
   
Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
   
   Rumors are that this will be the more stable version of the last 2.6
   series.
   What do you think about ?
   
   
   
   
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-03 Thread Peter Gordon
Chris Cox wrote:
Put the following in your /etc/portage/package.mask (create the file if it
doesn't exist)  :
=media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629
=media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.6629
Then emerge nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx and try this version of the nvidia
driver.  All versions above nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3 do not work for me.  So
I finally just excepted that fact and masked everything =1.0.6629.
Thanks, but I've already added those to my package.mask, but the 1.0-6111
nVidia kernel module refuses to compile on 2.6.11 and most its the release
candidates for me.
I'm ok with it though. I rarely play games and I have no need for hardware
which can only work with proprietary drivers. Is it idealistic? Very. Is it
impractical? Probably to some. The less proprietary software I use the better.
Coincidentally, I haven't had X hardlock on me for quite some time now... ;-)
Thanks anyway though. :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Ralph Slooten
Good observation .. it's not even on the front page on kernel.org or on
slashdot yet ;-)

I am using the 2.6.11-rc5 version on my laptop which I cannot complain
about. I haven't gotten around to testing all the extra hardware yet (I
only installed it 2 days ago), so I guess I cannot accurately say it's
all good ... I read a post though (by Linus) that mentioned several
improvements for laptops (acpi etc).

Greetings
Ralph

Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
 Rumors are that this will be the more stable version of the last 2.6
 series.
 What do you think about ?
 
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Raphael Melo
We'll have to test it, won't we? ;)


On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 11:48:22 +0100, Bastian Balthazar Bux
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 Rumors are that this will be the more stable version of the last 2.6 series.
 What do you think about ?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Eugene Rosenzweig
Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
Rumors are that this will be the more stable version of the last 2.6 
series.
What do you think about ?
It's simplistic but I would say every release of the kernel ought to be 
more stable than the previous one. After all, the Changelogs are very 
long and full of patches. Those patches are bound to be doing good. On a 
more practical side, I never had even one problem with 2.6 kernels... I 
think I started around 2.6.5 though and mostly ran them extensively in 
server roles without major stress. My user experience is all positive

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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Eugene Rosenzweig
Ralph Slooten wrote:
Good observation .. it's not even on the front page on kernel.org or on
slashdot yet ;-)
Its been announced on one of the mailing lists. I get it through 
gmane.linux.kernel.announce newsgroup.

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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Ralph Slooten ha scritto:
Good observation .. it's not even on the front page on kernel.org or on
slashdot yet ;-)
Well not so difficult, Linus Torwalds post on the linux kernel mailing 
list with a very clear subject ;)

I am using the 2.6.11-rc5 version on my laptop which I cannot complain
about. I haven't gotten around to testing all the extra hardware yet (I
only installed it 2 days ago), so I guess I cannot accurately say it's
all good ... I read a post though (by Linus) that mentioned several
improvements for laptops (acpi etc).
Greetings
Ralph
Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
Rumors are that this will be the more stable version of the last 2.6
series.
What do you think about ?


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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Raphael Melo
By the way, I had problems with oracle on kernel 2.6.x. Does that still happens?


On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 12:25:55 +0100, Bastian Balthazar Bux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ralph Slooten ha scritto:
  Good observation .. it's not even on the front page on kernel.org or on
  slashdot yet ;-)
 
 Well not so difficult, Linus Torwalds post on the linux kernel mailing
 list with a very clear subject ;)
 
 
  I am using the 2.6.11-rc5 version on my laptop which I cannot complain
  about. I haven't gotten around to testing all the extra hardware yet (I
  only installed it 2 days ago), so I guess I cannot accurately say it's
  all good ... I read a post though (by Linus) that mentioned several
  improvements for laptops (acpi etc).
 
  Greetings
  Ralph
 
  Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
 
 Rumors are that this will be the more stable version of the last 2.6
 series.
 What do you think about ?
 
 
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Ulrich Anhalt
Hi Raphael,

what are your problems with oracle on kernel 2.6.x?. I'm running oracle
on gentoo 2.6.7 kernel without problems?

Ulli

Am Mittwoch, den 02.03.2005, 13:50 + schrieb Raphael Melo:
 By the way, I had problems with oracle on kernel 2.6.x. Does that still 
 happens?
 
 
 On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 12:25:55 +0100, Bastian Balthazar Bux
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ralph Slooten ha scritto:
   Good observation .. it's not even on the front page on kernel.org or on
   slashdot yet ;-)
  
  Well not so difficult, Linus Torwalds post on the linux kernel mailing
  list with a very clear subject ;)
  
  
   I am using the 2.6.11-rc5 version on my laptop which I cannot complain
   about. I haven't gotten around to testing all the extra hardware yet (I
   only installed it 2 days ago), so I guess I cannot accurately say it's
   all good ... I read a post though (by Linus) that mentioned several
   improvements for laptops (acpi etc).
  
   Greetings
   Ralph
  
   Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
  
  Rumors are that this will be the more stable version of the last 2.6
  series.
  What do you think about ?
  
  
  
  
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RE: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Mike Turcotte
I am fairly new to Gentoo and portage. How long are you expecting it to
take before the new kernel is 'emergable'?

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Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

It has just been released on www.kernel.org 
Happy compiling ;)

  Good observation .. it's not even on the front page on kernel.org or
on
  slashdot yet ;-)
 
 Well not so difficult, Linus Torwalds post on the linux kernel mailing
 list with a very clear subject ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 10:38:18 -0500, Mike Turcotte wrote:

 I am fairly new to Gentoo and portage. How long are you expecting it to
 take before the new kernel is 'emergable'?

development-sources-2.6.11, the vanilla 2.6.11 kernel, is already in
Portage. I expect gentoo-dev-sources will be upgraded by tomorrow.


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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Rumen Yotov
Mike Turcotte wrote:
I am fairly new to Gentoo and portage. How long are you expecting it to
take before the new kernel is 'emergable'?
Michael Turcotte
Information Systems
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-Original Message-
From: Marko Kocic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

It has just been released on www.kernel.org 
Happy compiling ;)


Good observation .. it's not even on the front page on kernel.org or
on
slashdot yet ;-)
Well not so difficult, Linus Torwalds post on the linux kernel mailing
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Hi,
Usually at most a day or two, but could be available even later today, 
it'll be in development-sources first.
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Marko Kocic
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 15:54:34 +, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 10:38:18 -0500, Mike Turcotte wrote:
 
  I am fairly new to Gentoo and portage. How long are you expecting it to
  take before the new kernel is 'emergable'?
 
 development-sources-2.6.11, the vanilla 2.6.11 kernel, is already in
 Portage. I expect gentoo-dev-sources will be upgraded by tomorrow.
 

Both development-sources-2.6.11 and vanilla-sources-2.6.11 are both
listed on packages.gentoo.org.
Could someone explain me what's the difference between them?
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 17:11, Marko Kocic wrote:

 Both development-sources-2.6.11 and vanilla-sources-2.6.11 are both
 listed on packages.gentoo.org.
 Could someone explain me what's the difference between them?

IIRC, they are the same. vanilla-sources is the new name for the standard 
kernel sources.
I guess you are encouraged to use the new name.

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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Holly Bostick
Marko Kocic wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 15:54:34 +, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 10:38:18 -0500, Mike Turcotte wrote:
I am fairly new to Gentoo and portage. How long are you expecting it to
take before the new kernel is 'emergable'?
development-sources-2.6.11, the vanilla 2.6.11 kernel, is already in
Portage. I expect gentoo-dev-sources will be upgraded by tomorrow.
Both development-sources-2.6.11 and vanilla-sources-2.6.11 are both
listed on packages.gentoo.org.
Could someone explain me what's the difference between them?
To the best of my knowlege, none; afaik, this relates to the transition 
between the 2004.3 profile (under which development-sources is the 2.6 
series kernel from kernel.org, and vanilla-sources is the 'default' 2.4 
series kernel), and the forthcoming 2005.0 profile (under which the 2.6 
kernel becomes default, so vanilla-sources refers to the 2.6-series 
kernel from kerne.org, and development-sources... goes away, I guess, 
unless it becomes a reference to *real* development sources, like 2.7/2.8).

So I would imagine that they both point to the same kernel, but this is 
a transitional phase until the 2005.0 profile is actually released.

Corrections gratefully accepted, but I think that's how it's working atm.
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Marko Kocic ha scritto:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 15:54:34 +, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 10:38:18 -0500, Mike Turcotte wrote:

I am fairly new to Gentoo and portage. How long are you expecting it to
take before the new kernel is 'emergable'?
development-sources-2.6.11, the vanilla 2.6.11 kernel, is already in
Portage. I expect gentoo-dev-sources will be upgraded by tomorrow.

Both development-sources-2.6.11 and vanilla-sources-2.6.11 are both
listed on packages.gentoo.org.
Could someone explain me what's the difference between them?
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#diff -U 0\
development-sources/development-sources-2.6.11_rc5.ebuild \
vanilla-sources/vanilla-sources-2.6.11_rc5.ebuild
@@ -12 +12 @@
-DESCRIPTION=Full sources for the vanilla 2.6 kernel tree
+DESCRIPTION=Full sources for the Linux kernel
no differences for the moment, probably when 2.7 will be out
vanilla will follow the 2.6 series, development the 2.7 one
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:11:35 +0100, Marko Kocic wrote:

 Both development-sources-2.6.11 and vanilla-sources-2.6.11 are both
 listed on packages.gentoo.org.
 Could someone explain me what's the difference between them?

vanilla-sources-2.6.11 is hard masked. It is ready for when 2.6 becomes
the default kernel with the 2005.0 release; vanilla-sources and
gentoo-sources will replace development-source and gentoo-dev-sources
respectively.


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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Kashani
Raphael Melo wrote:
By the way, I had problems with oracle on kernel 2.6.x. Does that still happens?
In my experirence Oracle tends to care more about the version of your C 
libraries and gcc than the kernel. There are a few posts on the forums 
about getting the right libs for Oracle under Gentoo. I've current got 
Oracle 10g running on RHEL v4 which is using kernel 2.6.9.

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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Adis Beglerovic
Hi all

I've just downloaded 2.6.11 and compile it om my gentoo desktop box.
Tried to add/compile nvidia-kernel but got error that says: 
--

make[3]: *** 
[/var/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.o]
Error 1
make[2]: *** 
[_module_/var/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1/usr/src/nv]
Error 2
NVIDIA: left KBUILD.
nvidia.ko failed to build!
make[1]: *** [module] Error 1
make: *** [module] Error 2

!!! ERROR: media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1 failed.
!!! Function linux-mod_src_compile, Line 417, Exitcode 2
!!! Unable to make 
IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes V=1 SYSSRC=/usr/src/linux SYSOUT=/usr/src/linux
clean module.
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.


Anyone else got this error ??

Thanks.. 
PS
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux

no differences for the moment, probably when 2.7 will be out
vanilla will follow the 2.6 series, development the 2.7 one
as Neil pointed out =sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6 is masked so what 
I've said before is *not* true.
You may want to use development-sources untill 2.6 will be unmasked.
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 17:25, Neil Bothwick wrote:

 vanilla-sources-2.6.11 is hard masked. It is ready for when 2.6 becomes
 the default kernel with the 2005.0 release; vanilla-sources and
 gentoo-sources will replace development-source and gentoo-dev-sources
 respectively.

Since they really point to the same packages, if one is already using 
development-sources and linux26-headers, it's possible to have them with the 
new names, using an appropriate /etc/portage/package.unmask file.

That's what I did (sort of mini-howto, Works For Me (tm), FWIW):

- I had development-sources-2.6.11_rc5 and linux26-headers-2.6.8.1-r2

- emerge -C development-sources 
- emerge -C linux26-headers

- echo sys-kernel/vanilla-sources ~x86  /etc/portage/package.keywords
- echo sys-kernel/linux-headers ~x86  /etc/portage/package.keywords
(just changed the old development-sources and linux26-headers entries)

- echo sys-kernel/vanilla-sources  /etc/portage/package.unmask
- echo =sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-r2  /etc/portage/package.unmask
(the latter I did since I don't want linux-headers-2.6.10 yet)

- emerge linux-headers (brings in linux headers 2.6.8.1-r2)
- emerge vanilla-sources   (brings in linux-2.6.11_rc5)

and I have the same setup as before, but with the new names.

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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Adis Beglerovic ha scritto:
Hi all
I've just downloaded 2.6.11 and compile it om my gentoo desktop box.
Tried to add/compile nvidia-kernel but got error that says: 
--

make[3]: *** 
[/var/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.o]
Error 1
make[2]: *** 
[_module_/var/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1/usr/src/nv]
Error 2
NVIDIA: left KBUILD.
nvidia.ko failed to build!
make[1]: *** [module] Error 1
make: *** [module] Error 2
!!! ERROR: media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1 failed.
!!! Function linux-mod_src_compile, Line 417, Exitcode 2
!!! Unable to make 
IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes V=1 SYSSRC=/usr/src/linux SYSOUT=/usr/src/linux
clean module.
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.


Anyone else got this error ??
yes, yesterday, with 2.6.11-rc5, that is quite the same as 2.6.11.

Thanks.. 
PS
Besides nvidia error everything else is fine
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Richard Brown
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:34:12 +0100, Adis Beglerovic
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all
 
 I've just downloaded 2.6.11 and compile it om my gentoo desktop box.
 Tried to add/compile nvidia-kernel but got error that says:

nvidia-kernel won't work with a vanilla 2.6.11, you'll have to wait
for an ebuild for ck or gentoo-dev-sources

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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Adis Beglerovic
Well this is the first time that nvidia-kernel can't compile with vanilla kernel
downloaded from kernel.org. There must be something that can be done ?
New version of nvidia-kernel maybe ?
Thanks

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:03:06 +, Richard Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:34:12 +0100, Adis Beglerovic
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all
 
  I've just downloaded 2.6.11 and compile it om my gentoo desktop box.
  Tried to add/compile nvidia-kernel but got error that says:
 
 nvidia-kernel won't work with a vanilla 2.6.11, you'll have to wait
 for an ebuild for ck or gentoo-dev-sources
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 17:55, Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:

 yes, yesterday, with 2.6.11-rc5, that is quite the same as 2.6.11.

I'm using nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r3 with 2.6.11-rc5 with no problem.
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Adis Beglerovic
Yes 

Using ~x86 packages of nvidia made possible to compile it with vanilla 2.6.11.
So fix is ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx

Good luck


On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:12:40 +0100, Etaoin Shrdlu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 02 March 2005 17:55, Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
 
  yes, yesterday, with 2.6.11-rc5, that is quite the same as 2.6.11.
 
 I'm using nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r3 with 2.6.11-rc5 with no problem.
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:19:49 +0100, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:

 IIRC, they are the same. vanilla-sources is the new name for the
 standard  kernel sources.
 I guess you are encouraged to use the new name.

You still have to use the old name, for now. vanilla-sources-2.6 is hard
masked.

$ grep vanilla /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask -B 7
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] (1/12/2004)
# Masking all 2.6 versions of kernel packages which were originally
# 2.4 only so that we can merge 2.6 with 2.4 without forcing a
# mass upgrade.
=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6
=sys-kernel/hardened-sources-2.6
=sys-kernel/rsbac-sources-2.6
=sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6

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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 18:09, Adis Beglerovic wrote:
 Well this is the first time that nvidia-kernel can't compile with vanilla
 kernel downloaded from kernel.org. There must be something that can be done
 ? New version of nvidia-kernel maybe ?
 Thanks

nope, it isn't. There are a lot of patches out in the wild to make certain 
driver versions work with various kernels.

Have you already tried the latest version? (not the latest stable version)
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Willie Wong
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 05:55:38PM +0100, Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
 Adis Beglerovic ha scritto:
 [/var/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.o]
 Error 1
 make[2]: *** 
 [_module_/var/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1/usr/src/nv]
 Error 2
 NVIDIA: left KBUILD.
 nvidia.ko failed to build!
 make[1]: *** [module] Error 1
 make: *** [module] Error 2

 Anyone else got this error ??
 
 yes, yesterday, with 2.6.11-rc5, that is quite the same as 2.6.11.
 
 

the bug has been known since 2.6.11rc2
Use keyword ~x86 and emerge nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r2 or higher. 
nvidia submitted a patch, but it is not marked stable yet. 

W
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread Daniel Drake
Richard Brown wrote:
nvidia-kernel won't work with a vanilla 2.6.11, you'll have to wait
for an ebuild for ck or gentoo-dev-sources
I don't think you are right here. gentoo-dev-sources is not patched with 
anything that would aid nvidia compatibility.

I think you might be right in saying that nvidia's own driver release doesn't 
compile against 2.6.11 (yet). But in portage, we patch nvidia's driver 
(nvidia-kernel) with fixes for this. Using the latest testing version of 
nvidia-kernel should be fine.

Daniel
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-02 Thread W.Kenworthy
This will probably stir up some flames, but:

the package.keywords system sucks

1. you put things in there and you forget about them
2. extra work for no user gain over the old system (I know the old
system is broke, but from what I agther it was broken on purpose to
create the package.keyword system.)
3. more complex than the simple system it replaced - it is now quite
hard to work out the interactions sometimes
4. ACCEPT_KEYWORDS seems to work well for a half doz or so ~x86 packages

I will probably have to use them next time I rebuild world with a -e,
but after stuffing things up over a couple of months with the
package.keywords and related files, wasting time trying find whats gone
wrong, I am better off doing the ACCEPT keywords kludge and getting on
with actually using the system.  At least when you do an update, you SEE
what is ~x86, not have it hidden away in the depths building up
problems.

Maybe a bad gentooer, but at least I am happy that I am doing things in
a way that I understand, and works the way I want it to!

BillK


On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 22:02 -0800, Peter Gordon wrote:
 Adis Beglerovic wrote:
  Using ~x86 packages of nvidia made possible to compile it with vanilla 
  2.6.11.
  So fix is ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx
 
 Waah! ='(
 
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