On Tuesday 03 June 2014 10:39:10 »Q« wrote:
I figured out what I wanted to do (uninstall upower, install
upower-pm-utils) by reading the changelogs, but I don't know what my
other options were. Could I have stuck with upower, letting it pull in
systemd, without messing up openrc?
Apparently
On 06/03/2014 10:05 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Greg Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Sure, systemd is a more elegant solution than the patchworks that have
been applied several times to the original SysV concept.
Glad to see you recognize that.
Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen:
On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
No, sys-fs/udev is not masked, but an update is indicated in the
emerge above. That's a good catch, the MATE stuff is from the overlay.
Unfortunately, the xfce stuff is not, so even if the overlay
Am 04.06.2014 13:22, schrieb Daniel Troeder:
Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen:
On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
No, sys-fs/udev is not masked, but an update is indicated in the
emerge above. That's a good catch, the MATE stuff is from the overlay.
Unfortunately, the
On 6/3/2014 1:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 6/3/2014 11:10 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe. The thing is, this is going to keep happening, as more and more
infrastructure
On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:17:21 -0400
Dutch Ingraham s...@gmx.us wrote:
That's a good catch, the MATE stuff is from the overlay.
MATE 1.6 is stable in the Portage tree, MATE 1.8 is testing in the
Portage tree; both had their upower dependencies fixed up days ago.
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With kind regards,
Tom
On 04/06/14 15:15, Daniel Troeder wrote:
Am 04.06.2014 13:22, schrieb Daniel Troeder:
Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen:
On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
No, sys-fs/udev is not masked, but an update is indicated in the
emerge above. That's a good catch, the MATE stuff is
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
And yes, as devs get lazier (decide to rely on systemd rather than build it
to work independently of the init system), this will in fact result in
*users* (read: those lacking the skills to code every program out there
On 04/06/14 15:21, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 6/3/2014 1:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Tanstaafl
tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 6/3/2014 11:10 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe. The thing is, this is going to keep
On 04/06/14 15:58, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
And yes, as devs get lazier (decide to rely on systemd rather than build it
to work independently of the init system), this will in fact result in
*users* (read: those lacking the
On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 08:21:51 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
And yes, as devs get lazier (decide to rely on systemd rather than
build it to work independently of the init system),
Reusing existing, proven code is not laziness, it is efficiency. Yes,
they could code their own version, but all the time
On 04/06/14 16:47, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 08:21:51 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
And yes, as devs get lazier (decide to rely on systemd rather than
build it to work independently of the init system),
Reusing existing, proven code is not laziness, it is efficiency. Yes,
they
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 5:28 AM, Greg Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/03/2014 10:05 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Greg Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Sure, systemd is a more elegant solution than the patchworks that have
been applied several times
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 6/3/2014 1:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
[ ... ]
Who is forcing anything?
I was specifically referring to your comment that:
The thing is, this is going to keep happening, as more and more
On 06/04/2014 07:22 AM, Daniel Troeder wrote:
Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen:
On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
No, sys-fs/udev is not masked, but an update is indicated in the
emerge above. That's a good catch, the MATE stuff is from the overlay.
Unfortunately, the
john jdm at jdm.myzen.co.uk writes:
On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 18:11:11 -0400
covici at ccs.covici.com wrote:
James wireless at tampabay.rr.com wrote:
john jdm at jdm.myzen.co.uk writes:
lxqt is up and running in Gentoo. It's listed in packages.
The only problem I had was
Am Wed, 04 Jun 2014 16:08:02 +0300
schrieb Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org:
[...]
So yeah, only working with what upstreams provide as a distribution
maintainer/packager, and people shouldn't try to dump this somehow on
me. Fact that
they have some fallback, like upower-pm-utils at all,
Hello list,
The current debate over upower and upower-pm-utils has got me thinking (yes, I
know): is it possible to install Gentoo on a desktop or a mini-server without
any PM at all? I've been browsing the Web but not found much, and I don't see
any clues in USE flags.
Maybe things like
On Wednesday 04 June 2014 20:28:22 Marc Joliet wrote:
I'm grateful! In fact, since I have this opportunity: thank you and all the
other devs for your hard work, and for withstanding insufferable users :) .
[AOL]
Me too.
[/AOL]
--
Regards
Peter
Hello everybody,
I have a compliment of older x86 and amd64 boxes that I use for
testing things; new or specialized gentoo offerings and such. Mostly amd64.
Many of the older ide/ata drive systems have front loaded carriers
that have quick hot swap feature that make it easy to shut down
a
On 04/06/14 20:11, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/04/2014 07:22 AM, Daniel Troeder wrote:
Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen:
On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
No, sys-fs/udev is not masked, but an update is indicated in the
emerge above. That's a good catch, the MATE stuff is
On 04/06/14 21:44, Peter Humphrey wrote:
Hello list,
The current debate over upower and upower-pm-utils has got me thinking (yes,
I
know): is it possible to install Gentoo on a desktop or a mini-server without
any PM at all?
Of course. It's USE=-upower to make.conf and couple of
On 04/06/14 22:27, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 04/06/14 21:44, Peter Humphrey wrote:
Hello list,
The current debate over upower and upower-pm-utils has got me thinking (yes,
I
know): is it possible to install Gentoo on a desktop or a mini-server
without
any PM at all?
Of course. It's
On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 11:54:52AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 12:06:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
If you encrypt your home directory then you unlock it when you log in so
logging out of your DE safely locks things again.
I encrypt my home partition with LUKS and enter
On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:06:07 +0200
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
The good news is that the version of upower prior to this decision
still works fine and likely will for ages to come. That code has been
bundled into a new package upower-pm-utils.
Anyone that feels like doing
On 05/06/14 01:14, »Q« wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:06:07 +0200
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
The good news is that the version of upower prior to this decision
still works fine and likely will for ages to come. That code has been
bundled into a new package upower-pm-utils.
On 06/04/2014 03:17 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 04/06/14 20:11, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/04/2014 07:22 AM, Daniel Troeder wrote:
Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen:
On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
No, sys-fs/udev is not masked, but an update is indicated in the
On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 21:59:18 +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
I encrypt my home partition with LUKS and enter a passphrase
during boot. But I always wanted to get decryption upon login running,
especially because it would require me to enter one less password. But
haven’t gotten around to that
On 04/06/2014 21:16, James wrote:
Hello everybody,
I have a compliment of older x86 and amd64 boxes that I use for
testing things; new or specialized gentoo offerings and such. Mostly amd64.
Many of the older ide/ata drive systems have front loaded carriers
that have quick hot swap feature
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:15 AM, Dutch Ingraham s...@gmx.us wrote:
On 06/04/2014 03:17 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 04/06/14 20:11, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/04/2014 07:22 AM, Daniel Troeder wrote:
Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen:
On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
No,
On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 19:15:22 -0400, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
I suppose its now time for an uninstall. Kind of disappointing; we are
told Gentoo is about choices, and in fact that's true. I made the
choice to use a pure openRC system. The last 7 hours of free time,
though, was spent trying,
On 05/06/14 02:15, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/04/2014 03:17 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 04/06/14 20:11, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/04/2014 07:22 AM, Daniel Troeder wrote:
Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen:
On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
No, sys-fs/udev is not
On 05/06/14 02:25, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:15 AM, Dutch Ingraham s...@gmx.us wrote:
On 06/04/2014 03:17 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 04/06/14 20:11, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/04/2014 07:22 AM, Daniel Troeder wrote:
Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen:
On
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 3:07 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 05/06/14 02:25, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:15 AM, Dutch Ingraham s...@gmx.us wrote:
On 06/04/2014 03:17 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 04/06/14 20:11, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/04/2014 07:22 AM,
On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 07:16:33PM +, James wrote
Anyway, I'd like to hear all of the ideas, including various
disciplined (structured) approaches I can take to minimize uniqueness
in my lab and what I'm currently doing (mostly). I also have usb
sticks, but I've found booting various
On 05/06/14 03:22, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
This effected stable tree of Gentoo as well, pulling undesired
different layout into stable is something that should have been
avoided. It is about time we split the profiles, systemd is not option
for people who runs openrc.
Indeed, I support the idea
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 05/06/14 03:22, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
This effected stable tree of Gentoo as well, pulling undesired
different layout into stable is something that should have been
avoided. It is about time we split the profiles,
On Wednesday 04 Jun 2014 23:27:05 Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 05/06/14 01:14, »Q« wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:06:07 +0200
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
The good news is that the version of upower prior to this decision
still works fine and likely will for ages to come.
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