Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-28 Thread R0b0t1
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Ста Деюс wrote: > Hi. > > > Why bash script (the install script), that works in "Debian", does not > work on "Gentoo" install CD, giving me syntax errors (basically related > to '(', ')' and ''')? In the script is the interpreter line >

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-28 Thread R0b0t1
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:14 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: > The installation process at its core involves preparing the disks and > then extracting the stage 3 to them. Sorry, I forgot to add: This part, if you don't want anything special, is maybe 3 lines or so; if you want something

[gentoo-user] Re: Updating an old version of Gentoo

2017-07-28 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Thu, 27 Jul 2017 17:14:17 +0200 schrieb Arve Barsnes : > > > > On Thursday 27 Jul 2017 09:48:43 symack wrote: > > > There must be an easy way to do this. Something like download the > > > latest portage and source package. Untar on live system and > > > rebuild! That

Re: [gentoo-user] BOINC on a hardened system?

2017-07-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 27 Jul 2017 11:02:45 Gregory Woodbury wrote: > Depending on which BOINC projects you choose to run, BOINC may or may > not need continual access to the Internet. > Most of the projects I run only need intermittent access to upload and > receive new workunits, but CERN projects need >

[gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-28 Thread Ста Деюс
Hi. Why bash script (the install script), that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD, giving me syntax errors (basically related to '(', ')' and ''')? In the script is the interpreter line #!/bin/bash and both systems contain bash, that interprets the script, why the

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 28 Jul 2017 22:31:22 Ста Деюс wrote: > Hi. > > > Why bash script (the install script), that works in "Debian", does not > work on "Gentoo" install CD, giving me syntax errors (basically related > to '(', ')' and ''')? In the script is the interpreter line > > #!/bin/bash You say that

[gentoo-user] [OT] build programs in other distros

2017-07-28 Thread Francisco Ares
Hi, All. I've used a few distros, but mostly for curiosity. Being a Gentoo user for ... well, more than a decade, I'm used to build binaries in a very simple way, that simply works for me. So, I probably learned the way to do it using Gentoo, and nothing else. Recently I tried to build one of

[gentoo-user] Re: build programs in other distros

2017-07-28 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-07-28 18:07, Francisco Ares wrote: > Recently I tried to build one of my programs in an Ubuntu distro, and > it didn't build at all, messing library and include files names and > locations. > > How do real developers manage this? And why this difference happens, > in the first place?

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] build programs in other distros

2017-07-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/07/2017 23:07, Francisco Ares wrote: > Hi, All. > > I've used a few distros, but mostly for curiosity. Being a Gentoo user > for ... well, more than a decade, I'm used to build binaries in a very > simple way, that simply works for me. > > So, I probably learned the way to do it using

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 00:24:09 +0700, Ста Деюс wrote: > But something tells me the reason of absence of the installer are > much deeper. Yes, it is that no one has felt the need to devote the considerable amount of time needed to code and test an installer that takes into account the far wider

Re: [gentoo-user] BOINC on a hardened system?

2017-07-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 28 Jul 2017 15:23:05 Gregory Woodbury wrote: > By default, BOINC daemon is started by root and supposedly drops > permissions after a bit. However, the CERNVM VirtualBox application > cannot run as root, so they recommend running BOINC from a user > account that has virtualbox

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-28 Thread Arve Barsnes
On 28 July 2017 at 20:15, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > Gotta be honest here. I really don't think Gentoo is for you. > > If you don't understand why the exponential amount of work that it takes > to be able to support each additional choice that Gentoo does is hard to > codify

Re: [gentoo-user] BOINC on a hardened system?

2017-07-28 Thread Gregory Woodbury
By default, BOINC daemon is started by root and supposedly drops permissions after a bit. However, the CERNVM VirtualBox application cannot run as root, so they recommend running BOINC from a user account that has virtualbox permissions; VirtualBox, on the other hand, will not run as root for

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 00:57:41 +0700, Ста Деюс wrote: > > Can you attach to bash script you are running and the exact error > > messages? It is hard to say (at least for me) without seeing it; bash > > to bash portability issues are something I have never heard of. As a > > guess there are a

[gentoo-user] Re: Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-28 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-07-28 22:31, Ста Деюс wrote: > Why bash script (the install script), that works in "Debian", does not > work on "Gentoo" install CD, giving me syntax errors (basically related > to '(', ')' and ''')? There was a bug in historic versions of bash, where it got confused if the POSIX syntax

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-28 Thread Ста Деюс
>> Why bash script (the install script), that works in "Debian", does >> not >> work on "Gentoo" install CD, giving me syntax errors (basically >> related to '(', ')' and ''')? In the script is the interpreter line >> >> #!/bin/bash > You say that line appears in both scripts, but is it the

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-28 Thread Ста Деюс
> > and both systems contain bash, that interprets the script, why the > > difference on syntax? > > > > Can you attach to bash script you are running and the exact error > messages? It is hard to say (at least for me) without seeing it; bash > to bash portability issues are something I have

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-28 Thread Mick
On Saturday 29 Jul 2017 00:24:09 Ста Деюс wrote: > >> Why bash script (the install script), that works in "Debian", does > >> not > >> work on "Gentoo" install CD, giving me syntax errors (basically > >> related to '(', ')' and ''')? In the script is the interpreter line > >> > >> #!/bin/bash > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-28 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 1:24 AM, Ста Деюс wrote: > >> Why bash script (the install script), that works in "Debian", does > >> not > >> work on "Gentoo" install CD, giving me syntax errors (basically > >> related to '(', ')' and ''')? In the script is the interpreter

Re: [gentoo-user] BOINC on a hardened system?

2017-07-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 28 Jul 2017 09:38:58 Peter Humphrey wrote: > It looks as though it has to run as root, which doesn't bode well. I'll > experiment with running BOINC with the default ownerships, though. Well, what do you know? Reverting to the default root:boinc enables it to run. I can't use the

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-28 Thread R0b0t1
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 8:53 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:44 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: >> >> Not to get away from OP's question, but how good would the installer >> need to be before it held the interest of any developers that manage >> the

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

2017-07-28 Thread John Covici
On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 22:01:24 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:47 PM, John Covici wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:13:24 -0400, > > > > I wonder if its because I am still using rsync to sync the portage > > directory? There are no changelogs

[gentoo-user] Re: what about dracut and systemd?

2017-07-28 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-07-28 22:01, Rich Freeman wrote: > > I wonder if its because I am still using rsync to sync the portage > > directory? There are no changelogs anywhere! or nothing by that > > name. > Ah, looks like they were removed entirely from rsync. It was months > ago and I don't use rsync so I'd

[gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

2017-07-28 Thread John Covici
I have not done a world update in a few weeks and I like to check things out first before doing this. I am seeing that the latest update of dracut has the -systemd as a mandatory flag. So, since I have to use systemd, does this mean I can no longer use dracut -- I have found dracut very nice and

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

2017-07-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 8:52 PM, John Covici wrote: > I have not done a world update in a few weeks and I like to check > things out first before doing this. I am seeing that the latest > update of dracut has the -systemd as a mandatory flag. So, since I > have to use

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

2017-07-28 Thread John Covici
On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:00:50 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 8:52 PM, John Covici wrote: > > I have not done a world update in a few weeks and I like to check > > things out first before doing this. I am seeing that the latest > > update of dracut

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

2017-07-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:04 PM, John Covici wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:00:50 -0400, > Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 8:52 PM, John Covici wrote: >> > I have not done a world update in a few weeks and I like to check >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-28 Thread R0b0t1
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 8:10 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 00:24:09 +0700, Ста Деюс wrote: >> >>> But something tells me the reason of absence of the installer are >>> much deeper. >>

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

2017-07-28 Thread John Covici
On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:13:24 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:04 PM, John Covici wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:00:50 -0400, > > Rich Freeman wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 8:52 PM, John Covici wrote: > >> > I

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 00:24:09 +0700, Ста Деюс wrote: > >> But something tells me the reason of absence of the installer are >> much deeper. > > Yes, it is that no one has felt the need to devote the considerable > amount

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:44 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > > Not to get away from OP's question, but how good would the installer > need to be before it held the interest of any developers that manage > the website or handbook? > That is hard to say. I've been meaning to better

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

2017-07-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:47 PM, John Covici wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:13:24 -0400, > > I wonder if its because I am still using rsync to sync the portage > directory? There are no changelogs anywhere! or nothing by that name. > Ah, looks like they were removed