Re: [gentoo-user] Postgresql upgrade

On Sunday 30 Jul 2017 00:44:27 Peter Humphrey wrote: > They are trying though. Daniel Vratil wrote this on the KDE-PIM list > > yesterday: > > If you use KMail (or Kontact), please help us, the KDE PIM developers, to > > get a better picture of how you use it so that we know which parts of the

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 10:58 PM, John Covici wrote: > > Well, clone-depth = 0 gave me a syntax error Can you provide the entire contents of your repos.conf, and the error it gives you? I wouldn't use a manual checkout for /usr/portage. You can of course do a checkout

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 9:36 AM, John Covici wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 09:07:03 -0400, > Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 10:58 PM, John Covici wrote: >> > >> > Well, clone-depth = 0 gave me a syntax error >> >> Can you provide

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

Hi, Vadim. On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 19:13:17 +0700, among other, you wrote: > > > read 'Enter device (like /dev/sd(a1,b1,...): ' device > > AFAIK, this is not valid syntax for `read` in any shell (even on > Debian. I just checked) Now i see this too even on "Debian" and i can't explain that,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

Hi, Ian. On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 10:37:49 -0700, among other, you wrote: > > PROMPT='Enter device (like /dev/sd(a1,b1,...): ' > read -p $PROMPT device On "Debian" it does not work: Entera1 ./об: строка 6: read: «(like»: это недопустимый идентификатор > To the OP: How do you run the script? Are

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

Hi, Peter. On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 00:10:41 +0100, among other, you wrote: > > > read 'Enter device (like /dev/sd(a1,b1,...): ' device > > > > Until i remove the brackets, "Gentoo's" bash keeps error > > messaging. > > Which brackets? They aren't matched. I know, but i say what i see. Thank

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

Hi, Alexander. On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 15:08:37 +0300, among other, you wrote: > > Alright. Here is an example of the problematic line from the point > of view of "Gentoo's" bash: > > read 'Enter device (like /dev/sd(a1,b1,...): ' device > > Until i remove the brackets, "Gentoo's" bash keeps

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

Hi, Neil. On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 22:07:31 +0100, among other, you wrote: > > > Mathematics (mother of computers) answers: 1+1=2. -- Meaning: same > > script w/ the same bash gets same execution. > > Except it's not the same bash, you stated that they are different > versions. I do not suppose

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 09:07:03 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 10:58 PM, John Covici wrote: > > > > Well, clone-depth = 0 gave me a syntax error > > Can you provide the entire contents of your repos.conf, and the error > it gives you? > > I wouldn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with printer after system update

On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 13:36:55 -0300 Raphael MD wrote: > Hi! > > After a system update, my printer only print documents from internet like > sites. > When a send .pdf to print, cups return this error: No Pages Found. > > Did anyone see this error? Look into cups logs, you may increase log

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday 30 Jul 2017 11:02:41 Rich Freeman wrote: > >> The general sense is that Changelogs represent the old way of doing >> things. Most projects have gone away from having them, or they just >> auto-generate them

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

On Sunday 30 Jul 2017 17:38:21 Rich Freeman wrote: > The one thing I will say about git is that you'll never appreciate it > until you understand how it works. In many ways git is a data model > masquerading as a version control system. The data model is very > elegant, but also very different

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 22:03:45 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > [...] point releases tend to contain manly bug fixes > > That's all right then. As long as there aren't too many feminist ones... That's because the men, in particular the husbands, are the ones always getting it wrong, so they

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

On Sunday 30 Jul 2017 23:19:11 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 22:03:45 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > [...] point releases tend to contain manly bug fixes > > > > That's all right then. As long as there aren't too many feminist ones... > > That's because the men, in particular

Re: [gentoo-user] Necessity of installer and complete documentation.

On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 15:54:58 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > If you want to install the same group of packages on multiple > > machines, create a set and copy it to /etc/portage/sets. I have a > > base set that I install on everything, containing all the things I > > always fond useful, and a

Re: [gentoo-user] Necessity of installer and complete documentation.

On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 17:40:19 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> Just be careful about uninstalling sets. For whatever reason portage > >> doesn't manage dependencies when you do this. > > > > Do you mean that depclean doesn't remove them? > > > > The opposite. If you uninstall a set, portage

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

On Sunday 30 Jul 2017 23:19:11 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 22:03:45 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > [...] point releases tend to contain manly bug fixes > > > > That's all right then. As long as there aren't too many feminist ones... > > That's because the men, in particular

[gentoo-user] Re: Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

On 2017-07-30, Rich Freeman wrote: > In my experience the people who are most likely to give you the most > helpful replies tend to also be the first people to hit mute on a > thread when the person asking for help seems determined to make this > as painful as possible.

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

On Sunday 30 Jul 2017 11:02:41 Rich Freeman wrote: > The general sense is that Changelogs represent the old way of doing > things. Most projects have gone away from having them, or they just > auto-generate them from git. I don't think most projects routinely > distribute them either - they

Re: [gentoo-user] Necessity of installer and complete documentation.

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 15:54:58 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> > If you want to install the same group of packages on multiple >> > machines, create a set and copy it to /etc/portage/sets. I have a >> > base set that I

Re: [gentoo-user] Necessity of installer and complete documentation.

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 17:40:19 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> >> Another option to consider is creating your own overlay with some >> meta-packages in it. Then when you do a new install the first thing >> you do is pull

[gentoo-user] Re: Necessity of installer and complete documentation.

On 2017-07-30 17:40, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> Just be careful about uninstalling sets. For whatever reason portage > >> doesn't manage dependencies when you do this. > > > > Do you mean that depclean doesn't remove them? > > The opposite. If you uninstall a set, portage will remove everything

[gentoo-user] Re: maim screenshooting

On 2017-07-30 20:04, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > $ maim -i $(xdotool getactivewindow) ~/mypicture.jpg [...] > Giving this via commandline it always shoots the terminal window (I > see no way to edit a commandline without activateing the terminal > window). Clearly the -i parameter is for the

Re: [gentoo-user] Necessity of installer and complete documentation.

On Mon, 31 Jul 2017 00:35:02 +0700, Ста Деюс wrote: > But i still do not understand why there is no choice of the desired > packages but profiles only. A profile is only a starting point, a default set of packages and USE flags for common scenarios. It is up to the user/admin to decide which

[gentoo-user] Re: Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

On 2017-07-30 16:03, Rich Freeman wrote: > In my experience the people who are most likely to give you the most > helpful replies tend to also be the first people to hit mute on a > thread when the person asking for help seems determined to make this > as painful as possible. This :-) --

[gentoo-user] Re: maim screenshooting

On 30/07/17 21:04, tu...@posteo.de wrote: Hi, I am shootin around the screen...experimenting... From here: https://github.com/naelstrof/maim I found this: "This is a basic, but useful command that simply screenshots the current active window. $ maim -i $(xdotool getactivewindow)

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

On Sunday 30 Jul 2017 20:50:58 Neil Bothwick wrote: > [...] point releases tend to contain manly bug fixes That's all right then. As long as there aren't too many feminist ones... -- Regards Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 16:03:06 +0700, Ста Деюс wrote: > > Except it's not the same bash, you stated that they are different > > versions. > > I do not suppose that versions, that differ just in .1 are too great > for syntax. I may err, and may get into 0.1 % of probability that > it is the

Re: [gentoo-user] Necessity of installer and complete documentation.

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jul 2017 00:35:02 +0700, Ста Деюс wrote: > > If you want to install the same group of packages on multiple machines, > create a set and copy it to /etc/portage/sets. I have a base set that I > install on

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Ста Деюс wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 22:07:31 +0100, among other, you wrote: > >> >> This is what was asked for from the start, and as soon as you provided >> it, several people identified a potential problem. It's no use saying >>

[gentoo-user] Re: what about dracut and systemd?

On 2017-07-29 06:25, Rich Freeman wrote: > IMO unless you really need to read them offline it is probably just as > easy to just browse the git repository. I find github provides the > nicest viewer But which one? There is gentoo/gentoo _and_ gentoo-mirror/gentoo. TBH the existence of both

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: what about dracut and systemd?

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-07-29 06:25, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> IMO unless you really need to read them offline it is probably just as >> easy to just browse the git repository. I find github provides the >> nicest viewer > > But

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 09:53:18 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 9:36 AM, John Covici wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 09:07:03 -0400, > > Rich Freeman wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 10:58 PM, John Covici > >> wrote: > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 10:53 AM, John Covici wrote: > > Thanks. clone-depth seems not to be available, so I amnot sure whats > best here. I thinkI like the history, so I will see how to do a git > clone. I do havethe type as git in the gentoo.conf, but I don't know >

[gentoo-user] maim screenshooting

Hi, I am shootin around the screen...experimenting... >From here: https://github.com/naelstrof/maim I found this: "This is a basic, but useful command that simply screenshots the current active window. $ maim -i $(xdotool getactivewindow) ~/mypicture.jpg " Giving this via

Re: [gentoo-user] Necessity of installer and complete documentation.

Hi, R0b0t1. On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 20:44:10 -0500, among other, you wrote: > > Not to get away from OP's question, but how good would the installer > need to be before it held the interest of any developers that manage > the website or handbook? > > I ask because the much simpler thing I