Re: [gentoo-user] PPC64

2016-10-13 Thread thegeezer 

On 2016-10-13 11:03, thegee...@thegeezer.net wrote:

On 2016-10-13 10:46, Alarig Le Lay wrote:

On Thu Oct 13 10:26:48 2016, thegee...@thegeezer.net wrote:

can anyone point me in the direction of an
"install-ppc64-minimal-20141204.iso" or hopefully something newer?
my google-fu is letting me down!

thanks in advance!


Hi,

You have install-powerpc-minimal-20140713.iso and the associated 
stage3 on

ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.gentoo.org/releases/ppc/autobuilds/current-install-powerpc-minimal/

Perhaps you can use a stage3 from 2014 and then upgrade it after the
installation?


Unfortunately I can't get the minimal iso to boot :(  I'm guessing
there is something different between ppc64 and ppc32 that is
preventing yaboot

Also not sure how nicely a 32bit kernel will work with the 64bit
stage3 -- now that's not a deal breaker i can live in a 32bit world if
needed, it's the lack of booting that i have a problem with


just a little update --  I have the PPC64 universal iso from 2008, and 
had to use a 2008 stage3
i could then emerge-webrsync and this has allowed me to update portage 
and world.

fingers crossed for the kernel and toys :)

Re: [gentoo-user] PPC64

2016-10-13 Thread thegeezer 

On 2016-10-13 10:46, Alarig Le Lay wrote:

On Thu Oct 13 10:26:48 2016, thegee...@thegeezer.net wrote:

can anyone point me in the direction of an
"install-ppc64-minimal-20141204.iso" or hopefully something newer?
my google-fu is letting me down!

thanks in advance!


Hi,

You have install-powerpc-minimal-20140713.iso and the associated stage3 
on

ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.gentoo.org/releases/ppc/autobuilds/current-install-powerpc-minimal/

Perhaps you can use a stage3 from 2014 and then upgrade it after the
installation?


Unfortunately I can't get the minimal iso to boot :(  I'm guessing there 
is something different between ppc64 and ppc32 that is preventing yaboot


Also not sure how nicely a 32bit kernel will work with the 64bit stage3 
-- now that's not a deal breaker i can live in a 32bit world if needed, 
it's the lack of booting that i have a problem with

Re: [gentoo-user] PPC64

2016-10-13 Thread Alarig Le Lay 
On Thu Oct 13 10:26:48 2016, thegee...@thegeezer.net wrote:
> can anyone point me in the direction of an 
> "install-ppc64-minimal-20141204.iso" or hopefully something newer?
> my google-fu is letting me down!
> 
> thanks in advance!

Hi,

You have install-powerpc-minimal-20140713.iso and the associated stage3 on
ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.gentoo.org/releases/ppc/autobuilds/current-install-powerpc-minimal/

Perhaps you can use a stage3 from 2014 and then upgrade it after the
installation?

-- 
alarig


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[gentoo-user] PPC64

2016-10-13 Thread thegeezer 

Howdy folks,
I find myself in a position where I have some IBM pseries servers at 
hand, and of course my first instinct is to install Gentoo :)


I've tried following the handbook[1] but I fail at the media step, as 
there is no ppc64 download, just /mirror/gentoo/releases/ppc
inside there in 2007 and 2008 I can find "universal" iso and they do 
work but these are too old to install from (EAPI blockers / kernel too 
old for chroot with newer stage3 etc etc)


in /mirror/gentoo/releases/ppc/autobuilds/current-iso   there is a 
minimal iso which has no ppc64 and i can't get yaboot to boot.
i've used the 2007 and 2008 ppc64 and they seem to boot fine, just a bit 
old is all.


can anyone point me in the direction of an 
"install-ppc64-minimal-20141204.iso" or hopefully something newer?

my google-fu is letting me down!

thanks in advance!

[1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:PPC64/Installation/Media

Re: [gentoo-user] PPC64 on IBM Power8

2015-11-24 Thread Walter Dnes 
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 04:31:33PM +0100, luciano mannucci wrote
> On 2015-11-24 00:15, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 16:41:00 +0100, luciano mannucci wrote:
> >> Ok, I'll fight with the low intensity virtual video and I hope I'll be
> >> back with a success story soon... :-)
> > 
> > Start the SSH server in the live install environment, then you can SSH 
> > in
> > from a system with a decent display. I almost always install Gentoo 
> > using
> > SSH and screen.
> 
> Indeed, I agree, ssh is probably The solution.
> 
> Tough I have to configure the ethernet interface first, and add at least
> one user (or edit the sshd configuration file :)... I don't like the 
> idea
> of doing that blindly... :)

  No need for an extra user that early in the install.  You can login as
root.  You have to be root to do the setup stuff anyways.  If you really
want a "predictable interface name", remember to type...

gentoo net.ifnames=0

...immediately when the Gentoo CD or USB key boots up.  I predict that
it'll come up as eth0 if you do that. 

-- 
Walter Dnes 
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

Re: [gentoo-user] PPC64 on IBM Power8

2015-11-24 Thread luciano mannucci 

On 2015-11-24 00:15, Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 16:41:00 +0100, luciano mannucci wrote:

Ok, I'll fight with the low intensity virtual video and I hope I'll be
back with a success story soon... :-)


Start the SSH server in the live install environment, then you can SSH 
in
from a system with a decent display. I almost always install Gentoo 
using

SSH and screen.


Indeed, I agree, ssh is probably The solution.

Tough I have to configure the ethernet interface first, and add at least
one user (or edit the sshd configuration file :)... I don't like the 
idea

of doing that blindly... :)

Cheers,

Luciano.
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Re: [gentoo-user] PPC64 on IBM Power8

2015-11-24 Thread luciano mannucci 

On 2015-11-24 04:14, Zhu Sha Zang wrote:

Hey dude, what you'll gonna do with this machine. Just curiosity.

Well, I'm a service provider, I need a good OS for infrastructure
virtual machines, I think gentoo is not necessarily a bad choice... ;-)

Cheers,

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[gentoo-user] PPC64 on IBM Power8

2015-11-23 Thread luciano mannucci 


Hello,

I'm trying to install the last Gentoo on a virtual machine on an IBM
Power8. It refuses to boot the minimal CD saying that it is not 
bootable.


The IBM literature says that Power8 will never boot a 32 bit system, so
I tryed the last ppc64 mini install for ppc64 that I found googling
around, which is a 2007.0-r1 and this one boots (putting the video in
low intensity, which is a nuisance I can cope with).
Now I'm wondering: should I try to build everithing from there, or is
it possible to get a more recent install version for the ppc64
architecture?

Thanks in advance for any advice,

Luciano.
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Re: [gentoo-user] PPC64 on IBM Power8

2015-11-23 Thread Neil Bothwick 
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 16:41:00 +0100, luciano mannucci wrote:

> > As long as your install cd/dvd supports the
> > filesystems you want to use, you'll be fine using it. Just get the 
> > newest
> > stage3 and you will start with the most recent gentoo has to offer.  
> Ok, I'll fight with the low intensity virtual video and I hope I'll be
> back with a success story soon... :-)

Start the SSH server in the live install environment, then you can SSH in
from a system with a decent display. I almost always install Gentoo using
SSH and screen.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody
appreciates how difficult it was.


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Re: [gentoo-user] PPC64 on IBM Power8

2015-11-23 Thread Zhu Sha Zang 
Hey dude, what you'll gonna do with this machine. Just curiosity.

Regards

On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 15:08:26 +0100
luciano mannucci  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm trying to install the last Gentoo on a virtual machine on an IBM
> Power8. It refuses to boot the minimal CD saying that it is not 
> bootable.
> 
> The IBM literature says that Power8 will never boot a 32 bit system, so
> I tryed the last ppc64 mini install for ppc64 that I found googling
> around, which is a 2007.0-r1 and this one boots (putting the video in
> low intensity, which is a nuisance I can cope with).
> Now I'm wondering: should I try to build everithing from there, or is
> it possible to get a more recent install version for the ppc64
> architecture?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any advice,
> 
> Luciano.
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Re: [gentoo-user] PPC64 on IBM Power8

2015-11-23 Thread luciano mannucci 

On 2015-11-23 15:51, Jeremi Piotrowski wrote:
The install medium has almost zero effect on what ends up in the 
installed
system. The only purpose it serves is to partition and format your 
block

devices - after that you chroot into the stage3 which will become your
install environment.

Good! That's what I expected... :-)


As long as your install cd/dvd supports the
filesystems you want to use, you'll be fine using it. Just get the 
newest

stage3 and you will start with the most recent gentoo has to offer.

Ok, I'll fight with the low intensity virtual video and I hope I'll be
back with a success story soon... :-)

Thanks,

Luciano.
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Re: [gentoo-user] PPC64 on IBM Power8

2015-11-23 Thread Jeremi Piotrowski 
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 03:08:26PM +0100, luciano mannucci wrote:
> Now I'm wondering: should I try to build everithing from there, or is
> it possible to get a more recent install version for the ppc64
> architecture?

The install medium has almost zero effect on what ends up in the installed
system. The only purpose it serves is to partition and format your block
devices - after that you chroot into the stage3 which will become your
install environment. As long as your install cd/dvd supports the
filesystems you want to use, you'll be fine using it. Just get the newest
stage3 and you will start with the most recent gentoo has to offer.