Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On 20/12/17 02:12, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 01:09:30 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 00:33:08 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: It's not about political correctness but perspective. The good guys intervene, the baddies interfere. It's like the

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 7:31 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 17:00:33 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > * [OT]What's the difference between intervention and > > interference? None that I can see. One is just more Politically Crass - > > oops! Correct -

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Monday, 18 December 2017 10:57:31 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 10:45:30 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > Coincidentally, I'd recently also ended my subscription to the magazine. > > > :-( Well, after many years of devoted service, they seem to have lost their way.

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 01:09:30 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 00:33:08 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > It's not about political correctness but perspective. The good guys > > > intervene, the baddies interfere. It's like the difference between a > > > terrorist and a

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 00:33:08 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > It's not about political correctness but perspective. The good guys > > intervene, the baddies interfere. It's like the difference between a > > terrorist and a freedom fighter. > > We could mince words all day. No we couldn't,

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Tuesday, 19 December 2017 20:31:42 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 17:00:33 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > * [OT] What's the difference between intervention and > > interference? None that I can see. One is just more Politically Crass - > > oops! Correct - than the other.

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 17:00:33 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > * [OT]What's the difference between intervention and > interference? None that I can see. One is just more Politically Crass - > oops! Correct - than the other. It's not about political correctness but perspective. The good guys

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/19/2017 12:22 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: >> >> There are; .local and .localhost are reserved TLDs. > > > .local is reserved for Apple's multicast DNS stuff, which requires names > to be resolved via a nonstandard method: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On 12/19/2017 12:22 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > > There are; .local and .localhost are reserved TLDs. .local is reserved for Apple's multicast DNS stuff, which requires names to be resolved via a nonstandard method: Any DNS query for a name ending with ".local." MUST be sent to the mDNS IPv4

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/18/2017 03:25 PM, David Haller wrote: >> >> ISTR, .localdomain is the new .local... >> >> BTW: I hate it how .local got ursurped by zeroconf/mDNS. >> > > You were never allowed to use .local in the first place =P >

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Tuesday, 19 December 2017 16:39:50 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > On 19/12/17 13:57, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > There are no safe, free names to use for an internal network. On the one > > hand, RFC 8244 makes a decent argument that this is a good thing, > > because it guarantees that every hostname

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On 19/12/17 13:57, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > There are no safe, free names to use for an internal network. On the one > hand, RFC 8244 makes a decent argument that this is a good thing, > because it guarantees that every hostname is globally unique (so if I > copy/paste a URL to you, it goes the

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 08:59:10 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > I have used .localdomain for years without issue. VLANS > > (wifi.localdomain, lan.localdomain etc.) are great if you have the > > hardware to do it. > > > > Using non-official TLD internally shouldn't cause any problems (unless >

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On 12/18/2017 04:58 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > I have used .localdomain for years without issue. VLANS > (wifi.localdomain, lan.localdomain etc.) are great if you have the > hardware to do it. > > Using non-official TLD internally shouldn't cause any problems (unless > someone is "stupid").

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On 12/18/2017 03:25 PM, David Haller wrote: > > ISTR, .localdomain is the new .local... > > BTW: I hate it how .local got ursurped by zeroconf/mDNS. > You were never allowed to use .local in the first place =P I learned some interesting things from RFC 8244, the first being that they have an

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 18 December 2017 09:49:41 GMT Adam Carter wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Peter Humphrey > > wrote: > > > I've been running Linux systems since 1994, calling my private

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Monday, 18 December 2017 09:49:41 GMT Adam Carter wrote: > On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Peter Humphrey > wrote: > > I've been running Linux systems since 1994, calling my private LAN mynet > > (bowdlerised). Now I come to install neth server on one machine, it > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On 19/12/17 04:25, David Haller wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon, 18 Dec 2017, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> On 12/18/2017 02:55 PM, Wol's lists wrote: >>> My router defaults, iirc, to .local. And I thought .home also did the >>> same sort of thing. >> >> Both are reserved: the ".home" TLD is reserved

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

Hello, On Mon, 18 Dec 2017, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >On 12/18/2017 02:55 PM, Wol's lists wrote: >> My router defaults, iirc, to .local. And I thought .home also did the >> same sort of thing. > >Both are reserved: the ".home" TLD is reserved for the Home Networking >Control Protocol in the RFC

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On 12/18/2017 02:55 PM, Wol's lists wrote: > > My router defaults, iirc, to .local. And I thought .home also did the > same sort of thing. Both are reserved: the ".home" TLD is reserved for the Home Networking Control Protocol in the RFC 7788 that you cited, and ".local" is reserved for some

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On 18/12/17 13:56, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 12/17/2017 09:05 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, I've been running Linux systems since 1994, calling my private LAN mynet (bowdlerised). Now I come to install neth server on one machine, it insists that I tell it a domain name with at least

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

Hello, On Mon, 18 Dec 2017, Peter Humphrey wrote: >Come to think of it, I have a .me.uk domain registered. I wonder if I can >use that... Of course you can. Just add a third/fourth level subdomain and put your stuff under this. E.g. I have a domain example.de registered to me, resolving

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 4:45 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 18 December 2017 09:49:41 GMT Adam Carter wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Peter Humphrey >> >> wrote: >> > Hello list, >> > >> > I've been running Linux systems since

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On 12/18/2017 09:31 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> >> You should probably buy a TLD. It's stupid, but there are no reserved >> top-level domain names for internal use. > > What, for $185,000 plus quarterly fees[1]? No thanks. > > --->8 > I meant "buy a domain" there =) If somebody were to shell

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Monday, 18 December 2017 13:56:52 GMT Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/17/2017 09:05 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > I've been running Linux systems since 1994, calling my private LAN mynet > > (bowdlerised). Now I come to install neth server on one machine, it > > insists

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On 12/17/2017 09:05 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > I've been running Linux systems since 1994, calling my private LAN mynet > (bowdlerised). Now I come to install neth server on one machine, it insists > that I tell it a domain name with at least two dots in it. But I don't have >

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 10:45:30 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I'd been encouraged to try Neth by a score of 9/10 in a certain > magazine known to one of our contributors here. I reviewed it for one of those magazines a couple of years ago in a 5 way round up where it narrowly beat ClearOS for top

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Monday, 18 December 2017 09:49:41 GMT Adam Carter wrote: > On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Peter Humphrey > > wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > I've been running Linux systems since 1994, calling my private LAN mynet > > (bowdlerised). Now I come to install neth server

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > I've been running Linux systems since 1994, calling my private LAN mynet > (bowdlerised). Now I come to install neth server on one machine, it insists > that I tell it a domain name with at least two

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 8:05 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > I've been running Linux systems since 1994, calling my private LAN mynet > (bowdlerised). Now I come to install neth server on one machine, it insists > that I tell it a domain name with at least two