Re: [geo] Fw: Scientists should communicate: the methane time bomb

2011-04-14 Thread Andrew Lockley
A very informative comparison, thanks. The two main issues with bright water are the strong localized impacts on marine micro environment / food chain and also the simple problem that it may just not work! Assessing the former cannot be properly achieved until the latter is established, as the

Re: [geo] Re: calling all CDRers

2011-04-14 Thread rongretlarson
Albert: 1. Thanks for this information on Bayer. Googling I found a bit more at http://www.chemicals-technology.com/projects/bayer-co2-plastics/ which hints that the catalyst somehow involves zinc. 2. As described, I would put this in the carbon neutral, not CDR category. Of course if the

[geo] Re: [biochar-policy] China and carbon sequestration - new policy

2011-04-14 Thread John Nissen
Hi Ron, I want to pick up on the importance of China - but first an apology for not replying to your message sooner. I tend to alternate, week by week, between focussing on the principal types of geoengineering: SRM and CDR (solar radiation management and carbon dioxide removal) to rescue

RE: [geo] Fw: Scientists should communicate: the methane time bomb

2011-04-14 Thread Veli Albert Kallio
The methane time bomb should be quantifiable as follows: When there were large scale destabilisation of depressurised and then sunlight and heat-exposed sea beds most of the 22,000 methane clathrate craters were formed onto the Russian coastal seas as methane ice took the impact from sun and

[geo] Global CCS Institute report on bio energy with CCS (BECCS)

2011-04-14 Thread Oliver Morton
overview page http://www.globalccsinstitute.com/resources/publications/global-status-beccs-projects-2010 full report http://www.globalccsinstitute.com/sites/default/files/GCCSI_Biorecro_Global_Status_of_BECCS_110302_report.pdf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [geo] Re: calling all CDRers

2011-04-14 Thread Oliver Morton
From Green Futures magazine, this week, by Alan Knight, who is the director of the Earth Challenge http://www.forumforthefuture.org/greenfutures/articles/Virgin_25million_fix With 2,600 submissions, why is no one top dog? * Question: how can $25 million be too much money and also not enough at

Re: [geo] Meeting: CDR through storage in soils

2011-04-14 Thread Ron Larson
Oliver and list This below sounds to me like a meeting to further investigate topics like permaculture and composting. These are carbon negative, but measured in decades, not centuries and millennia. There is little impact on energy supply and not likely to involve REDD+. Nevertheless,

Re: [geo] Re: paper on altitude dependence of climate forcing and response from black carbon aerosols

2011-04-14 Thread Mike MacCracken
One of the potential dissertation topics suggested to me in late 1965 or early 1966 by Dr. Edward Teller, who had been a leader in forming the Department of Applied Science of the University of California Davis where I was a graduate student, was to explore the potential for dispersing Los Angeles

Re: [geo] Fw: Scientists should communicate: the methane time bomb

2011-04-14 Thread rongretlarson
List (and Andrew and other ccs) In response to Andrew's comment (repeated in full below), Russell this AM sent me the following (in full) with (my presumption) an intent to forward to the list . The ' optical density' to which Andrew Locksley's response refers, ( the term is scarcely

Re: [geo] Re: paper on altitude dependence of climate forcing and response from black carbon aerosols

2011-04-14 Thread Hawkins, Dave
Fascinating, Mike. Do you recall whether the advocates for these approaches in the late 50s rationalized them as needed because of a view that society would never pursue serious mitigation? David From: Mike MacCracken [mailto:mmacc...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 01:00 PM To:

RE: [geo] Re: calling all CDRers

2011-04-14 Thread Rau, Greg
Thanks, Oliver. Very disappointing. Of course there are no commercially viable ways to consume 1GT of air CO2/yr, but let's at least find out what technologies come closest, give them some award for their efforts, and spur the RD community to evaluate and innovate further. If the goal is to

RE: [geo] Re: paper on altitude dependence of climate forcing and response from black carbon aerosols

2011-04-14 Thread Hawkins, Dave
Thanks Ken The tart conclusion is amusing: Conclusion Unfortunately, most proponents of schemes to abate the smog by meteorological modification consider that they have done their share in coming forward with the general ideas, and that it becomes the duty of the county Air Pollution

Re: [geo] Re: calling all CDRers

2011-04-14 Thread rongretlarson
Oliver - Again - thanks for an interesting and helpful lead on Forum for the Future. I hope you will keep supplying such l.eads. 1. What you have given below gets more interesting for CDR fans when you read the appreciably longer story at the address you have given below: [