Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 5:50 PM, RS wrote: > My initial reaction was that it was too early to worry about this. When we > had problems with Segment not found errors in HLS, that was at a holiday > time and many programmes were corrected within a week of broadcast. >

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

Hi CJB, > is the overly-LOUD dramatic music. This is so loud that the narrator > cannot be heard The production companies paid by the BBC put `plinkity-plink' music over all the speech audio, not just narration, and not just to add drama. It seems to be for no good reason; similar to a

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On 08/04/18 17:22, Alan Milewczyk wrote: Interestingly enough there's a posting today on the support forum which wonders whether hlshd is being phased out as the "BBC isn't making programs available in hlshd (720p 25fps), only dvfhd and hvfhd (720p 50fps) for HD. The list includes:

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 4:39 PM, CJB wrote: > Not sure about loudness of narrators, what I find extremely irritating > - to the point of switching to another channel - is the overly-LOUD > dramatic music. This is so loud that the narrator cannot be heard, and > I then have

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

In article <7495777d-626b-394b-be2d-5f2ca5f14...@tqvideo.co.uk>, Tony Quinn wrote: > Read this, and see what I mean > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/25/the_future_of_moving_images_the_eyes_have_it/ Thanks for the reference. FWIW I've started downloading a series

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

Not sure about loudness of narrators, what I find extremely irritating - to the point of switching to another channel - is the overly-LOUD dramatic music. This is so loud that the narrator cannot be heard, and I then have to switch to using subtitles. And even Attenborough's narration is not

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

Hi Tony, > Read this, and see what I mean > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/25/the_future_of_moving_images_the_eyes_have_it/ Thanks, interesting, though I didn't grasp it all on first reading. Don't suppose you know of a good article explaining why the narrator in BBC programmes is

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

Sorry, should've been the PCC (Press Complaints Commission)! On 10/04/2018 00:15, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: In fact, they're probably even less reliable than the Daily Fail  - at least the latter are occasionally brought to book by the IPCC, whereas blugger-land (deliberate mistype) has no

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

Please see below ... On 09/04/2018 21:13, Tony Quinn wrote: On 09/04/2018 20:37, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: > > I will, but 'The Register' has sometimes proved to be a very unreliable source of scientific information, so I wouldn't expect it necessarily to be a good source of technical

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

I have read it, and it does discuss the issue I raised. 50p is not necessarily 50p when your display has finish motion interpolating it (or not as the case may be). Just because people don't come away from an article agreeing with you completely does not mean they did not read and understand

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On 09/04/2018 21:37, Owen Smith wrote: Before you get all fussy about 50i, 50p or 25p you need to look at what your display is doing to that. Most people are viewing on LCDs these days, and these have a "sample and hold" nature of their own and run at a particular frame rate. So you may find

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

Before you get all fussy about 50i, 50p or 25p you need to look at what your display is doing to that. Most people are viewing on LCDs these days, and these have a "sample and hold" nature of their own and run at a particular frame rate. So you may find everything is being re-sampled to 30p or

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On 09/04/2018 20:37, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: > > I will, but 'The Register' has sometimes proved to be a very unreliable source of scientific information, so I wouldn't expect it necessarily to be a good source of technical information either. > What that actually means is that if it

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

Please see below ... On 09/04/2018 19:22, Tony Quinn wrote: Not "MIGHT be so" . ***IS*** so - having spent 35 years as an engineer in broadcast TV (some of it at the BBC) , I've heard too many bloody amateurs dismiss the physics/maths with phrases like "might be so, but..."

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On 09/04/2018 19:00, Steve Dodd wrote: On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 6:34 PM, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: Yes, I can see that that might be so, but I don't think it alters the thrust of my argument, does it? Wouldn't 1080p25 still be better to watch than 720p50?

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On 09/04/2018 18:34, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: Please see below ... On 09/04/2018 16:54, Tony Quinn wrote: On 09/04/2018 16:23, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: Can't see the logic, if there is any?!  Surely, for the same disk space and bandwidth, the customer viewer would get a better

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 6:34 PM, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: > Yes, I can see that that might be so, but I don't think it alters the thrust > of my argument, does it? Wouldn't 1080p25 still be better to watch than > 720p50? Brains are weird things, could easily

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

Please see below ... On 09/04/2018 16:54, Tony Quinn wrote: On 09/04/2018 16:23, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: Can't see the logic, if there is any?!  Surely, for the same disk space and bandwidth, the customer viewer would get a better download from 1440 25fps rather than 720 50fps? It

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On 09/04/2018 16:23, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: Please see below ... On 08/04/2018 17:22, Alan Milewczyk wrote: Interestingly enough there's a posting today on the support forum which wonders whether hlshd is being phased out as the "BBC isn't making programs available in hlshd (720p

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

Please see below ... On 08/04/2018 17:22, Alan Milewczyk wrote: Interestingly enough there's a posting today on the support forum which wonders whether hlshd is being phased out as the "BBC isn't making programs available in hlshd (720p 25fps), only dvfhd and hvfhd (720p 50fps) for HD. The

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On 08/04/2018 10:36, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: Please see below ... On 06/04/2018 16:21, Alan Milewczyk wrote: On 06/04/2018 13:37, David Cantrell wrote: On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 01:45:50PM +0100, Alan Milewczyk wrote: Notwithstanding this, Charles was making the point that, from time to

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

Please see below ... On 06/04/2018 16:21, Alan Milewczyk wrote: On 06/04/2018 13:37, David Cantrell wrote: On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 01:45:50PM +0100, Alan Milewczyk wrote: Notwithstanding this, Charles was making the point that, from time to time, in a series we might have some programmes at

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On 06/04/2018 16:07, David Cantrell wrote: Broadcast rights and online rights are not the same thing. Absolutely. I suspect this is the reason why so much material on Channel 4's excellent "All4.com" under the "Walter Presents" tag is only available online, rather than being broadcast on

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On 06/04/2018 13:37, David Cantrell wrote: On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 01:45:50PM +0100, Alan Milewczyk wrote: Notwithstanding this, Charles was making the point that, from time to time, in a series we might have some programmes at one mode and others at another mode. Some consistency across a

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 03:01:11PM +0100, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: > For many things, that would be true, but for the sort of big Hollywood > films that I mentioned, I doubt if there can be any doubt who the > current rights holders are. Apart from anything else, the original > rights

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

Some good points, please see below ... On 06/04/2018 13:27, David Cantrell wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 11:58:44PM +0100, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: And that's not to mention the absurdity of not being allowed to download a 40-50 year old B version of 'Pride & Prejudice', or the 50 year

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On 06/04/18 13:27, David Cantrell wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 11:58:44PM +0100, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: And that's not to mention the absurdity of not being allowed to download a 40-50 year old B version of 'Pride & Prejudice', or the 50 year old 'Funny Girl' & 43 year old 'Funny

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 01:45:50PM +0100, Alan Milewczyk wrote: > Notwithstanding this, Charles was making the point that, from time to > time, in a series we might have some programmes at one mode and others > at another mode. Some consistency across a series should not be too much > to ask

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 11:58:44PM +0100, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: > And that's not to mention the absurdity of not being allowed to download > a 40-50 year old B version of 'Pride & Prejudice', or the 50 year old > 'Funny Girl' & 43 year old 'Funny Lady',  because of rights issues  -  >

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On 05/04/2018 10:41, RS wrote: On 04/04/18 23:58, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: I do wish the BBC would get their act together, this is by no means the first time that this sort of thing has happened  - others include: > ... The BBC's policy is set out in

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On 05/04/2018 10:41, RS wrote: The BBC's policy is set out in http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2015-07-the-development-of-new-video-factory-profiles-for-bbc-iplayer (an article I have linked to before). I'd forgotten about this document! Thanks for reminding us. HLShd does not appear in the

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On 04/04/18 23:58, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: Please see below ... On 04/04/2018 22:16, Alan Milewczyk wrote: On 04/04/2018 22:03, I wrote: It looks as though the best 25fps resolution you can get is hvfxsd, 960x540.  It is quite common for older programmes only to be available in HVF

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

Please see below ... On 04/04/2018 22:16, Alan Milewczyk wrote: On 04/04/2018 22:03, RS wrote: On 04/04/18 19:27, Alan Milewczyk wrote: On 04/04/2018 16:12, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: Hi, Was able to download the previous day's Episode 1 as hafhd, but seemingly can only download Episode

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On 04/04/2018 22:03, RS wrote: On 04/04/18 19:27, Alan Milewczyk wrote: On 04/04/2018 16:12, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: Hi, Was able to download the previous day's Episode 1 as hafhd, but seemingly can only download Episode 2 as hvfhd at twice the disk space.  Has anyone else been able

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On 04/04/18 19:27, Alan Milewczyk wrote: On 04/04/2018 16:12, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: Hi, Was able to download the previous day's Episode 1 as hafhd, but seemingly can only download Episode 2 as hvfhd at twice the disk space.  Has anyone else been able to download Ep 2 as hafhd or

Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906

On 04/04/2018 16:12, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: Hi, Was able to download the previous day's Episode 1 as hafhd, but seemingly can only download Episode 2 as hvfhd at twice the disk space.  Has anyone else been able to download Ep 2 as hafhd or hlshd? Afraid not.  I tried to download