Re: Where is the GGI project heading?

2000-08-30 Thread Andreas Beck
I need to talk to Marcus about that, to recheck, that there isn't much that really needs to be fixed. No! You and Marcus _NEVER_ will find _every_ bug! We never claimed that. However we both know probably best where some conceptual problem lie deep within the code, especially in very

Re: Where is the GGI project heading?

2000-08-30 Thread Stefan Seefeld
Andreas Beck wrote: We have CVS and daily snapshots. Everyone can review the code. This is not about me and Marcus doing some kind of conspiracy. It's just that we had some issues that need sorting out on our schedule in the past. But o.k. - as you want to know it, I'll tell you about

Newbe Questions about XGGI

2000-08-30 Thread Peter Schrammel
Hi, I tried to get XGGI and KGI to work but failed, so here are my questions: 1. I'm running fb (at least I can use fbset and set the different modes on my screen) on a matrox card (MGA G200 AGP). 2. when I try to run XGG with something like: XGGI -bpp 32 -targets fbdev:/dev/fb0; It runs but I

Re: Where is the GGI project heading?

2000-08-30 Thread Stefan Seefeld
Steve Cheng wrote: Unless someone wants to take this task, I'll experiment. Admittedly, I am more interested in XML, DocBook and all the other buzzword W3C standards than graphics, so I think this is an area I could contribute to. I want to implement a filter that converts plain text to

Re: libggi showoff (was: irc meetings)

2000-08-30 Thread ctest
While i'm on a rant, if you want to impress individuals, create a GGI demo that users can see, that shows off GGI's capabilities. in fact, a excelent move would be to copule with some game developer (worldforge might be a good one), and help maintain the client. (of course makeing it

Re: Newbe Questions about XGGI

2000-08-30 Thread Andreas Beck
1. I'm running fb (at least I can use fbset and set the different modes on my screen) on a matrox card (MGA G200 AGP). 2. when I try to run XGG with something like: XGGI -bpp 32 -targets fbdev:/dev/fb0; It runs but I only get 640x400 and can't move the cursor with my ps/2 mouse. O.K. -

Re: Where is the GGI project heading?

2000-08-30 Thread Rodolphe Ortalo
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Andreas Beck wrote: Security. LibGGI is - due to its dynamic loading mechanism and its external configurabilty via the environment - very unsuitable to be run suid. While most people here will agree, that there isn't much use in making LibGGI progs suid, SVGAlib

Documentation [Was: Where is the GGI project heading?]

2000-08-30 Thread Peter Schrammel
Steve Cheng wrote: A number of people mentioned documentation. To improve that, I'd like people to point out to me or the ML every little thing that is wrong, misleading, omitted, or just even a little bit unclear. (Even grammar mistakes, which there are many because the last revision was

Re: Where is the GGI project heading? [LONG]

2000-08-30 Thread Rodolphe Ortalo
Hello, I can remember a time when this projet attracted too much attention. (I'm sure several people on this list also remember that disastrous email burst originating from the linux-kernel folks in mid-1998.) Since then, I've never regretted the fact that GGI hides back in shadows and that

Re: Where is the GGI project heading? [LONG]

2000-08-30 Thread Christoph Egger
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Rodolphe Ortalo wrote: Hello, [snip] It seems to me that this project always had a very "research-oriented" profile. So, why not go even further in this direction? For example, I'd really like to propose some sort of hardware description language (and the associated

Re: Where is the GGI project heading?

2000-08-30 Thread Jon M. Taylor
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Andreas Beck wrote: Other than Steffen's KGI, we simply don't have a reasonable graphics layer that would make sense to include in the kernel. Kgicon is basically just another (more portable to alien systems) way to write framebuffer drivers. Nothing _Linux_ would need.

Re: Where is the GGI project heading?

2000-08-30 Thread Jon M. Taylor
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Andreas Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yeah, I know - all that sounds pretty pessimistic. And I always feel pretty sad, when it comes to that topic. GGI is "my baby" more than any other open source project. And there is quite some blood,

Re: Where is the GGI project heading?

2000-08-30 Thread Jon M. Taylor
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Christoph Egger wrote: Tell us what you need, tell us _that_ you need it, give us a hand implementing it, report bugs, and so on ! Well, I need GGI for OS indepence. And I need a working libgpf (Andreas?), I assume LibGPF == GGI font support? Don't let me

Re: Where is the GGI project heading?

2000-08-30 Thread Jon M. Taylor
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Stefan Seefeld wrote: Andreas Beck wrote: Yeah, I know - all that sounds pretty pessimistic. And I always feel pretty sad, when it comes to that topic. GGI is "my baby" more than any other open source project. And there is quite some blood, sweat and tears I and

Re: Where is the GGI project heading?

2000-08-30 Thread Christoph Egger
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Jon M. Taylor wrote: On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Christoph Egger wrote: Tell us what you need, tell us _that_ you need it, give us a hand implementing it, report bugs, and so on ! Well, I need GGI for OS indepence. And I need a working libgpf (Andreas?), I

Re: O.K. - let's go:

2000-08-30 Thread Andreas Beck
I made up one for LibGII - it is attached. *blush* ... I did it again ... o.k. - attached now. -- = Andreas Beck| Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]= LibGII FAQ == Please read the file README in this directory if you are not sure about what LibGII is. I.

Re: Where is the GGI project heading?

2000-08-30 Thread Jon M. Taylor
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Stefan Seefeld wrote: Cesar Crusius wrote: i think what ggi really needs is a deep breath, and a deep cleanup and reorganization. if you download the sources, they are a mess. there are sources that don't compile at all, and are known not to compile. libraries are

Re: Where is the GGI project heading?

2000-08-30 Thread Jon M. Taylor
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Christoph Egger wrote: On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Stefan Seefeld wrote: [snip] Remember: Release early and often... That's IMHO _very_ important! Even more important as having the source in an cvs tree! Sure. This can be taken too far, as with many

Re: Where is the GGI project heading?

2000-08-30 Thread Jon M. Taylor
On 29 Aug 2000, Tijs van Bakel wrote: What I'd like to see is that a tarball with the current lib/libggi and lib/libgii would be released as a _stable_ release. These two libraries don't need any fixes to be released; they've been stable for ages. I agree. I don't recall the