Re: [Gimp-developer] rectangle select tool specification

2006-08-12 Thread saulgoode
First off, fantastic job on the new tool. I think it is great and have  
no great complaints about its implementation. FWIW, I would mildly  
desire integer-only aspect ratios and I would greatly desire having  
the "make square" and "expand from center" options be available as key  
modifiers.


One thing I noticed is that for the "subtract" and "intersect" modes  
(whether attained through the Mode buttons or through key modifiers),  
The marching ants of the currently drawn area become a solid line  
whereas for the "replace" and "add" modes they remain marching ants  
(this is true for both the Rectangular and Elliptical tools). Perhaps  
there is a very useful reason for this behavior, I just found it  
anomalous.





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Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: rectangle select tool specification

2006-08-12 Thread Kevin Cozens

Juhana Sadeharju wrote:

In some other editor, the rectangle can be modified only by
grabbing the 8 handles located at the corners and at the
middle of edges. (That is an unnecessary limitation.)

The handles may confuse users if really the grabbing can be done by
clicking in anywhere on the edge. (That is the preferred way to do it
since the first interactive graphics system was written.)
The handles should be removed.


The "handles" aren't really handles like they are in many other software 
packages where you have to grab them to adjust the size of a selection.


In 2.3/CVS GIMP, the "handles" are four (yes, only four) tiny squares which 
appear in the inside corners of the selection. This provides a visual cue that 
the selection area can be altered. You need this cue since it is easy to 
toggle a selection between a fixed and alterable state.


When a selection is editable you move the cursor near an edge or corner of the 
selction. When you are close to the edge or corner the cursor changes to 
indicate that you can move that edge or corner of the selection (once you hold 
the left-mouse button down and drag that is).


I think this is a much easier method of resizing a selection than having to 
grab one of the 8 little handles that are used in most other programs.


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Re: [Gimp-developer] rectangle select tool specification

2006-08-12 Thread Kevin Cozens

Tim Jedlicka wrote:

you click inside
an existing selection, then a new, modifiable rectangular selection is
created, whose bounds are just large enough to completely enclose the
previous selection.


Found it! Thanks, Tim. For some reason I missed that the other day or else I 
didn't realize it would crop to the current selection. Now I see that 
information appears in the pop-up tooltop for the menu entry.


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Re: [Gimp-developer] on moving toward a 2.4 release

2006-08-12 Thread Alan Horkan

On Fri, 11 Aug 2006, Robert L Krawitz wrote:

>GIMP 2.0 was released on March 23, 2004, and then GIMP 2.2 on
>December 19, 2004.  This was a 9 month release cycle, which is
>quite reasonable.  Howver, it has been over a year and a half since
>the 2.2 release, and we are still not visibly nearing a 2.4
>release.  This slow progress is holding up important things,
>including, especially, GEGL integration.  What can be done?
>
> Compared with us (Gutenprint), that's still positively speedy.

Compared to Debian stable ...  life cycle of Giant turtles ... etc.

The longer the cycle continues without a release the more often users get
told thing are fixed in CVS or the unstable branch but if they are not
sure what they are doing then they should not use the unstable branch for
important work.

> If GEGL integration really is a hard problem, it's going to come out a
> lot better if you take the time to do it right rather than rushing it.

If I remember the dicussions correctly 2.4 was planned, to be followed by
the integration of the Google summer of code results and then GEGL after
that.  Where you suggest more 2.2 releases more 2.4 was what was
previously suggested.

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[Gimp-developer] Re: rectangle select tool specification

2006-08-12 Thread Juhana Sadeharju
>From: "William Skaggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>   The (New) Rectangle Select Tool
[ ... ]
>An important different from the old tool is that the
>rectangle you get is modifiable, as indicated by handles at the
>corners.  You should be able to click on any corner or edge and drag
>it -- the cursor should change to indicate when dragging is possible.

What the handles do in the tool?
In some other editor, the rectangle can be modified only by
grabbing the 8 handles located at the corners and at the
middle of edges. (That is an unnecessary limitation.)

The handles may confuse users if really the grabbing can be done by
clicking in anywhere on the edge. (That is the preferred way to do it
since the first interactive graphics system was written.)
The handles should be removed.

Juhana
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp Perspective Clone Tool

2006-08-12 Thread David Gowers
On 8/12/06, David Gowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Actually... For your tool to work similarly to the clone tool and perspective tool, I just realized it MUST be able to disable interpolation. Otherwise it doesn't work on INDEXED images (have you tried it on an indexed image yet?)
I just tried it on an indexed image.. It generally looks fairly messy (where interpolation occurs, off-colors (somewhat mismatched -- like the right brightness but wrong hue, etc..) usually appear)
Though, after messing around for a while, I admit I have little idea how to effectively employ the perspective clone tool.I noticed that the alpha channel is not handled yet (meaning that cloning 'empty' pixels results in arbitrary colors appearing)

Btw, I have added the same options for paint that are used in clone
tool, That looks good; consider taking out the 'pattern' vs 'image' choice if you can, unless you plan on supporting perspective cloning of patterns.
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