[Gimp-developer] Creating a new Layer

2010-05-06 Thread Thales img
Hello,

I have an idea and I'd like to know what you think about it.

Let's suppose a situation:

We make a 100 x 100px rectangle selection on a 2000 x 2000px, and we want to
create a new layer to paint the rectangle, so when we  ask a for a new layer
a popup is opened asking Name, Width, Height, etc, for the new layer, for
default the Width and Height values are 2000px² (our document's size), we
click Ok and we have a new layer.

My point here it is that we have a 2000px² layer for a 100px² object, and as
I can see - as a user - a 2000px² consumes more performance(I don't know if
it's Memory or CPU) than a 100px².

So my idea is to have a option when creating a new layer; maybe a checkbox
with something like:


[__] Follow Selection's Size

Did I make myself clear?

Anyway, thanks for the attention,

Thales

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Re: [Gimp-developer] [PATCH] x2: OpenRaster visibility attribute, OpenRaster layer position bugfix

2010-05-06 Thread Sven Neumann
Thanks, applied and pushed to master.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Creating a new Layer

2010-05-06 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
Hi Thales --

thank you for your feedback  -  we will take that in account while
working in the UI -

However, this need of yours can be easily implemented through a script
- either in Python or Script-fu (if you are on Windows and have issues
configuring GIMP- Python) -- this would give yiou this feature
immediatelly (instead of you having to wait several months for a new
gimp release).

feel free to write further if you want more information on such a plug-in.

  js
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On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Thales img tha...@imgbrasil.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I have an idea and I'd like to know what you think about it.
 Let's suppose a situation:
 We make a 100 x 100px rectangle selection on a 2000 x 2000px, and we want to
 create a new layer to paint the rectangle, so when we  ask a for a new layer
 a popup is opened asking Name, Width, Height, etc, for the new layer, for
 default the Width and Height values are 2000px² (our document's size), we
 click Ok and we have a new layer.
 My point here it is that we have a 2000px² layer for a 100px² object, and as
 I can see - as a user - a 2000px² consumes more performance(I don't know if
 it's Memory or CPU) than a 100px².
 So my idea is to have a option when creating a new layer; maybe a checkbox
 with something like:

 [__] Follow Selection's Size
 Did I make myself clear?

 Anyway, thanks for the attention,
 Thales
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Creating a new Layer

2010-05-06 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 05/06/2010 04:24 PM, Thales img wrote:
 Hello,

 I have an idea and I'd like to know what you think about it.

 Let's suppose a situation:

 We make a 100 x 100px rectangle selection on a 2000 x 2000px, and we
 want to create a new layer to paint the rectangle, so when we  ask a for
 a new layer a popup is opened asking Name, Width, Height, etc, for the
 new layer, for default the Width and Height values are 2000px² (our
 document's size), we click Ok and we have a new layer.

 My point here it is that we have a 2000px² layer for a 100px² object,
 and as I can see - as a user - a 2000px² consumes more performance(I
 don't know if it's Memory or CPU) than a 100px².

 So my idea is to have a option when creating a new layer; maybe a
 checkbox with something like:

 [__] Follow Selection's Size

That is a step in the wrong direction, the right thing to do is to make 
layer boundaries automatically managed so a user won't be bothered with 
the New Layer dialog at all.

  / Martin



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Re: [Gimp-developer] Creating a new Layer

2010-05-06 Thread Thales img
@Martin
It seams to be much more difficult, don't you think?


On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 05/06/2010 04:24 PM, Thales img wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I have an idea and I'd like to know what you think about it.
 
  Let's suppose a situation:
 
  We make a 100 x 100px rectangle selection on a 2000 x 2000px, and we
  want to create a new layer to paint the rectangle, so when we  ask a for
  a new layer a popup is opened asking Name, Width, Height, etc, for the
  new layer, for default the Width and Height values are 2000px² (our
  document's size), we click Ok and we have a new layer.
 
  My point here it is that we have a 2000px² layer for a 100px² object,
  and as I can see - as a user - a 2000px² consumes more performance(I
  don't know if it's Memory or CPU) than a 100px².
 
  So my idea is to have a option when creating a new layer; maybe a
  checkbox with something like:
 
  [__] Follow Selection's Size

 That is a step in the wrong direction, the right thing to do is to make
 layer boundaries automatically managed so a user won't be bothered with
 the New Layer dialog at all.

  / Martin



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Re: [Gimp-developer] Creating a new Layer

2010-05-06 Thread Sven Neumann
On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 19:37 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote:

 That is a step in the wrong direction, the right thing to do is to make 
 layer boundaries automatically managed so a user won't be bothered with 
 the New Layer dialog at all.

Right. But until that change has been done, it might make sense to
include the layer size in the dialog and to default to the selection
size instead of image size. Worth considering at least...


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Creating a new Layer

2010-05-06 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 05/06/2010 08:50 PM, Thales img wrote:
 @Martin
 It seams to be much more difficult, don't you think?

Well, yes, but that can hardly be an argument for doing the wrong thing. 
It is important to align resources on a project lacking them, and doing 
what you suggest would be a wasted effort in the long term.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Creating a new Layer

2010-05-06 Thread peter sikking
Thales img wrote:

  We make a 100 x 100px rectangle selection on a 2000 x 2000px, and we
  want to create a new layer to paint the rectangle, so when we  ask  
 a for
  a new layer a popup is opened asking Name, Width, Height, etc, for  
 the
  new layer, for default the Width and Height values are 2000px² (our
  document's size), we click Ok and we have a new layer.
 
  My point here it is that we have a 2000px² layer for a 100px²  
 object,
  and as I can see - as a user - a 2000px² consumes more performance(I
  don't know if it's Memory or CPU) than a 100px².
 
  So my idea is to have a option when creating a new layer; maybe a
  checkbox with something like:
 
  [__] Follow Selection's Size

this whole thing is way too much incidental to include in the dialog.

users might even conclude that it is the preferred way to do it
like that. since as noted we are going to solve the problem from
the other end, I think all the copy selection + paste as new layer
variants we have are enough to tie us over.

 That is a step in the wrong direction, the right thing to do is to  
 make
 layer boundaries automatically managed so a user won't be bothered  
 with
 the New Layer dialog at all.

 It seams to be much more difficult, don't you think?

not for users.

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[Gimp-developer] Fwd: GIMP @ LGM 2010

2010-05-06 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
Moin -

Hi folks -

I think I have seen no e-mail on this list about LGM 2010 - it is due
in a couple weeks.
(I know I am at fault with the reimbursements for last year - lets get
that moving as well)

So, who is intending to get to Brussels? Can someone help organizing the lists?
We also should have to plan GIMP activities beforehand.

I  just got the e-mail pasted bellow from Femke

regards,

   js
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From: Femke Snelting fe...@constantvzw.org
Date: Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:43 PM
Subject: GIMP @ LGM 2010
To: gwid...@gmail.com
Cc: Jon Phillips j...@rejon.org, Louis Desjardins
louis.desjard...@gmail.com, Nathan Willis nwil...@glyphography.com


Hello Joao,

I'm Femke, local organiser for LGM 2010.

We're currently finalising the program and I was wondering whether
GIMP team members would like to give talks, demo's or anything else?

Do you have plans for sponsoring teammembers to participate in the
Brussels meeting and if so, is there any way we can help to do this?

Let me know!

best,


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