Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp connotations ?
On Mon, 15 May 2006, Fennec wrote: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 15:11:17 -0400 From: Fennec [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: GIMP Developer gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp connotations ? Well... I don't think I've even seen an IBM product with a name as bad as The GIMP. I think a name change would be a good idea- it might be a As you can see from this discussion non-English speakers aren't bothered by the name. More often a project picks a name without realising it means something rude in another language. Distributions have already tackled the problem of confusing project names by showing a generic description such as Image Editor instead. little damaging in the short term, yes - just imagine all the fun that the various Linux distros would have, for instance - but would probably lead to a brighter future. Using the full title GNU Image Manipulation Program is cumbersome but an adequate workaround in the meantime. You'd need a real initiative from the real Top Brass people to change the name, though, or it would never happen - until then, arguments about it are just so much hot air. I wasn't arguing. I was stating the fact that the name causes problems since in English gimp is more often known as to mean person with a limp or interested in bondage than it is a type of knot (a meaning I only learned after looking it up in a dictionary after a similar discussion on this list_. Sven has already made it very clear he doesn't want to change the name and would not even accept patches which made it easier to change the name. (Firstly I'd like to remove the over use of the word within the application lables but if I were allowed I would try to make it a configuration option.) Certification (as this thread was originally about) would be best handled by a third party who already do other certification. -- Alan ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp connotations ?
Florent Monnier wrote: What are these funny connotations in the English language ? Could someone explain me ? The results returned from Googling for define: gimp include these: # lameness: disability of walking due to crippling of the legs or feet # limp: walk impeded by some physical limitation or injury; The old woman hobbles down to the store every day wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn * Gimp is a usually derogatory term used to refer to a (normally male) sexual submissive, typically dressed in black leather (or rubber) and wearing a mask of the same material. This apparel emphasises sexuality by drawing attention to the crotch and chest. Sadomasochistic practice often features in the notion of the gimp, with a partnership between gimp and dominatrix (or dominant). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimp_(sadomasochism) The word gimpy is more common, it means noticeable lameness or crippled: disabled in the feet or legs. -- Bill __ __ __ __ Sent via the CNPRC Email system at primate.ucdavis.edu ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp connotations ?
William Skaggs wrote: The results returned from Googling for define: gimp include these: Sadomasochistic practice often features in the notion of the gimp, with a partnership between gimp and dominatrix (or dominant). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimp_(sadomasochism) Imagine how a gimp must feel when he's converted to a penquin! I don't even want to think about the dragonfly thing: They are very popular at summer camps where you might have made one. They are often used to form animals, like dragonflies or penquins[...] What an insane society, exposing their kids to such dirty, dirty[1] things! http://www.google.de/search?q=define:+gimpdefl=en And Gimp are even sold in stores! For example, see the shocking display at http://www.hancockfabrics.com/shopping/search/searchresultsmain.jsp?keyword=gimp (note the company's name, it has the evil C-word in it!!??!) Yes, selective quoting is fun :) SCNR, Michael :) [1] if dropped -- The GIMP http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp connotations ?
Well... I don't think I've even seen an IBM product with a name as bad as The GIMP. I think a name change would be a good idea- it might be a little damaging in the short term, yes - just imagine all the fun that the various Linux distros would have, for instance - but would probably lead to a brighter future. You'd need a real initiative from the real Top Brass people to change the name, though, or it would never happen - until then, arguments about it are just so much hot air. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp connotations ?
Fennec wrote: You'd need a real initiative from the real Top Brass people to change the name, though, or it would never happen - until then, arguments about it are just so much hot air. ACK. BTW, the The isn't part of the name, although it has been used a lot in the past (including my sig, I've changed this now). I'd be really interested to know about the arguments that were held about the name problem for the gimp as in yarn, does anyone have links to them? Michael -- GIMP http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp connotations ?
À (At) 15h11 -0400 15/05/06, Fennec écrivait (wrote) : Well... I don't think I've even seen an IBM product with a name as bad as The GIMP. I think a name change would be a good idea- it might be a little damaging in the short term, yes - just imagine all the fun that the various Linux distros would have, for instance - but would probably lead to a brighter future. A name is only a name. What's in a name? A rose, by any other name, would smell as sweet. - W. Shakespeare BTW and for all to read, FLOSS or FOSS or OSS is not a product is not a product is not a product. GIMP is not a product. It's a project. Period. I acknowledge this is hard to understand for some people. Once they do, they just forget about unproductive discussion such as this one. You must be joking. Louis You'd need a real initiative from the real Top Brass people to change the name, though, or it would never happen - until then, arguments about it are just so much hot air. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp connotations ?
In all seriousness I would not risk putting the word gimp anywhere on my CV and I have had funny reactions (funny weird, never funny ha ha) when explaining the GIMP to users not already familiar with it. Remember that not in all languages the gimp word has funny connotations, but only in english. I got the word gimp in my curriculum and it's ok. Actually the people on human resources don't know the meaning of most of the acronyms in a curriculum ;). What are these funny connotations in the English language ? Could someone explain me ? -- thanks in advance ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp connotations ?
On 5/14/06, Florent Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In all seriousness I would not risk putting the word gimp anywhere on my CV and I have had funny reactions (funny weird, never funny ha ha) when explaining the GIMP to users not already familiar with it. Remember that not in all languages the gimp word has funny connotations, but only in english. I got the word gimp in my curriculum and it's ok. Actually the people on human resources don't know the meaning of most of the acronyms in a curriculum ;).What are these funny connotations in the English language ?Could someone explain me ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimp_%28sadomasochism%29-- thanks in advance___ Gimp-developer mailing listGimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDUhttps://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp connotations ?
Also, Gimp == cripple, pejorative (sometimes derogatory, insulting, bad) term for someone with a disability - i.e. After twisting his ankle, he sure is a gimp. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer