[Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-27 Thread Maciej Pilichowski
From: Alchemie foto\\grafiche [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 May be is missed, also the possibility to select transparent area as was a color,meaning using the magic wand or the color selector tool.. But since there is alpha to selection(=select transparency) that is no too missed... well IS missed

Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-25 Thread Daniel Hornung
On Wednesday 24 September 2008, Chris Moller wrote: Maciej Pilichowski wrote: So there is obstacle, indeed. And till now I have no idea how to solve this. Might be a bit of a wild branch on this topic, but I'm wondering if all the effects described here could be implemented as a

Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-25 Thread Daniel Hornung
On Thursday 25 September 2008, Chris Moller wrote: Yeah, I expect it's the same function, but adding a transparent layer, painting it, switching to subtract mode, and merging down, is more cumbersome than just painting in subtract mode would be. The documentation site only refers to those

Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-25 Thread Alchemie foto\grafiche
Excuse the double post  in the first the subject went somehow lost and the rest reformatted in a weird way with question marks filling blank spaces -- May be that this long discussion suffers a lack of

Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, sorry, but your mail is still so badly formatted that I simply refuse to even attempt to read it. Could you please stick to the rules of the mailing-list and send text-only mails instead of this HTML crap with tables? Thank you very much. Sven

Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-25 Thread Patrick Horgan
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, sorry, but your mail is still so badly formatted that I simply refuse to even attempt to read it. Could you please stick to the rules of the mailing-list and send text-only mails instead of this HTML crap with tables? Thank you very much. Please don't think I'm

Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-25 Thread Salvatore De Paolis
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:59:55 -0700 Patrick Horgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Please don't think I'm advocating for HTML mail for the list I'm not, just had a brain fart. Does anyone else find it ironic that a mailing list having to do with high quality graphics is text only? grin;

[Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-24 Thread Maciej Pilichowski
Hello, From: bgw [EMAIL PROTECTED] How does draw with transparency differ from using eraser tool with x% opacity? Pencil and eraser are counterparts of course, but I wished for transparent color, not just transparent pencil (yes, it exists, and it is eraser). From: Chris Moller [EMAIL

Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-24 Thread David Gowers
Hi Maciej, On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Maciej Pilichowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, From: bgw [EMAIL PROTECTED] How does draw with transparency differ from using eraser tool with x% opacity? Pencil and eraser are counterparts of course, but I wished for transparent color, not

Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-24 Thread Chris Moller
Maciej Pilichowski wrote: So there is obstacle, indeed. And till now I have no idea how to solve this. Might be a bit of a wild branch on this topic, but I'm wondering if all the effects described here could be implemented as a /subtractive/ process. I haven't looked at gimp's

[Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-23 Thread Maciej Pilichowski
Hello, I was asked to bring this issue to the ML instead of discussing it on bugzilla so here we go. Original post: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=553003 Please, provide transparent color or in other words -- treat transparency _also_ as a color. I know GIMP has alpha channel

Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-23 Thread Patrick Horgan
Maciej Pilichowski wrote: It would be useful (and _intuitive_) to have black color, white color, ... and transparent "color", so user could pick up color dialog, choose transparent and paint/draw with transparency. That would be cool! Patrick

Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-23 Thread Simon Budig
Maciej Pilichowski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Please, provide transparent color or in other words -- treat transparency _also_ as a color. I don't think that this is a sensible approach in general. We currently use alpha to do proper antialiasing, compositing existing photos on top of each

Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-23 Thread David Odin
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 08:38:53PM +0200, Maciej Pilichowski wrote: Hello, I know GIMP has alpha channel and it provides transparency. However it is artificial for me that you have colors and then you have distinct entity -- transparency. It would be useful (and _intuitive_) to have

Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-23 Thread bgw
Maciej Pilichowski wrote: Hello, I was asked to bring this issue to the ML instead of discussing it on bugzilla so here we go. Original post: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=553003 Please, provide transparent color or in other words -- treat transparency _also_ as a

Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-23 Thread Maciej Pilichowski
Hello, From: Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] We currently use alpha to do proper antialiasing, compositing existing photos on top of each other and in all of these cases a coupled alphacolor (= color + alpha value) would be cumbersome and unhelpful. Why unhelpful? Note, that you are already

Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-23 Thread Chris Moller
Maciej Pilichowski wrote: Hello, I was asked to bring this issue to the ML instead of discussing it on bugzilla so here we go. Original post: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=553003 Please, provide transparent color or in other words -- treat transparency _also_ as a

Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-23 Thread Simon Budig
Maciej Pilichowski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] But even taking him into account the current model has served us well for the last years and there has been very few discussion about this specific problem, if it cropped up it was in the context of indexed

Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-23 Thread David Odin
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 09:19:09PM +0200, Maciej Pilichowski wrote: From: David Odin [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the real world I live in, I have yet to see a transparent pencil. Wish granted -- simply use your finger (I assume you thought of glass painting because it is only good metaphor

Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-23 Thread Daniel Hornung
On Tuesday 23 September 2008, bgw wrote: How does draw with transparency differ from using eraser tool with x% opacity? You could change the color information at the same places (and less importantly in a single step) you change the alpha information. At least that's how I understand it.

Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] provide transparent color

2008-09-23 Thread Michael Schumacher
Simon Budig wrote: Also I think that most of the tasks you mention in other mails - like cleaning up edges - can nicely be done with the current gimp, provided that you don't need 100% exact control over the alpha values We do have an old feature request which does deal with different ways of