Re: [Gimp-developer] pygimp on windows? success!
lode leroy wrote: Ah, now it starts up, and the Python-fu is there... yippee! It should do so now out of the box, at least in current CVS... maybe except for the interp file, but we should be able to fix this today. And now lets hope some autotools-wizard can deduce from this mail what needs to change... This has been done yesterday by yosh and me. I have to say that I'm surprised that it did work for you, as we had to change the gimpinterpreterdb.c file in order to make it work... Nevertheless, your mail provided some important hints that helped to finally get pygimp part of the regular win32 build of GIMP. So starting with GIMP 2.4, we will have Python as an additional scripting language - one that can probably considered to be more standard than Scheme. Thanks again for your input! If you want to continue to work on scripting, and get even more scripting languages to GIMP on the windows plattform, there is gimp-perl, some java classes, a ruby binding and iirc even something for Tcl... :) Michael -- The GIMP http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] pygimp on windows? success!
On Sunday 26 June 2005 11:19, Michael Schumacher wrote: lode leroy wrote: Ah, now it starts up, and the Python-fu is there... yippee! It should do so now out of the box, at least in current CVS... maybe except for the interp file, but we should be able to fix this today. Horraayy!!! :-) (...) Thanks again for your input! If you want to continue to work on scripting, and get even more scripting languages to GIMP on the windows plattform, there is gimp-perl, some java classes, a ruby binding and iirc even something for Tcl... :) And there was the guy asking for a Lua interpreter, and I rememeber someone was working on GIMP-C# Michael ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] pygimp on windows? success!
Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote: On Sunday 26 June 2005 11:19, Michael Schumacher wrote: If you want to continue to work on scripting, and get even more scripting languages to GIMP on the windows plattform, there is gimp-perl, some java classes, a ruby binding and iirc even something for Tcl... :) And there was the guy asking for a Lua interpreter, and I rememeber someone was working on GIMP-C# Gimp# is actively maintained: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimp-sharp/ The Lua interpreter is handled in this bug report: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171831 Apparently, there is already some code, see comment #12 - yes, I know that's my comment, but I don't have the code. HTH, Michael -- The GIMP http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] pygimp on windows? success!
On 6/24/05, Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Michael Schumacher wrote: Great work! Seems like we will finally have pygimp 2.4 for GIMP 2.4 on each of the officially supported platforms. Hm, how about letting Script-Fu/Tiny-Fu die in favor of it? ;) The best thing about Script-Fu has been knowing it would be available and included in the 'default install'. Many existing scripts are written in Script-Fu and as you know we still regularly get users asking how to get and old script to work with the current version. From a technical standpoint it is great that Python and Perl subsystems are well achitectured and entirely seperable but the failure of distributors to include them in the 'default install' or even bother to build them has dicouraged people from using them. Making it possible to leave things out is different from it being a good idea to leave things out and I do not think users are given the best impression of the GIMP because to the ordinary user if it is not installed it may as well not exists. My point is Script-Fu remains useful despite it's flaws and I am concerned by the potential side-effects of killing it off. Agreed! There is great value in having a scripting interface that is guaranteed to be present in any gimp installation. Regardless of how hard we implore, people are quite simply not going to universally include script-fu in their gimp packages if we package it separately ourselves. That is human nature. While I think it would be great to replace script-fu with tiny-fu, it would be a big mistake to ship a gimp tarball that doesn't include either. Rockwalrus ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] pygimp on windows? success!
Python's module mechanism doesn't recognize the dll files as a python
module. Once you solve this (e.g. add or remove the compiler or linker flag
that makes it work or break resp.), it should work.
well, the first problem just now is that there is no .dll resulting from
the autotools compilation of the pygimp module.
I guess libtool should have produced a .dll file, as no-one mentions a
problem with that...
So check the logs from 'make'
$ make clean; make
there we have it:
*** Warning: linker path does not have real file for library -lpython24.
*** Warning: libtool could not satisfy all declared inter-library
*** dependencies of module gimpmodule. Therefore, libtool will create
*** a static module, that should work as long as the dlopening
*** application is linked with the -dlopen flag.
Aha! So I edited the Makefile, to add the missing path. and now alt least I
have a dll,
although its called 'gimpmodule.dll'... suppose I can just rename that to
gimp.dll...
It is a python module (actually two of them), but even if you make sure
that
python should find them (either by a .pth file in python's
Lib/site-packages
directory or by copying it there, it doesn't work.
Didn't get a pth file from autotools...
So what am I supposed to do now?
Do I simply put the dll in site-packages?
Hmm... that seems to have worked!
make install should be convinced to do this for me :-)
[or is this what the pth is about? do I need it to tell that gimp is in
gimpmodule.dll?]
Gimp now loads the .py files and now they complain about
gimpfu module and no longer about the gimp module !!!
Ah, I needed to modify environ/pygimp.env
Good.
Now it's the _gimpenums module... hmm... there is no dll for this one
either...
The only difference I see is that Makefile.am seems to be missing
$(no_undefined) for _gimpenumsmodule.
Ah. got the dll now!
Same for gimpcolormodule...
damn. Now I get undefined reference to `gimp_rgba_parse_css'
and it is missing from 'gimpcolor.def
$ for f in /target/lib/gimp/2.0/python/*module.dll; do cp $f ${f/module/};
done
Ah, now it starts up, and the Python-fu is there... yippee!
And now lets hope some autotools-wizard can deduce from this mail what needs
to change...
The detection of python on msys is not too good:
$ python -c 'import sys; print sys.exec_prefix'
c:\Python24
which needs to be
c:/Python24
so I added a few [ | tr '' '/' ]'s in configure, but I suppose it needs
to go in some
other file... maybe I need an updated python.m4 (msys has aclocal-1.7)?
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Re: [Gimp-developer] pygimp on windows? success!
Von: lode leroy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aha! So I edited the Makefile, to add the missing path. and now alt least
I have a dll, although its called 'gimpmodule.dll'... suppose I can just
rename that to gimp.dll...
Didn't get a pth file from autotools...
So what am I supposed to do now?
Write one yourself. This is something that should be done by the gimp
installer.
Do I simply put the dll in site-packages?
Hmm... that seems to have worked!
make install should be convinced to do this for me :-)
[or is this what the pth is about? do I need it to tell that gimp is in
gimpmodule.dll?]
pth files include additional paths for python to look for modules. Copying
the DLLs to site-packages is another way to do this.
Gimp now loads the .py files and now they complain about
gimpfu module and no longer about the gimp module !!!
Ah, I needed to modify environ/pygimp.env
Good.
Now it's the _gimpenums module... hmm... there is no dll for this one
either...
The only difference I see is that Makefile.am seems to be missing
$(no_undefined) for _gimpenumsmodule.
Maybe this was the problem...
Ah. got the dll now!
Same for gimpcolormodule...
damn. Now I get undefined reference to `gimp_rgba_parse_css'
and it is missing from 'gimpcolor.def
This is a problem in GIMP itself then, the function has to be added to the
def file.
$ for f in /target/lib/gimp/2.0/python/*module.dll; do cp $f ${f/module/};
done
Ah, now it starts up, and the Python-fu is there... yippee!
Did I get this right - Python is picky about the name of the module files?
And now lets hope some autotools-wizard can deduce from this mail what
needs
to change...
Some -o adjustements, adding the no-undefined ...
The detection of python on msys is not too good:
$ python -c 'import sys; print sys.exec_prefix'
c:\Python24
which needs to be
c:/Python24
I have these in my CPPFLAGS and LDFLAGS, so the headers etc... get found
Great work! Seems like we will finally have pygimp 2.4 for GIMP 2.4 on each
of the officially supported platforms. Hm, how about letting
Script-Fu/Tiny-Fu die in favor of it? ;)
Michael
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Re: [Gimp-developer] pygimp on windows? success!
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Michael Schumacher wrote: Great work! Seems like we will finally have pygimp 2.4 for GIMP 2.4 on each of the officially supported platforms. Hm, how about letting Script-Fu/Tiny-Fu die in favor of it? ;) The best thing about Script-Fu has been knowing it would be available and included in the 'default install'. Many existing scripts are written in Script-Fu and as you know we still regularly get users asking how to get and old script to work with the current version. From a technical standpoint it is great that Python and Perl subsystems are well achitectured and entirely seperable but the failure of distributors to include them in the 'default install' or even bother to build them has dicouraged people from using them. Making it possible to leave things out is different from it being a good idea to leave things out and I do not think users are given the best impression of the GIMP because to the ordinary user if it is not installed it may as well not exists. My point is Script-Fu remains useful despite it's flaws and I am concerned by the potential side-effects of killing it off. Better go and improve my python skills... - Alan H. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
