Re: [Gimp-developer] EXIF data missing after jpg save
On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 14:20 -0700, Bill Skaggs wrote: > Jim Sabatke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It seems that in 2.4.6 that exif data are missing when saving as a > > compressed jpg. They are not missing on jpgs with no compression. > > There is no such thing as a jpg with no compression, so it is pretty Just for the record (and I know I'm late), there is: http://www.jpeg.org/jpeg/jpegls.html Not that that's widely used ;-). > much impossible to make sense of what you are saying. It would > be helpful if you would describe the actions you took and the > error messages you received in a more concrete way. What were > the settings you used when saving as jpg? What were the messages > that told you whether or not exif data is present? > > -- Bill > ___ > Gimp-developer mailing list > Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer -- Nils Philippsen / Wilhelmstraße 22 / D-71229 Leonberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 Ever noticed that common sense isn't really all that common? ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] EXIF data missing after jpg save
Plinnell wrote: > >> * Jim Sabatke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [06-04-08 14:09]: >> > OK, I'm processing Nikon D200 NEF (RAW) photos with gimp and ufraw. >> > ufraw shows the exif data properly. > [...] >> I just checked the build logs for more recent Suse versions and ufraw >> does >> definitely have exif support. > It is not that the EXIF header is missing, it just somewhat incompatible with _most_ programs around. Only `gimp' and `exiftool' seem to be able to read it. For example: $ exifread MDBonsai_4099.jpg filename=MDBonsai_4099.jpg End of file found prematurely. ERROR $ exiftool MDBonsai_4099.jpg ExifTool Version Number : 6.57 File Name : MDBonsai_4099.jpg File Size : 122 kB File Modification Date/Time : 2008:06:29 22:55:57 File Type : JPEG MIME Type : image/jpeg JFIF Version: 1.1 Resolution Unit : inches X Resolution: 320 Y Resolution: 320 Comment : Great Falls, MD. 2008/06/15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Image Width : 960 Image Height: 787 Image Size : 960x787 -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/EXIF-data-missing-after-jpg-save-tp17630063p18255542.html Sent from the Gimp Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] EXIF data missing after jpg save
> Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 07:25:23 -0400 > From: Paka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] EXIF data missing after jpg save > To: gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > * Jim Sabatke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [06-04-08 14:09]: > > OK, I'm processing Nikon D200 NEF (RAW) photos with gimp and ufraw. > > ufraw shows the exif data properly. > > > > When I edit the photo in gimp and go to save with the standard settings, > > the exif data do not show up on my pbase website. This is a new > > behavior as exif data have always shown up before. > > the opensuse team that is maintaining gimp/ufraw does not believe that > exif data is important to the project and do not include support for > exif. I questioned stbinner at suse dot de several years ago (iirc) > and was imformed. Perhaps several questions/comments from different > users would convince them otherwise. Maintainers names appear in the > changelog comments. > I just checked the build logs for more recent Suse versions and ufraw does definitely have exif support. Peter ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] EXIF data missing after jpg save
Omari Stephens wrote: > Sven Neumann wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 07:25 -0400, Paka wrote: >> >>> the opensuse team that is maintaining gimp/ufraw does not believe that >>> exif data is important to the project and do not include support for >>> exif. >> Easy enough to copy the plug-in binary from a compatible distribution >> that compiles GIMP with Exif support enabled. > Are you all following a red herring? I think Jim said, in his response to my > email, that the EXIF data always exists after the JPEG has been saved from > the GIMP. > > --xsdg I always compile gimp myself to be sure I get everything I want in it. It's almost the only opensuse program I do that with. And yes, I did find that the exif data were there after saving to jpg; the problem must be with the pbase site. What confused me and made me think it was gimp was that it started immediately after compiling/installing gimp 2.4.7. Just an unlucky coincidence I suppose. Jim ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] EXIF data missing after jpg save
Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 07:25 -0400, Paka wrote: > >> the opensuse team that is maintaining gimp/ufraw does not believe that >> exif data is important to the project and do not include support for >> exif. > > Easy enough to copy the plug-in binary from a compatible distribution > that compiles GIMP with Exif support enabled. Are you all following a red herring? I think Jim said, in his response to my email, that the EXIF data always exists after the JPEG has been saved from the GIMP. --xsdg ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] EXIF data missing after jpg save
Hi, On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 07:25 -0400, Paka wrote: > the opensuse team that is maintaining gimp/ufraw does not believe that > exif data is important to the project and do not include support for > exif. Easy enough to copy the plug-in binary from a compatible distribution that compiles GIMP with Exif support enabled. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] EXIF data missing after jpg save
Paka writes: > the opensuse team that is maintaining gimp/ufraw does not believe that > exif data is important to the project and do not include support for > exif. I questioned stbinner at suse dot de several years ago (iirc) > and was imformed. Perhaps several questions/comments from different > users would convince them otherwise. If they can't be persuaded, Jim might want to look into jhead's -te option, which copies exif from one file to another, so you can "put back" exif that's been stripped. ...Akkana ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] EXIF data missing after jpg save
* Jim Sabatke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [06-04-08 14:09]: > > OK, I'm processing Nikon D200 NEF (RAW) photos with gimp and ufraw. > ufraw shows the exif data properly. > > When I edit the photo in gimp and go to save with the standard settings, > the exif data do not show up on my pbase website. This is a new > behavior as exif data have always shown up before. > the opensuse team that is maintaining gimp/ufraw does not believe that exif data is important to the project and do not include support for exif. I questioned stbinner at suse dot de several years ago (iirc) and was imformed. Perhaps several questions/comments from different users would convince them otherwise. Maintainers names appear in the changelog comments. I am assuming that my memory is not failing and you do/did use opensuse? -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] EXIF data missing after jpg save
Omari Stephens wrote: > Jim Sabatke wrote: >> Bill Skaggs wrote: >>> Jim Sabatke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It seems that in 2.4.6 that exif data are missing when saving as a compressed jpg. They are not missing on jpgs with no compression. >>> There is no such thing as a jpg with no compression, so it is pretty >>> much impossible to make sense of what you are saying. It would >>> be helpful if you would describe the actions you took and the >>> error messages you received in a more concrete way. What were >>> the settings you used when saving as jpg? What were the messages >>> that told you whether or not exif data is present? >>> >>> -- Bill >> >> OK, I'm processing Nikon D200 NEF (RAW) photos with gimp and ufraw. >> ufraw shows the exif data properly. >> >> When I edit the photo in gimp and go to save with the standard settings, >> the exif data do not show up on my pbase website. This is a new >> behavior as exif data have always shown up before. >> >> I looked at the help on the pbase site and it said most of the problems >> saving exif data come from high compression. >> >> So, I re-edited a photo and saved it. On the the "Save as JPEG" screen >> "Save EXEF data" was checked. >> >> On the "Subsampling:" drop box, I selected "1x1,1x1,1x1 (best quality). >> >> Then I saved and the exif data showed on my pbase photo. >> >> I was mistaken that I changed the compression. It was still at 85. > > Is the EXIF data not visible in the first case with a tool designed > specifically for that purpose, such as metacam? > > --xsdg > > I couldn't find metacam anywhere, but a search through freshmeat.net showed the program jhead. Jhead did indeed find the exif data in the photo that did NOT display exif data in my album. Since the timing on this issue coincided exactly with compiling and installing gimp 2.4.6, I assumed too quickly that a bug had been introduced. That is not the case. Apparently the gallery program has changed in some way that requires a different setting on saving jpegs. Sorry for the confusion cause and thanks for your help. Jim ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] EXIF data missing after jpg save
Jim Sabatke wrote: > Bill Skaggs wrote: >> Jim Sabatke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> It seems that in 2.4.6 that exif data are missing when saving as a >>> compressed jpg. They are not missing on jpgs with no compression. >> There is no such thing as a jpg with no compression, so it is pretty >> much impossible to make sense of what you are saying. It would >> be helpful if you would describe the actions you took and the >> error messages you received in a more concrete way. What were >> the settings you used when saving as jpg? What were the messages >> that told you whether or not exif data is present? >> >> -- Bill > > OK, I'm processing Nikon D200 NEF (RAW) photos with gimp and ufraw. > ufraw shows the exif data properly. > > When I edit the photo in gimp and go to save with the standard settings, > the exif data do not show up on my pbase website. This is a new > behavior as exif data have always shown up before. > > I looked at the help on the pbase site and it said most of the problems > saving exif data come from high compression. > > So, I re-edited a photo and saved it. On the the "Save as JPEG" screen > "Save EXEF data" was checked. > > On the "Subsampling:" drop box, I selected "1x1,1x1,1x1 (best quality). > > Then I saved and the exif data showed on my pbase photo. > > I was mistaken that I changed the compression. It was still at 85. Is the EXIF data not visible in the first case with a tool designed specifically for that purpose, such as metacam? --xsdg ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] EXIF data missing after jpg save
Bill Skaggs wrote: > Jim Sabatke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It seems that in 2.4.6 that exif data are missing when saving as a >> compressed jpg. They are not missing on jpgs with no compression. > > There is no such thing as a jpg with no compression, so it is pretty > much impossible to make sense of what you are saying. It would > be helpful if you would describe the actions you took and the > error messages you received in a more concrete way. What were > the settings you used when saving as jpg? What were the messages > that told you whether or not exif data is present? > > -- Bill OK, I'm processing Nikon D200 NEF (RAW) photos with gimp and ufraw. ufraw shows the exif data properly. When I edit the photo in gimp and go to save with the standard settings, the exif data do not show up on my pbase website. This is a new behavior as exif data have always shown up before. I looked at the help on the pbase site and it said most of the problems saving exif data come from high compression. So, I re-edited a photo and saved it. On the the "Save as JPEG" screen "Save EXEF data" was checked. On the "Subsampling:" drop box, I selected "1x1,1x1,1x1 (best quality). Then I saved and the exif data showed on my pbase photo. I was mistaken that I changed the compression. It was still at 85. Hope this helps, Jim ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] EXIF data missing after jpg save
Jim Sabatke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems that in 2.4.6 that exif data are missing when saving as a > compressed jpg. They are not missing on jpgs with no compression. There is no such thing as a jpg with no compression, so it is pretty much impossible to make sense of what you are saying. It would be helpful if you would describe the actions you took and the error messages you received in a more concrete way. What were the settings you used when saving as jpg? What were the messages that told you whether or not exif data is present? -- Bill ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
