Re: [Gimp-developer] Run-Mode & Enums
> Speculating, and taking no action, only makes you look foolish. Sorry, I didn't take actions because I never used python, now I notice, from your example, in python you can pass and argument naming it, very nice ... You were very clear, and my assumption of seeing script-fu as core instead a plugin lead me to wrong conclusions about what PDB-browser should do. Thank's a lot david, you were very helpful. Best Regards Pablo ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Run-Mode & Enums
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Pablo Yaggi wrote: >> Script-fu has no special status, it's just an extension to gimp > >> In fact, Gimp-Python has been the standard recommended language interface > >> for quite a while now. > > Will it be deprecated some time soon ? No, Script-Fu will not be deprecated soon. Though it's less powerful than Gimp-Python, it is more secure than Gimp-Python, and people have lots of Script-Fu scripts. > > Gimp-python is packed as an optional package in mi distro (mandriva) besides > > you need python installed, script-fu is supported in the gimp core, that > > sounds like python being the extension, don't you think ? No, extension is an actual idea GIMP recognises, you can find it in the plugin browser. 'Type' says 'extension' or 'plugin' or 'temp procedure' Script-fu is supported in the gimp core in the same way that Gimp-Python is: Not at all. They are both plugins. Script-fu is classified as an extension, Gimp-Python is classified as a plugin. Either can be removed from GIMP by deleting some files; I once removed script-fu because it filled my menus with items I did not have any use for. GIMP continued to work perfectly. > > > so it will be no valid for python either, if the order of your example > parameters is correct. Also the pdb-browser its a helper Speculating, and taking no action, only makes you look foolish. This has been working for a long time. The PDB is a standard mechanism that doesn't care at all about Script-fu or any other plugin. I have tried it myself. For example (commands that can be executed in Gimp-Python console): # this calls script_fu_sphere non-interactively pdb.script_fu_sphere (10, 180, 1, (1,1,1), (1,0,0)) # this calls script_fu_sphere interactively, a window will pop-up. pdb.script_fu_sphere (10, 180, 1, (1,1,1), (1,0,0), run_mode = 0) > for the console (it launches from there) No, it is not a helper for the script-fu console. It's a helper for plugin programming, which means *any* plugin, whether written in C, C++, Python, Script-Fu, Ruby, Perl, or Lua. > , but entering commands in the > > console prompt like it shows, in many cases (when calling other scripts) > > you get errors. That is because of the inflexible behaviour of script-fu, and the fact that GIMP doesn't care about what it's plugins do, script-fu is not special, it's just an extension to GIMP, not a vital part of it. The inability for script-fus to call other script-fus with control over run-mode is purely a design decision that the author of the Script-Fu extension made. David ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Run-Mode & Enums
> Script-fu has no special status, it's just an extension to gimp > In fact, Gimp-Python has been the standard recommended language interface > for quite a while now. Will it be deprecated some time soon ? Gimp-python is packed as an optional package in mi distro (mandriva) besides you need python installed, script-fu is supported in the gimp core, that sounds like python being the extension, don't you think ? > Python scripts or C plugins can call your script NONINTERACTIVE or > INTERACTIVE It's simply that script-fu automatically fills in the run_mode, > and provides no way for you to change it. I think that is not strictly the case, because run_mode is not available inside the script, and in the pdb-browser is shown as the first argument so it will be no valid for python either, if the order of your example parameters is correct. Also the pdb-browser its a helper for the console (it launches from there), but entering commands in the console prompt like it shows, in many cases (when calling other scripts) you get errors. Bests, Pablo ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Run-Mode & Enums
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Pablo Yaggi wrote: > So, there will be no case of somebody passing the > > RUN-(NON)INTERACTIVE parameter to my script, will be ? > > If that is the case, why the pdb browser is showing as the > > first parameter to my scrypt the run-mode, isn't it confusing ? > > Shouldn't the pdb browser hide that for scripts-fu ? Script-fu has no special status, it's just an extension to gimp In fact, Gimp-Python has been the standard recommended language interface for quite a while now. Python scripts or C plugins can call your script NONINTERACTIVE or INTERACTIVE It's simply that script-fu automatically fills in the run_mode, and provides no way for you to change it. in Python, you can call interactively like this pdb.script_fu_something (image, drawable, (more parameters...), run_mode = 0) for example. David. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Run-Mode & Enums
So, there will be no case of somebody passing the RUN-(NON)INTERACTIVE parameter to my script, will be ? If that is the case, why the pdb browser is showing as the first parameter to my scrypt the run-mode, isn't it confusing ? Shouldn't the pdb browser hide that for scripts-fu ? About the enums, any ideas ? I want to upload 3 plugins I made but it is not nice to pass options as numeric mode selector, sorry to annoy with this ... Bests, Pablo On Thursday 18 December 2008 17:43:24 saulgo...@flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com wrote: > Quoting Pablo Yaggi : > > But I try to call my own script with the RUN-NONINTERACTIVE > > argument and it complains about the argument list, if i remove it, > > it works just fine, then when i use my script with the parameters > > i declared in the define everything goes perfect but adding > > the parameter run-mode as it gets listed in the browser help > > then it fails. > > A Script-fu called by another Script-fu can not be run interactively, > therefore a 'run-mode' of RUN-NONINTERACTIVE is assumed. > Unfortunately, this means that when writing your script, you must know > whether the PDB function is providing a "plug-in" or a "script-fu". > > > > ___ > Gimp-developer mailing list > Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Run-Mode & Enums
So a python script can can a script-fu interactively? Rob A> On 12/18/08, saulgo...@flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com wrote: > Quoting Pablo Yaggi : > >> But I try to call my own script with the RUN-NONINTERACTIVE >> argument and it complains about the argument list, if i remove it, >> it works just fine, then when i use my script with the parameters >> i declared in the define everything goes perfect but adding >> the parameter run-mode as it gets listed in the browser help >> then it fails. > > A Script-fu called by another Script-fu can not be run interactively, > therefore a 'run-mode' of RUN-NONINTERACTIVE is assumed. > Unfortunately, this means that when writing your script, you must know > whether the PDB function is providing a "plug-in" or a "script-fu". > > > > ___ > Gimp-developer mailing list > Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer > ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Run-Mode & Enums
Quoting Pablo Yaggi : > But I try to call my own script with the RUN-NONINTERACTIVE > argument and it complains about the argument list, if i remove it, > it works just fine, then when i use my script with the parameters > i declared in the define everything goes perfect but adding > the parameter run-mode as it gets listed in the browser help > then it fails. A Script-fu called by another Script-fu can not be run interactively, therefore a 'run-mode' of RUN-NONINTERACTIVE is assumed. Unfortunately, this means that when writing your script, you must know whether the PDB function is providing a "plug-in" or a "script-fu". ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Run-Mode & Enums
I just checked and you are correct that when calling your own scripts you must leave out that parameter for it to work even though the pdb browser shows it. -Rob A> On 12/18/08, Pablo Yaggi wrote: > But I try to call my own script with the RUN-NONINTERACTIVE > argument and it complains about the argument list, if i remove it, > it works just fine, then when i use my script with the parameters > i declared in the define everything goes perfect but adding > the parameter run-mode as it gets listed in the browser help > then it fails. > > > On Thursday 18 December 2008 12:19:31 Rob Antonishen wrote: >> If you specify RUN-NONINTERACTIVE it will run without the dialog box >> appearing. >> >> On 12/18/08, Pablo Yaggi wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > In the scrupt-fu browser under parameters most of the >> > scripts even my own show as first parameter: >> > >> > run-mode INT32 Interactive,non-interactive >> > >> > but it can not be specified in call nor used inside >> > the script as is was implicit declared. >> > Why is it there ? what does it mean ? >> > >> > About Enums, I still can't find a way to >> > declare de enums. I need to use SF-ENUM >> > and present the user a combo with a list >> > of modes, but I don't know how to define >> > the enums to include in SF-ENUM. >> > Also I'm learning what available functions >> > I have (like if, cond, etc) reading other scripts, >> > I couldn't find any documentation out there, >> > is there any ? >> > >> > Best Regards >> > Pablo > > ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Run-Mode & Enums
But I try to call my own script with the RUN-NONINTERACTIVE argument and it complains about the argument list, if i remove it, it works just fine, then when i use my script with the parameters i declared in the define everything goes perfect but adding the parameter run-mode as it gets listed in the browser help then it fails. On Thursday 18 December 2008 12:19:31 Rob Antonishen wrote: > If you specify RUN-NONINTERACTIVE it will run without the dialog box > appearing. > > On 12/18/08, Pablo Yaggi wrote: > > Hi, > > > > In the scrupt-fu browser under parameters most of the > > scripts even my own show as first parameter: > > > > run-mode INT32 Interactive,non-interactive > > > > but it can not be specified in call nor used inside > > the script as is was implicit declared. > > Why is it there ? what does it mean ? > > > > About Enums, I still can't find a way to > > declare de enums. I need to use SF-ENUM > > and present the user a combo with a list > > of modes, but I don't know how to define > > the enums to include in SF-ENUM. > > Also I'm learning what available functions > > I have (like if, cond, etc) reading other scripts, > > I couldn't find any documentation out there, > > is there any ? > > > > Best Regards > > Pablo ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Run-Mode & Enums
If you specify RUN-NONINTERACTIVE it will run without the dialog box appearing. On 12/18/08, Pablo Yaggi wrote: > Hi, > > In the scrupt-fu browser under parameters most of the > scripts even my own show as first parameter: > > run-mode INT32 Interactive,non-interactive > > but it can not be specified in call nor used inside > the script as is was implicit declared. > Why is it there ? what does it mean ? > > About Enums, I still can't find a way to > declare de enums. I need to use SF-ENUM > and present the user a combo with a list > of modes, but I don't know how to define > the enums to include in SF-ENUM. > Also I'm learning what available functions > I have (like if, cond, etc) reading other scripts, > I couldn't find any documentation out there, > is there any ? > > Best Regards > Pablo > > > ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
