Re: Request To Revert Curve Tool
After some offline discussion with Garry, we have jointly agreed to propose the following (my wording, don't blame him): The curves and levels tools should reset when called, and this behaviour should be reinstated before 1.2. The reasons are as follows: * consistency with all other colour tools. * both tools allow the user to save and load settings, so users can still apply the same effect to multiple images. * the reset button only resets a single channel, so manually resetting the tool is not as simple as it should be. * a common scheme for loading / saving / repeating settings would be useful, but should be implemented across all (appropriate) tools (and cannot be done for 1.2). Comments? (Dons asbestos suit, cowers and waits.) -- David Hodson -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- this night wounds time
Re: Request To Revert Curve Tool
"Garry R. Osgood" wrote: Here is what I propose: 1. There is now a "latency" bug where, when the curve tool is brought up with a non-identity transform, it is not immediately applied (when preview is on) - yes, this is indeed easily fixable. Although if we reset, it doesn't matter ... 2. Among the interactive tools, the curve tool has a now-activated and unique "persistence" feature that some people like and others don't. In the course of fixing 1., I propose adding a "Persist?" setting. Or perhaps OK / Apply / Cancel buttons? "Go back to last applied setting" button? Is this a reasonable course? Yes it is, but then we would want to change all the other tools to be consistent. I don't know about you, but I'm getting sick of waiting for 1.2! My suggestion is: reset the sucker, in line with all the other tools, and think about introducing a streamined and consistent method for saving "favourite" parameter settings for tools (and plugins!) in 1.3. Anything else would be running awfully close to adding new features, and we wouldn't want to do that. So, who decides? -- David Hodson -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- this night wounds time
Re: Request To Revert Curve Tool
"Garry R. Osgood" wrote: Well, after two weeks of trying the new behaviour, I find myself not liking it and request that the initial range transform from old to new just be the identity transform, as it was before. I'm not in front of my Linux box right now, and I was changing the levels and curves tools at the same time, so these comments may apply to either or both, I'm not sure ... The reason I made the change is that: * the tool (one of them, at least) _did_ actually keep the old settings, it just didn't display the parameters correctly; and * the reset button is right there, if you need it. I also figured that it's easier to reset if you don't want the old settings, than it is to find them again if you do. The bug report specifically talked about applying the same transform to multiple images, so at least one person uses that facility. -- David Hodson -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- this night wounds time
Re: Request To Revert Curve Tool
David Hodson wrote: The reason I made the change is that: * the tool (one of them, at least) _did_ actually keep the old settings, [The curve tool ], it just didn't display the parameters correctly; and * the reset button is right there, if you need it. True, almost -- never displayed nor applied parameters initially. A "feature-in-waiting" I think, I also figured that it's easier to reset if you don't want the old settings, than it is to find them again if you do. Also true. The bug report specifically talked about applying the same transform to multiple images, so at least one person uses that facility. This, I gather, is Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED], his first point in #33399. The change certain makes that workflow easier to perform (See http://bugs.gnome.org/db/33/33399.html). I certainly glad you've done the spadework (Thank you, again, David) and your interpretation of what to do is certainly reasonable, but I now find the tool less facile for my work, where I really *don't* like a setting that I've "disposed" of suddenly come back to life, and now have to explicitly reset it away. Here is what I propose: 1. There is now a "latency" bug where, when the curve tool is brought up with a non-identity transform, it is not immediately applied, so the setting of the tool is not reflected in the state of the image. That becomes the basis of a (minor, almost cosmetic, and easily corrected) bug report. The image should immediately align with whatever transform is being applied by any interactive, image_map-based tool (curves, levels, color balance, hue-saturation, brightness-contrast, threshold, posterize). 2. Among the interactive tools, the curve tool has a now-activated and unique "persistence" feature that some people like and others don't. In the course of fixing 1., I propose adding a "Persist?" setting. For those who prefer to start their search for a nice transform from the identity transform, they can disable this toggle and get the older behavior. Is this a reasonable course? Thank you all, for your time. Be good, be well Garry
