Re: [Gimp-docs] concepts

2011-02-26 Thread Julien Hardelin

 - When explaining a term, please add an indexterm
 indexterm
 primaryResolution/primary
 /indexterm
This will automatcally appear in the index chapter: last line in
 the html summary.


 I've been meaning to ask about this: There were 7 terms in concepts.xml
 but only one of them, channels, had an indexterm. So if I understand
 correctly, the reason is that those other terms are explained at length
 elsewhere, and THOSE places are linked to in the index, while there is
 no other reference to resolution in the help?


That is docbook rules: there is no varlistentry parent for indexterm but 
there is title. In varlistentry you must include indexterm within term 
tags.
Please see   http://docbook.org/tdg/en/html/indexterm.html
There are some inconsistencies in the index. It has to be reviewed.

 I made these changes in your xml file. Do you want I push your changes?


 Sure.

Done
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp-help-2/

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Re: [Gimp-docs] concepts

2011-02-25 Thread Michael Grosberg
2011/2/23 Julien Hardelin jm.h...@wanadoo.fr

 Hi Michael,

 OK for substance.

 Some remarks about form:

 - TAB are set to 2 spaces.

 - Lines are less than 80 characters and spaces.


OK, figured out how to do those with Notepad++.



 - When explaining a term, please add an indexterm
indexterm
  primaryResolution/primary
/indexterm
   This will automatcally appear in the index chapter: last line in
 the html summary.


I've been meaning to ask about this: There were 7 terms in concepts.xml but
only one of them, channels, had an indexterm. So if I understand correctly,
the reason is that those other terms are explained at length elsewhere, and
THOSE places are linked to in the index, while there is no other reference
to resolution in the help?


 - I noticed 2 typos: reslution and noticable. You probably have a
 spelling command in your editor.


Yup. I guess I'm so used to check-as-you-type spellcheckers I haven't
thought of runing a spell check.


  what
  is the significance of adding acronym and quote tags? what are they
  for? they seem to have no influence on the final output.
 

 For acronym, I don't know. But quote is important for
 internationalization. With quoteHello/quote, I automatically get the
 French quotes in French html (« Hello ») with indivisible spaces!

 I made these changes in your xml file. Do you want I push your changes?


Sure.
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Re: [Gimp-docs] concepts

2011-02-23 Thread Ulf-D. Ehlert
Kolbjørn Stuestøl (Wednesday, 23. February 2011)
 BTW: For some reasons the guote tag does not work in Norwegian.
 quoteHello/quote is written as Hello instead of «Hello». (We
 are using the same quotes as in French).

This is a DocBook bug, IMHO. Try to change the quote chars manually 
(in /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.75.2/common/nn.xml or 
wherever your language file is) to be sure.

Bye,
Ulf

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Re: [Gimp-docs] concepts

2011-02-23 Thread Ulf-D. Ehlert
Michael Grosberg (Tuesday, 22. February 2011)
 what is the significance of adding acronym and quote tags?
 what are they for? they seem to have no influence on the final
 output.

quote tags are important to set the correct quotation chars.

acronym tags are used to convert the enclosed text to capital 
letters, AFAIK (I never did any tests), and add
acronym class=acronym.../acronym
to the HTML output, which may be used in CSS stylesheets.
So right now they are not really important -- it's good style and 
correct if you use them, but nothing happens if you forget it.

 Lastly, how important is the way these files are indented? I always
 use tabs, and any editor I'm familiar with uses tabs to indent
 lines, while these files seem to use spaces. Is is important to
 indent the XML in this way?

By convention we use two spaces. Mixing tabs and spaces will make the 
XML files less readable, especially if someone uses a different 
editor.

Bye,
Ulf

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Re: [Gimp-docs] concepts

2011-02-23 Thread Kolbjørn Stuestøl
Den 23.02.2011 13:32, skreiv Ulf-D. Ehlert:
 Kolbjørn Stuestøl (Wednesday, 23. February 2011)
 BTW: For some reasons theguote  tag does not work in Norwegian.
 quoteHello/quote  is written as Hello instead of «Hello». (We
 are using the same quotes as in French).
 This is a DocBook bug, IMHO. Try to change the quote chars manually
 (in /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.75.2/common/nn.xml or
 wherever your language file is) to be sure.

 Bye,
 Ulf
The Windows keyboard do not has the «» quote signs by default. Linux has.
I'll give your suggestion a try. Until now I have deleted the quote 
tag and entered the signs by hand in my translated po files. (Not in the 
original xml files).
Thank you, Ulf.
Kolbjoern

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[Gimp-docs] concepts

2011-02-22 Thread Michael Grosberg
So, in the last couple of weeks I tried to look up material about Docbook.
I'm still not sure about how you people edit the help files, and I'd
obviously prefer a more wysiwg way of doing things, but for now I'll settle
for XML-aware editors. I downloaded the repository to my Linux volume but
I'm more comfortable working on Windows so I'm using Notepad++ for editing
and XMLnotepad to validate the XML.
Docbook seems straightforward enough but I do have some questions: what is
the significance of adding acronym and quote tags? what are they for?
they seem to have no influence on the final output.

Anyway here is my first change: I took the concepts page and added a
much-needed Resolution section. I know from experience this is a term that
many beginners find difficult to understand, especially when it comes to
understanding the resolution property of files coming from digital cameras.
I also removed the comparison of a multi-layer image to a book: it is a
confusing metaphor as it is nothing like a book in reality, so I changed it
to a stack of transparent sheets of paper.

Lastly, how important is the way these files are indented? I always use
tabs, and any editor I'm familiar with uses tabs to indent lines, while
these files seem to use spaces. Is is important to indent the XML in this
way?

regards
Michael
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE sect1 PUBLIC -//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.3//EN
   http://www.docbook.org/xml/4.3/docbookx.dtd;
!-- section history:
  2009-03-20 j.h: fixed bug #557343
  2008-06-03 prokoudine: yet another shot at Russian content
  2007-02-27 prokoudine: fixes to Russian translation
  2007-02-27 lexa: reorganized concepts
  2006-05-02 Dust: added Korean translation
  2006-02-27 kolbjørn: added norwegian
  2006-01-07 HdJ: Added quote and acronym tags, added english and dutch
 version of layers explanation
  2005-12-18 Lexa: reviewed and added de translation
--
sect1 xmlns:xi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XInclude; id=gimp-concepts-basic
  titleBasic Concepts/title

  indexterm
primaryConcepts/primary
  /indexterm

  figure
titleWilber, the GIMP mascot/title
mediaobject
  imageobject
imagedata format=PNG fileref=images/using/wilber.png /
  /imageobject
  caption
para
  The Wilber_Construction_Kit (in src/images/) allows you to give the
  mascot a different appearance. It is the work of Tuomas Kuosmanen
  (tigertATgimp.org).
/para
  /caption
/mediaobject
  /figure
  para
This section provides a brief introduction to the basic concepts and
terminology used in acronymGIMP/acronym. The concepts presented here
are explained in
much greater depth elsewhere. With a few exceptions, we have avoided
cluttering this section with a lot of links and cross-references:
everything mentioned here is so high-level that you can easily
locate it in the index.
  /para
  variablelist
varlistentry
  termImages/term
  listitem
para
			 Images are the basic entities used by acronymGIMP/acronym. 
			Roughly speaking, an quoteimage/quote corresponds to a single file, 
			such as a TIFF or JPEG file. You can also think of an image as 
			corresponding to a single display window (although in truth it is 
			possible to have multiple windows all displaying the same image). It is 
			not possible to have a single window display more than one image, 
			though, or for an image to have no window displaying it. 
/para
para
			A acronymGIMP/acronym image may be quite a complicated thing. 
			Instead of thinking of it as a sheet of paper with a 
			picture on it, think of it as more like a stack of sheets, called 
			quotelayers/quote. In addition to a stack of layers, a 
			acronymGIMP/acronym image may contain a selection mask, a set of 
			channels, and a set of paths. In fact, acronymGIMP/acronym provides 
			a mechanism for attaching arbitrary pieces of data, called 
			quoteparasites/quote, to an image. 
/para
para
  In acronymGIMP/acronym, it is possible to have many images open
  at the same time. Although large images may use many megabytes of
  memory, acronymGIMP/acronym uses a sophisticated
  tile-based memory management system that allows
  acronymGIMP/acronym to handle very large images gracefully.
  There are limits, however, and having more memory available
  may improve system performance.
/para
  /listitem
/varlistentry
varlistentry
  termLayers/term
  listitem
para
		 If a simple image can be compared to a single sheet of paper, an image 
		with layers is likened to a sheaf of transparent papers stacked one on 
		top of the other. You can draw on each paper, but still see the contant 
		of the other sheets through the transparent areas. You can also move one 
		sheet in relation to the others. 
		Sophisticated