[Gimp-docs] Certificate error on list web site

2010-08-30 Thread David
Web access to the list admin on https://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs is currently showing a certificate error (expired cert) - browsers advise in draconian terms not to view the site. Just thought someone should be told... David

[Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-08-30 Thread David
.) I can share further specific points if there is interest This is me trying to help, not moan ;) - I've written help for another open source project, and have had around a million hits on those pages. David ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs

Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-08-31 Thread David
by way of honing. David ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs

Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-09-01 Thread David
I wonder if using a wiki would help? On second thoughts, I think not - there is a huge amount of content (500+ pages), so the work would be in layout, rather than authoring. I guess it would have to be a page by page thing, rather than just a change of css. I *am* finding navigation a

Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-09-01 Thread David
, I hope this is helpful and not just a pain ;) David ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs

Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-09-02 Thread David
This really, really is not a basic concept. Really... no-one who needs to know basic concepts wants to know that ;). David ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs

Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-09-02 Thread David
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Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-09-02 Thread David
On 02/09/2010 20:11, Sven Neumann wrote: You should try to play well with packagers and distributions and make releases frequently so that users can pick up updates easily. It is not our job to educate them how to install the manual from source. And I consider the generated HTML the source.

Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-09-05 Thread David
Another specific issue: == 13.2. Creating a Basic Shape 1.Drawing shapes is not the main purpose for using GIMP. However, you may create shapes by either painting them using the technique described in Figure 7.35, “A new image” or... == I suggest this would be better as:

Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-09-05 Thread David
On 05/09/2010 11:17, Hugh Loebner wrote: Why not link to Inkscape, an open source drawing program? Because this part of the manual is about drawing shapes in GIMP (and only in GIMP). People who read a manual generally do not want to read it. They generally want to be using the application,

Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-09-05 Thread David
, but without an overall structure? I'm not suggesting that it's merely a problem solver - clearly people who come to the program for the first time have to read the manual to learn how the program works - but you can bet on it that they'll stop reading as soon as they can. David

Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-09-08 Thread David
You are at the wrong mailing-list though. If you want to suggest changes to www.gimp.org then you should suggest this on the gimp-web list. OK - thank you, Sven, I've raised it there. I think it was on this (doc) list originally because the help identifies the problem (missing help files)

[Gimp-docs] 2.2.3. Selection masks - revision needed

2010-10-16 Thread David
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[Gimp-docs] 2.1.3. Layer masks

2010-10-17 Thread David
2.1.3. Layer masks A layer mask has the same size and same pixel number as the layer to which it is attached. should be A layer mask has the same size and same number of pixels... Pixels are not numbered. A tiny improvement if anyone thinks it worthwhile. D

Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-10-28 Thread David
).I'd prefer it split - Section 8: Layers, and then a new section Section 9: Text. Of course everything below then has to be renumbered David ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-11-02 Thread David
Hi Ulf for Layers (albeit currently called 'Combining Images'), for Selections (called 'Painting with GIMP'), No, there's no Selections section called Painting with GIMP: II.7.1+2 (Selection and Creating and Using Selections) are subsections of II.7 (Painting with GIMP). OK - but what I

Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-11-05 Thread David
sections. You'll probably find errors/omissions - but I thought it might be good to share, warts and all. What do you think? Practical or not? Improved or not? David ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU

Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-11-06 Thread David
@David: BTW, I think you did never mention: are you working on cloned copy of the git repository, i.e. on the source files? I do have a cloned copy, and have submitted one minor change from it. However the webpages at http://drking.webstarts.com/index.html are a quick mock-up using (rather

Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-11-06 Thread David
@Ulf Selections as sub-section of Painting is not too absurd IMHO. Remember that you can select and copy/cut to create a new brush (see 7.9.2. Creating a brush quickly). Sorry - should have replied to this. If I'm right that the contents page is too long, then a new user needs to be able to

Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-11-09 Thread David
:). And if people could not find what they wanted from that, we'd know the structure was wrong... David ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs

Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-11-11 Thread David
Hi Roman IMHO this should be discussed in a new thread, but anyway. Up to you - but it results from my experience as a new user... Perhaps it would be a good idea to split up the documentation into two books: the first would be a function reference and the second a more helpful tutorial

Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-11-16 Thread David
Thanks Ulf, Roman (1) Compact layout. This is mostly a matter of the chosen style(sheet): We (you?) could create an alternate stylesheet , e.g. compact.css Some of it can be done by stylesheet - for example perhaps, the empty space around figures. But I suspect in practice a lot of what I'd

Re: [Gimp-docs] setting up for docbook etc

2010-12-10 Thread David
future. I'm no less busy than anyone else here ;). So regretably my ability to contribute is on hold. I am finding GIMP a very useful tool though. Thanks for your help. David ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https

Re: [Gimp-docs] setting up for docbook etc

2010-12-15 Thread David
Hi Ulf Hmm, both worked for me. Using Makefile.GNU complains about missing dep files (xml/*/.deps.mk), but you can ignore these messages. Which error messages did you get? Can't remember exactly. One was from xslt, moaning it couldn't find something. To solve it, I'd have to dig into the