Re: [Gimp-user] [OT] Some other app (was: gimp in one window)

2004-09-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Neither window managers nor applications have any FSCKING business
 screwing with window depth. If some such change gets made to the GIMP,
 I certainly hope it's optional.

I think you misunderstood what we are talking about here. Of course it
is the job of the window manager to deal with the z-order of windows.
After all it is a window manager. So if an application gives the
window manager the hint that a certain window should be treated
special (for example kept above another window or even above all
windows of the same application), then the window manager should
respect that hint. Of course the user can still configure his/her
window manager to ignore those hints or he/she could install a window
manager that ignores those hints by default. But it is certainly the
window managers business.

Some people seem to argue though that the application should try to
force a certain behaviour on the window manager. That is definitely
not a good idea. The application should give the window manager enough
information to do a good job but it should let the window manager
manage the windows.

BTW, the changes that you refer to have all been made already. Due to
the fact that the interpretation of the spec varies between window
managers, we have added some preference options to control what hints
are set. I would prefer though if the EWMH spec would have a window
type that would fit for the GIMP toolbox and dock windows. At the
moment there's UTILITY which comes closest. But have a look yourself:

http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/wm-spec/wm-spec-1.2.html#id2503768

It may make sense to make the dock windows transient for the toolbox.
Would probably be worth a try.


Sven
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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker

2004-09-18 Thread rkaa
I tried to build 2.1.4 and kind of succeeded, but it couldn't open files. I
could barely start it, actually. THere was dozens of error messages during
startup from the local dir about libgimpwidgets-2.0-104 couldn't be located.
And even with a full install that's right: It's not on disk. Nor did the
installation routine relink gimp to the new binary. I finally gave up and
deleted the whole thing - it could only open xfc files, no plugins worked,
and the filepicker has become an unusable mess... What on earth happened to the
it? I can't use it anymore :(((

There is nowhere to paste in the URLs (filepath/name). I used to browse my
galleries in mozilla, and then paste the url/filepath+name into the gimp
filepicker. Now I instead have to click myself dizzy to get anywhere. I can't
figure out where i can paste/write in the new filepicker. And to complicate
things further: There is no indication what is folders and what is files when i
run under KDE.

I tested it under Gnome too: There I can see icons at least. But I can't use
Gnome for other reasons. I guess it all means that the Gimp has changed from a
Gtk app to a Gnome app. This is very sad as it means 2.1.* is made extremely
hard to use under KDE. PLEASE change the filepicker back to the old one?!


Unhappy Gimp-user
R.K.Aa.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker

2004-09-18 Thread Owen Cook

On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I tried to build 2.1.4 and kind of succeeded, but it couldn't open files. I
 could barely start it, actually. THere was dozens of error messages during
 startup from the local dir about libgimpwidgets-2.0-104 couldn't be located.


You do not give many clues!

You are aware that 2.1.4 is a development version, and the README has
words to the effect All hell may break loose when installing this
program?

Did you build it in a different prefix to your Gimp-2.0.4. If you didn't,
then for sure all hell will break loose.


Owen

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[Gimp-user] adding fonts to the gimp

2004-09-18 Thread Maria Yousaf
Hi everyone,

   I'm having some difficulty adding fonts to the GIMP.  I'm using GIMP version 2.0.4 
and the fonts that I want to add were originally MAC fonts.  They were converted to 
.afm and .pfa.  These fonts show up when I use an application like OpenOffice but
they do not appear in my font list in the GIMP.  Is there anything special I
need to do to add these fonts to the gimp?

Cheers,
Maria
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Re: [Gimp-user] adding fonts to the gimp

2004-09-18 Thread Maria Yousaf
 Hi everyone,
 
I'm having some difficulty adding fonts to the GIMP.  I'm using GIMP version 
 2.0.4 
 and the fonts that I want to add were originally MAC fonts.  They were converted to 
 .afm and .pfa.  These fonts show up when I use an application like OpenOffice but
 they do not appear in my font list in the GIMP.  Is there anything special I
 need to do to add these fonts to the gimp?

Looks like I solved my own problem.  I seem to recall I restarted the GIMP and
the fonts didn't show up.  I just hit the refresh to default values button in
the font tool dialog and oddly enough, the fonts now appear. 
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Re: [Gimp-user] [OT] Some other app (was: gimp in one window)

2004-09-18 Thread Alan Horkan

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004, GSR - FR wrote:

 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 22:01:59 +0200
 From: GSR - FR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Gimp-user] [OT] Some other app (was: gimp in one window)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-09-17 at 2307.46 +0200):
  information. my question is: is it possible to have gimp in one window? like
  in other graphic programs - not to mention photoshop or photo-paint. i found

 Now that you raise the issue, I wonder what is going in in the
 following image http://www.deviantart.com/view/8257589/.

 New method?
 Optional setting? It reminds me of the same app in MacOS (where I
 always found it as a bunch of windows), but it is the first time I see
 that in MSWindows version.

If I understand your comments correctly you seem to think that this
version of Adobe Photoshop is somehow differnt because the windows
appear to be seperate.

What this screenshot shows is not anything different from what photoshop
has been in the past, however it does look a little different because the
main window has been resized (the toolbox and palettes have stayed where
they normally are, only now they happen to fall outside the main window)
and the image window is maximized to fit the main window but it is still a
window inside a window (note the min/max/close window icons barely
visible on the top right).

It is difficult to describe it clearly but this layout of photoshop is
nothing new, it is more optional settings as you said.


Sincerely

Alan Horkan

http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/
I love Inkscape  http://inkscape.org
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