[Gimp-user] can't install GIMP

2006-02-11 Thread David Tudor



Dear GIMP users,
I would like to join your ranks, but cannot get the GIMP to install
properly, apparently.
I am running Windows XP professional, download the automatic installer,
run it without problems, but when time comes to open the GIMP, I get the
message:
Pango-ERROR**:file shape.c:line 75 (pango_shape):assertion failed:
(glyphs - num_glyphs 0) aborting...
Can anyone help me?
Thanks,
David

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[Gimp-user] gimp 2.3 for win

2006-02-11 Thread Roger D Vargas

IOs there some binary package of 2.3 for windows?

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp 2.3 for win

2006-02-11 Thread Axel Wernicke

Am 11.02.2006 um 15:06 schrieb Roger D Vargas:


IOs there some binary package of 2.3 for windows?

yes there is.



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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp 2.3 for win

2006-02-11 Thread Axel Wernicke


Am 11.02.2006 um 15:06 schrieb Roger D Vargas:


IOs there some binary package of 2.3 for windows?


just in case you wanted to know *where* to find the binary packages,  
have a look at http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php? 
group_id=121075


Greetings,

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp 2.3 for win

2006-02-11 Thread Michael Schumacher
Axel Wernicke wrote:
 
 Am 11.02.2006 um 15:06 schrieb Roger D Vargas:
 
 IOs there some binary package of 2.3 for windows?
 
 just in case you wanted to know *where* to find the binary packages,
 have a look at http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=121075

BTW, please don't link to the files directly. I prefer to tell people
that it is on the project page at http://gimp-win.sf.net - and let them
figure out by them self from there. The link to the downloads overview
above is ok; if you want to provide a little more overview of the
project (and an url that can be remembered more easily) you could also
link to http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimp-win/

This is a first step to make sure that people know that this is not
intended for everyone - a little effort to get it will sort out those
who just want to use GIMP and not bother with testing a development release.


HTH,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP

2006-02-11 Thread Julian Oliver
..on Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 09:14:39AM -0500, Scott wrote:
 
 The MacBook Pro will out perform in power save mode!
 

hmm, i wouldn't believe everything Steve tells you.. you know what he's
like ;)

let's just hope Apple doesn't deliberately throttle OSX quite as much this time 
to
boost hardware sales. memory management in OSX Tiger seems really poor. 
this seems to explain some of it..

http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2436p=2

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Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP

2006-02-11 Thread Axel Wernicke


Am 11.02.2006 um 15:14 schrieb Scott:



Am 11.02.2006 um 05:43 schrieb Scott:
recently there was the same problem with mmx.  if you run ./ 
configure

--help it will tell you how to build without this sse stuff.
these are
some optimizations that were included by some guy from Sun and
seem to
be unmaintained lately.


I ran it with --disable-mmx, now ld does not support the -rpath
switch on
OS X. And there does not seem to be an option to disable it in the
configure, at least that I found .


Thats the one I got on PPC since 2.3.6! Folks at IRC told me that
this would be an issue outside of GIMP, so I gave up for a while :(


My research indicates this is an issue with GIMP and not something  
outside
of it. I came across another program with this issue that the  
programmer

fixed after the users created enough noise.

I unfortunately forgot the url, but one of the users went round and  
round
with the developer because originally he was not going to fix it.  
He used
the it is an issue outside also, for which the users started  
calling him

arrogant for having that mentality.

I am sure I will eventually fix GIMP or come up with a work around, at
which point I will forward the info on for your consumption.


so, may be we should kick this issue to GIMP-dev and ask for help.
May be even a bug should filed for this?

Hopefully somebody can bring some light into this.

!lexA



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Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP

2006-02-11 Thread Michael Schumacher
Scott wrote:

 sounds like outperfoming my iBook 800 will be an easy job for the
 MacBook Pro :)
 
 The MacBook Pro will out perform in power save mode!

So it is another device that just switches on the power save LED and
continues to consume the same amount of power? :)


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Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP

2006-02-11 Thread Carol Spears
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:43:55PM -0500, Scott wrote:
  On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 02:27:42PM -0500, Scott wrote:
 
  gimp-composite-sse.c: In function
  'gimp_composite_scale_rgba8_rgba8_rgba8_sse':
  gimp-composite-sse.c:786: error: PIC register '%ebx' clobbered in 'asm'
  make[3]: *** [libcompositesse_a-gimp-composite-sse.o] Error 1
  make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
  make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
  make: *** [all] Error 2
 
  -
 
  I then can seem to run a make install, but there is no gimp executable.
  Only gimp-remote seems to get installed. Can someone perhaps lead me in
  the right direction with this?
 
  recently there was the same problem with mmx.  if you run ./configure
  --help it will tell you how to build without this sse stuff.  these are
  some optimizations that were included by some guy from Sun and seem to
  be unmaintained lately.
 
 I ran it with --disable-mmx, now ld does not support the -rpath switch on
 OS X. And there does not seem to be an option to disable it in the
 configure, at least that I found .
 
i took a few seconds and ran ./autogen.sh --help and i found an option
to --enable-sseenable SSE support (default=auto)

this is what the error message complained about.  the error message did
not complain about mmx although, i think that disabling it should not
have messed up -rpath.  

i am sorry if using mmx as a suggestion to look for sse configuration
options was confusing.

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP

2006-02-11 Thread Axel Wernicke


Am 11.02.2006 um 19:35 schrieb Carol Spears:


On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:43:55PM -0500, Scott wrote:


I ran it with --disable-mmx, now ld does not support the -rpath  
switch on

OS X. And there does not seem to be an option to disable it in the
configure, at least that I found .


i took a few seconds and ran ./autogen.sh --help and i found an option
to --enable-sseenable SSE support (default=auto)

this is what the error message complained about.  the error message  
did

not complain about mmx although, i think that disabling it should not
have messed up -rpath.

i am sorry if using mmx as a suggestion to look for sse configuration
options was confusing.

carol


indeed the -rpath problem is completely not related to the SSE issue.  
I'm on PPC ( no SSE at all) and have the -rpath issue since GIMP 2.3.6


in hope for help

lexA



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Re: [Gimp-user] Default settings for scaling images: high quality?

2006-02-11 Thread Carol Spears
hi,

the goal was edited from this email thread, so i am putting it back 
here.  back when the berkeley computers also shared an archive of the
mail list, emails like this were useful to people.  with the strong
desire that this might one day be the case again, we can all make sure
that the emails that are archived make some sense. (me included!) 

the original question was how to set the default action of the
interpolation method used by gimp for transforming images.

On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 08:54:42AM +0100, RalfGesellensetter wrote:
 Am Freitag, 10. Februar 2006 20:13 schrieben Sie:
  FilePreferencesTool options
 
 thank you, this works ;)
 is there a way to use this setting system wide (all users)?
 any hints on how to associate gimp for a specific file type (suffix) likewise 
 system wide (mimetypes for KDE 3.3), BTW?
 
make it the default preference for new users by editing the gimprc that
user_install starts with.  if you have gimptool (usually included with
libgimp-dev) gimptool --sysconfdir should tell you where this is
located.  edit this line:

# (interpolation-type linear) 
to
(interpolation-type bicubic)

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP

2006-02-11 Thread Carol Spears
On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 07:42:12AM +0100, Axel Wernicke wrote:
 
 Am 11.02.2006 um 00:41 schrieb Carol Spears:
 could you assume for a moment that i was being nice and friendly?
 
 after a while, when people suggest that you are not being nice and not
 being friendly when you are, you start to wonder if the person
 suggesting this is being friendly and is being nice.
 
 do people run apple because it is really fast?  i am sorry if i got  
 this
 wrong.  i thought they run apple because the products are so sealed up
 and lovely to look at and the fellow users are so united in thinking.
 the only apple products i have had opportunity to work with are really
 slow or in need of a huge network of other apples in which to be  
 able to
 function on.
 
 if anyone were to suggest that i am using my computer because speed is
 not an issue, i would probably have to agree.
 
 
 =:)
 
actually, i have been corrected on a few things.  a hacker voluntarily
read apple advertising to me.  i guess that ppc was 4times faster than
intel and now this new thing is 4times faster than ppc.  i have no idea
how to do the maths with this new information.  how long before this
fine boxen are overtaking the speed of light itself?

carol


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Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP

2006-02-11 Thread Scott
 On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:43:55PM -0500, Scott wrote:
  On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 02:27:42PM -0500, Scott wrote:
 
  gimp-composite-sse.c: In function
  'gimp_composite_scale_rgba8_rgba8_rgba8_sse':
  gimp-composite-sse.c:786: error: PIC register '%ebx' clobbered in
 'asm'
  make[3]: *** [libcompositesse_a-gimp-composite-sse.o] Error 1
  make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
  make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
  make: *** [all] Error 2
 
  -
 
  I then can seem to run a make install, but there is no gimp
 executable.
  Only gimp-remote seems to get installed. Can someone perhaps lead me
 in
  the right direction with this?
 
  recently there was the same problem with mmx.  if you run ./configure
  --help it will tell you how to build without this sse stuff.  these
 are
  some optimizations that were included by some guy from Sun and seem
 to
  be unmaintained lately.

 I ran it with --disable-mmx, now ld does not support the -rpath switch
 on
 OS X. And there does not seem to be an option to disable it in the
 configure, at least that I found .

 i took a few seconds and ran ./autogen.sh --help and i found an option
 to --enable-sseenable SSE support (default=auto)

 this is what the error message complained about.  the error message did
 not complain about mmx although, i think that disabling it should not
 have messed up -rpath.

 i am sorry if using mmx as a suggestion to look for sse configuration
 options was confusing.

Actually I have tried it three ways, --disable-mmx, disable-sse, and
disable-mmx --disable-sse. I get no errors, other than rpath, by only
disabling the mmx verses the sse. The rpath error is because ld on Mac OSX
apparently does not support the -rpath option.

Thanks!
Scott

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Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP

2006-02-11 Thread Scott
 On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 07:42:12AM +0100, Axel Wernicke wrote:

 Am 11.02.2006 um 00:41 schrieb Carol Spears:
 could you assume for a moment that i was being nice and friendly?
 
 after a while, when people suggest that you are not being nice and not
 being friendly when you are, you start to wonder if the person
 suggesting this is being friendly and is being nice.
 
 do people run apple because it is really fast?  i am sorry if i got
 this
 wrong.  i thought they run apple because the products are so sealed up
 and lovely to look at and the fellow users are so united in thinking.
 the only apple products i have had opportunity to work with are really
 slow or in need of a huge network of other apples in which to be
 able to
 function on.
 
 if anyone were to suggest that i am using my computer because speed is
 not an issue, i would probably have to agree.
 

 =:)

 actually, i have been corrected on a few things.  a hacker voluntarily
 read apple advertising to me.  i guess that ppc was 4times faster than
 intel and now this new thing is 4times faster than ppc.  i have no idea
 how to do the maths with this new information.  how long before this
 fine boxen are overtaking the speed of light itself?

Actually the Intel version are faster IF your application is not running
in emulation mode. That being said, there are not a lot of applications
that are nativly supporting the Intel chip. Which is the primary reason I
want to compile GIMP.

I will say this IMac is faster then my P4 3ghz Suse Linux box at work when
I am using applications that are native.

4x faster is unrealistic, I would say maybe 1.5 - 2x's faster then the G5.

 carol


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Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP

2006-02-11 Thread Scott

 Am 11.02.2006 um 05:43 schrieb Scott:
 recently there was the same problem with mmx.  if you run ./configure
 --help it will tell you how to build without this sse stuff.
 these are
 some optimizations that were included by some guy from Sun and
 seem to
 be unmaintained lately.

 I ran it with --disable-mmx, now ld does not support the -rpath
 switch on
 OS X. And there does not seem to be an option to disable it in the
 configure, at least that I found .

 Thats the one I got on PPC since 2.3.6! Folks at IRC told me that
 this would be an issue outside of GIMP, so I gave up for a while :(

You are right.. I downloaded 2.3.5 and it compiles and installs just fine
using the --disable-mmx option. So there was a major change in 2.3.6 that
broke GIMP for OS X I guess..

Scott

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