Re: [Gimp-user] X11
Hi, the answer is: never, because not GIMP is bound in no way to X11, but to the GTK. A stable GTK is unfortunately for Apples OS X only for an X11 backend available right now. But may be you can help the GTK project to finish their work on a native backend for OS X and help this to free GIMP from the X11 slavery on Apple OS X. Thank you for listening. lexA Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 07:13:30 + Von: Orlando Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU CC: Betreff: [Gimp-user] X11 Cheers When will GIMP (Mac version) release itself from X11? Orlando Figueiredo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OrlandoFigueiredo.com -- Feel free - 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX TopMail testen: www.gmx.net/de/go/mailfooter/topmail-out ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] X11
Thanks for helping me The problem is that I am not a computer expert just a Mac user that can not copy images from another program to GIMP. But yes... I will be glad in helping the GTK project. I just do not know how. Orlando Figueiredo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OrlandoFigueiredo.com On Feb 21, 2007, at 8:05AM, Axel Wernicke wrote: Hi, the answer is: never, because not GIMP is bound in no way to X11, but to the GTK. A stable GTK is unfortunately for Apples OS X only for an X11 backend available right now. But may be you can help the GTK project to finish their work on a native backend for OS X and help this to free GIMP from the X11 slavery on Apple OS X. Thank you for listening. lexA Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 07:13:30 + Von: Orlando Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU CC: Betreff: [Gimp-user] X11 Cheers When will GIMP (Mac version) release itself from X11? Orlando Figueiredo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OrlandoFigueiredo.com -- Feel free - 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX TopMail testen: www.gmx.net/de/go/mailfooter/topmail-out ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Yet X11
It's me again. Don't want to be boring... OpenOffice was also runing on Mac under X11 but a group of computer geeks made NeoOffice. It is exactly a OOo but free from X11. Isn't it possible to do the same with GIMP. Sorry if this is a very stupid questions, but as I've said I am not a computer technician. Just a user. Thanks for helping me. Orlando Figueiredo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OrlandoFigueiredo.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Pan Tool keyboard shortcut
Gimp Users, So far as I can tell from looking at online help and experimentation with the interface, the only way to access the pan tool is to use the middle mouse button. I have a pen tablet, and the button that acts as a middle mouse button is rather uncomfortable to use. I'd like to access it with a keyboard shortcut, but the pan tool isn't listed among any existing keyboard shortcuts, nor is it listed in the commands available in Preferences - Interface - Configure Keyboard Shortcuts. How can I get keyboard access to the pan tool? -- Dave M G Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft Kernel 2.6.17.7 Pentium D Dual Core Processor PHP 5, MySQL 5, Apache 2 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Anti-aliasing off from selecting with path
GIMP Users, If I create a region with the path tool, and then use the path to create a selection, it seems to be anti-aliased by default. I've turned off anti-aliasing in the tool options for all the selection tools - rectangular, circular, and magic wand - and yet converting from a path to a selection remains anti-aliased. Is there a way to get the anti-aliasing to turn off when making selections by this method? My main goal is to be able to select regions by clicking point by point and having straight lines between them. So far as I know, in GIMP this is accomplished by using the path tool and then converting to a selection. However, considering the above issue, if there's another way to create a selection by clicking a series of points, and have it not anti-aliased, that would be cool too. -- Dave M G Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft Kernel 2.6.17.7 Pentium D Dual Core Processor PHP 5, MySQL 5, Apache 2 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] X11
On 2/21/07, Orlando Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for helping me The problem is that I am not a computer expert just a Mac user that can not copy images from another program to GIMP. But yes... I will be glad in helping the GTK project. I just do not know how. Orlando Figueiredo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OrlandoFigueiredo.com On Feb 21, 2007, at 8:05AM, Axel Wernicke wrote: Hi, the answer is: never, because not GIMP is bound in no way to X11, but to the GTK. A stable GTK is unfortunately for Apples OS X only for an X11 backend available right now. But may be you can help the GTK project to finish their work on a native backend for OS X and help this to free GIMP from the X11 slavery on Apple OS X. Thank you for listening. lexA X11.app is a bit cumbersome, and only available on the Mac install CD. That being said, it's better than nothing at this point. -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Pan Tool keyboard shortcut
On 2/21/07, Dave M G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gimp Users, So far as I can tell from looking at online help and experimentation with the interface, the only way to access the pan tool is to use the middle mouse button. I have a pen tablet, and the button that acts as a middle mouse button is rather uncomfortable to use. I'd like to access it with a keyboard shortcut, but the pan tool isn't listed among any existing keyboard shortcuts, nor is it listed in the commands available in Preferences - Interface - Configure Keyboard Shortcuts. How can I get keyboard access to the pan tool? View--Navigate Window opens up a dialog box, in which you can use your arrow keys to pan around. -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] X11
No doubt that X11 is better then nothing. But GIMP deserves better then X11. Don't you think so? Thanks for helping me. Orlando Figueiredo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OrlandoFigueiredo.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] X11
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [Orlando Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ Wed, 21 Feb 2007 09:51:06 +] No doubt that X11 is better then nothing. But GIMP deserves better then X11. Don't you think so? Thanks for helping me. Well... Not meant to be offending, but what on earth are you talking about? :) Cheers, Kris - -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality. (Hundertwasser) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF3BdGcxBAPOA1m6wRApP7AKCfT0e5Pjjw6NRANkacmtdsp0KS4QCfafnR +U+seYG2NhxxP80h9QTPmQo= =E/Om -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] X11
On 2/21/07, Orlando Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No doubt that X11 is better then nothing. But GIMP deserves better then X11. Don't you think so? Thanks for helping me. I don't really see what the problem is with using X11.app (other than GIMP for Mac is a version or two behind). -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Pan Tool keyboard shortcut
Anthony, Thank you for your response. How can I get keyboard access to the pan tool? View--Navigate Window opens up a dialog box, in which you can use your arrow keys to pan around. That does allow one to move around an image, but it's not the same as having a keyboard shortcut. It requires moving away from the working area and back again. The arrow keys seem to only be effective if the mouse is in the navigator window. -- Dave M G Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft Kernel 2.6.17.7 Pentium D Dual Core Processor PHP 5, MySQL 5, Apache 2 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Pan Tool keyboard shortcut
The development version uses space for panning. It will be in 2.4 release. How can I get keyboard access to the pan tool? View--Navigate Window opens up a dialog box, in which you can use your arrow keys to pan around. -- With respect Alexander Rabtchevich ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Pan Tool keyboard shortcut
On Wednesday 21 February 2007 07:25, Dave M G wrote: Anthony, Thank you for your response. How can I get keyboard access to the pan tool? View--Navigate Window opens up a dialog box, in which you can use your arrow keys to pan around. That does allow one to move around an image, but it's not the same as having a keyboard shortcut. It requires moving away from the working area and back again. The arrow keys seem to only be effective if the mouse is in the navigator window. In the development version of the GIMP this feature ha been enabled by the default by using the space key.. The current gimp 2.2 behavior, of temporarily switching to the move tool will be available throught he preferences settings, though. In gimp 2.2, another work-around is to click on the small square just to the right of the horizontal scroll bar. js -- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] X11
I would hate anyone to think that you can't use GIMP on Mac/X11... I do
it every day without significant problems.
It's a linux-like environment so it feels slightly different. That's
all. No sweat.
On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 11:52 +0100, Axel Wernicke wrote:
Hi Orlando,
please don't get me wrong here. That the GIMP developer will never free
GIMP from X11 on OS X is not caused by they (we) are not willing to do so,
but simply by the fact that there is no direct connection between GIMP and
X11 on the technical view.
May be I can althtough encourage you to give GIMP a chance on OS X (as I do
day by day). Concerning the getting images into issue: You can D'n'D image
files to the dock to open them and (IIRC) you can also transfer them using
the clipboard. Please note, that you need to press Command-C to transfer to
the clipboard, but Ctrl-V (!) to retrieve it on the (ugly) X11 side.
Don't hesitate to ask further questions anyways.
Greetings, lexA
Original-Nachricht
Datum: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:16:25 +
Von: Orlando Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: Axel Wernicke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
Betreff: Re: [Gimp-user] X11
Thanks for helping me
The problem is that I am not a computer expert just a Mac user that
can not copy images from another program to GIMP. But yes... I will
be glad in helping the GTK project. I just do not know how.
Orlando Figueiredo
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On Feb 21, 2007, at 8:05AM, Axel Wernicke wrote:
Hi,
the answer is: never, because not GIMP is bound in no way to X11,
but to the GTK. A stable GTK is unfortunately for Apples OS X only
for an X11 backend available right now. But may be you can help the
GTK project to finish their work on a native backend for OS X and
help this to free GIMP from the X11 slavery on Apple OS X.
Thank you for listening.
lexA
Original-Nachricht
Datum: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 07:13:30 +
Von: Orlando Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
CC:
Betreff: [Gimp-user] X11
Cheers
When will GIMP (Mac version) release itself from X11?
Orlando Figueiredo
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Re: [Gimp-user] X11
Hi Alex I am not getting you wrong. Don't worry. I apologize if I gave you that idea. I am a new Mac user... as many today I got tired of Microsoft crashes and computer slowing and allowing from MacAfee and all that crap. As and I do not have time to go to Linux because, as I told you, I am not a computer expert so I Turn into OS X and I am loving it. When I was a slave of Bill Gates I was trying to free myself and allways used OpenSource Applications like OOo and GIMP. Now that I am on the Mac side I am finding it very pleasant. I found that OS X is a much pleasant OS then MS Windows. The only time that it crashed was when I was installing MS Messenger (I wonder why). I installed NeoOffice which is OOo free from X11. When I installed GIMP I had to face X11. As I told you I am a newbie to OS X and Gimp over X11 was not a very nice experience. And I got a little bit disapointed. You know MS Windows GIMP version works in the same shell as any other program. So I thought if OOo get free of X11 that was causing a few problems with copy/paste and bla bla bla... why not release Gimp too. So I decided to ask to someone who know better then me on this. I use Gimp for photography. In MS Windows I used it to make some photographic art (I hope) and I intend to keep doing it in Mac. I am a portuguese physics and chemistry teacher and an educational researcher who likes to take photos and work them in good free image manipulating software. I don't know if it is technically possible but if it is I will leave my appeal to all Gimp community... lets free Gimp from X11. Meanwhile I will use and love it as I always did. You can find some of my photographic work (made with GIMP - cropping, color etc... etc...etc...) on http://www.1000imagens.com/ orlandofigueiredo/ or in http://www.olhares.com/of1967/. Just don't expect too much. I am just an amateur. It is nice to chat with you and thanks for answering me, thanks for helping me and thanks from your contribute to develop Gimp - even in X11 ;). Keep in touch Orlando Figueiredo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OrlandoFigueiredo.com On Feb 21, 2007, at 10:52AM, Axel Wernicke wrote: Hi Orlando, please don't get me wrong here. That the GIMP developer will never free GIMP from X11 on OS X is not caused by they (we) are not willing to do so, but simply by the fact that there is no direct connection between GIMP and X11 on the technical view. May be I can althtough encourage you to give GIMP a chance on OS X (as I do day by day). Concerning the getting images into issue: You can D'n'D image files to the dock to open them and (IIRC) you can also transfer them using the clipboard. Please note, that you need to press Command-C to transfer to the clipboard, but Ctrl-V (!) to retrieve it on the (ugly) X11 side. Don't hesitate to ask further questions anyways. Greetings, lexA Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:16:25 + Von: Orlando Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Axel Wernicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Betreff: Re: [Gimp-user] X11 Thanks for helping me The problem is that I am not a computer expert just a Mac user that can not copy images from another program to GIMP. But yes... I will be glad in helping the GTK project. I just do not know how. Orlando Figueiredo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OrlandoFigueiredo.com On Feb 21, 2007, at 8:05AM, Axel Wernicke wrote: Hi, the answer is: never, because not GIMP is bound in no way to X11, but to the GTK. A stable GTK is unfortunately for Apples OS X only for an X11 backend available right now. But may be you can help the GTK project to finish their work on a native backend for OS X and help this to free GIMP from the X11 slavery on Apple OS X. Thank you for listening. lexA Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 07:13:30 + Von: Orlando Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU CC: Betreff: [Gimp-user] X11 Cheers When will GIMP (Mac version) release itself from X11? Orlando Figueiredo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OrlandoFigueiredo.com -- Feel free - 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX TopMail testen: www.gmx.net/de/go/mailfooter/topmail-out -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] X11 yet
Hi again. I know I am a pain in the... you know where but... There is a (very) simplified imitation of GIMP that do not use X11. Check http://seashore.sourceforge.net/index.php Cheers Orlando Figueiredo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OrlandoFigueiredo.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] X11 yet
Yeah, AFAIK this is a one man project that uses some GIMP implementations (libraries) and wrapps them within his own application. It looks like an interesting approach, but somehow I doubt that this is what the future of GIMP looks like. GIMP is not designed to be Paint for *ix just my 2c, lexA P.S: not you are the pain, but X11 is to a certain degree on OS X... Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:36:19 + Von: Orlando Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Gimp-user gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU CC: Betreff: [Gimp-user] X11 yet Hi again. I know I am a pain in the... you know where but... There is a (very) simplified imitation of GIMP that do not use X11. Check http://seashore.sourceforge.net/index.php Cheers Orlando Figueiredo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OrlandoFigueiredo.com -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] X11; Welcome to Mac. No Yellow Cursor problem for you?
Welcome to the Mac World Orlando. No yellow cursor problem for you? I am having the problem in spite of the fix offered up on this website: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060316124704289 I'm having the same problem as another individual on that page which I relate there if you care to look. Best of luck, Kirk On Feb 21, 2007, at 7:11 AM, Orlando Figueiredo wrote: Hi Alex I am not getting you wrong. Don't worry. I apologize if I gave you that idea. I am a new Mac user... as many today I got tired of Microsoft crashes and computer slowing and allowing from MacAfee and all that crap. As and I do not have time to go to Linux because, as I told you, I am not a computer expert so I Turn into OS X and I am loving it. When I was a slave of Bill Gates I was trying to free myself and allways used OpenSource Applications like OOo and GIMP. Now that I am on the Mac side I am finding it very pleasant. I found that OS X is a much pleasant OS then MS Windows. The only time that it crashed was when I was installing MS Messenger (I wonder why). I installed NeoOffice which is OOo free from X11. When I installed GIMP I had to face X11. As I told you I am a newbie to OS X and Gimp over X11 was not a very nice experience. And I got a little bit disapointed. You know MS Windows GIMP version works in the same shell as any other program. So I thought if OOo get free of X11 that was causing a few problems with copy/paste and bla bla bla... why not release Gimp too. So I decided to ask to someone who know better then me on this. I use Gimp for photography. In MS Windows I used it to make some photographic art (I hope) and I intend to keep doing it in Mac. I am a portuguese physics and chemistry teacher and an educational researcher who likes to take photos and work them in good free image manipulating software. I don't know if it is technically possible but if it is I will leave my appeal to all Gimp community... lets free Gimp from X11. Meanwhile I will use and love it as I always did. You can find some of my photographic work (made with GIMP - cropping, color etc... etc...etc...) on http://www.1000imagens.com/orlandofigueiredo/ or in http://www.olhares.com/of1967/. Just don't expect too much. I am just an amateur. It is nice to chat with you and thanks for answering me, thanks for helping me and thanks from your contribute to develop Gimp - even in X11 ;). Keep in touch Orlando Figueiredo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OrlandoFigueiredo.com On Feb 21, 2007, at 10:52AM, Axel Wernicke wrote: Hi Orlando, please don't get me wrong here. That the GIMP developer will never free GIMP from X11 on OS X is not caused by they (we) are not willing to do so, but simply by the fact that there is no direct connection between GIMP and X11 on the technical view. May be I can althtough encourage you to give GIMP a chance on OS X (as I do day by day). Concerning the getting images into issue: You can D'n'D image files to the dock to open them and (IIRC) you can also transfer them using the clipboard. Please note, that you need to press Command-C to transfer to the clipboard, but Ctrl-V (!) to retrieve it on the (ugly) X11 side. Don't hesitate to ask further questions anyways. Greetings, lexA Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:16:25 + Von: Orlando Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Axel Wernicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Betreff: Re: [Gimp-user] X11 Thanks for helping me The problem is that I am not a computer expert just a Mac user that can not copy images from another program to GIMP. But yes... I will be glad in helping the GTK project. I just do not know how. Orlando Figueiredo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OrlandoFigueiredo.com On Feb 21, 2007, at 8:05AM, Axel Wernicke wrote: Hi, the answer is: never, because not GIMP is bound in no way to X11, but to the GTK. A stable GTK is unfortunately for Apples OS X only for an X11 backend available right now. But may be you can help the GTK project to finish their work on a native backend for OS X and help this to free GIMP from the X11 slavery on Apple OS X. Thank you for listening. lexA Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 07:13:30 + Von: Orlando Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU CC: Betreff: [Gimp-user] X11 Cheers When will GIMP (Mac version) release itself from X11? Orlando Figueiredo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OrlandoFigueiredo.com -- Feel free - 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX TopMail testen: www.gmx.net/de/go/mailfooter/topmail-out -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
Re: [Gimp-user] X11 yet
Von: Axel Wernicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S: not you are the pain, but X11 is to a certain degree on OS X... Well, if there would be some OS X users who'd try to build GTK+ without the X11 dependency (see http://developer.imendio.com/projects/gtk-macosx) and then did use this GTK+ and build GIMP, we might see some progress towards a GIMP which does not require X11 on OS X. Right now, it is rather easy to get the impression that no one does try to build GIMP - especially the current development releases or even SVN trunk - on OS X at all. HTH, Michael -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] X11 yet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michael, actually I'm not building against SVN, but to each and every official release. I don't think that it makes any sense if a regular user is trying to build GIMP unstable to the GTK/OS X pre alpha. I'd love to provide my Mac for some experiments, but I think an experienced dev is needed to support this. Anybody willing to give it a try? lexA Am 21.02.2007 um 18:05 schrieb Michael Schumacher: Von: Axel Wernicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S: not you are the pain, but X11 is to a certain degree on OS X... Well, if there would be some OS X users who'd try to build GTK+ without the X11 dependency (see http://developer.imendio.com/ projects/gtk-macosx) and then did use this GTK+ and build GIMP, we might see some progress towards a GIMP which does not require X11 on OS X. Right now, it is rather easy to get the impression that no one does try to build GIMP - especially the current development releases or even SVN trunk - on OS X at all. HTH, Michael -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user - --- Remember: There are only two tools in life. WD-40, for when something doesn't move, and should, and Duct Tape, for when something is moving and it shouldn't. So does the universe explode if you spray duct tape with WD-40? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFF3IUMR9mXLVsAbiQRAq2MAJ96FPqwmAcqfqapXB+jdhe0ii3qHgCgvSDe FKwldURGzS3wNY11OHtQRUY= =gqOe -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] X11; Welcome to Mac. No Yellow Cursor problem for you?
Actually I noticed a yellow cursor when GIMP is running. But I didn't care that much. Thanks for the hint. Cheers Orlando Figueiredo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OrlandoFigueiredo.com On Feb 21, 2007, at 4:19PM, Kirk Tirakian wrote: Welcome to the Mac World Orlando. No yellow cursor problem for you? I am having the problem in spite of the fix offered up on this website: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060316124704289 I'm having the same problem as another individual on that page which I relate there if you care to look. Best of luck, Kirk On Feb 21, 2007, at 7:11 AM, Orlando Figueiredo wrote: Hi Alex I am not getting you wrong. Don't worry. I apologize if I gave you that idea. I am a new Mac user... as many today I got tired of Microsoft crashes and computer slowing and allowing from MacAfee and all that crap. As and I do not have time to go to Linux because, as I told you, I am not a computer expert so I Turn into OS X and I am loving it. When I was a slave of Bill Gates I was trying to free myself and allways used OpenSource Applications like OOo and GIMP. Now that I am on the Mac side I am finding it very pleasant. I found that OS X is a much pleasant OS then MS Windows. The only time that it crashed was when I was installing MS Messenger (I wonder why). I installed NeoOffice which is OOo free from X11. When I installed GIMP I had to face X11. As I told you I am a newbie to OS X and Gimp over X11 was not a very nice experience. And I got a little bit disapointed. You know MS Windows GIMP version works in the same shell as any other program. So I thought if OOo get free of X11 that was causing a few problems with copy/ paste and bla bla bla... why not release Gimp too. So I decided to ask to someone who know better then me on this. I use Gimp for photography. In MS Windows I used it to make some photographic art (I hope) and I intend to keep doing it in Mac. I am a portuguese physics and chemistry teacher and an educational researcher who likes to take photos and work them in good free image manipulating software. I don't know if it is technically possible but if it is I will leave my appeal to all Gimp community... lets free Gimp from X11. Meanwhile I will use and love it as I always did. You can find some of my photographic work (made with GIMP - cropping, color etc... etc...etc...) on http://www.1000imagens.com/ orlandofigueiredo/ or in http://www.olhares.com/of1967/. Just don't expect too much. I am just an amateur. It is nice to chat with you and thanks for answering me, thanks for helping me and thanks from your contribute to develop Gimp - even in X11 ;). Keep in touch Orlando Figueiredo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OrlandoFigueiredo.com On Feb 21, 2007, at 10:52AM, Axel Wernicke wrote: Hi Orlando, please don't get me wrong here. That the GIMP developer will never free GIMP from X11 on OS X is not caused by they (we) are not willing to do so, but simply by the fact that there is no direct connection between GIMP and X11 on the technical view. May be I can althtough encourage you to give GIMP a chance on OS X (as I do day by day). Concerning the getting images into issue: You can D'n'D image files to the dock to open them and (IIRC) you can also transfer them using the clipboard. Please note, that you need to press Command-C to transfer to the clipboard, but Ctrl-V (!) to retrieve it on the (ugly) X11 side. Don't hesitate to ask further questions anyways. Greetings, lexA Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:16:25 + Von: Orlando Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Axel Wernicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Betreff: Re: [Gimp-user] X11 Thanks for helping me The problem is that I am not a computer expert just a Mac user that can not copy images from another program to GIMP. But yes... I will be glad in helping the GTK project. I just do not know how. Orlando Figueiredo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OrlandoFigueiredo.com On Feb 21, 2007, at 8:05AM, Axel Wernicke wrote: Hi, the answer is: never, because not GIMP is bound in no way to X11, but to the GTK. A stable GTK is unfortunately for Apples OS X only for an X11 backend available right now. But may be you can help the GTK project to finish their work on a native backend for OS X and help this to free GIMP from the X11 slavery on Apple OS X. Thank you for listening. lexA Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 07:13:30 + Von: Orlando Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU CC: Betreff: [Gimp-user] X11 Cheers When will GIMP (Mac version) release itself from X11? Orlando Figueiredo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OrlandoFigueiredo.com -- Feel free - 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX TopMail testen:
Re: [Gimp-user] X11 yet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 whoaps: look at http://developer.imendio.com/projects/gtk-macosx - specially have a look at the screenshot - wtf is Matt Rose and how do I get a copy :) Am 21.02.2007 um 18:44 schrieb Axel Wernicke: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michael, actually I'm not building against SVN, but to each and every official release. I don't think that it makes any sense if a regular user is trying to build GIMP unstable to the GTK/OS X pre alpha. I'd love to provide my Mac for some experiments, but I think an experienced dev is needed to support this. Anybody willing to give it a try? lexA Am 21.02.2007 um 18:05 schrieb Michael Schumacher: Von: Axel Wernicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S: not you are the pain, but X11 is to a certain degree on OS X... Well, if there would be some OS X users who'd try to build GTK+ without the X11 dependency (see http://developer.imendio.com/ projects/gtk-macosx) and then did use this GTK+ and build GIMP, we might see some progress towards a GIMP which does not require X11 on OS X. Right now, it is rather easy to get the impression that no one does try to build GIMP - especially the current development releases or even SVN trunk - on OS X at all. HTH, Michael -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user - --- Remember: There are only two tools in life. WD-40, for when something doesn't move, and should, and Duct Tape, for when something is moving and it shouldn't. So does the universe explode if you spray duct tape with WD-40? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFF3IUMR9mXLVsAbiQRAq2MAJ96FPqwmAcqfqapXB+jdhe0ii3qHgCgvSDe FKwldURGzS3wNY11OHtQRUY= =gqOe -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user - --- Live is like a chocolate box, you never know what you wanna get... GPG Signatur auf http://wernicke-online.net/Impressum/ prüfen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFF3InKR9mXLVsAbiQRAsy6AJ9nvHeoHXFZoMwaLZrsYAwbdPSAKACdF6Md ZyiiYJqVLugqcp7ikXMRqQk= =3G4P -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] X11 yet
* Axel Wernicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-21-07 13:14]: whoaps: look at http://developer.imendio.com/projects/gtk-macosx - specially have a look at the screenshot - wtf is Matt Rose and how do I get a copy :) Doing what you can do yourself, appears Matt Rose provided the screen shot. Looks like the build instructions will lead you thru the steps. -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Another question
Cheers Can anyone help installing the Canon N1220U scanner to work with GIMP. I made de download of a installer from Canon that search for a local to instal the driver. The problem is that the installer do not give me back any location path and I don't have any idea where shoud I put it. Thanks again Orlando Figueiredo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OrlandoFigueiredo.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
