Re: [Gimp-user] upgrade to Leopard on Mac presents GIMP problem
how many people here are on dialup? for anyone still debating the switch in the usa, i have found that it paid for itself. i have not owned a land line in years. i own an iphone. period. i am on the cheapest plan with that since I use email to stay in contact with over 95% of the people I know. I also threw away my fax machine.years ago. i use the free faxzero online instead. I don't need to add to my broadband cable bill with entertainment because I get all the dvds I need free from the 3 libraries I use, setting up my holds online. so i need no tv other than as a monitor. i can also stream media on my macbook for further entertainment or education, including podcasts. both my husband and i can also be online at the same time. i can also carry my macbook all over my home and still be online, including outside. This is also tax deductible because we use it for work. All this for $45 a month. Oh, and I need to use a stamp once or twice a month now since I handle all my mail online. I realize those of you not in the usa do not have these ideal cirecumstances necessarily but it is hard for me to understand why anyone in the usa thinks dialup is a bargain. carol On 11/2/07, Chris Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 2, 2007 10:13 PM, carol irvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, i haven't. i just discovered this problem this evening. i finally took photos today with my iphone and i wanted to see how much i could improve them in an image editor. that's when i tried opening them in GIMP and discovered the problem. so i ended up going to photoshop and editing them there. actually, the pictures were pretty good. i was just curious as to how good a camera was on the iphone. (talk about point and shoot!) i especially like the way i can see the image i'm going to shoot on the iphone, click on the iphone and it takes it on the back of it. i photo pops up when i sync with the iphone and the mac and pics come right in. i guess i'll try a reinstall this weekend unless there is a big notice there that it only works on Tiger (the earlier OS), oh, am attaching two photos. all i did was crop these two. I'm officially jealous :) It would be better to upload your attachments somewhere (photobucket, etc) and post a link - anyone on dial-up is going to have a hell of a time with that last message ;) Chris ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] dial-up (was: upgrade to Leopard)
On Saturday 03 November 2007 22:31:44 carol irvin wrote: how many people here are on dialup? Me. Mostly due to lack of alternatives. If either the Government or an ISP or both gets an act, we can eventually get a 512kb satellite connection for about AUD$45 a month. Plus ghasp dollars per gigabyte. None of the mobile (cellular) based data networks are functional here (town in Western side of Tasmania) (very few even work for telephones), the sole alternative (called OneWire) is wireless within town (to fixed-point Yagi antennae) but sometimes works out slower than dialup. There is no DSLAM in the exchange, nor even any promises from telcos about one. So no ADSL. There is no real wireless. This is quite a change from the city of Perth, Western Australia, where barebone ADSL can be had from AUD$15 a month, real (ADSL2, 6 Mb vs 800 kb, 10GB/month) from AUD$49 a month, wireless (most areas, about AUD$90 a month), mobile (everywhere, from about AUD$120 a month for a useful plan), etc. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] no flame war: germany vs usa-- over broadband use
if you are trying to do image and high tech work and find it a tax deductible expense of your work, then I fail to see how the larger scheme of world poverty is at issue. if you are on this list, you already own a computer and are already on dialup at the very least so you are not part of the world poverty scene. you also are not going to get very far in your image work, if you do it professionally, if it takes you an eternity to pass images back and forth to the people in your professional market place. I published a book in 2004 which I sent back and forth straight through from 1st draft to final galleys online, saving me several hundred dollars (what I used to pay in earlier editions of the textbook in mailing it in during each phase). I could not do this passing the book versions on dialup. I also needed no phone calls with my editor during this time period and I used to have tons of calls, all long distance. I was even able to work online with the printer. I am trying to show you how to SAVE money by using broadband in the usa. I see you are in germany. a friend of mine in dresden and I will be doing a broadband chat tomorrow so that she can use me as her interview subject for a class project she has at the university medical school there (she needed a person with cancer for her study). we eliminated faxes and phones and are doing the whole thing online and, at least in my case, totally for free. we will also be able to transmit images and documents back and forth easily as we chat. I realize americans are not very popular right now and it is easy to take potshots at any american as an imperialist (even though I did not vote for the person in power). However, a person could likewise take some pretty cheap shots at a german if one wanted to go back to some earlier decades in the twentieth century. However, I am not ignorant enough to assume every german i meet is a Nazi underneath nowadays, although plenty of people around the world continue to make those cracks and have those beliefs. I also believe modern day Germany is set up so as to avoid poverty pretty well, and especially in its health care system. I am not going to say anymore on this subject. In fact, I am going to do something else for awhile rather than talk to someone who is obviously looking for a flame war. A flame war is indeed off topic. carol On 11/3/07, Marc Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 07:31:44AM -0400, carol irvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how many people here are on dialup? for anyone still debating the switch in This is completely off-topic. since I handle all my mail online. I realize those of you not in the usa do not have these ideal cirecumstances necessarily but it is hard for me to understand why anyone in the usa thinks dialup is a bargain. This is the most imperialistic and stupid crap I heard in a long time. Do you really believe this shit or are you on drugs? The USA is technologically behind in many important areas, and poverty is a big problem, forcing many people to live in a way far worse than in most europeean countries. Just because you have the money doesn't mean everybody else has, especially in a country like the us with its many poor people, substandard health support and so on. You really need to get a grip on reality, carol :/ -- The choice of a Deliantra, the free code+content MORPG -==- _GNU_ http://www.deliantra.net ==-- _ generation ---==---(_)__ __ __ Marc Lehmann --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] 2.4 Print dialog
Is there any way to get the print dialog in 2.4 to work like the old Gimp-Print one? The new one is hopeless: doesn't list my printers (which the old one didn't either but at least I could tell it about them), won't take a .ppd file to set printable area or indeed any other feature of the printers, refuses to remember ANY details of any sort so when printing a series of images of the same size, for example, I have to select ignore printer margins for each one (and I have no idea what those print margins are nor where they originate) and type the name of the printer manually every time, which gets tedious very quickly. I assume that the print dialog in 2.4 is a placeholder for soemthing else but I don't know what. Should I be using Gutenprint now? Thomas ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 Print dialog
Is there any way to get the print dialog in 2.4 to work like the old Gimp-Print one? The new one is hopeless: doesn't list my printers (which the old one didn't either but at least I could tell it about them), won't take a .ppd file to set printable area or indeed any other feature of the printers, refuses to remember ANY details of any sort so when printing a series of images of the same size, for example, I have to select ignore printer margins for each one (and I have no idea what those print margins are nor where they originate) and type the name of the printer manually every time, which gets tedious very quickly. I believe a lot depends on which version of Gimp one uses so an indication of the operating system could be helpful. I am unfortunate in that I haven't yet got Gimp 2.4.1 installed as there is nothing yet for non-techies using Ubuntu. However, according to the image in Akkana Peck's book it looks the same as in earlier versions of Gimp as does the page in Gimp 2.4 rc3. I assume that the print dialog in 2.4 is a placeholder for soemthing else but I don't know what. Should I be using Gutenprint now? I believe that printing in Gimp is via a plugin which on Linux systems is Gutenprint. Norman ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 Print dialog
Duh! I'm on Linux (Gentoo) with Gimp 2.4.1 installed. Should have said; I keep forgetting there's other platforms out there! On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:27:38 -, norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to get the print dialog in 2.4 to work like the old Gimp-Print one? The new one is hopeless: doesn't list my printers (which the old one didn't either but at least I could tell it about them), won't take a .ppd file to set printable area or indeed any other feature of the printers, refuses to remember ANY details of any sort so when printing a series of images of the same size, for example, I have to select ignore printer margins for each one (and I have no idea what those print margins are nor where they originate) and type the name of the printer manually every time, which gets tedious very quickly. I believe a lot depends on which version of Gimp one uses so an indication of the operating system could be helpful. I am unfortunate in that I haven't yet got Gimp 2.4.1 installed as there is nothing yet for non-techies using Ubuntu. However, according to the image in Akkana Peck's book it looks the same as in earlier versions of Gimp as does the page in Gimp 2.4 rc3. I assume that the print dialog in 2.4 is a placeholder for soemthing else but I don't know what. Should I be using Gutenprint now? I believe that printing in Gimp is via a plugin which on Linux systems is Gutenprint. Norman ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 Print dialog
That's great, thanks. Bought the book, by the way. Very useful even though I've been using Gimp for quite a long time now. Thomas On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:00:18 -, Akkana Peck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas Worthington writes: Is there any way to get the print dialog in 2.4 to work like the old Gimp-Print one? The new one is hopeless: doesn't list my printers (which norman writes: that I haven't yet got Gimp 2.4.1 installed as there is nothing yet for non-techies using Ubuntu. However, according to the image in Akkana Peck's book it looks the same as in earlier versions of Gimp as does the page in Gimp 2.4 rc3. The new GTK print system wasn't introduced into GIMP until after Beginning GIMP went to press, so the dialogs shown in the book are the Gutenprint ones, not the new default print dialog that comes from GTK. I assume that the print dialog in 2.4 is a placeholder for soemthing else but I don't know what. Should I be using Gutenprint now? You can still get the Gutenprint plug-in from the project's web site http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ -- or you may be able to install it as part of your distro. Ubuntu Gutsy seems to install Gutenprint by default, instead of the gtk print plug-in, but I don't know what other distros are doing with 2.4. You can have both installed -- they'll show up in the File menu as Print and Print with Gutenprint. I use Gutenprint myself, because of the control it gives me over resolution, paper type, and placement on the page, its live preview, and because GTK print is still a bit buggy; but GTK's print has improved quite a bit recently, so it may yet become usable. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] Negative Press
Barry Loo wrote: GIMP just got some negative press at linux.com. What are y'alls opinions on it? It reads as negative press regarding the GIMP UI redesign process and web site rather than negative press regarding GIMP. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ |What are we going to do today, Borg? Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 |Same thing we always do, Pinkutus: | Try to assimilate the world! #include disclaimer/favourite | -Pinkutus the Borg ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
