[Gimp-user] restoring faded transparencies
Hi all, I am very excited to read about this plugin to restore old pictures. I have installed it in GIMP 2.6.4 under Fedora 9; the 'Restore' button appears in the main menu and the dialogue comes up. However when I click OK, I get an error message: IndexError: tuple index out of range and this output: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/python/gimpfu.py, line 692, in response dialog.res = run_script(params) File /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/python/gimpfu.py, line 353, in run_script return apply(function, params) File /home/jan/.gimp-2.6/plug-ins/restore.py, line 112, in restore av=[(newc[R][i]+newc[G][i]+newc[B][i])/(3.0*255) for i in range(0,256)] IndexError: tuple index out of range What can I do to repair this? By the way it was difficult to get Gimp 2.6.4 running under FC9. YUM would not install it (only 2.4), and I had to collect the correct babl and gegl versions from various places on the net, each with problematic dependencies of their own. It took quite some time to figure it out; fortunately everything could be found. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] but toolbox and dock do NOT stay above imagewindow in ver2.6?
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 3:56 AM, Martin Nordholts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kristin Falck wrote: I'm confused with the new version 2.6. confused with one of the main release notes: ... and ensuring that the Toolbox and Docks always are above image windows... - but they aren't staying above! What am I missing? (I'm a Gimp on windows-user) /Kristin Hi You should have read the release notes more carefully. From 'Known Problems': The Utility window hint is currently only known to work well in the GNOME desktop environment. In order for this to work on Windows somebody have to fix the Windows backend of GTK+. BR, Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user It's strange. All the developmental releases had toolbox always on top. I use Linux and now it is not on top. The only way I could get it on top is to right0click on the titlebar and select always on top, but then it's literally on top of every window, firefox for instance. Is there some way to enable on top. It's a bit early for me in the morning. Perhaps I am missing something. What happened to that wonderful on top toolbox from the Developmental releases? It went really good with RatPoisonWM because all you had to do was quick resize the toolbox and it made GIMP compatible with the RPWM. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] but toolbox and dock do NOT stay above imagewindow in ver2.6?
Nope, I have never used GIMP on Windows! I only said now randomly. I think I was just letting know what OS I was using so no one had to ask. So originally in the developmental releases, the developers just had it checked in gnome to be always on top, and the ontop feature wasn't something intrinsic in the new GIMP? That's weir because when I used the developmental, I seem it remember it being more dynamic, like the toolbox would always be ontop of GIMP canvas, bu other windows like firefox would go over the toolbox. This setting in Edit - Preferences - Window Management seems to just make the toolbox an uber-window. Maybe I should go back to the developmental release, or am I not remembering it properly? On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 5:09 AM, Martin Nordholts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Snyder wrote: It's strange. All the developmental releases had toolbox always on top. I use Linux and now it is not on top. The only way I could get it on top is to right0click on the titlebar and select always on top, but then it's literally on top of every window, firefox for instance. Is there some way to enable on top. It's a bit early for me in the morning. Perhaps I am missing something. What happened to that wonderful on top toolbox from the Developmental releases? You say I use Linux now [...]. Did you use something else when it worked? In any case, what GIMP 2.6 has done is simply to change the default in Edit - Preferences - Window Management for Hint for the toolbox Hint for other docks to 'Utility window' instead of 'Normal'. This change in defaults was made possible with the introduction of the Empty Image Window. Perhaps when it worked you had those set set to 'Keep above' ? BR, Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] GIMP-2.6
Whatever happened to GIMP-2.6 releasing in July? I'm using GIMP-2.5.2 and it has no flaws. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Saving individual layers
On the other hand, its sort of useful, because you can define what file type you want the layer to be, png, jpg, gif, etc, simply by adding it to the layer name. Technically, one is supposed to always name layers. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:31 PM, scott s. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nathan Lane wrote: You could make each layer the only visible layer then save the file out and only one layer will be saved out to a file. Thanks , that's a good work around. Separately, I've been informed of a Python script that can split out layers. The only catch is that the file name must be part of the layer name. I suspect it would be possible to edit the script to change that behavior. scott s. . ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-user Digest, Vol 69, Issue 4
is it possible that we are still in need of the save-layers.py bin-plugin? http://fforw.megameta.net/code http://fforw.megameta.net/files/save-layer.py Just make sure to save as a .py and not a .scm file. And if you are on linux, the command line, as if anybody on Linux wouldn't know: $gimptool --install-bin save-layers.py On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Jason Risenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can try to save the individual layers. Just copy the layer you desire and save it as a new layer. --- On Sun, 6/8/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gimp-user Digest, Vol 69, Issue 4 To: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Date: Sunday, June 8, 2008, 3:00 PM Send Gimp-user mailing list submissions to gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Gimp-user digest... Today's Topics: 1. Saving individual layers (scott s.) -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 10:37:12 -1000 From: scott s. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Gimp-user] Saving individual layers To: Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I've been using the Microsoft Office scanning software. It has the capability of saving scans in tiff format. There must be some provision in tiff that allows multiple images (pages) to be saved in a single tiff format file. Gimp 2.4 (Win XP) tiff reader understands this format, opens the file and asks if it should open each page as image or as layers. Opening as layers allows single operations to apply on all pages, making work easier. The problem is there doesn't seem to be any way to print without flattening (all you get is the top layer of course) or to save the result, keeping the layers, in some format that another program can read. What I would like is something that could convert layers to images at least. scott s. . -- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user End of Gimp-user Digest, Vol 69, Issue 4 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Save Layers
Oh, with my installation it was very complicated. I know that in Ubuntu there is actually a script someone wrote that not only does the entire installation of 2.5 but downloads it from svn. In fedora 8 I had many troubles installing it from GLIB versions conflicting and finding all of the devel and library files. I really enjoy fiddling with linux software though. the process of compiling from source is like an addictive game where the only way you win is if the ./configure command actually gets all the way through so you can make. And the obstacles are like locating the lib files. There are many dangers. But really the problem with 2.5 was that it required all the latest Pango, Cairo, GTK+ and stuff and fedora doesnt have all the latest versions in yum and installing new versions of these files is quite difficult because as you mentioned the paths these afre installed in Fedora are kind of strange, but I like Fedora alot so I use it. I also like using development software, liek I'm using the dvelopmental version of Seamonkey in my Fedora. On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:58 PM, David Gowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Jan Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update, I just managed to install Gimp 2.5, which took all day of fiddling, on fedora 8, and this plugin is included in the upcoming version. 2.5 is hard to install! Okay. Personally, I had no trouble, and just required up-to-date versions of GEGL and its dependencies. (Ubuntu 7.10) Last time I checked, Fedora's directory structure was.. eccentric. Was this your problem? (having to recompile and specify the appropriate --prefix for Fedora.) ???, David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Save Layers
I wish to share a nice plug-in I found online recently. It provides a good fast alternative to Guillotine and other guide-slice exports. I thing like this might also be included with Gimp out of the box. http://fforw.megameta.net/code ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Save Layers
Update, I just managed to install Gimp 2.5, which took all day of fiddling, on fedora 8, and this plugin is included in the upcoming version. 2.5 is hard to install! On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Jan Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish to share a nice plug-in I found online recently. It provides a good fast alternative to Guillotine and other guide-slice exports. I thing like this might also be included with Gimp out of the box. http://fforw.megameta.net/code ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] transparency
Like he said, changed it to RGB if it's not already. in the layers toolbox, right click on the layer and in the menu that comes up click add alpha channel. Then use the eraser tool on the area you want erased just to see if it works. On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 12:01 PM, norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Convert the image to RGB mode if it's not already. Select the white region by color. In the Layer - Transparency menu, add an alpha channel. In the same menu, set Color to alpha. This should make the white background to transparent. I selected the white region by colour and in the Layer- Transparency menu added an alpha channel. However, the set Colour to Alpha setting remained greyed out of action. What have I missed, please? Norman ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] JavaScript
Hello all humans, I have been using GIMP for webdesign but have to write all the JavaScript by hand in Gedit the Linux text editor. Since the slice tool and imagemap tool export some HTML tables and JavaScript, I think it would be nice if GIMP somehow included JavaScript or CSS templates and it's own text editor console sort of like the python console it has for editing plugins. Somehow the script templates could automatically be included into the slice HTML exported file. Is this feasible? Also, I have limited programming knowledge. Does anyone know what it might take to program this into GIMP. I will try to do it myself but need some hints. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Problem with printing postscript
Lo list I have a problem with printing into postscript file thus also with printing onto my 2 postscript printers within gimp 2.4.1. Printing postscript into portrait format results in a displaced and distorted ps file (looks like chessboard with displaced fields). While printing into landscape format, however, I'm getting just a blank page out of the 20mb big postscript file. Nothing inside to be seen with any postscript viewer. Printing into pdf file works w/o any problems. Installed gimp packages: gimp-help-0.9-45 gimp24-2.4.1-0.pm.1 libgimpprint-4.2.7-101 gimp-cmyk-0.3-50 gimp24-doc-2.4.1-0.pm.1 gimp24-devel-2.4.1-0.pm.1 libgimpprint-devel-4.2.7-101 ufraw-gimp-0.11-5.1 I'am using the source rpm for SUSE 10.x from packman repository: ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/10.2/src/gimp24-2.4.1-0.pm.1.src.rpm The distribution is Opensuse 10.2. Is this a Gimp bug or shall I check for problems in the src rmp and its compatibility patch inside the rpm? Any feedback much appreciated. Cheers J. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] can someone check this doc for me?
Hello Adam, I just wrote a doc on saving images for the web using gimp. I was wondering if anyone could read it and send me feedback? http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Gimp/OptimisingImagesForWeb At start I was thinking wow, that is very detailed! but when you get to jpeg you loose your breath. In section about jpeg I would suggest to adding some info about color subsampling [1, 2]. This option have big impact on quality and file size. You should also mention EXIF data, they take some space and are not necessary when considering bandwidth. There are also other options which worth mentioning... Default compression level with default subsampling will produce images with visible compression artefact. Especially when saving non-photo images, like graphics with tiny red text on white. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroma_subsampling [2] http://photo.net/learn/jpeg/ In case of PNG worth mentioning that MSIE6 have troubles displaying transparent images. I've no idea if version 7 fixed this problem. Best regards -- --- Jan Tomasek aka Semik http://www.tomasek.cz/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Script-fu errors after upgrade 2.2.15 = 2.4.0-rc2
Hi, I seek help with migrating script-fu script from Gimp 2.2 to 2.4. A long, long time ago I wrote script-fu script to automate adding boder to my photos [1] (just simple frame and two texts at bottom of image). After upgrade to 2.4.0-rc2 script stoped working, first I found problem with (set! variable ...) syntax, I replaced that by (define variable ...) and now I'm getting Procedural database execution of gimp-floating-sel-anchor failed: error without any further explanation of problem. I've no idea what get wrong there. (define rtText (car (gimp-text-fontname img -1 0 0 rightText 0 TRUE fontSize PIXELS fontName) ) ) (define rtTextWidth (car (gimp-drawable-width rtText) ) ) (define rtTextHeight (car (gimp-drawable-height rtText) ) ) (gimp-layer-resize rtLayer rtTextWidth rtTextHeight 0 0 ) ; it die here :(( (gimp-floating-sel-anchor rtText) ^ (gimp-layer-set-offsets rtLayer (- width rtTextWidth frameSize3) (- height(*0.5frameSize)(*0.5rtTextHeight))) Is there some script-fu migration howto? Or maybe on this list is someone so kind to check my script... it is attached to this email. Best regards -- --- Jan Tomasek aka Semik http://www.tomasek.cz/ [1] http://www.tomasek.cz/foto_vylety/Beskydy2005/5den/img/20051030_X_small.html ; $Id: photoBorder.scm,v 1.2 2006-07-23 12:53:18 semik Exp $ (define (gen_select_rectangle border width height) (let* ((n_array (cons-array 10 'double))) (aset n_array 0 border) (aset n_array 1 border) (aset n_array 2 (- width border)) (aset n_array 3 border) (aset n_array 4 (- width border)) (aset n_array 5 (- height border)) (aset n_array 6 border) (aset n_array 7 (- height border)) (aset n_array 8 border) (aset n_array 9 border) n_array) ) (define (script-fu-photo-border aimg adraw leftText rightText textOpacity fontName fontSize frameSize1 frameSize2 frameSize3 color1 color2 ) (let* ((img (car (gimp-drawable-get-image adraw))) (owidth (car (gimp-image-width img))) (oheight (car (gimp-image-height img))) (frameSize (+ frameSize1 frameSize2 frameSize3)) (frameSize23 (+ frameSize2 frameSize3)) (width (+ owidth (* 2 frameSize))) (height (+ oheight (* 2 frameSize))) (layer (car (gimp-layer-new img width height (car (gimp-drawable-type-with-alpha adraw)) Border-Layer 100 NORMAL-MODE))) (rtLayer (car (gimp-layer-new img width height (car (gimp-drawable-type-with-alpha adraw)) rightText 100 NORMAL-MODE))) (ltLayer (car (gimp-layer-new img width height (car (gimp-drawable-type-with-alpha adraw)) leftText 100 NORMAL-MODE))) ) (gimp-context-push) (gimp-image-undo-group-start img) (gimp-image-resize img width height frameSize frameSize) (gimp-image-add-layer img layer 0) (gimp-drawable-fill layer TRANSPARENT-FILL) (gimp-context-set-background (adjcolour color1 0)) (gimp-free-select img 10 (gen_select_rectangle 0 width height) CHANNEL-OP-REPLACE 0 0 0.0) (gimp-free-select img 10 (gen_select_rectangle frameSize width height) 1 ; CHANNEL-OP-SUBTRACT 0 0 0.0) (gimp-edit-fill layer BACKGROUND-FILL) (gimp-context-set-background (adjcolour color2 0)) ; Vnejsi hrana ramecku (gimp-free-select img 10 (gen_select_rectangle frameSize3 width height) CHANNEL-OP-REPLACE 0 0 0.0) ; Vnitrni hrana ramecku (gimp-free-select img 10 (gen_select_rectangle frameSize23 width height) 1 ; CHANNEL-OP-SUBTRACT 0 0 0.0) (gimp-edit-fill layer BACKGROUND-FILL) (gimp-selection-none img) (gimp-layer-set-opacity rtLayer textOpacity) (gimp-image-add-layer img rtLayer 0) (gimp-drawable-fill rtLayer TRANSPARENT-FILL) (gimp-context-set-foreground color2) (define rtText (car (gimp-text-fontname img -1 0 0 rightText 0 TRUE fontSize PIXELS fontName) ) ) (define rtTextWidth (car (gimp-drawable-width rtText) ) ) (define rtTextHeight (car (gimp
Re: [Gimp-user] script-fu
Hi, I found a solution to that problem: just in case, anyone is interested: the command is qsort: (set! li '(4 6 2 3 8)) (qsort li ) gives (2 3 4 6 8) you can even sort tables: (set! li '((4 a) (6 b) (2 c) (3 d) (8 e))) (qsort li car) gives ((2 c) (3 d) (4 a) (6 b) (8 e)) kind regards Jan Würthner Original-Nachricht Datum: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 17:03:45 +0200 Von: Jan Wuerthner [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Betreff: [Gimp-user] script-fu Hello all, i am trying to do some scripting with gimp's scheme interpreter. Can anyone tell me how to sort a list? From the internet I found (set! mylist '(10 3 12)) (sort mylist ) should give (3 10 12), but I get a batch command: experienced an execution error. by the way: Is there a better way to debug such a script? The error message is rather uninformative... thanks in advance, kind regards Jan -- Jan Wuerthner Oddernskamp 15 22529 Hamburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- Jan Wuerthner Oddernskamp 15 22529 Hamburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Echte DSL-Flatrate dauerhaft für 0,- Euro*. Nur noch kurze Zeit! Feel free mit GMX DSL: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] script-fu
Hello all, i am trying to do some scripting with gimp's scheme interpreter. Can anyone tell me how to sort a list? From the internet I found (set! mylist '(10 3 12)) (sort mylist ) should give (3 10 12), but I get a batch command: experienced an execution error. by the way: Is there a better way to debug such a script? The error message is rather uninformative... thanks in advance, kind regards Jan -- Jan Wuerthner Oddernskamp 15 22529 Hamburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] howto obtain level information
hello, I am looking for a way to write something similar to the plug_in_normalize function by scripting: For some reason the normalize function doesn't stretch the levels the way I expect, often there is still a large area of unused color values (I assume there may be very small values not shown in the histogram). Anyway, I have seen there is a function gimp_levels I can use to set the values. Now I need something like gimp_get_levels to determine the values I want to set. I haven't found anything to get the levels information from a drawable. Can anyone help me? Thank you, kind regards Jan Würthner -- Jan Wuerthner Oddernskamp 15 22529 Hamburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Echte DSL-Flatrate dauerhaft für 0,- Euro*. Nur noch kurze Zeit! Feel free mit GMX DSL: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] HDRI image
Maybe Cinepaint (Filmgimp) supports it: http://www.cinepaint.org // Regards J.J. ons 2005-05-25 klockan 06:00 -0400 skrev Teddy Widhi: Hi, i am newbie in gimp. hope the next feature of GIMP support HDRI image. Thank you. Teddy Widhi L. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: [Gug] Wacom Pen Partner
On Thu, 31 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:25:52 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Gug] Wacom Pen Partner A friend just gave me one of these things. Before I even break it out of the box, does anyone know if it will work with SuSE 7.0? I am not a geek, so if there is major hacking involved, I'd rather not. It has Corel Print and PHotohouse software included. Or sayeth the box. You won't have to use that software, it is not good anyway, GNU/Linux + GIMP rules! All drivers are included with X (and gpm if you want to use it in your terminal -- Kate http://www.katewerk.com ___ Gimp User Group mailing list Gug mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/gug -°)GNU/Linux /\\isBEST !!! _\_V-- the (Jan Keirse: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +32 51 22 11 82) (Homepage: http://users.pandora.be/tux ) ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
