[Gimp-user] Newbie alert - please be gentle!

2006-03-03 Thread Paul North
At the risk of asking what is probably THE most obvious question of  
the year, here goes:


I downloaded and installed GimpShop. I'm running Mac OS-X version  
10.4.5. I also downloaded X11user.pkg from Apple and attempted to  
install it. However, during the install, I got a message stating You  
cannot install X11 on this volume. Newer Software already exists on  
your computer.


However, using Spotlight to locate any X11 files only found com/ 
apple.x11.plist in my preferences.


Attempting to launch GimpShop on the assumption that if some version  
of X11 was already installed, it should run, produced a Failed to  
start X11 message.


Any and all clues gratefully accepted.

Thanks,

Paul North
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Re: [Gimp-user] Newbie alert - please be gentle!

2006-03-03 Thread Axel Wernicke

Am 03.03.2006 um 23:36 schrieb Paul North:

At the risk of asking what is probably THE most obvious question of  
the year, here goes:


I downloaded and installed GimpShop. I'm running Mac OS-X version  
10.4.5. I also downloaded X11user.pkg from Apple and attempted to  
install it. However, during the install, I got a message stating  
You cannot install X11 on this volume. Newer Software already  
exists on your computer.


However, using Spotlight to locate any X11 files only found com/ 
apple.x11.plist in my preferences.


Attempting to launch GimpShop on the assumption that if some  
version of X11 was already installed, it should run, produced a  
Failed to start X11 message.




despite you are asking at the completely wrong place (this is neither  
a gimpshop nor a OS X list), you should have a look into / 
Applications/Utilities/X11.app. If it's not there you whether never  
installed it, or trashed it somehow. In any case get your OS X  
install media and reinstall the X11 package. Then try again. If it  
does not work doublecheck with another X11 program like gimp (gimp- 
app.sf.net) and ask your preferred OS X community :)


HTH lexA


Any and all clues gratefully accepted.

Thanks,

Paul North
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Re: [Gimp-user] Newbie alert - please be gentle!

2006-03-03 Thread Paul North

Thanks, Robert. I'll have to install X11 from the Tiger DVD.

I've already discovered that people are a bit sensitive about  
Gimpshop. Another Gimp-user poster wrote:


I appreciate your help. Gimpshop is my first foray into the world of  
Gimp. I'm hoping to use it in place of an aging version of Photoshop,  
primarily for optimizing images for a website.


Cheers!

Paul

On Mar 3, 2006, at 3:28 PM, Robert Citek wrote:




Hello Paul,

Welcome to the Gimp.

On Mar 3, 2006, at 4:36 PM, Paul North wrote:

Attempting to launch GimpShop on the assumption that if some  
version of X11 was already installed, it should run, produced a  
Failed to start X11 message.


Any and all clues gratefully accepted.



As you've discovered, in order to run Gimp (or GimpShop, which is  
based on Gimp) you first need to have X11 installed.  If it is  
installed it will be in Applications  Utilities  X11.app.  If it  
is not installed, it should be on the Tiger DVD that you got either  
with the machine or purchased separately.  This is what worked for me:


1) insert Tiger DVD
2) click on Mac OS X Install DVD  Optional Installs.mpkg
3) when you get to Installation Type, click on Applications  X11
3b) While you're there you may also want to install the Gimp  
printer drivers: Printer Drivers  Gimp Printer Drivers

4) click Upgrade
5) enter your user password (you must be in the Admin group)
6) click Close when you're finished

You should be good to go after that.  Let us know if that works for  
you and what you hope to do with Gimp.


BTW, some folks here are a bit touchy about mentioning Gimpshop.   
So, if you ask a question, be sure to say Gimp instead.  The  
answers you get will need to be adjusted for the difference in menu  
structure and key bindings, but otherwise things will work the same.


Regards,
- Robert
http://www.cwelug.org/downloads
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[Gimp-user] Newbie alert - please be gentle!

2006-03-01 Thread Ross Brown

Afternoon All

A newbie to Gimp but wanted to give it a go as I'd heard so many good  
things about it.


Found a basic problem that could stop me using it - but I'm sure it's  
solvable.


I'm running Gimp through X11 on a Mac (running OSX 10.4.5).

I keep all my work on a remote file server but the Open dialogue in  
Gimp doesn't appear to be able to connect to this mounted drive.


I may be missing a trick - either through Gimp or in OSX - and would  
appreciate any help anybody could give.


Apologies if this problem is solved in an FAQ, I've had a look but  
can't see anything relevant.


Many thanks in anticipation,
Ross
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Re: [Gimp-user] Newbie alert - please be gentle!

2006-03-01 Thread Tom Williams
Ross Brown wrote:
 Afternoon All

 A newbie to Gimp but wanted to give it a go as I'd heard so many good
 things about it.

 Found a basic problem that could stop me using it - but I'm sure it's
 solvable.

 I'm running Gimp through X11 on a Mac (running OSX 10.4.5).

 I keep all my work on a remote file server but the Open dialogue in
 Gimp doesn't appear to be able to connect to this mounted drive.

 I may be missing a trick - either through Gimp or in OSX - and would
 appreciate any help anybody could give.

 Apologies if this problem is solved in an FAQ, I've had a look but
 can't see anything relevant.
Sorry, newbies are not allowed here.

:)

Just kidding..  :)

Is the problem the mounted drive doesn't appear in the Open dialog or
that it does appear and you can't open it?

Peace...

Tom


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Re: [Gimp-user] Newbie alert - please be gentle!

2006-03-01 Thread Ross Brown

Sorry, newbies are not allowed here.



Right, I'll take my Mac and wipe my tears then...



Just kidding..  :)



Thank God for that!



Is the problem the mounted drive doesn't appear in the Open dialog or
that it does appear and you can't open it?



The mounted drive doesn't appear in the Open dialogue (you say  
dialog, I say dialogue... let's call the whole thing off) and the  
permanent links to the relevant folders (essentially the Work folder  
on the remote server) isn't recognised as a symlink.




Peace...



Cheers!

RB

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Re: [Gimp-user] Newbie alert - please be gentle!

2006-03-01 Thread Axel Wernicke


Am 01.03.2006 um 20:02 schrieb Ross Brown:


Sorry, newbies are not allowed here.



Right, I'll take my Mac and wipe my tears then...



Just kidding..  :)



Thank God for that!


Yeah, you should be - not everybody has as much luck as you did ;)





Is the problem the mounted drive doesn't appear in the Open dialog or
that it does appear and you can't open it?



The mounted drive doesn't appear in the Open dialogue (you say  
dialog, I say dialogue... let's call the whole thing off) and the  
permanent links to the relevant folders (essentially the Work  
folder on the remote server) isn't recognised as a symlink.


so where did you search? The right place would be /Volumes/ 
nameOfTheMountedVolume. If you can't navigate to that place for  
some reason you can enter the path directly to the text field in the  
GIMP open file dialog.


Hope that helps

lexA

running Mac OS 10.4.5 @ intel





Peace...



Cheers!

RB

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Re: [Gimp-user] Newbie alert - please be gentle!

2006-03-01 Thread Ross Brown
so where did you search? The right place would be /Volumes/ 
nameOfTheMountedVolume. If you can't navigate to that place for  
some reason you can enter the path directly to the text field in  
the GIMP open file dialog.


Aha! (sort of).

Found it but it wasn't *that* simple...

Open | Filesystem | Volumes | Name of volume

Makes perfect sense now I know - but couldn't access the mounted  
drives/machines either through


Open | Filesystem | Network | Name of network machine/volume

or

Open | Desktop | Name of symlink

Think it was caution at not wanting to break something, especially  
when running Gimp through X11.



Hope that helps


Got me thinking about how to find Volumes so, yes, thanks.

RB


running Mac OS 10.4.5 @ intel


Show off! :-)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Newbie alert - please be gentle!

2006-03-01 Thread Jakub Steiner
On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 17:24 +, Ross Brown wrote:
 Afternoon All
 
 A newbie to Gimp but wanted to give it a go as I'd heard so many good  
 things about it.
 
 Found a basic problem that could stop me using it - but I'm sure it's  
 solvable.
 
 I'm running Gimp through X11 on a Mac (running OSX 10.4.5).
 
 I keep all my work on a remote file server but the Open dialogue in  
 Gimp doesn't appear to be able to connect to this mounted drive.
Hi.
If it's mounted, it's likely accessible as /Volumes/name_of_volume
which is the default location where os X mounts stuff.

cheers

-- 
Jakub Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Novell, Inc.

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