[Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread Kekko
I had it too, I discovered in the previous version 2.7 and I was very disappointed about it. I vote for a reverse to the old and more intuitive way. Thanks and bye. Kekko -- Kekko (via gimpusers.com) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnom

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Lyle wrote: > Yeah; file this decision under if it ain't broke, fix it anyway category.   > lol > > Maybe there is a method to the developer's madness, but I've yet seen the > reason why.   Doubt it will get changed back now though, so I've just > accepted it, b

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> > For myself, export/overwrite still seems clumsy when working on > simple, one-off edits. OTOH, I no longer have to worry about > accidentally flattening my 10-layer composition when saving a PNG and > then forgetting to resave as XCF. I'm thinking the long-term gain of > not having to recre

[Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread Lyle
Yeah; file this decision under if it ain't broke, fix it anyway category. lol Maybe there is a method to the developer's madness, but I've yet seen the reason why. Doubt it will get changed back now though, so I've just accepted it, but I've still not gotten use to it yet, and I've been runn

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread Daniel Smith
Nothing like a flame war. Though I must say that I love these "topics" cause it lets a lot of info out about how people have their different workflows, etc. I'm on a Mac and thus relegated to 2.6 but I've leanred an awful lot from reading all said posts. I really love this list and the helpful natu

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread Chris Mohler
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Daniel Smith wrote: > Can I ask if this decision to go to export vs. save, is it somewhat based > around needs of people running gimp without the interface, as a server > component? No - it has to do with these two items, specifically: http://gui.gimp.org/index.ph

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread Daniel Smith
Can I just ask Alexander Prokoudinea question then, since he's obviously very tied to the project intimately? Can I ask if this decision to go to export vs. save, is it somewhat based around needs of people running gimp without the interface, as a server component? Just wondering. Dan Houston _

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread Daniel Smith
So 2.8 saves the history as well? Just wondering. On a Mac and still looking...Course'n, it's a ppc mac so it probably won't work even when they do offer... Thanks. Dan On 5/4/12, jfrazie...@nc.rr.com wrote: > > >> It certainly is not intuitive. The operation should be symmetrical: If I >> open a

Re: [Gimp-user] Translation updates for GIMP 2.8

2012-05-04 Thread Marek Černocký
It would be well to see 2.8 in Damned Lies. There are only 2.6 and master on Damned Lies. So translators don't see missing tranlations. Marek Černocký Alexandre Prokoudine píše v Pá 04. 05. 2012 v 11:52 +0400: > Hi, > > Now that GIMP 2.8 is out, we ask translators to work in the gimp-2-8 > branc

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread jfrazierjr
> It certainly is not intuitive. The operation should be symmetrical: If I > open a PNG, save should save a PNG (unless I applied changes which would > disappear if saved as a PNG, in which case I'd like a warning). And that's the point, GETTING rid of the damn warnings! For me, every single t

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread Partha Bagchi
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: > On 05/04/2012 02:10 PM, Akkana Peck wrote: > >> And a fifth option: write a plug-in that does what you want Save to >> do, perhaps involving gimp-file-save, and bind it to Ctrl-S. >> >> I don't like the new model either, but I'm going to work w

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread John Coppens
On Fri, 4 May 2012 09:52:32 +0400 Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > We don't know exactly what you do ing GIMP during those unsafe workflows. About 90% of the time I load PNGs or jpegs (100s of them), edit them, and save them back in the same format - I don't have any necessity for XCF in these case

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread Daniel Jensen
Alexandre, That change is there for a reason. And the reason is that we are trying to target a special group of users who have certain workflows and work on files in certain ways. As I said in my previous email, I understand the reasons and fundamentally agree with the change, and I really do

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread Steve Kinney
On 05/04/2012 02:10 PM, Akkana Peck wrote: > And a fifth option: write a plug-in that does what you want Save to > do, perhaps involving gimp-file-save, and bind it to Ctrl-S. > > I don't like the new model either, but I'm going to work with it for > a while and see if I continue to feel that way

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread Akkana Peck
kevin writes: > I have already made my thoughts known - I don't like the new system. > > That said, I have three options: (1) adapt my work habits, (2) stay on 2.6. > or > (3) change the source. > > There is a fourth option: the dev's revert to the old functionality. But, > clearly, this is no

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Daniel Jensen wrote: > My main reason for writing here is to warn about the elitist attitude > starting to show itself, which would harm the project in the long run. > Saying "Look, your use case means you might not understand the reasons > behind our design decis

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread Daniel Jensen
First off, I'll say that I understand the rationale for the newer save/export behavior, and even if it needed to be tweaked a little to provide a better user experience it's best for devs to see how people adjust and look at how feedback develops over the next months rather than simply giving u

Re: [Gimp-user] Problem with Gimp 2.7.4 'Text'

2012-05-04 Thread Maurice
On Thursday 03 May 2012 15:53:31 (in 'Hate the new...' thread) I wrote: > I am not "repeatedly saving/exporting' to JPG", but only > once per image (to write annotation), Using Gimp 2.6 on a Mandriva system. I have happily been using a combination of Imagemagick's 'Convert' and Gimp to write

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> From: jvrom...@squirrel.nl > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 08:28:36 +0200 > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior > > Richard Gitschlag writes: > > > It is true, however, that many professional and commercial apps do not > > make a save/export d

Re: [Gimp-user] For GIMP-2.8 I need Fedora 17 .. which isn't released yet

2012-05-04 Thread Johan Vromans
wonderer writes: > for more infos on that please take a look at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GIMP_2.8 What information does that provide w.r.t. the question I raised? -- Johan ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http:/

[Gimp-user] For GIMP-2.8 I need Fedora 17 .. which isn't released yet

2012-05-04 Thread Johan Vromans
Bummer... Anyone managed to build Gimp 2.8 on Fedora 16, 15, 14, ...? ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread isabel brison
> > In short, it makes perfect sense to me that a high end bitmap editor > should, by default, save in its native format and export to other > formats. > > Just about every other program I know uses this pattern. > What about Adobe Photoshop? Or doesn't proprietary software count? because that's

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread jfrazierjr
kevin wrote: > I have already made my thoughts known - I don't like the new system. > > That said, I have three options: (1) adapt my work habits, (2) stay on 2.6. > or > (3) change the source. > > There is a fourth option: the dev's revert to the old functionality. But, > clearly, thi

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread kevin
I have already made my thoughts known - I don't like the new system. That said, I have three options: (1) adapt my work habits, (2) stay on 2.6. or (3) change the source. There is a fourth option: the dev's revert to the old functionality. But, clearly, this is not going to happen. Of the thre

[Gimp-user] GEGL-Operation White Balance

2012-05-04 Thread Bettina
Hi, In GIMP 2.8 (RC, Windows) I am missing the gegl-operation whitebalance. http://codecave.org/gegl/operations.html#op_gegl:whitebalance Any idea where it is gone? Thank you Bettina ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://ma

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread Greg Chapman
Hi Alexandre, On 04 May 12 06:52 Alexandre Prokoudine said: > The problem I see in this thread is that few people tell us exactly > what they do and then complain that we don't do the right thing for > them. 80% of the time I load a .jpg to make some minor edits (use the Curves tool to adjust b

[Gimp-user] Translation updates for GIMP 2.8

2012-05-04 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi, Now that GIMP 2.8 is out, we ask translators to work in the gimp-2-8 branch to update translations of the new stable version. The master branch is where development of the v2.10 is happening, and it's not suitable for daily use yet. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org