Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp

2014-03-14 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 2:13 AM, Daniel Hauck wrote:

 That's okay, the GiMP will get by without you.  But you're right about many
 things.  Among these is that it is written, maintained and directed by tech
 people with the notion that they are taking on the big boys and that they
 have a professional workflow in mind as they continue to develop. One
 problem, though, as they have demonstrated time and time again, GiMP does
 not take complaints or suggestions.

Daniel,

I find it symptomatic that you need to go all the way to outright
denial to prove your point.

Should your statement be taken seriously, you'd have to be able to
explain, how it is possible that

1) we don't take complaints, but regularly fix bugs (bug reports _are_
complaints) and adjust features;
2) we don't take suggestions, but regularly add features requested by users.

Of course, we can have another session of you facing the facts and
denying them, or you can agree that we do listen to feedback and act
on it where we find it appropriate.

Alternatively, you could improve your life quality by order of
magnitude by stopping to use GIMP and leaving the community, because
it looks like you are not happy, and no amount of feedback going back
and forth appears to help.

Alexandre
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[Gimp-user] GIMP -2.8.10 Brushes

2014-03-14 Thread josephbupe
So Randhir,
It is true that the stored brush size is no longer automatically used.

However, GIMP has a feature that is somewhat hidden that can make
for it, and even give much  more flexibility than just the brush size.
 It will require one extra level of configuration, though:
GIMP 2.8 have the tool presets feature. You can find then in the
proper dockable dialog (windows-dockable dialogs-tool presets) -
besides storing suggestions for tool configurations shipped with GIMP,
these presets are a fast way to restore any tool, with all the
configured parameters, with a single click!

So, you have to do the following: select your desired brush,
pick your tool of choice (e.g. the Paintbrush) - type in your desired
size for that brush.
Since you are at it, you may optionally take your time to fine tune
all painting parameters you may like with this brush: smooth stroke,
an specific Painting dynamics, even a color.

When you are done, go to the Tool presets dialog, and press the
button for a new preset. (The button marked with  the same New icon
as is used in most other dialogs). You are then taken to the tool
preset editor dialog - it is an extremely simple dialog - because
when it is open, GIMP will already remember the tool you are using,
along with all the options you finetuned. All you have to do in this
dialog is to mark the Apply stored brush checkbox, in your case (or
don't if you want a preset that will change to a specific brush size,
no matter the selected brush). AH, of course, type in a suitable name
for the preset - like plantbrush size 15. Click on the solitary
save button on the bottom of this dialog, and go back to the tools
preset dialog.

From now on, one single click on the plantbrush size 15 icon in this
dialog will instantly set your brush, size and other painting options,
and switch to the painting tool of choice.

So, this is what make for fixed size for brushes in GIMP 2.8 - but
there is still one further trick:
There are a lot of presets. And if you create one or more preset for
each brush you have, you will soon have a lot more! Now enter in the
tags feature - if you haven't discovered them yet - on the tool
preset dialog, (or any item dialog in GIMP, for that matter), you have
two text entries. The entry below the main dialog contents allow you
to set Tags for each item. For example, you might want to type in
brush in this entry (be sure to press enter after typing it). That
is it - now your preset is Tagged with the brush tag. Now, you just
have to type in brush in the other entry, above the dialog contents,
and those are instantly filtered, showing only the items with the
brush tag. Therefore, you could easily create 10-20 presets making
use of a single tag, and it would be manageable. If you need more than
that, you just add more tags to the mix :-)


  js
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Hi,

Maybe I am not aware, it seems in Gimp 2.8 we only realtime preview of brush
size, rotation and aspect ration settings, but not the spacing. It would be nice
to include in the preview how the spacing would look like before the brush is
used, as my attachment depicts, than having to always try the brush on image
several times to verify the desired settings.

What's your opinion?



Attachments:
* 
http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/106/original/brush-dynamics-preview.png

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp refocus alternative

2014-03-14 Thread Marco Ciampa
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 05:50:23PM +0100, JLuc wrote:
 Le 12/03/2014 17:04, Kevin Payne a écrit :
 Apparently Partha includes refocus-it in his 2.8.10 builds if that's any 
 help: http://www.partha.com/
 
 Hello,
 
 It looks like Partha is only available for Mac and Windows.
 Is there any Partha for Ubuntu Linux ?

Probably because it is partly useless in Ubuntu/Debian since
almost all filters are already packaged in the distro.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Windows: GIMP's ever changing minimized icon

2014-03-14 Thread Richard
 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 21:18:44 +0100
 From: for...@gimpusers.com
 To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 CC: t...@gimpusers.com
 Subject: [Gimp-user] Windows: GIMP's ever changing minimized icon
 
 Is there anyway to make the minimize icon just be the gimp icon?  Looking for 
 a
 different icon based on the image I'm editing is quite annoying!
 
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While I personally do not find it annoying, I agree that -- especially in 
single-window mode -- there is little to no reason GIMP actually needs to show 
image thumbnails as its application icon.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Windows: GIMP's ever changing minimized icon

2014-03-14 Thread Madeleine Fisher
I am on Windows 7 and I don't get that--I just have that little GIMP-dog
thing down on my taskbar. What OS are you running? (And version of GIMP,
etc.)


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Richard strata_ran...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 21:18:44 +0100
  From: for...@gimpusers.com
  To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
  CC: t...@gimpusers.com
  Subject: [Gimp-user] Windows: GIMP's ever changing minimized icon
 
  Is there anyway to make the minimize icon just be the gimp icon?
  Looking for a
  different icon based on the image I'm editing is quite annoying!
 
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 While I personally do not find it annoying, I agree that -- especially in
 single-window mode -- there is little to no reason GIMP actually needs to
 show image thumbnails as its application icon.

 -- Stratadrake
 strata_ran...@hotmail.com
 
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[Gimp-user] Path Tool Annoyances

2014-03-14 Thread akovia
I've posted before about the new path tool problems but nothing really
came of it. I just had a few new things to add.



The main problem is when trying to stroke a hand made path. If either
handle is even the slightest bit pulled out, it will interrupt the
stroke and leave a gap. This is a problem for 2 reasons.



1. When placing nodes, the new tool is too sensitive and I think it
could use some sort of threshold adjustment. Unless you concentrate to
make sure the mouse is completely still when placing the node, click
the mouse and fully release the button before the slightest movement,
it will inevitably pull the handles out the tiniest bit. This can be
very hard to see if you aren't zoomed in extremely close, and really
destroys your workflow.



2. My path workflow has always been to just drag the path itself out
away from the node to draw out the handles. This again now will affect
the handle on the opposing node and push out the handle the slightest
bit and mess up the stroke.



I believe the old path tool probably reacted in nearly the same way,
but the stroke was never left with these gaps. Something about the new
tool is different and requires superior precision on handle placement
or you will experience this trouble. So for the longest time now I've
had to go back and edit these nodes at full zoom to remove the errant
handles or I can never get a clean stroke. I even try to make sure
every handle is out and pointing in a good direction to save myself
some time in the end, but neither way is as quick as the old path tool.



I'm not sure if the path tool is low priority or not, but before the
upgrade, it was a superior tool. I'm all for precision, but there needs
to be a threshold adjustment or something to ignore handles that are
pulled out by less than X-px.

1 would be a great starting point. :P



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Re: [Gimp-user] Path Tool Annoyances

2014-03-14 Thread Simon Budig
akovia (akov...@eml.cc) wrote:
 The main problem is when trying to stroke a hand made path. If either
 handle is even the slightest bit pulled out, it will interrupt the
 stroke and leave a gap. This is a problem for 2 reasons.

I don't understand what you mean by gap? Are you saying that having a
corner at a node makes edit-stroke path leave gaps? Can you create a
screenshot?

 1. When placing nodes, the new tool is too sensitive and I think it
 could use some sort of threshold adjustment. Unless you concentrate to
 make sure the mouse is completely still when placing the node, click
 the mouse and fully release the button before the slightest movement,
 it will inevitably pull the handles out the tiniest bit. This can be
 very hard to see if you aren't zoomed in extremely close, and really
 destroys your workflow.

yeah, that might make sense - my first attempt would put the threshold
at the radius of the node representation.

 2. My path workflow has always been to just drag the path itself out
 away from the node to draw out the handles. This again now will affect
 the handle on the opposing node and push out the handle the slightest
 bit and mess up the stroke.

Note that if you drag the path closely to one node, the handle on the
opposite node will not be moved. Only a (largeish) area in the middle
moves both handles simultaneously (yet still with a shifting weight
depending on where you drag).

 I believe the old path tool probably reacted in nearly the same way,
 but the stroke was never left with these gaps.

Again - I have no idea what gaps you are referring to. Maybe a
screenshot can help.

Bye,
Simon

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Re: [Gimp-user] Path Tool Annoyances

2014-03-14 Thread akovia


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014, at 05:45 PM, Simon Budig wrote:
 akovia (akov...@eml.cc) wrote:
  The main problem is when trying to stroke a hand made path. If either
  handle is even the slightest bit pulled out, it will interrupt the
  stroke and leave a gap. This is a problem for 2 reasons.
 
 I don't understand what you mean by gap? Are you saying that having a
 corner at a node makes edit-stroke path leave gaps? Can you create a
 screenshot?
 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93550827/temp/path-nodes.jpg

  1. When placing nodes, the new tool is too sensitive and I think it
  could use some sort of threshold adjustment. Unless you concentrate to
  make sure the mouse is completely still when placing the node, click
  the mouse and fully release the button before the slightest movement,
  it will inevitably pull the handles out the tiniest bit. This can be
  very hard to see if you aren't zoomed in extremely close, and really
  destroys your workflow.
 
 yeah, that might make sense - my first attempt would put the threshold
 at the radius of the node representation.
 
That sounds good.

  2. My path workflow has always been to just drag the path itself out
  away from the node to draw out the handles. This again now will affect
  the handle on the opposing node and push out the handle the slightest
  bit and mess up the stroke.
 
 Note that if you drag the path closely to one node, the handle on the
 opposite node will not be moved. Only a (largeish) area in the middle
 moves both handles simultaneously (yet still with a shifting weight
 depending on where you drag).
 

Yeah, I am very aware of that. It's probably a bad habit but it always
produced expected results with the old path tool so it's kinda ingrained
in me now. I am always aware when I pop out the opposing handle in any
meaningful way, but this happens at such a small scale that I never know
it till I'm trying to stroke something.

  I believe the old path tool probably reacted in nearly the same way,
  but the stroke was never left with these gaps.
 
 Again - I have no idea what gaps you are referring to. Maybe a
 screenshot can help.
 

Hopefully the screenshot will clear it up. It's very easily reproducible
by just zooming in all the way and tweak a handle in some odd way the
slightest bit. I didn't try to find the worst example, but sometimes it
will leave a huge gap unlike the small one in the screenshot. Maybe next
time I am rendering I will use my normal workflow and capture the
results before going back and repairing it. 

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Re: [Gimp-user] Path Tool Annoyances

2014-03-14 Thread Simon Budig
akovia (akov...@eml.cc) wrote:
  I don't understand what you mean by gap? Are you saying that having a
  corner at a node makes edit-stroke path leave gaps? Can you create a
  screenshot?
  
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93550827/temp/path-nodes.jpg

Wow. I don't know what happens there. Gut feeling: buggy cairo...

  Note that if you drag the path closely to one node, the handle on the
  opposite node will not be moved. Only a (largeish) area in the middle
  moves both handles simultaneously (yet still with a shifting weight
  depending on where you drag).
  
 
 Yeah, I am very aware of that. It's probably a bad habit but it always
 produced expected results with the old path tool so it's kinda ingrained
 in me now. I am always aware when I pop out the opposing handle in any
 meaningful way, but this happens at such a small scale that I never know
 it till I'm trying to stroke something.

note that old path tool is slightly misleading, the only thing that
has changed somewhat recently is the way the handles are drawn.

Bye,
Simon

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Re: [Gimp-user] CD label help

2014-03-14 Thread Akkana Peck
Alexmac writes:
 Im using Gimp 2.8 and im looking to make CD labels that i can stick onto a
 circular CD, the thing is i cant find a template in my GIMP software. Has 
 anyone
 got any tutorials and how do do this, do i need to import a template or
 something?

I used to do a lot of that, and wrote some scripts to help with it:
http://shallowsky.com/software/cdplugins/
and a more general version that uses the glabels database to
generate templates from Avery or similar label codes:
http://shallowsky.com/software/gimplabels/

Disclaimer: You may get deprecation warnings or other problems --
I haven't used these scripts in years, partly because I stopped using
CD labels after I lost some important backup data due to trusting
labeled CDs (turns out the adhesive on CD labels makes the CD
degrade faster, and I had CDs less than two years old which were
completely unreadable) and partly because GIMP's current print
plug-in and my HP printer don't cooperate very well on alignment.

...Akkana
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Re: [Gimp-user] Path Tool Annoyances

2014-03-14 Thread akovia


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014, at 07:05 PM, Simon Budig wrote:
 akovia (akov...@eml.cc) wrote:
   I don't understand what you mean by gap? Are you saying that having a
   corner at a node makes edit-stroke path leave gaps? Can you create a
   screenshot?
   
  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93550827/temp/path-nodes.jpg
 
 Wow. I don't know what happens there. Gut feeling: buggy cairo...
 
   Note that if you drag the path closely to one node, the handle on the
   opposite node will not be moved. Only a (largeish) area in the middle
   moves both handles simultaneously (yet still with a shifting weight
   depending on where you drag).
   
  
  Yeah, I am very aware of that. It's probably a bad habit but it always
  produced expected results with the old path tool so it's kinda ingrained
  in me now. I am always aware when I pop out the opposing handle in any
  meaningful way, but this happens at such a small scale that I never know
  it till I'm trying to stroke something.
 
 note that old path tool is slightly misleading, the only thing that
 has changed somewhat recently is the way the handles are drawn.
 
 Bye,
 Simon
 
That makes perfect sense actually. The precision problem of grabbing
nodes happened in the old tool/handles as well. If there is anything I
can do to help this along I'm happy to try.

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