Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 2:13 AM, Daniel Hauck wrote: That's okay, the GiMP will get by without you. But you're right about many things. Among these is that it is written, maintained and directed by tech people with the notion that they are taking on the big boys and that they have a professional workflow in mind as they continue to develop. One problem, though, as they have demonstrated time and time again, GiMP does not take complaints or suggestions. Daniel, I find it symptomatic that you need to go all the way to outright denial to prove your point. Should your statement be taken seriously, you'd have to be able to explain, how it is possible that 1) we don't take complaints, but regularly fix bugs (bug reports _are_ complaints) and adjust features; 2) we don't take suggestions, but regularly add features requested by users. Of course, we can have another session of you facing the facts and denying them, or you can agree that we do listen to feedback and act on it where we find it appropriate. Alternatively, you could improve your life quality by order of magnitude by stopping to use GIMP and leaving the community, because it looks like you are not happy, and no amount of feedback going back and forth appears to help. Alexandre ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] GIMP -2.8.10 Brushes
So Randhir, It is true that the stored brush size is no longer automatically used. However, GIMP has a feature that is somewhat hidden that can make for it, and even give much more flexibility than just the brush size. It will require one extra level of configuration, though: GIMP 2.8 have the tool presets feature. You can find then in the proper dockable dialog (windows-dockable dialogs-tool presets) - besides storing suggestions for tool configurations shipped with GIMP, these presets are a fast way to restore any tool, with all the configured parameters, with a single click! So, you have to do the following: select your desired brush, pick your tool of choice (e.g. the Paintbrush) - type in your desired size for that brush. Since you are at it, you may optionally take your time to fine tune all painting parameters you may like with this brush: smooth stroke, an specific Painting dynamics, even a color. When you are done, go to the Tool presets dialog, and press the button for a new preset. (The button marked with the same New icon as is used in most other dialogs). You are then taken to the tool preset editor dialog - it is an extremely simple dialog - because when it is open, GIMP will already remember the tool you are using, along with all the options you finetuned. All you have to do in this dialog is to mark the Apply stored brush checkbox, in your case (or don't if you want a preset that will change to a specific brush size, no matter the selected brush). AH, of course, type in a suitable name for the preset - like plantbrush size 15. Click on the solitary save button on the bottom of this dialog, and go back to the tools preset dialog. From now on, one single click on the plantbrush size 15 icon in this dialog will instantly set your brush, size and other painting options, and switch to the painting tool of choice. So, this is what make for fixed size for brushes in GIMP 2.8 - but there is still one further trick: There are a lot of presets. And if you create one or more preset for each brush you have, you will soon have a lot more! Now enter in the tags feature - if you haven't discovered them yet - on the tool preset dialog, (or any item dialog in GIMP, for that matter), you have two text entries. The entry below the main dialog contents allow you to set Tags for each item. For example, you might want to type in brush in this entry (be sure to press enter after typing it). That is it - now your preset is Tagged with the brush tag. Now, you just have to type in brush in the other entry, above the dialog contents, and those are instantly filtered, showing only the items with the brush tag. Therefore, you could easily create 10-20 presets making use of a single tag, and it would be manageable. If you need more than that, you just add more tags to the mix :-) js -- Hi, Maybe I am not aware, it seems in Gimp 2.8 we only realtime preview of brush size, rotation and aspect ration settings, but not the spacing. It would be nice to include in the preview how the spacing would look like before the brush is used, as my attachment depicts, than having to always try the brush on image several times to verify the desired settings. What's your opinion? Attachments: * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/106/original/brush-dynamics-preview.png -- josephbupe (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp refocus alternative
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 05:50:23PM +0100, JLuc wrote: Le 12/03/2014 17:04, Kevin Payne a écrit : Apparently Partha includes refocus-it in his 2.8.10 builds if that's any help: http://www.partha.com/ Hello, It looks like Partha is only available for Mac and Windows. Is there any Partha for Ubuntu Linux ? Probably because it is partly useless in Ubuntu/Debian since almost all filters are already packaged in the distro. -- Marco Ciampa L'utopia sta all'orizzonte. Mi avvicino di due passi, lei si allontana di due passi. Faccio dieci passi e l'orizzonte si allontana di dieci passi. Per quanto cammini, non la raggiungerò mai. A cosa serve l'utopia? A questo: serve a camminare. Eduardo Galeano ++ | Linux User #78271 | | FSFE fellow #364 | ++ ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Windows: GIMP's ever changing minimized icon
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 21:18:44 +0100 From: for...@gimpusers.com To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org CC: t...@gimpusers.com Subject: [Gimp-user] Windows: GIMP's ever changing minimized icon Is there anyway to make the minimize icon just be the gimp icon? Looking for a different icon based on the image I'm editing is quite annoying! -- FrankZentura (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list While I personally do not find it annoying, I agree that -- especially in single-window mode -- there is little to no reason GIMP actually needs to show image thumbnails as its application icon. -- Stratadrake strata_ran...@hotmail.com Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Windows: GIMP's ever changing minimized icon
I am on Windows 7 and I don't get that--I just have that little GIMP-dog thing down on my taskbar. What OS are you running? (And version of GIMP, etc.) On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Richard strata_ran...@hotmail.com wrote: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 21:18:44 +0100 From: for...@gimpusers.com To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org CC: t...@gimpusers.com Subject: [Gimp-user] Windows: GIMP's ever changing minimized icon Is there anyway to make the minimize icon just be the gimp icon? Looking for a different icon based on the image I'm editing is quite annoying! -- FrankZentura (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list While I personally do not find it annoying, I agree that -- especially in single-window mode -- there is little to no reason GIMP actually needs to show image thumbnails as its application icon. -- Stratadrake strata_ran...@hotmail.com Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Path Tool Annoyances
I've posted before about the new path tool problems but nothing really came of it. I just had a few new things to add. The main problem is when trying to stroke a hand made path. If either handle is even the slightest bit pulled out, it will interrupt the stroke and leave a gap. This is a problem for 2 reasons. 1. When placing nodes, the new tool is too sensitive and I think it could use some sort of threshold adjustment. Unless you concentrate to make sure the mouse is completely still when placing the node, click the mouse and fully release the button before the slightest movement, it will inevitably pull the handles out the tiniest bit. This can be very hard to see if you aren't zoomed in extremely close, and really destroys your workflow. 2. My path workflow has always been to just drag the path itself out away from the node to draw out the handles. This again now will affect the handle on the opposing node and push out the handle the slightest bit and mess up the stroke. I believe the old path tool probably reacted in nearly the same way, but the stroke was never left with these gaps. Something about the new tool is different and requires superior precision on handle placement or you will experience this trouble. So for the longest time now I've had to go back and edit these nodes at full zoom to remove the errant handles or I can never get a clean stroke. I even try to make sure every handle is out and pointing in a good direction to save myself some time in the end, but neither way is as quick as the old path tool. I'm not sure if the path tool is low priority or not, but before the upgrade, it was a superior tool. I'm all for precision, but there needs to be a threshold adjustment or something to ignore handles that are pulled out by less than X-px. 1 would be a great starting point. :P -- akovia ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Path Tool Annoyances
akovia (akov...@eml.cc) wrote: The main problem is when trying to stroke a hand made path. If either handle is even the slightest bit pulled out, it will interrupt the stroke and leave a gap. This is a problem for 2 reasons. I don't understand what you mean by gap? Are you saying that having a corner at a node makes edit-stroke path leave gaps? Can you create a screenshot? 1. When placing nodes, the new tool is too sensitive and I think it could use some sort of threshold adjustment. Unless you concentrate to make sure the mouse is completely still when placing the node, click the mouse and fully release the button before the slightest movement, it will inevitably pull the handles out the tiniest bit. This can be very hard to see if you aren't zoomed in extremely close, and really destroys your workflow. yeah, that might make sense - my first attempt would put the threshold at the radius of the node representation. 2. My path workflow has always been to just drag the path itself out away from the node to draw out the handles. This again now will affect the handle on the opposing node and push out the handle the slightest bit and mess up the stroke. Note that if you drag the path closely to one node, the handle on the opposite node will not be moved. Only a (largeish) area in the middle moves both handles simultaneously (yet still with a shifting weight depending on where you drag). I believe the old path tool probably reacted in nearly the same way, but the stroke was never left with these gaps. Again - I have no idea what gaps you are referring to. Maybe a screenshot can help. Bye, Simon -- si...@budig.de http://simon.budig.de/ ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Path Tool Annoyances
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014, at 05:45 PM, Simon Budig wrote: akovia (akov...@eml.cc) wrote: The main problem is when trying to stroke a hand made path. If either handle is even the slightest bit pulled out, it will interrupt the stroke and leave a gap. This is a problem for 2 reasons. I don't understand what you mean by gap? Are you saying that having a corner at a node makes edit-stroke path leave gaps? Can you create a screenshot? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93550827/temp/path-nodes.jpg 1. When placing nodes, the new tool is too sensitive and I think it could use some sort of threshold adjustment. Unless you concentrate to make sure the mouse is completely still when placing the node, click the mouse and fully release the button before the slightest movement, it will inevitably pull the handles out the tiniest bit. This can be very hard to see if you aren't zoomed in extremely close, and really destroys your workflow. yeah, that might make sense - my first attempt would put the threshold at the radius of the node representation. That sounds good. 2. My path workflow has always been to just drag the path itself out away from the node to draw out the handles. This again now will affect the handle on the opposing node and push out the handle the slightest bit and mess up the stroke. Note that if you drag the path closely to one node, the handle on the opposite node will not be moved. Only a (largeish) area in the middle moves both handles simultaneously (yet still with a shifting weight depending on where you drag). Yeah, I am very aware of that. It's probably a bad habit but it always produced expected results with the old path tool so it's kinda ingrained in me now. I am always aware when I pop out the opposing handle in any meaningful way, but this happens at such a small scale that I never know it till I'm trying to stroke something. I believe the old path tool probably reacted in nearly the same way, but the stroke was never left with these gaps. Again - I have no idea what gaps you are referring to. Maybe a screenshot can help. Hopefully the screenshot will clear it up. It's very easily reproducible by just zooming in all the way and tweak a handle in some odd way the slightest bit. I didn't try to find the worst example, but sometimes it will leave a huge gap unlike the small one in the screenshot. Maybe next time I am rendering I will use my normal workflow and capture the results before going back and repairing it. -- akovia ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Path Tool Annoyances
akovia (akov...@eml.cc) wrote: I don't understand what you mean by gap? Are you saying that having a corner at a node makes edit-stroke path leave gaps? Can you create a screenshot? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93550827/temp/path-nodes.jpg Wow. I don't know what happens there. Gut feeling: buggy cairo... Note that if you drag the path closely to one node, the handle on the opposite node will not be moved. Only a (largeish) area in the middle moves both handles simultaneously (yet still with a shifting weight depending on where you drag). Yeah, I am very aware of that. It's probably a bad habit but it always produced expected results with the old path tool so it's kinda ingrained in me now. I am always aware when I pop out the opposing handle in any meaningful way, but this happens at such a small scale that I never know it till I'm trying to stroke something. note that old path tool is slightly misleading, the only thing that has changed somewhat recently is the way the handles are drawn. Bye, Simon -- si...@budig.de http://simon.budig.de/ ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] CD label help
Alexmac writes: Im using Gimp 2.8 and im looking to make CD labels that i can stick onto a circular CD, the thing is i cant find a template in my GIMP software. Has anyone got any tutorials and how do do this, do i need to import a template or something? I used to do a lot of that, and wrote some scripts to help with it: http://shallowsky.com/software/cdplugins/ and a more general version that uses the glabels database to generate templates from Avery or similar label codes: http://shallowsky.com/software/gimplabels/ Disclaimer: You may get deprecation warnings or other problems -- I haven't used these scripts in years, partly because I stopped using CD labels after I lost some important backup data due to trusting labeled CDs (turns out the adhesive on CD labels makes the CD degrade faster, and I had CDs less than two years old which were completely unreadable) and partly because GIMP's current print plug-in and my HP printer don't cooperate very well on alignment. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Path Tool Annoyances
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014, at 07:05 PM, Simon Budig wrote: akovia (akov...@eml.cc) wrote: I don't understand what you mean by gap? Are you saying that having a corner at a node makes edit-stroke path leave gaps? Can you create a screenshot? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93550827/temp/path-nodes.jpg Wow. I don't know what happens there. Gut feeling: buggy cairo... Note that if you drag the path closely to one node, the handle on the opposite node will not be moved. Only a (largeish) area in the middle moves both handles simultaneously (yet still with a shifting weight depending on where you drag). Yeah, I am very aware of that. It's probably a bad habit but it always produced expected results with the old path tool so it's kinda ingrained in me now. I am always aware when I pop out the opposing handle in any meaningful way, but this happens at such a small scale that I never know it till I'm trying to stroke something. note that old path tool is slightly misleading, the only thing that has changed somewhat recently is the way the handles are drawn. Bye, Simon That makes perfect sense actually. The precision problem of grabbing nodes happened in the old tool/handles as well. If there is anything I can do to help this along I'm happy to try. -- akovia ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list