[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?
Hi, Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge or experience building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is 2.6.1. Some questions I have (for example) are: Do I /really/ have to uninstall the old version...? Any dependency issues (conflicts, etc.) ? Any way to get the (newer) dependencies by means of the terminal? Will I be able to actually do this (i.e.,/ do a working build with this version/)? Thanks much for any pointers. Henry ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Henry W. Peters hwpet...@jamadots.com wrote: Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge or experience building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is 2.6.1. Some questions I have (for example) are: Do I /really/ have to uninstall the old version...? Any dependency issues (conflicts, etc.) ? Any way to get the (newer) dependencies by means of the terminal? Will I be able to actually do this (i.e.,/ do a working build with this version/)? I have 2.6 and 2.8 on the a Mint (like Ubuntu/Debian) system. There's a build script floating around somewhere, but I can't seem to find it now (and it required heavy modification, at least for my system anyway). There's this: http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Hacking:Building/Linux I think the biggest thing to remember is to remember to prefix everything with /opt or /home/YOU/gimp/ - ie *not* put it into /usr or /usr/local/. 'apt-get build-dep gimp' should bring in several -dev packages you'll need. The rest will need to be compiled and installed in /opt or wherever. It's been some months since I went through this - I'm probably forgetting a few things, but the short answer is yes, you can compile and install 2.8 without removing 2.6. There are quite a dew deps to work through, but keep the additions outside of your system path and you should be fine. HTH, Chris ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?
On 12.05.2013 19:36, Henry W. Peters wrote: Thanks much for any pointers. Please don't hijack threads - your mail will appear two levels deep in the thread about changing the PDF file associations for some users. If you want to start a new topic, please compose a new message to the gimp-user-list@gnome.org list mail address (and make sure that you're subscribed). -- Thanks, Michael ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?
Hi Some time ago i tried both compiling Gimp 2.8 on Squeeze, and installing Debian Testing ... to see what's wrong with my attempt to compile Gimp 2.8. To make long thing short - problems with compilation are caused by dependencies of Gimp 2.8 dependencies. At some moment You end up with upgrading gcc and half other system libraries. If only You can install wheezy it should solve most of Your troubles. There is one possible workaround: one user of this mailing list approached similar problem on FreeBSD. Solution was building Gimp and all it's dependencies in jail. This way system was stable and Gimp 2.8 had all needed dependencies inside jail. Unfortunately i can't remember where this instruction was and whether it can be ported to Debian. Dominik 2013/5/12, Chris Mohler cr33...@gmail.com: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Henry W. Peters hwpet...@jamadots.com wrote: Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge or experience building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is 2.6.1. Some questions I have (for example) are: Do I /really/ have to uninstall the old version...? Any dependency issues (conflicts, etc.) ? Any way to get the (newer) dependencies by means of the terminal? Will I be able to actually do this (i.e.,/ do a working build with this version/)? I have 2.6 and 2.8 on the a Mint (like Ubuntu/Debian) system. There's a build script floating around somewhere, but I can't seem to find it now (and it required heavy modification, at least for my system anyway). There's this: http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Hacking:Building/Linux I think the biggest thing to remember is to remember to prefix everything with /opt or /home/YOU/gimp/ - ie *not* put it into /usr or /usr/local/. 'apt-get build-dep gimp' should bring in several -dev packages you'll need. The rest will need to be compiled and installed in /opt or wherever. It's been some months since I went through this - I'm probably forgetting a few things, but the short answer is yes, you can compile and install 2.8 without removing 2.6. There are quite a dew deps to work through, but keep the additions outside of your system path and you should be fine. HTH, Chris ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list -- Dominik Tabisz ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?
Thanks all for your replies ON THIS (as far as I know) NEW THREAD ( Michael, I am a subscriber). It sounds like building 2.8 on Debian Squeeze is a (too) shaky proposition... as I do use it with some regularity, I should probably wait until the Debian packager programmers resolve some of the dependency issues... (?) But I will persist, somehow/way... I should have mentioned earlier, that my only desire is to have a stable/workable version of GIMP... I hesitate to uninstall 2.6.1 because of POSSIBLE issues regarding removals that might damage my system... namely 'gnome-office,' I am just totally in the dark regarding what that piece of software is... but it sounds like something to do w/ the gui of the desktop... (advise appreciated here too). Henry On 05/12/2013 03:14 PM, Dominik Tabisz wrote: Hi Some time ago i tried both compiling Gimp 2.8 on Squeeze, and installing Debian Testing ... to see what's wrong with my attempt to compile Gimp 2.8. To make long thing short - problems with compilation are caused by dependencies of Gimp 2.8 dependencies. At some moment You end up with upgrading gcc and half other system libraries. If only You can install wheezy it should solve most of Your troubles. There is one possible workaround: one user of this mailing list approached similar problem on FreeBSD. Solution was building Gimp and all it's dependencies in jail. This way system was stable and Gimp 2.8 had all needed dependencies inside jail. Unfortunately i can't remember where this instruction was and whether it can be ported to Debian. Dominik 2013/5/12, Chris Mohlercr33...@gmail.com: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Henry W. Petershwpet...@jamadots.com wrote: Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge or experience building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is 2.6.1. Some questions I have (for example) are: Do I /really/ have to uninstall the old version...? Any dependency issues (conflicts, etc.) ? Any way to get the (newer) dependencies by means of the terminal? Will I be able to actually do this (i.e.,/ do a working build with this version/)? I have 2.6 and 2.8 on the a Mint (like Ubuntu/Debian) system. There's a build script floating around somewhere, but I can't seem to find it now (and it required heavy modification, at least for my system anyway). There's this: http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Hacking:Building/Linux I think the biggest thing to remember is to remember to prefix everything with /opt or /home/YOU/gimp/ - ie *not* put it into /usr or /usr/local/. 'apt-get build-dep gimp' should bring in several -dev packages you'll need. The rest will need to be compiled and installed in /opt or wherever. It's been some months since I went through this - I'm probably forgetting a few things, but the short answer is yes, you can compile and install 2.8 without removing 2.6. There are quite a dew deps to work through, but keep the additions outside of your system path and you should be fine. HTH, Chris On 05/12/2013 02:44 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote: Please don't hijack threads - your mail will appear two levels deep in the thread about changing the PDF file associations for some users. If you want to start a new topic, please compose a new message to the gimp-user-list@gnome.org list mail address (and make sure that you're subscribed). -- Thanks, Michael ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?
* Henry W. Peters hwpet...@jamadots.com [05-12-13 15:48]: Thanks all for your replies ON THIS (as far as I know) NEW THREAD ( Michael, I am a subscriber). It sounds like building 2.8 on Debian Squeeze is a (too) shaky proposition... as I do use it with some regularity, I should probably wait until the Debian packager programmers resolve some of the dependency issues... (?) But I will persist, somehow/way... I should have mentioned earlier, that my only desire is to have a stable/workable version of GIMP... I hesitate to uninstall 2.6.1 because of POSSIBLE issues regarding removals that might damage my system... namely 'gnome-office,' I am just totally in the dark regarding what that piece of software is... but it sounds like something to do w/ the gui of the desktop... (advise appreciated here too). Henry On 05/12/2013 03:14 PM, Dominik Tabisz wrote: Hi Some time ago i tried both compiling Gimp 2.8 on Squeeze, and installing Debian Testing ... to see what's wrong with my attempt to compile Gimp 2.8. To make long thing short - problems with compilation are caused by dependencies of Gimp 2.8 dependencies. At some moment You end up with upgrading gcc and half other system libraries. If only You can install wheezy it should solve most of Your troubles. There is one possible workaround: one user of this mailing list approached similar problem on FreeBSD. Solution was building Gimp and all it's dependencies in jail. This way system was stable and Gimp 2.8 had all needed dependencies inside jail. Unfortunately i can't remember where this instruction was and whether it can be ported to Debian. Dominik 2013/5/12, Chris Mohlercr33...@gmail.com: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Henry W. Petershwpet...@jamadots.com wrote: Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge or experience building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is 2.6.1. Some questions I have (for example) are: Do I /really/ have to uninstall the old version...? Any dependency issues (conflicts, etc.) ? Any way to get the (newer) dependencies by means of the terminal? Will I be able to actually do this (i.e.,/ do a working build with this version/)? I have 2.6 and 2.8 on the a Mint (like Ubuntu/Debian) system. There's a build script floating around somewhere, but I can't seem to find it now (and it required heavy modification, at least for my system anyway). There's this: http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Hacking:Building/Linux I think the biggest thing to remember is to remember to prefix everything with /opt or /home/YOU/gimp/ - ie *not* put it into /usr or /usr/local/. 'apt-get build-dep gimp' should bring in several -dev packages you'll need. The rest will need to be compiled and installed in /opt or wherever. It's been some months since I went through this - I'm probably forgetting a few things, but the short answer is yes, you can compile and install 2.8 without removing 2.6. There are quite a dew deps to work through, but keep the additions outside of your system path and you should be fine. HTH, Chris On 05/12/2013 02:44 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote: Please don't hijack threads - your mail will appear two levels deep in the thread about changing the PDF file associations for some users. If you want to start a new topic, please compose a new message to the gimp-user-list@gnome.org list mail address (and make sure that you're subscribed). -- Thanks, Michael But you have not started a *new* thread but merely changed the subject and at that not for this post but several previous to this. You are still hijacking the PDF thread see: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/HijackedThread.jpg -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.orgPhoto Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?
This topic accidently started as reply to '[Gimp-user] PDF' and likes to be continued here. Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 13:36:10 -0400 From: Henry W. Peters Hi, Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge or experience building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is 2.6.1. Some questions I have (for example) are: Do I /really/ have to uninstall the old version...? Any dependency issues (conflicts, etc.) ? Any way to get the (newer) dependencies by means of the terminal? Will I be able to actually do this (i.e.,/ do a working build with this version/)? Thanks much for any pointers. Henry --- Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 13:33:35 -0500 From: Chris Mohler in reply to Henry W. Peters On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Henry W. Peters hwpet...@jamadots.com wrote: Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge or experience building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is 2.6.1. Some questions I have (for example) are: Do I /really/ have to uninstall the old version...? Any dependency issues (conflicts, etc.) ? Any way to get the (newer) dependencies by means of the terminal? Will I be able to actually do this (i.e.,/ do a working build with this version/)? I have 2.6 and 2.8 on the a Mint (like Ubuntu/Debian) system. There's a build script floating around somewhere, but I can't seem to find it now (and it required heavy modification, at least for my system anyway). There's this: http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Hacking:Building/Linux I think the biggest thing to remember is to remember to prefix everything with /opt or /home/YOU/gimp/ - ie *not* put it into /usr or /usr/local/. 'apt-get build-dep gimp' should bring in several -dev packages you'll need. The rest will need to be compiled and installed in /opt or wherever. It's been some months since I went through this - I'm probably forgetting a few things, but the short answer is yes, you can compile and install 2.8 without removing 2.6. There are quite a dew deps to work through, but keep the additions outside of your system path and you should be fine. HTH, Chris --- Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 21:14:21 +0200 From: Dominik Tabisz in reply to Chris Mohler Hi Some time ago i tried both compiling Gimp 2.8 on Squeeze, and installing Debian Testing ... to see what's wrong with my attempt to compile Gimp 2.8. To make long thing short - problems with compilation are caused by dependencies of Gimp 2.8 dependencies. At some moment You end up with upgrading gcc and half other system libraries. If only You can install wheezy it should solve most of Your troubles. There is one possible workaround: one user of this mailing list approached similar problem on FreeBSD. Solution was building Gimp and all it's dependencies in jail. This way system was stable and Gimp 2.8 had all needed dependencies inside jail. Unfortunately i can't remember where this instruction was and whether it can be ported to Debian. Dominik --- Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 15:48:00 -0400 From: Henry W. Peters in reply to Dominik Tabisz Thanks all for your replies ON THIS (as far as I know) NEW THREAD ( Michael, I am a subscriber). It sounds like building 2.8 on Debian Squeeze is a (too) shaky proposition... as I do use it with some regularity, I should probably wait until the Debian packager programmers resolve some of the dependency issues... (?) But I will persist, somehow/way... I should have mentioned earlier, that my only desire is to have a stable/workable version of GIMP... I hesitate to uninstall 2.6.1 because of POSSIBLE issues regarding removals that might damage my system... namely 'gnome-office,' I am just totally in the dark regarding what that piece of software is... but it sounds like something to do w/ the gui of the desktop... (advise appreciated here too). Henry ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?
This topic accidently started as reply to '[Gimp-user] PDF' and likes to be continued here. Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 13:36:10 -0400 From: Henry W. Peters Hi, Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge or experience building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is 2.6.1. Some questions I have (for example) are: Do I /really/ have to uninstall the old version...? Any dependency issues (conflicts, etc.) ? Any way to get the (newer) dependencies by means of the terminal? Will I be able to actually do this (i.e.,/ do a working build with this version/)? Thanks much for any pointers. You can build any number of gimps independent of each other. First you need to understand that when you build something, it goes hunting for libraries in a path specified by your environment. So first thing to do is set the environment path for your console. Do all your building out of the same console where these environment variables have been set. export PATH=/build_dir/gimp-2.8/bin:$PATH export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/build_dir/gimp-2.8/lib/pkgconfig export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/build_dir/gimp-2.8/lib Now cd into your source directory and ./configure --PREFIX=/build_dir Configure may fail, READ the message on failure. If it tells you that gegl is the wrong version, download babl and gegl and then build babl first, then gegl using ./configure --PREFIX=/build_dir Run configure again from your gimp source, now if it tells you that GTK is the wrong version, download the latest glib, gtk, atk, gtk-pixbuf and pango and build them, again with ./configure --PREFIX=/build_dir Actually if you follow this tutorial, http://www.gimpusers.com/tutorials/compiling-gimp-for-ubuntu you could build the git version but would not recommend that, but rather apply the principles to the source code. And when you finish, start the program from the console; # /build_dir/bin/gimp-2.x Note also that the build_dir should not be /usr/local but rather something like ~/user/gimp-2.x -- Owen ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?
tl;dr - see http://azul.m.iguel.net/Blog/?entrada=73 On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 09:06 +1000, Owen wrote: From: Henry W. Peters Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge or experience building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is 2.6.1. You can build any number of gimps independent of each other. The real issue is that Debian Squeeze is going to be too out of date to make this easy. For example, it has libgtk2.0-0 2.20.1-2, whereas gimp I think needs 2.24 or later. The included version of gimp is 2.6.10. At a guess Henry will need to build . gimp . gegl . babl . pango . gtk2 . gdk2 . atk . gtk-pixbuf . harfbuzz (I think) . cairo . pixman . glib Probably a new autoconf will be needed, and likely a new gcc, libc, and more. Compare . http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/gimp . http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/gimp The tutorial for ubuntu would work with a newer Debian release. However, http://azul.m.iguel.net/Blog/?entrada=73 has instructions for building gimp 2.8 on Squeeze. Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/ Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org freenode/#xml ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
