Re: [Gimp-user] Save v Export behaviour

2014-04-15 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:49 AM, VintageGimp wrote: > I can't get over the unpleasant feeling that the prime > motivator for this stupidity is a desire to force the establishment of XCF as > a > universal format for images The only file format we are pushing to become universal is called OpenRas

[Gimp-user] Save v Export behaviour

2014-04-15 Thread VintageGimp
>The Save menu item you want back didn't ask for confirmation after the >first time either. You are missing my point. The problem is that the "save" option is now next to the [export] option - when it has been my intention to "export" to a new file I have on several occassions clicked [overwrite]

[Gimp-user] Save v Export behaviour

2014-04-15 Thread VintageGimp
>The only file format we are pushing to become universal is called >OpenRaster, and we are not doing it hard enough (fortunately, the >MyPaint's team does). Then why insisit on allowing users to save their files only in one single proprietary format? >I don't see the point in commenting on the re

Re: [Gimp-user] Save v Export behaviour

2014-04-15 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:55 PM, VintageGimp wrote: >>The only file format we are pushing to become universal is called >>OpenRaster, and we are not doing it hard enough (fortunately, the >>MyPaint's team does). > > Then why insisit on allowing users to save their files only in one single > propri

[Gimp-user] Save v Export behaviour

2014-04-15 Thread VintageGimp
>This is simply false. You're right, it doesn't "make it necessary", it only strongly encourages it. -- VintageGimp (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.

[Gimp-user] Save v Export behaviour

2014-04-15 Thread VintageGimp
>I have no slightest intention disproving anything for you. You did not >come to talk and listen here, you came to have an argument. I will not >tolerate that. I came to complain - both at what I and many others view as a stupid design decision, and the boneheaded attitude of (some of) the develo

[Gimp-user] Save v Export behaviour

2014-04-15 Thread VintageGimp
>XCF is not proprietary. It's open, documented, and supported by 3rd >party software. Surely you are jesting? There are NO other editing applications capable of fully using this format. None. Zip. Zero. It may be open and documented (which is great) - but 3rd party support is still woefully lackin

Re: [Gimp-user] Save v Export behaviour

2014-04-15 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:46 PM, VintageGimp wrote: > Perhaps "proprietary" is not the right word here Only "perhaps"? Since you are referencing to Wikipedia as a credible source, let's use it again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprietary_format A proprietary format is a file format of a co

[Gimp-user] Save v Export behaviour

2014-04-15 Thread VintageGimp
>None of that applies to XCF. Simply put, you are using words that you >don't even understand the meaning of. Yes, I used "proprietary" incorrectly, my apologies. My point was that XCF is a poorly supported file format - a point which I think was quite clear despite the mistake. >Mailing lists a

Re: [Gimp-user] Save v Export behaviour

2014-04-15 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
I had started a reply on some roadmaps ideas we had discussed on the save/export behavior over the past face to face developer meeting. Since the thread degenerated into a "gimp developers are stupid" thing yet again, I will refrain from posting what we have talked about and is proposed to the (po

Re: [Gimp-user] Save v Export behaviour

2014-04-15 Thread Tobias Jakobs
2014-04-15 13:30 GMT+02:00 VintageGimp : > I use > Linux exclusively for _everything_ else, and have found many great FOSS > applications to replace the closed source Windows equivalents I used for > almost > two decades - Inkscape is one good example, which I now actually _prefer_ > over > Illust

Re: [Gimp-user] Save v Export behaviour

2014-04-15 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 10:57 -0300, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: > Ad-hominem attacks will > certainly be addressed by that. A difficulty is that people often wait until they are very frustrated before complaining. Sometimes it sounds like a small child, "waaah i have to press control-e or control-shif

Re: [Gimp-user] Save v Export behaviour

2014-04-15 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: > Now what becomes relevant here instead is that one other thing we've > talked about in the meeting is the need of > a code of conduct to places of discussing GIMP, that will access > proper behavior in discussion forums That sounds a bit

Re: [Gimp-user] Floating windows

2014-04-15 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 11:22 -0400, akovia wrote: > I know this has been talked about before and has been asked to remember > position of all the popup windows, but has anyone ever suggested having > them docked instead? Go to the Window menu and enable Single Window mode? Liam -- Liam Quin - X

[Gimp-user] CRASHING!!

2014-04-15 Thread MrsWilson
>And if you obtained Gimp 2.8.10 from my website, please provide the >logfile >(on Windows 7 its >C:\Users\yourusername\Appdata\Local\Temp\__gimp-2.8-run.log) to me. > >Thanks, >Partha yes i got the program from your website. the error message im getting now is (gimp-2.8.exe:2668): GLib-ERROR

[Gimp-user] CRASHING!!

2014-04-15 Thread MrsWilson
>And if you obtained Gimp 2.8.10 from my website, please provide the >logfile >(on Windows 7 its >C:\Users\yourusername\Appdata\Local\Temp\__gimp-2.8-run.log) to me. > >Thanks, >Partha i have also recieved the message while the program closed.This application has requested the Runtime to term

[Gimp-user] CRASHING!!

2014-04-15 Thread MrsWilson
>yes i got the program from your website. the error message im getting >now is (gimp-2.8.exe:2668): GLib-ERROR**:gmem.c:165:failed to >allocate 12582912 bytes >the program wont even load. i have done the reinstall and now im gettin another code and its still not opening. (gimp-2.8.exe:1000): G

[Gimp-user] CRASHING!!

2014-04-15 Thread MrsWilson
>And if you obtained Gimp 2.8.10 from my website, please provide the >logfile >(on Windows 7 its >C:\Users\yourusername\Appdata\Local\Temp\__gimp-2.8-run.log) to me. > >Thanks, >Partha not exactly sure how to get the link to the file you are requesting -- MrsWilson (via www.gimpusers.com/forums

Re: [Gimp-user] CRASHING!!

2014-04-15 Thread Sam Gleske
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:31 PM, MrsWilson wrote: > not exactly sure how to get the link to the file you are requesting 1. Click on start, in the start search menu type "run" without quotes. 2. With the Run dialog open type in "%TMP%" and press enter (without quotes). 3. You should now be in th

[Gimp-user] CRASHING!!

2014-04-15 Thread MrsWilson
>1. Click on start, in the start search menu type "run" without quotes. >2. With the Run dialog open type in "%TMP%" and press enter (without >quotes). >3. You should now be in the folder Partha described and there should >be a >file called __gimp-2.8-run.log. > >SAM ive done what you have sugge

Re: [Gimp-user] CRASHING!!

2014-04-15 Thread Partha Bagchi
This means that you don't have enough RAM to run Gimp. It's not able to allocated enough memory to run Gimp On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:26 PM, MrsWilson wrote: > >And if you obtained Gimp 2.8.10 from my website, please provide the > >logfile > >(on Windows 7 its > >C:\Users\yourusername\Appdata\L

Re: [Gimp-user] Save v Export behaviour

2014-04-15 Thread Richard
> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 12:46:21 +0200 > From: for...@gimpusers.com > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > CC: t...@gimpusers.com > Subject: [Gimp-user] Save v Export behaviour > > >The Save menu item you want back didn't ask for confirmation after the > >first time either. > > You are missing my poin