Re: [Gimp-user] moving parf of an image

2014-07-24 Thread JLuc

Le 19/07/2014 21:13, Akkana Peck a écrit :

It works for me only if I switch to the Move tool. So:

- Make selection with rect select (or whatever)o

- Ctrl-Alt-Drag the selection (this automatically makes a floating
   layer of it).

Yeah !


- Switch to the Move tool (the floating layer is still there).
- Adjust position with arrow keys.


For simple purpose, draging is enough + CTRL+H afterward.


Out of curiosity, why do you need to move something and leave a hole
where it used to be? I know a lot of people want it, and I've always
been curious what they're editing that makes this a useful operation.


There are lots of usecase where the background is plain white
or plain transparent or monocolor space
and its nice to be able to simply move some element
inside this blank space.

JLuc

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Re: [Gimp-user] moving parf of an image

2014-07-19 Thread Akkana Peck
> >On 17/lug/2014, at 10:31, Ofnuts  wrote:
> >>Actually in many tools, right after you have made your selection, you can 
> >>depress Alt+Control and drag the selected part to a new location. But... 
> >>you need a strong hand because you cannot adjust the position

> On 17/07/14 10:49, Maurizio Loreti wrote:
> >In case like this, you can drag your selection using the arrow keys (that 
> >move one pixel at a time) if you need a stronger control...

Ofnuts writes:
> Doesn't work for me... this doesn't work exactly like the Move tool it
> seems.

It works for me only if I switch to the Move tool. So:

- Make selection with rect select (or whatever)o

- Ctrl-Alt-Drag the selection (this automatically makes a floating
  layer of it).

- Switch to the Move tool (the floating layer is still there).

- Adjust position with arrow keys.

Out of curiosity, why do you need to move something and leave a hole
where it used to be? I know a lot of people want it, and I've always
been curious what they're editing that makes this a useful operation.

...Akkana
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Re: [Gimp-user] moving parf of an image

2014-07-17 Thread Burnie West

On 07/16/2014 11:07 AM, JLuc wrote:

Le 16/07/2014 19:41, Burnie West a écrit :

If I understand your question correctly, my answer is "probably not."
But I do not understand what you mean by "anchor it back to where it belongs 
to".
Do you mean you want a part of your image copied over on top of another part 
of your image (or maybe onto another

image), while the original selected location remains unchanged?
In that case, you select and copy, rather than select and cut, and paste.


No, i mean change its position in the same layer,
without duplication in final work
(hence, original selected location changes also)
JLuc
I imagine you may have created an image using several small sketches, and 
perhaps you wish to have one of the sketches in another place.
If it is your intent to move one or another of the sketches, then perhaps it is 
best to put each sketch in a single layer. Then you can move each sketch 
independently of all the others, and the entire group of layers will print to 
your "final work" (perhaps a png or jpg image). Layers are not intended to be 
"final works."


You can create one or more groups of layers in your overall image for this kind 
of activity.


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Re: [Gimp-user] moving parf of an image

2014-07-17 Thread Ofnuts

On 17/07/14 10:49, Maurizio Loreti wrote:

On 17/lug/2014, at 10:31, Ofnuts  wrote:


On 17/07/14 00:14, akovia wrote:

What is easier than cut and paste? I'm not sure I can envision anything
simpler.

Actually in many tools, right after you have made your selection, you can 
depress Alt+Control and drag the selected part to a new location. But... you 
need a strong hand because you cannot adjust the position

In case like this, you can drag your selection using the arrow keys (that move 
one pixel at a time) if you need a stronger control...



Doesn't work for me... this doesn't work exactly like the Move tool it 
seems.

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Re: [Gimp-user] moving parf of an image

2014-07-17 Thread Maurizio Loreti
On 17/lug/2014, at 10:31, Ofnuts  wrote:

> On 17/07/14 00:14, akovia wrote:
>> What is easier than cut and paste? I'm not sure I can envision anything
>> simpler.
> 
> Actually in many tools, right after you have made your selection, you can 
> depress Alt+Control and drag the selected part to a new location. But... you 
> need a strong hand because you cannot adjust the position

In case like this, you can drag your selection using the arrow keys (that move 
one pixel at a time) if you need a stronger control...

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Re: [Gimp-user] moving parf of an image

2014-07-17 Thread Ofnuts

On 17/07/14 00:14, akovia wrote:

What is easier than cut and paste? I'm not sure I can envision anything
simpler.


Actually in many tools, right after you have made your selection, you 
can depress Alt+Control and drag the selected part to a new location. 
But... you need a strong hand because you cannot adjust the position, 
and this is usable only for the  simplest cases. The copy/paste method 
isn't much more complicated and cover many more usage scenarios.

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Re: [Gimp-user] moving parf of an image

2014-07-16 Thread akovia
What is easier than cut and paste? I'm not sure I can envision anything
simpler.

The one thing I do is anchor the floating selection on a separate new
layer by hitting the new layer button. Then I can move it around and
modify it at will without committing it back to the original layer. When
I'm happy with it, I could either flatten the image, or just merge down,
but usually I just leave it on it's own layer and export in the format I
want so I can go back and make changes later if I like inside the xcf.

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014, at 02:07 PM, JLuc wrote:
> Le 16/07/2014 19:41, Burnie West a écrit :
> > If I understand your question correctly, my answer is "probably not."
> > But I do not understand what you mean by "anchor it back to where it 
> > belongs to".
> > Do you mean you want a part of your image copied over on top of another 
> > part of your image (or maybe onto another
> > image), while the original selected location remains unchanged?
> > In that case, you select and copy, rather than select and cut, and paste.
> 
> No, i mean change its position in the same layer,
> without duplication in final work
> (hence, original selected location changes also)
> JLuc
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] moving parf of an image

2014-07-16 Thread JLuc

Le 16/07/2014 19:41, Burnie West a écrit :

If I understand your question correctly, my answer is "probably not."
But I do not understand what you mean by "anchor it back to where it belongs 
to".
Do you mean you want a part of your image copied over on top of another part of 
your image (or maybe onto another
image), while the original selected location remains unchanged?
In that case, you select and copy, rather than select and cut, and paste.


No, i mean change its position in the same layer,
without duplication in final work
(hence, original selected location changes also)
JLuc


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Re: [Gimp-user] moving parf of an image

2014-07-16 Thread Burnie West

On 07/16/2014 10:19 AM, JLuc wrote:

'o

i'm getting used to gimp
but something still keeps me wondering "am i doing right ?" :
its how i move part of an image :
i select the part i wanna move (using any of the select tools),
cut and paste it in the floating selection layer,
move it (and possibly do other transforms),
and anchor it back to where it belongs to.

Is there some simpler way i'm not aware of,
for example without cut'n'pasting,
when all i wanna do is moving part of an image ?

If I understand your question correctly, my answer is "probably not."

But I do not understand what you mean by "anchor it back to where it belongs 
to".

Do you mean you want a part of your image copied over on top of another part of 
your image (or maybe onto another image), while the original selected location 
remains unchanged?


In that case, you select and copy, rather than select and cut, and paste.
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[Gimp-user] moving parf of an image

2014-07-16 Thread JLuc

'o

i'm getting used to gimp
but something still keeps me wondering "am i doing right ?" :
its how i move part of an image :
i select the part i wanna move (using any of the select tools),
cut and paste it in the floating selection layer,
move it (and possibly do other transforms),
and anchor it back to where it belongs to.

Is there some simpler way i'm not aware of,
for example without cut'n'pasting,
when all i wanna do is moving part of an image ?

JLuc


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