Re: [Gimp-user] Creating more natural/traditional appearance effects?
:) lol ben i gave almost exactly the same advice although i did not have the url for angelas site handy. Your sister is truly a wonderful and talented artist and her work with the gimp is the most realistic i have ever seen. cheers Vos "In real life, the hardest aspect of the battle between good and evil. is determining which is which." George RR Martin ___ Get 100% private, FREE email for life from Excite UK Visit http://inbox.excite.co.uk/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Creating more natural/traditional appearance effects?
Hi, I can't give you any tips personally because I have the approximate artistic talent of a mossy rock, however, my sister Angela is quite good--in my perhaps biased opinion. She has a site called the "Blue Cardinal Galleries" at http://angela.newcreature.org, where she divided her works into a gallery of traditional art, and one of digital art. BTW, her galleries are automatically generated by a python script I wrote which imitates the gPhoto (http://www.gphoto.org) gallery generator with the added benefit of being able to add titles to each of the images. It uses gPhoto template files, so you can use the default gallery themes or create your own (as Angela has done). If anyone is interested, I can put it on the web for download. Regards, Ben Logan -- When Linux won't install on some hardware configuration, it means you you need to switch to Windoze; but when a M$ product won't install, it means you need to buy a new computer. On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 11:16:21AM -0400, Roy Wood wrote: > I've been looking, but haven't really found anything definitive on this, > so I'm going to ask everyone here for some advice. > > I'm working on some illustrations, and am not entirely satisfied with the > fact that they look very artificial and computer-generated. Does anyone > have any suggestions on ways of working with the gimp to produce artwork > that is more "natural" looking? I'm particularly thinking of things like > adding paper texture, making the ink/paint look less perfect or precise, > etc. I guess the look I'm thinking of is more of gouache and watercolour. > > I know the Gimpressionist can do a lot, and might be just the ticket, but > I haven't found a lot of great tutorials or documentation about it, and > my tinkering so far has been a lot of fun, but hasn't quite produced the > results I'm looking for. > > So, does anyone have some hints to get me going in the right direction on > this? I'd really be grateful. ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Creating more natural/traditional appearance effects?
I dont know how realistic ( or what is even considered realistic) but at gug.sunsite.dk there is an artist Angela Logan who is both a traditional and graphic artist. Her art is amazing and done in her own words ...with a mouse and simple brushes...and smudge tool. You could check it out she also has a web site and contact info. Hope it helps you along your way :) cheers VosVuur "In real life, the hardest aspect of the battle between good and evil. is determining which is which." George RR Martin ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Creating more natural/traditional appearance effects?
>Well, as I was explaining to someone just yesterday, there is still >nothing like a pen, pencil or brush. When I want realistic artwork, I do >it by hand. Then digicam or scan it, and then retouch, colour, add text or >intensify features with the gimp and my wacom tablent, or ordinary mouse. Yeah-- I'm happiest with starting with a hand-drawn sketch and then using the gimp for colouring it. Unfortunately, the results still seem too artificial for my liking. >http://www.katewerk.com/shikari/shikari.jpg >http://www.katewerk.com/summerset/summerset2_color.jpg Wow-- very nice. Presumably you did the artwork by hand, scanned it, retouched/coloured it via gimp, and added the text, right? Again, very nice. >Perhaps I'm biased - I once worked at a sign company that invested in a >computer design and layout system that literally doubled manufacturing >time over that of the previous manual design/opaque projector technique. :-) I work as a programmer, and I'm quite convinced that computers usually do not save time -Roy ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Creating more natural/traditional appearance effects?
>If you're creating stuff from scratch, there's nothing like a graphics >tablet. I've got a 6x8 Intuos USB, and I've really enjoyed working with >it. The pressure sensitivity is good enough that many of the tools draw >much like the real thing, just with a perfect eraser and unlimited undo. Yeah-- I'm quite fond of my Wacom too. >http://www.nightdrivers.com/~samjones/images/ Nice. I like the sorcerer and the "work" one. Did I miss it, or do you not have any examples of your cross-hatching filter on there? -Roy ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Creating more natural/traditional appearance effects?
On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Sam Jones wrote: > > I'm working on some illustrations, and am not entirely satisfied with the > > fact that they look very artificial and computer-generated. Does anyone > > I'm a big fan of a rough hand-drawn look. One thing I did that I'm > halfway happy with is a crosshatch filter I made for GIMP with > gimp-perl. It doesn't always create a believable cross-hatch effect. It > depends on the subject and the settings. > > If you're creating stuff from scratch, there's nothing like a graphics > tablet. [snip] Well, as I was explaining to someone just yesterday, there is still nothing like a pen, pencil or brush. When I want realistic artwork, I do it by hand. Then digicam or scan it, and then retouch, colour, add text or intensify features with the gimp and my wacom tablent, or ordinary mouse. ie: http://www.katewerk.com/shikari/shikari.jpg http://www.katewerk.com/summerset/summerset2_color.jpg Using the tools for their own sake was fun for awhile, but when the novelty wore off and frustration set in, I went to a mix of hand and computer techniques. Perhaps I'm biased - I once worked at a sign company that invested in a computer design and layout system that literally doubled manufacturing time over that of the previous manual design/opaque projector technique. -- Kate http://www.katewerk.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Creating more natural/traditional appearance effects?
> I'm working on some illustrations, and am not entirely satisfied with the
> fact that they look very artificial and computer-generated. Does anyone
> have any suggestions on ways of working with the gimp to produce artwork
> that is more "natural" looking? I'm particularly thinking of things like
> adding paper texture, making the ink/paint look less perfect or precise,
> etc. I guess the look I'm thinking of is more of gouache and watercolour.
I'm a big fan of a rough hand-drawn look. One thing I did that I'm
halfway happy with is a crosshatch filter I made for GIMP with
gimp-perl. It doesn't always create a believable cross-hatch effect. It
depends on the subject and the settings.
If you're creating stuff from scratch, there's nothing like a graphics
tablet. I've got a 6x8 Intuos USB, and I've really enjoyed working with
it. The pressure sensitivity is good enough that many of the tools draw
much like the real thing, just with a perfect eraser and unlimited undo.
I keep a sketchpad online at
http://www.nightdrivers.com/~samjones/images/
It's not high art, but I think it shows how tools can behave like pen,
pencil or brush.
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use Gimp ":auto";
use Gimp::Fu;
sub pencil_crosshatch {
# Grab the image this routine modifies
my ($image,$drawable,$darkness,$trace_threshold,$trace_brush) = @_;
# Grab tracable area for later use
gimp_by_color_select($drawable,[0,0,0],$trace_threshold,2,0,0,0,0);
plug_in_sel2path($image,$drawable);
gimp_selection_none($image);
# NE Stroke is a layer handling the crosshatch going NE-SW
my $ne_stroke = gimp_layer_new($image,$image->width,$image->height,
$drawable->type,"NE Stroke",100,0);
# Add a layer onto image
$image->add_layer($ne_stroke,-1);
gimp_palette_set_background([255,255,255]);
gimp_edit_fill($ne_stroke,BG_IMAGE_FILL);
plug_in_noisify($image,$ne_stroke,0,.5,.5,.5,0);
plug_in_mblur($image,$ne_stroke,0,5,135);
# NW Stroke is a layer handling the crosshatch going NW-SE
my $nw_stroke = gimp_layer_new($image,$image->width,$image->height,
$drawable->type,"NW Stroke",100,3);
# Add a layer onto image
$image->add_layer($nw_stroke,-1);
gimp_palette_set_background([255,255,255]);
gimp_edit_fill($nw_stroke,BG_IMAGE_FILL);
plug_in_noisify($image,$nw_stroke,0,.5,.5,.5,0);
plug_in_mblur($image,$nw_stroke,0,5,45);
my $cross_layer = $image->merge_down($nw_stroke,1);
$cross_layer->set_mode(4);
# Use Darkness Parameter
gimp_levels($cross_layer,0,32*($darkness-1),255,1,0,255);
# Add in traced outline
# Trace is a layer handling a traced outline of the image.
my $outline = gimp_layer_new($image,$image->width,$image->height,
$drawable->type,"traced outline",100,3);
# Add a layer onto image
$image->add_layer($outline,-1);
gimp_palette_set_background([255,255,255]);
gimp_edit_fill($outline,BG_IMAGE_FILL);
gimp_brushes_set_brush($trace_brush);
gimp_path_stroke_current($image);
}
register "crosshatch","Makes image appear to have been drawn in pencil with" .
" crosshatch","pencil crosshatch","Sam Jones","Sam Jones","2001-16-04",
"/Filters/Artistic/Crosshatch","RGB*,GRAY*",[
[PF_SLIDER, "darkness", "Sketch Darkness",1,[1,9,1]],
[PF_SLIDER, "trace_threshold", "Trace Threshold",40,[1,255,1]],
[PF_BRUSH, "trace_brush", "Trace Brush","9x9cross"]
],\&pencil_crosshatch;
exit main();
[Gimp-user] Creating more natural/traditional appearance effects?
I've been looking, but haven't really found anything definitive on this, so I'm going to ask everyone here for some advice. I'm working on some illustrations, and am not entirely satisfied with the fact that they look very artificial and computer-generated. Does anyone have any suggestions on ways of working with the gimp to produce artwork that is more "natural" looking? I'm particularly thinking of things like adding paper texture, making the ink/paint look less perfect or precise, etc. I guess the look I'm thinking of is more of gouache and watercolour. I know the Gimpressionist can do a lot, and might be just the ticket, but I haven't found a lot of great tutorials or documentation about it, and my tinkering so far has been a lot of fun, but hasn't quite produced the results I'm looking for. So, does anyone have some hints to get me going in the right direction on this? I'd really be grateful. -Roy ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
