Re: [Gimp-user] gimp 2.0 woes - screenshots, text, and interface
> Maybe I'll just switch window managers whenever I want to take a > screenshot. > D'oh! Is not it faster and easier to take a screenshot of the whole sreen and crop the result? You will have the screenshot loaded on the GIMP not on some dummy viewer after all. > Kinda sucks to have to do that. But if I were on Windows facing > the same conundrum, it would be kinda hard to switch explorer.exe > with another GUI shell. Man, even when stuff goes wrong on > GNU/Linux, there never seems to be any dead ends. I always seem to > find a way around any problem... ;-) > > Thanks! > Pete Regards, Joao ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp 2.0 woes - screenshots, text, and interface
Hi, Carol Spears wrote: > long ago, gimp got its screenshots via xwd. i have no idea if this is > still the case, however, i wonder if xwd works on sarge enlightenment. No, brix fixed this in 1.3.x. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary, Lyon, France E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CV: http://dneary.free.fr/CV/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp 2.0 woes - screenshots, text, and interface
On Wed 22 Dec 04, 8:10 PM, Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 09:51:53PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > > Turns out that single window screenshots work on twm. Must be some kind > > of wierd interaction between enlightenment and gimp. So I'm going to > > guess that rebuilding from source isn't going work. > > long ago, gimp got its screenshots via xwd. i have no idea if this is > still the case, however, i wonder if xwd works on sarge enlightenment. > > carol Heh. Screenshots to standard out. Love it! :) Turns out that xwd didn't work, HOWEVER, playing around with it revealed something really curious. At first it just gave me a black thumbnail looking thing. I then switched over to the first virtual screen (I have 8 screens total) and it worked great. xwud and gimp both showed perfect single window screenshots. I then did the same thing with gimp, and by Zeus, it worked. So it appears that gimp and xwd screenshots work on the first virtual desktop. Doesn't work on any additional desktops (I think Enlightenment comes with 2 by default as shipped with Debian). Each virtual desktop has 2 "screens". OK. Problem solved. Thank you very much for suggesting that. I don't think I would've found that if you hadn't made that suggestion. And it makes it perfectly clear what package deserves the bug report. :) Now I'll just sit back and let Google index this thread for future generations. :) Thanks, Carol. You're awesome! Pete -- The mathematics of physics has become ever more abstract, rather than more complicated. The mind of God appears to be abstract but not complicated. He also appears to like group theory. -- Tony Zee's "Fearful Symmetry" GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp 2.0 woes - screenshots, text, and interface
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 09:51:53PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > Turns out that single window screenshots work on twm. Must be some kind of > wierd interaction between enlightenment and gimp. So I'm going to guess that > rebuilding from source isn't going work. > long ago, gimp got its screenshots via xwd. i have no idea if this is still the case, however, i wonder if xwd works on sarge enlightenment. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp 2.0 woes - screenshots, text, and interface
On Wed 22 Dec 04, 6:31 PM, Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:11:39PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > On Wed 22 Dec 04, 4:42 PM, Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 06:30:05PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I'm on Debian woody (testing), using gimp 2.0.6 with the enlightenment > > > > window manager (no GNOME/KDE) and have a few problems. > > > > > > > first of all, testing is Debian sarge. it is worth it to upgrade. > > > > Hrrrmm. Sorry. Right before posting, I had *just* sent an update to the > > Debian Jigdo HOWTO, and the last topic I wrote about was jigdo on Woody. I > > had Woody on the brain. :) > > > > I run Debian testing. Sarge. > > > i am running sarge. iirc, it is fairly easy to build the new tarball on > sarge. it has been fairly easy up until recently to build the cvs > version and the lack of ease is not debians fault. > > easy and fun, depending on how you define fun. Coolness. I like fun. ;-) Turns out that single window screenshots work on twm. Must be some kind of wierd interaction between enlightenment and gimp. So I'm going to guess that rebuilding from source isn't going work. I don't see any bug reports under gimp or enlightenment on this issue. Wouldn't even know which package to file a bug report on. *sigh*. Maybe I'll just switch window managers whenever I want to take a screenshot. Kinda sucks to have to do that. But if I were on Windows facing the same conundrum, it would be kinda hard to switch explorer.exe with another GUI shell. Man, even when stuff goes wrong on GNU/Linux, there never seems to be any dead ends. I always seem to find a way around any problem... ;-) Thanks! Pete -- The mathematics of physics has become ever more abstract, rather than more complicated. The mind of God appears to be abstract but not complicated. He also appears to like group theory. -- Tony Zee's "Fearful Symmetry" GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp 2.0 woes - screenshots, text, and interface
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:11:39PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > On Wed 22 Dec 04, 4:42 PM, Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 06:30:05PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'm on Debian woody (testing), using gimp 2.0.6 with the enlightenment > > > window manager (no GNOME/KDE) and have a few problems. > > > > > first of all, testing is Debian sarge. it is worth it to upgrade. > > Hrrrmm. Sorry. Right before posting, I had *just* sent an update to the > Debian Jigdo HOWTO, and the last topic I wrote about was jigdo on Woody. I > had Woody on the brain. :) > > I run Debian testing. Sarge. > i am running sarge. iirc, it is fairly easy to build the new tarball on sarge. it has been fairly easy up until recently to build the cvs version and the lack of ease is not debians fault. easy and fun, depending on how you define fun. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp 2.0 woes - screenshots, text, and interface
On Wed 22 Dec 04, 4:42 PM, Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 06:30:05PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm on Debian woody (testing), using gimp 2.0.6 with the enlightenment > > window manager (no GNOME/KDE) and have a few problems. > > > first of all, testing is Debian sarge. it is worth it to upgrade. Hrrrmm. Sorry. Right before posting, I had *just* sent an update to the Debian Jigdo HOWTO, and the last topic I wrote about was jigdo on Woody. I had Woody on the brain. :) I run Debian testing. Sarge. > > 1. I can't take single window screenshots. Everything looks the same as > > with > >gimp 1.3. I click on "Acquire | Screenshot" and make sure that "a Single > >Window" is checked. > > i guess this is some argument between gimp and enlightenment. i also > guess that both of these are old as well. Not really. Gimp, as I said above, is 2.0.6. Woody and sarge happen to have enlightenment packages with the same order versiontude. I could try 2.2.x from Sid. > the quickest (also the dirtiest) way to fix all this: > > 1) apt-get remove gimp > 2) change your debian sources. everywhere it says "woody" make it say > "testing" > 3) apt-get update > 4) apt-get install gimp > > then to undo it and keep everything on your computer the same continue > with: > 5) change the debian sources back so that it says woody > 6) apt-get update > > and some sort of ethical thing makes me need to note here that this is a > terrible way to run your computer! I would certainly agree with you! It IS a terrible way to mix and match packages. Apt-get pinning is a far superior way of doing this! I'll try running twm and see if that works. I'm guessing that everyone knows how to talk to twm. Thanks! Pete -- The mathematics of physics has become ever more abstract, rather than more complicated. The mind of God appears to be abstract but not complicated. He also appears to like group theory. -- Tony Zee's "Fearful Symmetry" GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp 2.0 woes - screenshots, text, and interface
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 06:30:05PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm on Debian woody (testing), using gimp 2.0.6 with the enlightenment window > manager (no GNOME/KDE) and have a few problems. > first of all, testing is Debian sarge. it is worth it to upgrade. > 1. I can't take single window screenshots. Everything looks the same as with >gimp 1.3. I click on "Acquire | Screenshot" and make sure that "a Single >Window" is checked. > i guess this is some argument between gimp and enlightenment. i also guess that both of these are old as well. there have been many agreements about what desktop things get named and passed back and forth since woody was testing. >What's going on? I can't believe that single window screenshots work for >the rest of the world, but not for me :) > if you are alone it is because you are the only person at this moment running gimp 2.0 on enlightenment on woody. you might be alone there. please do not take this as pressure to change what you are doing, however. > 2. How do you move text? Once I lay down text onto an image, I can't seem >to move it around in the image like I could with gimp1.2. It's almost >like the text is not on the image, but I can see it on the image. > you move it with the move tool still. the default action is to only move it if you are touching non alpha pixels thought. make sure the correct layer is highlighted in the layers dialog and zoom in if necessary to grap ahold of painted pixels. or fiddle with some of the things in Dialogs -->Tool Options. you can move it, it just might not be easy or done the same way. > 3. GNOME2 is ugly. And it's significantly slower than GNOME1.2. Is there >any way to get the GNOME1 interface back? > ask more questions like this and they will force you to shutup until you read the HIG like they did me. if you do not find this interface attractive or intuitive, tell it to the HIG! > The mathematics of physics has become ever more abstract, rather than more > complicated. The mind of God appears to be abstract but not complicated. > He also appears to like group theory. -- Tony Zee's "Fearful Symmetry" > the quickest (also the dirtiest) way to fix all this: 1) apt-get remove gimp 2) change your debian sources. everywhere it says "woody" make it say "testing" 3) apt-get update 4) apt-get install gimp then to undo it and keep everything on your computer the same continue with: 5) change the debian sources back so that it says woody 6) apt-get update and some sort of ethical thing makes me need to note here that this is a terrible way to run your computer! happy gimping, carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
