Re: [Gimp-user] plugins for photographers

2007-01-23 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Alexander Rabtchevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say:
| 3. refocus (do not mix with refocus-it) plugin to add natural sharpness 
| to images (it uses other technique than sharpening).

Hmm. The 0.9.0 release seems to be from 2003 and doesn't compile with
GIMP 2.2.13. Is there a more recent version?

Making all in src
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/refocus-0.9.0/src'
gcc -DPACKAGE=\refocus\ -DVERSION=\0.9.0\ -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_ERF=1  
-I. -I.  -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include 
-I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 
-I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include   -I/usr/include/gimp-2.0 
-I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 
-I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I ../lib-Wall -ansi -pedantic -ggdb 
-fomit-frame-pointer -O3 -funroll-all-loops -c refocus.c
In file included from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h:170,
 from refocus.c:28:
/usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtktextbuffer.h:52: warning: ISO C restricts 
enumerator values to range of ‘int’
/usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtktextbuffer.h:53: warning: ISO C restricts 
enumerator values to range of ‘int’
/usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtktextbuffer.h:55: warning: ISO C restricts 
enumerator values to range of ‘int’
In file included from refocus.c:32:
gimppreview.h:36:1: warning: GIMP_PREVIEW redefined
In file included from /usr/include/gimp-2.0/libgimpwidgets/gimpwidgets.h:55,
 from /usr/include/gimp-2.0/libgimp/gimpui.h:25,
 from gimppreview.h:29,
 from refocus.c:32:
/usr/include/gimp-2.0/libgimpwidgets/gimppreview.h:34:1: warning: this is the 
location of the previous definition
In file included from refocus.c:32:
gimppreview.h:37:1: warning: GIMP_PREVIEW_CLASS redefined
In file included from /usr/include/gimp-2.0/libgimpwidgets/gimpwidgets.h:55,
 from /usr/include/gimp-2.0/libgimp/gimpui.h:25,
 from gimppreview.h:29,
 from refocus.c:32:
/usr/include/gimp-2.0/libgimpwidgets/gimppreview.h:35:1: warning: this is the 
location of the previous definition
In file included from refocus.c:32:
gimppreview.h:38:1: warning: GIMP_IS_PREVIEW redefined
In file included from /usr/include/gimp-2.0/libgimpwidgets/gimpwidgets.h:55,
 from /usr/include/gimp-2.0/libgimp/gimpui.h:25,
 from gimppreview.h:29,
 from refocus.c:32:
/usr/include/gimp-2.0/libgimpwidgets/gimppreview.h:36:1: warning: this is the 
location of the previous definition
In file included from refocus.c:32:
gimppreview.h:39:1: warning: GIMP_IS_PREVIEW_CLASS redefined
In file included from /usr/include/gimp-2.0/libgimpwidgets/gimpwidgets.h:55,
 from /usr/include/gimp-2.0/libgimp/gimpui.h:25,
 from gimppreview.h:29,
 from refocus.c:32:
/usr/include/gimp-2.0/libgimpwidgets/gimppreview.h:37:1: warning: this is the 
location of the previous definition
In file included from refocus.c:32:
gimppreview.h:40: error: redefinition of typedef ‘GimpPreview’
/usr/include/gimp-2.0/libgimpwidgets/gimpwidgetstypes.h:83: error: previous 
declaration of ‘GimpPreview’ was here
gimppreview.h:41: error: redefinition of typedef ‘GimpPreviewClass’
/usr/include/gimp-2.0/libgimpwidgets/gimppreview.h:41: error: previous 
declaration of ‘GimpPreviewClass’ was here
gimppreview.h:45: error: redefinition of ‘struct _GimpPreviewClass’
gimppreview.h:54: error: redefinition of ‘struct _GimpPreview’
refocus.c:60: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
refocus.c: In function ‘run’:
refocus.c:134: error: ‘GimpRunModeType’ undeclared (first use in this function)
refocus.c:134: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
refocus.c:134: error: for each function it appears in.)
refocus.c:134: error: expected ‘;’ before ‘run_mode’
refocus.c:135: warning: ISO C90 forbids mixed declarations and code
refocus.c:143: error: ‘run_mode’ undeclared (first use in this function)
refocus.c:189: error: ‘GimpDrawable’ has no member named ‘id’
refocus.c:190: error: ‘GimpDrawable’ has no member named ‘id’
refocus.c: In function ‘preview_callback’:
refocus.c:414: error: ‘GimpDrawable’ has no member named ‘id’
refocus.c: In function ‘doit’:
refocus.c:611: error: ‘GimpDrawable’ has no member named ‘id’
refocus.c:621: error: ‘GimpDrawable’ has no member named ‘id’
refocus.c:622: error: ‘GimpDrawable’ has no member named ‘id’
make[1]: *** [refocus.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/refocus-0.9.0/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

Be seeing you,
  norm

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Re: [Gimp-user] plugins for photographers

2006-12-18 Thread David Hodson
Fabien3D wrote:
 I had forgotten this one : BIMP
 (http://www.dirfile.com/bimp_batch_image_processor.htm) under Window$. It's a 
 Batch Image Processor.

Since this is the Gimp Users list -
DBP is a Gimp batch processing plugin (for Linux and Windows, and
probably anything else that Gimp compiles on).

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~hodsond/dbp.html


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Re: [Gimp-user] plugins for photographers

2006-12-14 Thread Alexander Rabtchevich
Hello, Luka

I wasn't able to find this mode, sorry :(. I set foreground color to 
the current color of some part of an image, the background color to the 
desired color, set the mode from foreground color but it did not help 
- the color to be changed appeared grey, not background color.
I'll try to express the idea. We have some object of the scene of the 
known color. It is not grey, but it has known color. So I want to adjust 
the WB to match the actual color of the object with its known color 
(make them equal).
The practical example follows. My father's room is lighted with halogen 
lamps, and the light is rather strong. So if I take photos in this room, 
the resulting light is a combination of flash and external light. And 
the ratio between these lights differs from shot to shot, so there are 
no permanent WB settings. And it's really impossible to add grey card to 
each shot :) at the party. But if the correct color can be once found of 
some cloths or wall these data may be used when processing further images.



Luca de Alfaro wrote:
 
 Alexander,
 
 yes, I was also very much missing methods for adjusting the white 
 balance of an image.
 
 I wonder if you know, but the grey-point plugin has a mode in which it 
 converts from a color A (foreground, which you can specify with the 
 eyedropper) to color B (background, which you can specify with the 
 eyedropper or with by choosing the color).  
 
 


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Re: [Gimp-user] plugins for photographers

2006-12-14 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On 12/13/06, Luca de Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, I made two plugins (available from the repository):

 - colortemp: converts the color temperature of an image.  You can specify
 the source temperature in K, or as the temperatue at which a black-body
 color best matches the selected foreground color.

 - whitebalance: converts the foreground color to either neutral gray, or to
 a specified background color.  This is similar to grey-point, the difference
 being that the color transformation can be performed in the linear, rather
 than in the gamma-corrected, color space, and so may work better for
 removing color casts.

Another plug-in to do combined adjustments of whitebalance, levels and
saturation can be found at
http://pippin.gimp.org/plug-ins/color_correct/ I haven't touched the
code of the plug-in in a long time, and the user interface have a few
rough edges, but it provides live preview in the image, as well as the
ability to do an initial automatic whitebalance / white balance based
on a picked neutral grey, as well as adjusting the blackpoint.

/Øyvind K.

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Re: [Gimp-user] plugins for photographers

2006-12-14 Thread Alexander Rabtchevich
I usually use noise reduction with a grain of salt. As I understand, 
GREYCstoration differs in its approach from most of other filters: it 
tries to predict some edges in initial picture, not to simply blur it.
http://www.haypocalc.com/wiki/GREYCstoration_en
I usually decrease the amount of noise reduction the plug-in provides 
as default. Also if only some important details suffer from visible 
noise they can be selected and GREYCstoration then applies to the 
selection only. It takes much less time and memory.
Concerning its development it seems it does not take place now :(. The 
latest version I ever seen is greycstoration-0.2.4-a.tgz . I do not 
remember where I've got it from.


Fabrizio Lippolis wrote:
 Alexander Rabtchevich ha scritto:
 
 4. GREYCstoration - for noise reduction.
 
 Yesterday I have tried this one and dcam noise 2. Well, GREYCstoration 
 seems rather slow to me, it takes really long time to complete and at 
 the end I didn't see any improvement to the image (maybe the parameters 
 where not set the right way). The second is much faster though in the 
 first tries the result contained very blurred areas where the noise is 
 particularly strong. Anyway playing with the parameters I could obtain 
 still good details containing the noise and the result is very similar 
 to what I obtained applying the gaussian blur.
 
 Being slower I assume GREYCstoration performs much more complex 
 calculation, do you think it offers a better algorithm than the other 
 plugins around? On the other hand it looks it is not mantained very 
 actively, or am I wrong?
 
 Best regards,
 Fabrizio
 



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Re: [Gimp-user] plugins for photographers

2006-12-14 Thread GSR - FR
Hi,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2006-12-14 at 0950.07 +0100):
 Being slower I assume GREYCstoration performs much more complex 
 calculation, do you think it offers a better algorithm than the other 
 plugins around? On the other hand it looks it is not mantained very 
 actively, or am I wrong?

Gimp version seems be have been untouched for a year, but the core
system (CImg lib) gets periodic updates, including a recent speed up
in greyc, you can test the command line denoiser for speed changes.

GSR
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] plugins for photographers

2006-12-13 Thread norman

 I would like to ask photographers which plugins you use and you think 
 are most useful. Actually I use ufraw for RAW conversion and 
 manipulation and resynthesizer for photo retouching. Thank you.

There is a useful redeye reducer.

Norman

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Re: [Gimp-user] plugins for photographers

2006-12-13 Thread Alexander Rabtchevich
Hi, Fabrizio

I use mainly the next plug-ins on everyday basis:
1. UFRaw to import RAW files with my digital camera. I've created a 
profile with LProf for my G500 and enjoy natural pleasant colors.
2. fblur - focus blur plug-in to imitate blurriness in out-of-focus 
areas (boke).
3. refocus (do not mix with refocus-it) plugin to add natural sharpness 
to images (it uses other technique than sharpening).
4. GREYCstoration - for noise reduction.
5. my script to remove red eye.

As for tools, the main ones are:
Clone and Heal,
new Crop with fixed ratio, dimmed non-selected areas and possible 
thirds guidelines
levels and curves (if the source is jpg, not RAW).

What I really miss for in-camera jpegs is advanced WB correction tool. I 
would like to see gray color picker in WB correction tool, not only in 
Levels tool. Also I would like the plug-in to be able to take some color 
from the picture as given color (select a pixel|group of pixels with 
eye-dropper and enter its desired correct color manually (RGB or HSV)) 
to recalculate the whole picture. The only difference with gray point 
selector is the sample is not gray, but has known color.

Fabrizio Lippolis wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I would like to ask photographers which plugins you use and you think 
 are most useful. Actually I use ufraw for RAW conversion and 
 manipulation and resynthesizer for photo retouching. Thank you.
 
 Regards,
 Fabrizio


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Re: [Gimp-user] plugins for photographers

2006-12-13 Thread Luca de Alfaro

Ok, I made two plugins (available from the repository):

- colortemp: converts the color temperature of an image.  You can specify
the source temperature in K, or as the temperatue at which a black-body
color best matches the selected foreground color.

- whitebalance: converts the foreground color to either neutral gray, or to
a specified background color.  This is similar to grey-point, the difference
being that the color transformation can be performed in the linear, rather
than in the gamma-corrected, color space, and so may work better for
removing color casts.

I hope these can be useful to others!  I was certainly very much in need for
them, and I wonder why I was so lazy to learn script-fu only now (lack of
documentation? nah, cannot be it ;-).

Luca
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Re: [Gimp-user] plugins for photographers

2006-12-13 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 13:02 -0800, Luca de Alfaro wrote:

 I hope these can be useful to others!  I was certainly very much in
 need for them, and I wonder why I was so lazy to learn script-fu only
 now (lack of documentation? nah, cannot be it ;-). 

So these are actually scripts, not plug-ins? Not that it would make much
of a difference. Except that plug-ins often offer a nicer UI with
preview.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] plugins for photographers

2006-12-13 Thread Luca de Alfaro

They are scripts.
I am actually glad that the days of coding in C are past me :-)  I looked at
the code for some plug-ins, and I decided I'd rather not do that!  Also,
actually, I prefer scripts, as I can move them from machine to machine
without a need to recompile (not on all my machines I have a build
environment). They seem preferable - to install them, you just drop them
into place!

I actually think that the combination of a number-crunching core written in
C, and control scripts written in interpreted, high-level, languages, and
consequently easy to install/modify by users, is a very good paradigm.  As a
user, I am much more likely to tinker with simple, self-contained scheme
scripts, than with .c stuff that needs a whole build environment to compile.


Luca

On 12/13/06, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 13:02 -0800, Luca de Alfaro wrote:

 I hope these can be useful to others!  I was certainly very much in
 need for them, and I wonder why I was so lazy to learn script-fu only
 now (lack of documentation? nah, cannot be it ;-).

So these are actually scripts, not plug-ins? Not that it would make much
of a difference. Except that plug-ins often offer a nicer UI with
preview.


Sven




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