Re: [gina-users] external effects

1999-12-22 Thread Timothy Roven

thanks all for your input - this came from echo support and it worked like a
charm -

tom said:
Sounds like you are getting a feed back loop. When you go out of Gina into
compressor and back in to Gina then it goes right back out of Gina again and
so on. Try muting monitors 1/2 wich are on the Echo Console.



- Original Message -
From: Timothy Roven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Gina Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 10:30 PM
Subject: [gina-users] external effects


> hello all, i hope you can help - i've just decided to try out my first
> out-board/non computer effects with the gina. i got the alesis
> nanocompressor and nanoverb, pretty great value for 175 bucks for the
pair.
> anyway, please tell me i'm doing something really stupid because neither
> seems to be working quite right.
>
> for the compressor, i decided to first start by adding a light overall
> compression to an already finished song. i ran 2 cables out of gina's 1/2
> output into the input of the nanocompressor and plugged my headphones via
> y-connector into the output of the nanocompressor. i fired up the song and
> tweaked around until i had what i thought sounded like a light overall
> mastering-type compression.
>
> i then unplugged the phones and ran two cables out of the nanocompressor
> into the 1/2 inputs of gina. my y-connector and phones i put into the 3/4
> output of the gina and selected via the gina console to monitor the
> compressed output (now the 1/2 inputs). the sound was totally different,
it
> had this nasty tinny brasso quality to it. i figured i'd make sure my
levels
> were set ok but they were fine all around. i even lowered them. then i
> checked the sound coming out of the compressor again with the phones and
> found it was fine.
>
> same thing happened with the reverb unit.
>
> any ideas anyone? thanks for reading this novel!!
>
> timothy
>



Re: [gina-users] external effects

1999-12-21 Thread j pemble

At 10:30 PM 12/20/99 -0800, you wrote:
>
>hello all, i hope you can help - i've just decided to try out my first
>out-board/non computer effects with the gina. i got the alesis
>nanocompressor and nanoverb, pretty great value for 175 bucks for the pair.
>anyway, please tell me i'm doing something really stupid because neither
>seems to be working quite right.
>
>for the compressor, i decided to first start by adding a light overall
>compression to an already finished song. i ran 2 cables out of gina's 1/2
>output into the input of the nanocompressor and plugged my headphones via
>y-connector into the output of the nanocompressor. i fired up the song and
>tweaked around until i had what i thought sounded like a light overall
>mastering-type compression.
>
>i then unplugged the phones and ran two cables out of the nanocompressor
>into the 1/2 inputs of gina. my y-connector and phones i put into the 3/4
>output of the gina and selected via the gina console to monitor the
>compressed output (now the 1/2 inputs). the sound was totally different, it
>had this nasty tinny brasso quality to it. i figured i'd make sure my levels
>were set ok but they were fine all around. i even lowered them. then i
>checked the sound coming out of the compressor again with the phones and
>found it was fine.
>
>same thing happened with the reverb unit.
>
>any ideas anyone? thanks for reading this novel!!

I have a friend who doesn't record much often, but when he does he uses a
Gina.  Recently when he wsa doing a similar thing with Cakewalk he got the
same kind of thing.  I haven't been over to his place to check it out, but
it sounds a lot like some sort of feedback loop.  When you talk about the
tinny sound that sounds like feed back.  It also sounds like the sample
rate is getting fucked with at some point, like something is being majorly
dithered back and forth or something.  I think it is an issue between the
application software like CakeWalk and the Gina Input when working in full
duplex mode.

-john pemble

>timothy
>
>
KTPR 91.1fm Operations Manager  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Pemble has an Internet site, http://www.sonicflow.com



Re: [gina-users] external effects

1999-12-21 Thread Jaime Torrico R.

Hi Timothy:

I don't have first hand experience on those Alesis units, but heard bad
things about the nano-stuff from them in other discussion groups. I was also
going to purchase those units until I read the bad reviews and prefered to save
more money for better units. Mostly the complains were that they were noisy and
that the sound had bad quality.
I hope you can get a good sound out of them, otherwise return them.

Jaime


Timothy Roven wrote:

> hello all, i hope you can help - i've just decided to try out my first
> out-board/non computer effects with the gina. i got the alesis
> nanocompressor and nanoverb, pretty great value for 175 bucks for the pair.
> anyway, please tell me i'm doing something really stupid because neither
> seems to be working quite right.
>
> for the compressor, i decided to first start by adding a light overall
> compression to an already finished song. i ran 2 cables out of gina's 1/2
> output into the input of the nanocompressor and plugged my headphones via
> y-connector into the output of the nanocompressor. i fired up the song and
> tweaked around until i had what i thought sounded like a light overall
> mastering-type compression.
>
> i then unplugged the phones and ran two cables out of the nanocompressor
> into the 1/2 inputs of gina. my y-connector and phones i put into the 3/4
> output of the gina and selected via the gina console to monitor the
> compressed output (now the 1/2 inputs). the sound was totally different, it
> had this nasty tinny brasso quality to it. i figured i'd make sure my levels
> were set ok but they were fine all around. i even lowered them. then i
> checked the sound coming out of the compressor again with the phones and
> found it was fine.
>
> same thing happened with the reverb unit.
>
> any ideas anyone? thanks for reading this novel!!
>
> timothy



Re: [gina-users] external effects

1999-12-21 Thread Neal Sanche

Timothy Roven wrote:

> i then unplugged the phones and ran two cables out of the nanocompressor
> into the 1/2 inputs of gina. my y-connector and phones i put into the 3/4
> output of the gina and selected via the gina console to monitor the
> compressed output (now the 1/2 inputs). the sound was totally different, it
> had this nasty tinny brasso quality to it. i figured i'd make sure my levels
> were set ok but they were fine all around. i even lowered them. then i
> checked the sound coming out of the compressor again with the phones and
> found it was fine.

Well, Timothy, the only thing that I can think of is that you might have had
the SP/DIF clock set on, instead of the 'Internal' clock. I sometimes do this
when I'm recording my Soundblaster Live! and forget to turn it off. It adds a
metalic buzz/click that sounds a little like it went through a distortion
pedal. If it's not that, let me know.

-Neal





[gina-users] external effects

1999-12-21 Thread Timothy Roven

hello all, i hope you can help - i've just decided to try out my first
out-board/non computer effects with the gina. i got the alesis
nanocompressor and nanoverb, pretty great value for 175 bucks for the pair.
anyway, please tell me i'm doing something really stupid because neither
seems to be working quite right.

for the compressor, i decided to first start by adding a light overall
compression to an already finished song. i ran 2 cables out of gina's 1/2
output into the input of the nanocompressor and plugged my headphones via
y-connector into the output of the nanocompressor. i fired up the song and
tweaked around until i had what i thought sounded like a light overall
mastering-type compression.

i then unplugged the phones and ran two cables out of the nanocompressor
into the 1/2 inputs of gina. my y-connector and phones i put into the 3/4
output of the gina and selected via the gina console to monitor the
compressed output (now the 1/2 inputs). the sound was totally different, it
had this nasty tinny brasso quality to it. i figured i'd make sure my levels
were set ok but they were fine all around. i even lowered them. then i
checked the sound coming out of the compressor again with the phones and
found it was fine.

same thing happened with the reverb unit.

any ideas anyone? thanks for reading this novel!!

timothy