Re: Cannot install git RPM

2005-08-10 Thread Junio C Hamano
Wolfgang Denk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes replying to Sam Ravnborg:

> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>>
>> Not knowing perl at all I wonder if some more widespread used packages
>> can replace the above two?
>
> Installation of the required modules from the  CPAN  is  trivial.  It
> should be documented somewhere, though.

I would appreciate a patch for RPM building after 0.99.4, but
the tentative solution for 0.99.4 (and current "master" branch
since last night) is to ship the problematic program as part of
the sources under "contrib" status, but not install nor include
in the resulting binary package.

The dependency list for the RPM built from the tip of "rc"
branch now reads like this (thanks Chris for teaching me how to
get this information).  This will hopefully be the one that
becomes the official 0.99.4.

$ rpm -qp ~/rpms/RPMS/i386/git-core-0.99.4-1.i386.rpm --requires
/bin/sh
/usr/bin/env
/usr/bin/perl
diffutils
libc.so.6
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.3)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)
libcrypto.so.4
libcurl.so.3
libssl.so.4
libz.so.1
mktemp >= 1.5
perl(File::Basename)
perl(File::Path)
perl(File::Spec)
perl(File::Temp)
perl(Getopt::Std)
perl(IO::Pipe)
perl(IO::Socket)
perl(POSIX)
perl(Time::Local)
perl(strict)
perl(warnings)
rcs
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
rsync
sh-utils


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Re: Cannot install git RPM

2005-08-10 Thread Chris Wright
* Wolfgang Denk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> My problem is that I cannot satisfy the dependencies in a  way  which
> gets visible to RPM. And this is where I feel this is a bug in Fedora
> Core. But probably I'm just too dumb.

No, it's just lack of good support.  Try rpm.pbone.net, they are there.
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Re: Cannot install git RPM

2005-08-10 Thread Wolfgang Denk
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> * Wolfgang Denk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > It's then the "perl(Email::Valid)" and "perl(Mail::Sendmail)"  depen-
> > dencies  which  cause  problems.  I  installed  all perl packages and
> > modules I was able to find in the standard FC places,  but  this  did
> > not solve the problem. Maybe this is actually a bug in Fedora Core ?
> 
> No, you probably missed the earlier thread on this.  It's not a bug,
> those are real dependencies which rpm automagically discovers (along
> with things like shared library dependencies).  The issue is the
> git-send-email-script uses Mail/Sendmail.pm and Email/Valid.pm which
> aren't part of standard install.  Your choices are to grab the relevant

They are not only not part of a standard installation, but:

o I was not able to find any perl modules in the  whole  Fedora  Core
  distribution that satisfied these dependencies.

o Manually  installing  Email::Valid  and  Mail::Sendmail  (plus  the
  required  prerequisites)  from  CPAN  worked  find,  but  RPM still
  complains.

> packages, do an install with --nodeps (and know that

That's what I did.

> git-send-email-script will not work), make a subpackage for that script

But it will work, as the required Perl modules are installed.


My problem is that I cannot satisfy the dependencies in a  way  which
gets visible to RPM. And this is where I feel this is a bug in Fedora
Core. But probably I'm just too dumb.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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Re: Cannot install git RPM

2005-08-10 Thread Wolfgang Denk
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>
> Not knowing perl at all I wonder if some more widespread used packages
> can replace the above two?

Installation of the required modules from the  CPAN  is  trivial.  It
should be documented somewhere, though.


Best regards,

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Re: Cannot install git RPM

2005-08-10 Thread Chris Wright
* Sam Ravnborg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Not knowing perl at all I wonder if some more widespread used packages
> can replace the above two?
> I recall having trouble locating them myself when I first tried Greg's
> send-a-lot-of-mails script.

I'm not too sure, but I too abandoned (well, rewrote in sh) some email
scripts from Greg due to that dependency ;-)

thanks,
-chris
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Re: Cannot install git RPM

2005-08-10 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 09:23:07AM -0700, Chris Wright wrote:
> * Wolfgang Denk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > It's then the "perl(Email::Valid)" and "perl(Mail::Sendmail)"  depen-
> > dencies  which  cause  problems.  I  installed  all perl packages and
> > modules I was able to find in the standard FC places,  but  this  did
> > not solve the problem. Maybe this is actually a bug in Fedora Core ?
> 
> No, you probably missed the earlier thread on this.  It's not a bug,
> those are real dependencies which rpm automagically discovers (along
> with things like shared library dependencies).  The issue is the
> git-send-email-script uses Mail/Sendmail.pm and Email/Valid.pm which
> aren't part of standard install.

Not knowing perl at all I wonder if some more widespread used packages
can replace the above two?
I recall having trouble locating them myself when I first tried Greg's
send-a-lot-of-mails script.

Sam
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Re: Cannot install git RPM

2005-08-10 Thread Chris Wright
* Wolfgang Denk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> It's then the "perl(Email::Valid)" and "perl(Mail::Sendmail)"  depen-
> dencies  which  cause  problems.  I  installed  all perl packages and
> modules I was able to find in the standard FC places,  but  this  did
> not solve the problem. Maybe this is actually a bug in Fedora Core ?

No, you probably missed the earlier thread on this.  It's not a bug,
those are real dependencies which rpm automagically discovers (along
with things like shared library dependencies).  The issue is the
git-send-email-script uses Mail/Sendmail.pm and Email/Valid.pm which
aren't part of standard install.  Your choices are to grab the relevant
packages, do an install with --nodeps (and know that
git-send-email-script will not work), make a subpackage for that script
so it can have its own dependencies, or move that script to elsewhere
so it's not scanned for depenedency info.

thanks,
-chris
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Re: Cannot install git RPM

2005-08-10 Thread Wolfgang Denk
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>
> > The problematic one is git-send-email-script.  
> 
> Yup.  I'll take the blame for that one - I forget how inclusive the
> Debian packaging is compared to the other distributions.

Actually this may be more of a problem  with  Fedora  Core  /  RedHat
dependency generation and checking.

As far as the RPM *build* is concerned this looks pretty harmless  to
me:

BuildRequires:  zlib-devel, openssl-devel, curl-devel  
%{!?_without_docs:, xmlto, asciidoc > 6.0.3}
...
Prereq: sh-utils, diffutils, rsync, rcs, mktemp >= 1.5


But the RPM itself seems  to  contain  additional  information  about
required packages:

# rpm -q --requires -p /usr/local/RPMS/i386/git-core-0.99.3-1.i386.rpm
/bin/sh  
/usr/bin/env  
/usr/bin/perl  
diffutils  
libc.so.6  
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0)  
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1)  
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3)  
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.3)  
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)  
libcrypto.so.4  
libcurl.so.2  
libssl.so.4  
libz.so.1  
mktemp >= 1.5
perl(Data::Dumper)  
perl(Email::Valid)  
perl(File::Basename)  
perl(File::Path)  
perl(File::Spec)  
perl(File::Temp)  
perl(Getopt::Long)  
perl(Getopt::Std)  
perl(IO::Pipe)  
perl(IO::Socket)  
perl(Mail::Sendmail)  
perl(POSIX)  
perl(Term::ReadLine)  
perl(Time::Local)  
perl(strict)  
perl(warnings)  
rcs  
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
rpmlib(VersionedDependencies) <= 3.0.3-1
rsync  
sh-utils  

It's then the "perl(Email::Valid)" and "perl(Mail::Sendmail)"  depen-
dencies  which  cause  problems.  I  installed  all perl packages and
modules I was able to find in the standard FC places,  but  this  did
not solve the problem. Maybe this is actually a bug in Fedora Core ?


Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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Re: Cannot install git RPM

2005-08-09 Thread Ryan Anderson
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 10:13:32AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Junio C Hamano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >> But the resulting RPM cannot be installed either,  at  least  not  in
> >> standard Fedora Core 2/3/4 installations:
> >> ...
> >> Is there at least some  documentation  which  external  packages  are
> >> needed, and where to find these?
> 
> The problematic one is git-send-email-script.  

Yup.  I'll take the blame for that one - I forget how inclusive the
Debian packaging is compared to the other distributions.

> I have to admit that it was a mistake to take that patch; I was
> trying to be _too_ inclusive.  The script does not even read
> from nor write into a git repository, and the only relevance to
> git is that it is useful for people to patchbomb the list with
> git generated patches.  In other words, the program may be
> useful, but its usefulness does not have much to do with git, so
> it does not belong to git.

Well, here I think I disagree.  I think it's a valid, possibly vital,
part of the suggested workflow for maintainers of projects.  Admittedly,
the emails can be sent by hand in many cases - but for the "clean up the
history" goal of exporting things out as patches, the email step is
important.

> My short-term plan is to downgrade it to "contrib" status, and
> not touch it from the main Makefile.  It will be in the 0.99.4
> sources but will not be installed nor made into binary package.
> I hope Ryan does not mind this decision.

Not at all.  I agree that the RPM dependency problem is a good reason to
not install it by default.   What I will do is make this the beginning
of my directory structure reorganization.  I'll probably also convert
the Debian package to a multi-package system, so we have a demonstration
of splitting these two items up.

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Re: Cannot install git RPM

2005-08-09 Thread Junio C Hamano
Junio C Hamano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> But the resulting RPM cannot be installed either,  at  least  not  in
>> standard Fedora Core 2/3/4 installations:
>> ...
>> Is there at least some  documentation  which  external  packages  are
>> needed, and where to find these?

The problematic one is git-send-email-script.  

I have to admit that it was a mistake to take that patch; I was
trying to be _too_ inclusive.  The script does not even read
from nor write into a git repository, and the only relevance to
git is that it is useful for people to patchbomb the list with
git generated patches.  In other words, the program may be
useful, but its usefulness does not have much to do with git, so
it does not belong to git.

My short-term plan is to downgrade it to "contrib" status, and
not touch it from the main Makefile.  It will be in the 0.99.4
sources but will not be installed nor made into binary package.
I hope Ryan does not mind this decision.

After we audit the set of tools we currently ship, along with
some other scripts/programs, either we remove it altogether from
our source tree, or create a contrib/ subdirectory and move it
there.

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Re: Cannot install git RPM

2005-08-09 Thread Clemens Koller

Hi, Linus!

Linus Torvalds wrote:


On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Clemens Koller wrote:


Over here - using a non-standard ELDK/LFS mixture, git depends at least on:
...
diffstat (ftp://invisible-island.net/diffstat/diffstat-1.39.tgz)



Hmm.. This should not be true. Any "diffstat"s should be converted to use
"git-apply --stat" instead.

I don't find any diffstat users, so maybe you just remember it from "the 
old days", and didn't realize that it's not needed any more.


Okay, just FYI: As far as my installation history remembers it was needed
at least up to:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/jgarzik/git-20050622.tar.bz2
Which is _NOT_ recommended for new installations!
(Can somebody please remove/mark that old stuff to avoid using it?!)

Instead use:
http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/projects/git-snapshots/git/git-latest.tar.gz

[ That said, anybody who wants to install git might as well install 
  diffstat, it's a useful program in general, and works on more than just 
  unified diffs ]


true.

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Re: Cannot install git RPM

2005-08-09 Thread Linus Torvalds


On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Clemens Koller wrote:
> 
> Over here - using a non-standard ELDK/LFS mixture, git depends at least on:
>...
> diffstat (ftp://invisible-island.net/diffstat/diffstat-1.39.tgz)

Hmm.. This should not be true. Any "diffstat"s should be converted to use
"git-apply --stat" instead.

I don't find any diffstat users, so maybe you just remember it from "the 
old days", and didn't realize that it's not needed any more.

[ That said, anybody who wants to install git might as well install 
  diffstat, it's a useful program in general, and works on more than just 
  unified diffs ]

Linus
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Re: Cannot install git RPM

2005-08-09 Thread Clemens Koller

Hello, Wolfgang!


But the resulting RPM cannot be installed either,  at  least  not  in
standard Fedora Core 2/3/4 installations:

error: Failed dependencies:
perl(Email::Valid) is needed by git-core-0.99.3-1
perl(Mail::Sendmail) is needed by git-core-0.99.3-1


Seems git is depending on more and more stuff which is not  available
in standard distros. This makes it not easier for new users...

Is there at least some  documentation  which  external  packages  are
needed, and where to find these?


Over here - using a non-standard ELDK/LFS mixture, git depends at least on:
zlib ()
libcurl (http://curl.haxx.se/download/curl-7.14.0.tar.bz2)
openssl ()
diff ()
diffstat (ftp://invisible-island.net/diffstat/diffstat-1.39.tgz)
which (http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/which/which-2.16.tar.gz)
rsync (http://samba.anu.edu.au/ftp/rsync/rsync-2.6.5.tar.gz)
perl ()

() -> ask Google.
The versions given in brackets seem to work fine for me. - YMMV

Greets,

Clemens Koller
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Re: Cannot install git RPM

2005-08-09 Thread Junio C Hamano
Wolfgang Denk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> A simple fix is of course:
>
> -> diff -u git-core.spec.in.ORIG git-core.spec.in
> --- git-core.spec.in.ORIG   2005-08-09 10:26:50.845877000 +0200
> +++ git-core.spec.in2005-08-09 12:42:06.872310918 +0200
> @@ -40,6 +40,7 @@
>  %{!?_without_docs: %doc Documentation/*.html }
>  %{!?_without_docs: %{_mandir}/man1/*.1.gz}
>  %{!?_without_docs: %{_mandir}/man7/*.7.gz}
> +/usr/share/git-core/templates/*

Something like that using %{_datadir} is in the RC branch.

> But the resulting RPM cannot be installed either,  at  least  not  in
> standard Fedora Core 2/3/4 installations:
> ...
> Is there at least some  documentation  which  external  packages  are
> needed, and where to find these?

Patches welcome.  Sorry but I need a lot of help when it comes
to binary packaging.



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Re: Cannot install git RPM

2005-08-09 Thread Wolfgang Denk
I wrote:

> it is not possible to build RPMs from the current git code:
> 
> RPM build errors:
> Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found:
>/usr/share/git-core/templates/description
>/usr/share/git-core/templates/hooks/post-update
>/usr/share/git-core/templates/hooks/update
>/usr/share/git-core/templates/info/exclude
> make: *** [rpm] Error 1

A simple fix is of course:

-> diff -u git-core.spec.in.ORIG git-core.spec.in
--- git-core.spec.in.ORIG   2005-08-09 10:26:50.845877000 +0200
+++ git-core.spec.in2005-08-09 12:42:06.872310918 +0200
@@ -40,6 +40,7 @@
 %{!?_without_docs: %doc Documentation/*.html }
 %{!?_without_docs: %{_mandir}/man1/*.1.gz}
 %{!?_without_docs: %{_mandir}/man7/*.7.gz}
+/usr/share/git-core/templates/*
 
 %changelog
 * Thu Jul 14 2005 Eric Biederman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


But the resulting RPM cannot be installed either,  at  least  not  in
standard Fedora Core 2/3/4 installations:

error: Failed dependencies:
perl(Email::Valid) is needed by git-core-0.99.3-1
perl(Mail::Sendmail) is needed by git-core-0.99.3-1


Seems git is depending on more and more stuff which is not  available
in standard distros. This makes it not easier for new users...

Is there at least some  documentation  which  external  packages  are
needed, and where to find these?

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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