On 1/11/05, Medard Gabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A Thought experiment / Cost/benefit question:
>
> What would it cost (ball park estimate) to provide everyone in the world
> with broad band Internet access?
..snip...
> Building the high-speed wireless connection devices (or wired ones where
Njideka, et al.,
Just a small note that is a bit off topic. I have seen many people
describe VSAT in terms of it being one product. Moreover, many people
evaluating VSATs tend to fall into marketing hype and look only at the
bit rate (128k vs 64k) and not other important factors such as what
proto
Dear Colleagues,
A Thought experiment / Cost/benefit question:
What would it cost (ball park estimate) to provide everyone in the world
with broad band Internet access? Or, how much would it cost to provide
everyone over the age of 10 in the developing world who is currently
without any access wi
I enjoyed reading your post, Peter, as my organization, Youth for
Technology Foundation, is currently exploring some of these
possibilities.
The shared bandwidth problem is never as easy as it sounds to implement.
In Nigeria, this is the so-called revenue generating model of several
cybercafes - r
Dear Colleagues,
I took the liberty of answering in-line and editing the message,
hopefully without disturbing the context.
On 1/4/05, Edmond Gaible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Monthly connection costs under volume-based pricing (1GB total traffic
> per month) is about $230. Recognizing the rea
Thanks, Mark, for clarifying important aspects of the reality of access
costs. African countries show the results of taxation and monopolies
very clearly. I have been working with a college in Tanzania that is an
hour away from Dar es Salaam, which in this case means 'remote', at
least in terms of
Dear Colleagues,
This discussion may have already closed. Please forgive my tardiness; I
have been traveling in the bush, but am keenly interested in this
thread, as it pertains directly to what we are doing here in Mali.
We are working with exactly the model that Jeff Buderer described: a
centra
On 12/28/04, John Dada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And let me also stir things up a bit more, Lee. I've heard data bandied
> about what defines an LDC, and have heard things like folks living on
> less than $1/day. I don't know where these figures come from. But one of
> my mothers (yes, in rural
A few thoughts from me here about various points raised in this thread:
The high costs of internet access, especially of high-speed, always on,
Internet access in the remote and under-served areas of the world is due
to many reasons in my experience.
* Lower demand due to lower per capita income
Dear Colleagues,
A quick set of numbers about a specific situation with regard to VSAT
connectivity:
As of September 2004, secondary schools in Uganda were able to purchase
new KU-band VSAT terminals for US $2800 from the Ugandan offices of
AFSAT.
Monthly connection costs under volume-based pric
John,
This seems like a tremendous amount of money to spend on connectivity,
particularly when grandmas on Nigeria survive on a less than a dollar a
day. So in other words on a very practical level you are dealing with
the issues discussed here about ROI. But we are not talking about
profitability
And let me also stir things up a bit more, Lee. I've heard data bandied
about what defines an LDC, and have heard things like folks living on
less than $1/day. I don't know where these figures come from. But one of
my mothers (yes, in rural Nigeria, every elderly woman is my mother) is
on welfare f
Dear Colleagues,
You really have to wonder. I started out as an engineer...slipped to
economics...and then to accountancy. When you do an analysis combining
all three, some interesting and depressing results come out.
Who are we subsidizing when we get donors to give expensive obsolete
technology
On 12/20/04, Darrell Owen wrote:
> ...doing without subsidies would be better than with them if the local
> economics make this possible. In many locations it simply doesn't...
Dear Colleagues,
Happy Holidays!
I was going to stay out of this particular thread because it is the
holidays here i
I think there are subsidies, and then there are 'subsidies'. There is no
way we can, as yet, sustain our monthly bandwidth subscription cost of
$1,800 without recourse to a subsidy from our own micro-finance service.
We have other pressing demands for this colossal (by our standards)
subscription f
Continuing the discussion initiated by Cornelio Hopmann re: subsidizing
the Internet, I want to add the following:
In responding to my observations to Cornelio's original posting, my
primary orientation was that examining the issue of infrastructure
subsidies (in favor or against) by purely lookin
On 12/20/04, Darrell Owen wrote:
> When an Internet infrastructure can expand delivery of education,
> economic opportunity, expand markets, improve health care, improve
> agricultural production or increase prices paid to the farms for their
> crops, then the benefits will likely be such as to ov
I fully agree with Cornelio Hopmann.
To my mind, there should be no subsidy of any kind, as it creates a
skewed society and the ultimate beneficiaries are the middlemen - the
politician, the bureaucrat, the businessman, etc., and not the real
poor. In the name of the poor, these people get the ben
Dear Colleagues,
To me, it seems that subsidies are useful as a way to exploit
bifurcation points in the development of the bottom of the pyramid.
MNCs (multinational corporations) in developed countries should be
stimulated to start entrepreneurial ventures in developing countries as
well as inv
Dear Colleagues:
Cornelio Hopmann makes a number of correct observations, but at least in
my mind, the focus of the discussion needs to be expanded in order to
get a clearer picture as to the issue of subsidizing the Internet. As
defined, the points Cornelio makes is a bit like focusing on the
dyn
Dear GKD Members,
As an ISP that uses alternative technologies to deliver connectivity I
believe that I can not only speak with some authority on this subject
but also offer some insight. I have opted for an in-line approach so as
to preserve continuity in the discussion.
On 12/10/04, Cornelio H
Dear Colleagues,
As it was tacitly touched upon in our recent focused discussion and is a
hot topic for WSIS-2005, I would be interested in other opinions.
To state it: in many cases they should not!...and not for the sake of
avoiding spending but rather to avoid harming the "Developing"
Countrie
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