Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-19 Thread Eric Stein
My experience with the n810 (I never installed any agps package) GPS was universally awful except in a few lucky circumstances when I randomly got a GPS signal. The n900 GPS is quite good and almost always acquires a signal quickly. Granted, it is not good when you are away from signals such

Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-17 Thread David Rysdam
On 05/16/2010 09:56 PM, Peter Dobratz wrote: This may be stating the obvious, but it tripped me up when I was trying out my Garmin Etrex. You have to be still in order to get a fix. All of my tests had the GPS sitting on the ground or on a bench. At the very most, I picked it up as in the

Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-17 Thread Tyson Sawyer
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:42 PM, David Rysdam da...@rysdam.org wrote: I was outside, I was still WiFi'd in to the house so it was using AGPS.  Result: Invalid. [...] Conclusion: The N810 GPS hardware and/or software definitively sucks. Though I agree that the N810 is not as good a GPS is

Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-17 Thread David Rysdam
On 05/17/2010 09:39 AM, Tyson Sawyer wrote: On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:42 PM, David Rysdam da...@rysdam.org wrote: I was outside, I was still WiFi'd in to the house so it was using AGPS. Result: Invalid. [...] Conclusion: The N810 GPS hardware and/or software definitively sucks. Though

Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-17 Thread Tyson Sawyer
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote:  Unrelated to the My GPS is faster than your GPS discussion, but relevant to the Linux friendliness question:  It has an apparently standard USB mini B port on the back, which serves for both power input (to charge

Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-17 Thread Tyson Sawyer
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:47 AM, David Rysdam da...@rysdam.org wrote: On 05/17/2010 09:39 AM, Tyson Sawyer wrote: On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:42 PM, David Rysdam da...@rysdam.org wrote: I was outside, I was still WiFi'd in to the house so it was using AGPS.  Result: Invalid. [...]

Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-17 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Tyson Sawyer ty...@j3.org wrote:  It may be that it draws too much power when the batteries are low? Possible. I'll let the battery run down some time and see if that then hinders USB connectivity. Removing the batteries so that it wasn't charging ... The

Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-16 Thread David Rysdam
On 05/13/2010 08:19 AM, David Rysdam wrote: On 05/12/2010 06:13 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: Cold tests were performed when both Pocket PC and GPS receiver were powered off (if GPS receiver has a separate power source, the GPS receiver was unplugged) for a

Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-16 Thread Peter Dobratz
This may be stating the obvious, but it tripped me up when I was trying out my Garmin Etrex. You have to be still in order to get a fix. I had the Garmin attached to my bicycle and I was riding up and down my driveway while waiting to go off and map the neighborhood. No fix until I *stopped*

Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-16 Thread Bruce Labitt
Doesn't work that way for a car GPS. Usually takes 5 minutes for a cold start even if moving, iirc. On May 16, 2010 9:59 PM, Peter Dobratz pe...@dobratz.us wrote: This may be stating the obvious, but it tripped me up when I was trying out my Garmin Etrex. You have to be still in order to get a

Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-16 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Bruce Labitt bdlab...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't work that way for a car GPS. Usually takes 5 minutes for a cold start even if moving, iirc. I just today took possession of a Garmin Nuvi 205W. Previous owner claims to have never used it beyond plugging it in

Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-13 Thread David Rysdam
On 05/12/2010 06:13 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: Cold tests were performed when both Pocket PC and GPS receiver were powered off (if GPS receiver has a separate power source, the GPS receiver was unplugged) for a period of between 8 to 12 hours

Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-13 Thread Tyson Sawyer
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:19 AM, David Rysdam da...@rysdam.org wrote: That said, I'll try to test it.  I'll assume the N810 needs a factory start by this point and then start doing some cold timings.  Assuming it doesn't take so long that I have to terminate the test. Install the AGPS update.

Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-13 Thread Stephen Ryan
On Wed, 2010-05-12 at 13:46 -0400, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: Stephen Ryan step...@sryanfamily.info writes: My N810 takes 15 minutes+ to lock on to the GPS satellites, and usually takes a lot longer than that (a couple of hours, which is the same thing as useless IMO). I don't bother to use

Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-12 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Stephen Ryan step...@sryanfamily.info writes: On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 22:12 -0400, David Rysdam wrote: On 05/11/2010 09:31 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: How's the GPS? I heard from someone that the N810's GPS was lacking, though I'm still somewhat suspicious of his specific

Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-12 Thread David Rysdam
On 05/12/2010 01:46 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: This is why I'm dubious of these `N810's GPS receiver is slow' claims-- because coupling them with `... so I never use it' is actually a vicious cycle. Are the claims peculiar to the N810? If not, perhaps you are right. What other

Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-12 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:06 PM, David Rysdam da...@rysdam.org wrote: I will note, though, that when I first unpacked my actual GPS it acquired a signal in just a couple of minutes *from inside the house* ... It's certainly the case that quality of GPS chips and receivers varies. Better

Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-12 Thread Tyson Sawyer
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:06 PM, David Rysdam da...@rysdam.org wrote: On 05/12/2010 01:46 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: This is why I'm dubious of these `N810's GPS receiver is slow' claims-- because coupling them with `... so I never use it' is actually a vicious cycle. [...] I will note,

Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-12 Thread Tom Buskey
A dedicated GPS will have the maps. On a cell, you download the maps. My balackberry gets a fix almost as well as my garmin, but then you need to get maps too. On 5/12/10, Tyson Sawyer ty...@j3.org wrote: On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:06 PM, David Rysdam da...@rysdam.org wrote: On 05/12/2010

Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-12 Thread Tyson Sawyer
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Tom Buskey t...@buskey.name wrote: A dedicated GPS will have the maps.  On a cell, you download the maps. My balackberry gets a fix almost as well as my garmin, but then you need to get maps too. http://www.mapdroyd.com/ -- Tyson D Sawyer A strong

Re: Nokia N900

2010-05-12 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
David Rysdam da...@rysdam.org writes: On 05/12/2010 01:46 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: This is why I'm dubious of these `N810's GPS receiver is slow' claims-- because coupling them with `... so I never use it' is actually a vicious cycle. Are the claims peculiar to the N810? If not,

Re: Nokia N900 // GPS, again

2010-05-11 Thread Bill Ricker
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com wrote: How's the GPS? I heard from someone that the N810's GPS was lacking, I had heard same on N810 and N900, so didn't have high expectations and so haven't tested extensively. I vaguely think it's supposed to be quicker

Re: Nokia N900 // GPS

2010-05-05 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 04/30/2010 08:33 AM, Benjamin Scott wrote: I was rather disappointed. I used the 2.5mm jack wireline version once (thanks, Bill McG!), and it was much better. Apparently they skimped on the electronics in this one. Yeah, I thought I'd 'upgrade' to the bluetooth version and it's not the

Re: Bluetooth telephone interfaces (was: Nokia N900 // bluetooth)

2010-05-05 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 04/30/2010 09:48 AM, Benjamin Scott wrote: Geeks are less likely to accept crap when they it could be done better, and TG is certainly willing to charge a premium for quality on other items. But not willing to put up a customer reviews system... -Bill -- Bill McGonigle, Owner BFC

Re: Bluetooth telephone interfaces (was: Nokia N900 // bluetooth)

2010-05-01 Thread Jeffry Smith
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote:  My biggest beef with Bluetooth headsets is that they almost never have user replaceable batteries.  It's hard to justify spending for quality with the device is guaranteed to die after a year or two or regular usage.

Re: Nokia N900

2010-04-30 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote: you will want a bluetooth earbud or retro handset or both. Both: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/8928/ (I have one. Audio quality sucks, unfortunately.) -- Ben

Re: Nokia N900 // GPS

2010-04-30 Thread Bill Ricker
 Both: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/8928/  (I have one.  Audio quality sucks, unfortunately.) yeah it sounds gike a1g cellphone ... but it looks good and fits the ear-mouth spacing. uniting threads, OSM2Go field map-editing program works fine with N900 , although i am told the

Re: Nokia N900 // GPS

2010-04-30 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote:  Both: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/8928/  (I have one.  Audio quality sucks, unfortunately.) yeah it sounds gike a1g cellphone ... I was rather disappointed. I used the 2.5mm jack wireline version once

Re: Nokia N900 // bluetooth

2010-04-30 Thread Bill Ricker
re bluetooth retro handset I have one. Audio quality sucks, unfortunately. I was rather disappointed. I used the 2.5mm jack wireline version once (thanks, Bill McG!), and it was much better. Apparently they skimped on the electronics in this one. That's more or less true with much of

Bluetooth telephone interfaces (was: Nokia N900 // bluetooth)

2010-04-30 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote: re [ThinkGeek] bluetooth retro handset I have one.  Audio quality sucks, unfortunately. That's more or less true with much of Bluetooth telephonic (as opposed to stereo) audio. Perhaps so. Sturgeon's law. I was

Re: Bluetooth telephone interfaces (was: Nokia N900 // bluetooth)

2010-04-30 Thread Bill Ricker
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.comwrote: We tried a Jabra BT5020 for a desk application at work. Audio quality was mediocre. I don't like Jabra as much as I used to. Yes, most wireless is crap. That's why I asked the Frys' guy if any Jabra BT had

Re: Nokia N900

2010-04-29 Thread Bill Ricker
I'm looking at upgrading my phone. Even though I won't get 3G, I'm looking at the Nokia N900. Has anyone used it? What are your thoughts? I really like mine, it have placed my phone my Zaurus. Works well on T-Mobile 3G, 2.5G (Is that EDGE?), 3.5G (WTF is that?), and WiFi. Internet is not going

Nokia N900

2010-04-26 Thread Dan Miller
I'm looking at upgrading my phone. Even though I won't get 3G, I'm looking at the Nokia N900. Has anyone used it? What are your thoughts? ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug

Re: Nokia N900

2010-04-26 Thread Jeffry Smith
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Dan Miller rambi@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking at upgrading my phone. Even though I won't get 3G, I'm looking at the Nokia N900. Has anyone used it? What are your thoughts? That and the Motorola Backflip are the two that I'm looking at. Would appreciate any