On 2013-12-05, RedBlade7 penac...@yomomma.hot wrote:
On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 22:03:18 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
On 12/4/2013 6:53 PM, RedBlade7 wrote:
On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 19:54:24 -0800, keltonkostis wrote:
[deletia]
M$ will never win unless they shift their focus to the business
sector,
which M$
On 2013-12-05, Chris Ahlstrom ofeem1...@teleworm.us wrote:
RedBlade7 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 22:03:18 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
On 12/4/2013 6:53 PM, RedBlade7 wrote:
M$ should have shifted their focus to the M$-dependent business sector
On 2011-01-12, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
RJack u...@example.net writes:
On 1/11/2011 5:41 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
Why do you think it is that BSD Unix has not held its own in
competition with GNU/Linux?
One acronym: IBM.
IBM could not successfully compete with Windows NT with
On 2010-02-13, Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote:
JEDIDIAH The Silly wrote:
[...]
There is no ownership in derivative works.
Really? Take your meds, JEDIDIAH.
Copyright in derivative works is owned just like copyright in
non-derivative works.
Yup, by the original owner
On 2010-02-11, Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote:
Snit wrote:
Hyman Rosen stated in post b4zcn.76921$je2.9...@newsfe09.iad on 2/11/10
12:42 PM:
On 2/11/2010 2:37 PM, Alexander Terekhov wrote:
A joint work can be created without any license at all.
But when there is a
On 2009-12-18, Hadron hadronqu...@gmail.com wrote:
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de writes:
In gnu.misc.discuss Hadron hadronqu...@gmail.com wrote:
Didn't Alan boldly claim that the GPL was easy to understand?
Yes. The GPL is very easy to understand. It's USA copyright law which
is hard.
On 2009-12-18, Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote:
Hadron wrote:
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de writes:
In gnu.misc.discuss Hadron hadronqu...@gmail.com wrote:
Didn't Alan boldly claim that the GPL was easy to understand?
Yes. The GPL is very easy to understand. It's USA
On 2009-12-18, Hadron hadronqu...@gmail.com wrote:
Peter Köhlmann peter-koehlm...@t-online.de writes:
Hadron wrote:
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de writes:
In gnu.misc.discuss Hadron hadronqu...@gmail.com wrote:
Didn't Alan boldly claim that the GPL was easy to understand?
Yes. The GPL
On 2009-11-18, Rjack u...@example.net wrote:
Rjack wrote:
Alan Mackenzie wrote:
If he could actually write what he meant in plain English, in a
concise readable fashion, we'd see just how silly it was.
You probably want Shakespeare's works translated into Pig Latin but it
ain't gonna'
On 2009-10-17, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
In gnu.misc.discuss Hadron hadronqu...@gmail.com wrote:
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de writes:
In gnu.misc.discuss Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote:
Alan Mackenzie wrote:
[...]
Software writers of good faith have no difficulty at all
On 2009-05-15, Joerg Schilling j...@cs.tu-berlin.de wrote:
In article gzwol.22205$hx2.11...@newsfe19.iad,
Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com wrote:
Alexander Terekhov wrote:
The law makes it clear that the GPL cant affect the licenses to
those preexisting component parts. Again, linking doesnt
On 2009-05-14, Hadron hadronqu...@gmail.com wrote:
Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com writes:
Alan Mackenzie wrote:
We have been discussing, in the main, a single computer program,
the GCC compiler.
[deletia]
No, you are completely wrong. You do not need permission from the other
copyright
On 2009-05-14, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
In gnu.misc.discuss JEDIDIAH j...@nomad.mishnet wrote:
On 2009-05-14, Hadron hadronqu...@gmail.com wrote:
That's funny. You're still talking about. What happened to Alan's claim
that the GPL was really easy to understand?
The GPL
On 2009-05-05, Erik Funkenbusch e...@despam-funkenbusch.com wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2009 13:01:41 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
After takin' a swig o' grog, Erik Funkenbusch belched out
this bit o' wisdom:
On Tue, 5 May 2009 07:13:19 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
Nice summary of standard
On 2009-05-06, Doctor Smith iaintgotnostinkinem...@ols.net wrote:
On Wed, 06 May 2009 09:53:04 +0200, Hadron wrote:
Tim Smith reply_in_gr...@mouse-potato.com writes:
In article iq5ml.36996$i9.33...@bignews7.bellsouth.net,
Chris Ahlstrom ahlstr...@launchmodem.com wrote:
After takin' a
On 2009-05-07, Tim Smith reply_in_gr...@mouse-potato.com wrote:
In article slrnh01dri.bb5.j...@nomad.mishnet,
JEDIDIAH j...@nomad.mishnet wrote:
Not really. The only real question is what constitutes a derivative
work.
There are certain people that have an interest
On 2009-05-01, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
chrisv chr...@nospam.invalid writes:
David Kastrup belched:
chrisv writes:
Seriously. You're full of it, and you're wrong, Fuddie. As usual, your
FUD does not fly.
I don't think he is wrong here.
Well then, you're wrong, too.
And
On 2009-05-01, chrisv chr...@nospam.invalid wrote:
David Kastrup wrote:
And? There are live disks that install in 15 minutes on a good system.
There are live disks that take 2 hours (take the TeXlive DVD). There
are differences in layout and effectiveness.
How oddball a situation are
On 2009-05-01, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
chrisv chr...@nospam.invalid writes:
David Kastrup wrote:
I've been working with
various kinds of storage media since the middle of the seventies, and
dozens of operating systems.
Good for you. The average computer user also has a lot of
On 2009-04-30, Doctor Smith iaintgotnostinkinem...@ols.net wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:59:11 -0400, amicus_curious wrote:
I have on previous occasions asserted that the GPL protects nothing and
challenged the COLA fans to provide a scenario wherein anyone could actually
take an open
On 2009-04-30, DFS nos...@dfs_.com wrote:
Alan Mackenzie wrote:
In gnu.misc.discuss Doctor Smith iaintgotnostinkinem...@ols.net
wrote:
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:45:12 + (UTC), Alan Mackenzie wrote:
It seems Matt has long misunderstood the GPL.
Like 99 percent of people who through some
On 2009-04-30, DFS nos...@dfs_.com wrote:
JEDIDIAH wrote:
On 2009-04-30, DFS nos...@dfs_.com wrote:
Alan Mackenzie wrote:
In gnu.misc.discuss Doctor Smith iaintgotnostinkinem...@ols.net
wrote:
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:45:12 + (UTC), Alan Mackenzie wrote:
It seems Matt has long
On 2009-04-30, Rjack u...@example.net wrote:
JEDIDIAH wrote:
On 2009-04-30, DFS nos...@dfs_.com wrote:
Alan Mackenzie wrote:
In gnu.misc.discuss Doctor Smith
iaintgotnostinkinem...@ols.net wrote:
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:45:12 + (UTC), Alan Mackenzie
wrote:
It seems Matt has long
On 2009-04-30, Erik Funkenbusch e...@despam-funkenbusch.com wrote:
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:36:13 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:
The beauty of a gratis LiveCD is that you can try before you buy
with no muss, no fuss and no risk.
Except that a LiveCD will boot slowly, run slowly, and generally give
On 2009-04-06, Rjack u...@example.net wrote:
JEDIDIAH wrote:
On 2009-04-06, amicus_curious a...@sti.net wrote:
JEDIDIAH j...@nomad.mishnet wrote in message
news:slrngtkmgi.vvv.j...@nomad.mishnet...
GPL license offerers are much more akin to homeowners who are trying
to rip off
On 2009-04-06, Rjack u...@example.net wrote:
Thufir Hawat wrote:
On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 08:07:03 -0400, Rjack wrote:
Thufir Hawat wrote:
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:35:51 -0400, Rjack wrote:
Free Software is highly restrictive software and isn't
free at all. Permissive licensed open source code
On 2009-04-06, Rjack u...@example.net wrote:
JEDIDIAH wrote:
On 2009-04-06, Rjack u...@example.net wrote:
Thufir Hawat wrote:
On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 08:07:03 -0400, Rjack wrote:
Thufir Hawat wrote:
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:35:51 -0400, Rjack wrote:
Free Software is highly restrictive
On 2009-04-06, amicus_curious a...@sti.net wrote:
JEDIDIAH j...@nomad.mishnet wrote in message
news:slrngtkmgi.vvv.j...@nomad.mishnet...
GPL license offerers are much more akin to homeowners who are trying
to rip off their invited guests by tempting them to accept an illegal
contract
On 2009-04-06, Rjack u...@example.net wrote:
JEDIDIAH wrote:
On 2009-04-06, Rjack u...@example.net wrote:
JEDIDIAH wrote:
On 2009-04-06, Rjack u...@example.net wrote:
Thufir Hawat wrote:
On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 08:07:03 -0400, Rjack wrote:
Thufir Hawat wrote:
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:35:51
On 2009-03-23, Thufir Hawat hawat.thu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:26:59 -0400, Rjack wrote:
In the current suit Free Software Foundation Inc. v. Cisco Systems
Inc. the FSF is asking for monetary damages:
which is commercial, so the comparison fails there.
Read the Grokfud
On 2009-03-21, Thufir Hawat hawat.thu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:42:59 +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote:
Hyman Rosen wrote:
Rjack wrote:
the FSF propaganda campaign is falling flat on its ass
On the contrary, the campaign successfully led to Sun releasing Java
under the
On 2009-03-12, SomeBloke st...@stuff.com wrote:
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:36:53 -0400, Rjack wrote:
Hyman Rosen wrote:
Doctor Smith wrote:
Others use the programs for financial gain and contribute little
All users who get a copy of a Linux distribution have the right to run,
read, modify,
On 2009-02-27, Andrew Halliwell spi...@ponder.sky.com wrote:
amicus_curious a...@sti.net wrote:
What can you do with it as a connected device other than perhaps replace the
internal mapping data with a newer version?
This is hardly a compelling use. That mapping data is expensive enough
On 2009-02-26, Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com wrote:
Rjack wrote:
The X window system X10R3 was released in the spring of *1986* under the
MIT license.
The GPLv1 wasn't written until February 1989. Richard Stallman was there
at MIT during the years 1986 - 1989 during which time he decided
On 2009-02-25, Rjack u...@example.net wrote:
Richard Tobin wrote:
In article _vodnzumo53tcznunz2dnuvz_juwn...@giganews.com,
Rjack u...@example.net wrote:
I have some unfortunate news for those socialists and communists
who still believe that open source is their movement.
Who ever
On 2009-02-03, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
In gnu.misc.discuss 7 website_has_em...@www.enemygadgets.com wrote:
Hyman Rosen wrote:
Wrong fool!
No, I think you might actually be the right one.
As I write the assembler code for how a switch statement is implemented,
then I have
On 2009-02-03, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
In gnu.misc.discuss JEDIDIAH j...@nomad.mishnet wrote:
On 2009-02-03, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
In gnu.misc.discuss 7 website_has_em...@www.enemygadgets.com wrote:
Hyman Rosen wrote:
Wrong fool!
No, I think you might actually
On 2009-01-30, ZnU z...@fake.invalid wrote:
In article 857i4d20h7@lola.goethe.zz, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
wrote:
ZnU z...@fake.invalid writes:
I understand that the FSF is really, really hung up on every detail
of the GPL, but frankly, they're fanatics.
Fanatics have
On 2009-01-30, ZnU z...@fake.invalid wrote:
In article 85bptp20ty@lola.goethe.zz, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
wrote:
ZnU z...@fake.invalid writes:
In article 8563jzm30h@lola.goethe.zz, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
wrote:
Uh no. If a provision of the kind you may freely
On 2009-01-30, amicus_curious a...@sti.net wrote:
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote in message
news:85k58d226h@lola.goethe.zz...
amicus_curious a...@sti.net writes:
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote in message
news:85ocxrkkfj@lola.goethe.zz...
Try reading the GPL sometime.
Well,
On 2008-09-16, Rjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is interesting to note that compiling the source code of standard
program packages of independently authored c code (and assembler) like
the Linux kernel does not create a derivative work. Some people think
that compiling module1.c, module2.c, .
On 2008-09-17, Hyman Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
JEDIDIAH wrote:
...it also includes it's own versions of fundemental libraries.
...which still does not make the program a derivative work.
Someone just tried the same sort of thing with JK Rowling and lost.
--
Nothing today
On 2008-09-16, Rjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So over the weekend I began to think about the GPL and my general
disdain for it. For a license that is touted as 'free', it certainly
doesn't feel that way. As a libertarian, I've often found myself baffled
by the leftist stance that freedom
On 2008-08-16, Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3:mss:15936
Subject: Re: Strong Court Ruling Upholds the Artistic License (fwd)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:48:12 -0400
[deletia]
Second, the CAFC's opinion creates a
On 2008-07-22, Rahul Dhesi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
thufir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I guess that the plaintiffs decided that having the manufacturer of the
routers comply with the GPL was good enough for them, because it would
be difficult to explain in court that Verizon was not complying
On 2008-07-22, Rahul Dhesi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
JEDIDIAH [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You can force people to walk the chain all the way back to the manufacturer,
but they are still ultimately on the hook for using someone elses work without
proper authorization.
Ultimately the GPL depends
On 2008-02-14, Johnny Rocket [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 14, 4:27 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.advocacy,
chrisv [EMAIL PROTECTED] didnst hastily scribble thusly:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.advocacy,
chrisv [EMAIL
On 2008-02-15, cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 14, 5:10 pm, JEDIDIAH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2008-02-14, Banty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.advocacy,
chrisv [EMAIL PROTECTED] didnst hastily
On 2008-01-15, Hadron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ml2mst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Roy Schestowitz schreef:
/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday 15 January 2008 17:15 : \
I am not convinced that truly cool things
are happening any longer, because I am not
seeing barriers being broken
On 2006-03-10, billwg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kelsey Bjarnason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 19:31:15 +, billwg wrote:
Kelsey Bjarnason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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That's nice. I'm forced to conclude you
On 2005-10-14, Karen Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bobbie Gill wrote:
Karen Hill wrote:
I checked my inbox and look what I found:
From: Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:Karen Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC:gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org
Subject:Re: Linus
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