[Goanet] Daily Grook #608

2010-01-16 Thread Francis Rodrigues

DAILY GROOK #608
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[Goanet] New Study says Antidepressants Next to Worthless

2010-01-16 Thread Con Menezes
New studies now contradict what we were lead to believe in the past.
Who can we trust??
More here.
Con
http://www.healthiertalk.com/new-study-says-antidepressants-next-worthless-1290


[Goanet] Lamenting the Dusk, Eclipsing twiligh ts — and Gaussian geometries

2010-01-16 Thread Venantius J Pinto
Here is the first paragraph(working) of Lamenting the Dusk, Eclipsing
twilights — and Gaussian geometries, an essay in progress.

This night in the late seventies exemplified the blackness of Sumi, its wide
spectrum which incloud’s a deafening depth through a range of luscious
gradation — sumi no notan. An analogy, a metaphor gifted by my journey
having led me to study Shodo and Boku-ga. It was in Batim, the birthplace of
my mother. The night howled a storm, spraying its gaussian distribution of
electricity in streaks of lighting, which appeared to stand still above as
if this spectacular was meant only for this quiet village. The palm trees
were fleetingly projecting shadows that shivered and changed shapes,
intermingling forms and presenting fresher frights. Perhaps if one were to
make ink out of the soot of burnt palm tress—would it be as dark as the
Japanese and Chinese made sumi? The blacks appeared blacker than the
Cardinal India Ink, which had introduced to me the concept of richness—far
distant from any analogy to wealth. This was richness of tone: in depth, in
texture, coalescing into phantasmal umbras, conjured by sudden flashes into
the darkness.


I must add that I am enjoying attempting to write such essays related to art
and its effect on me.

venantius j pinto


[Goanet] Group of Seven

2010-01-16 Thread Mauricio Pereira


Babush  Co denies truck with Congress rebels, stands by Kamat


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“administrative reforms”, only the Congress dissidents were left demanding 
Digambar Kamat’s ouster. 

With only four MLAs—Pandurang Madkaikar, Pratap Gauns, Aleixo Reginaldo 
Lourenco and Dayanand Narvekar— turning up for a meeting at Mapusa on Thursday, 
the dissidents had to put off their conclave once again. They will now meet on 
Saturday. 

They had earlier postponed their meeting from Wednesday to Thursday to enable 
more MLAs to attend. Congress president Subash Shirodkar, who returned from 
Delhi with Kamat on Thursday evening, clearly indicated that there would be no 
change in leadership. 

Although unacknowledged, the Congress high command is learnt to have played a 
major role in quelling the rebellion by sending a stern message to both sets of 
rebels. When contacted in Delhi, AICC general secretary in charge of Goa B K 
Hariprasad refused to acknowledge the crisis. 

“No reports have come. No MLA has spoken to us. We cannot comment on media 
reports. No, we are not sending any emissary to Goa,” he said. But despite 
this, Madkaikar said, “We still demand a change in leadership and have 
postponed our meeting to Saturday to enable more Congress MLAs to attend.” 

On the other hand, two prominent ‘G-7’ leaders—education minister Atanasio 
Monserrate and transport minister Ramkrishna Dhavalikar—said they had never 
demanded a leadership change and that they fully backed the Kamat government. 
They claimed they only wanted administrative reforms. 

The group of seven comprises NCP MLAs Jose Philip D’Souza, Francisco Pacheco 
and Nilkanth Harlankar; MGP MLAs Ramkrishna and Deepak Dhavalikar besides 
Monserrate and Vishwajit Rane. Amid reports of the CBI filing its chargesheet 
against him in the Panaji police station attack case, Monserrate told TOI, “We 
have no right to demand a leadership change in the Congress. Our problem is the 
administration. Things are going slow, files are stuck. 

Sometimes, even when the finance minister clears our files, they get stuck with 
the joint secretary of finance. We have no issue with the CM, only with the 
finances.” The group’s reconciliatory stance was first announced by Dhavalikar 
to TOI in his chamber at the secretariat earlier in the day. “It was just a 
coincidence that the seven of us met at my bungalow at Altinho on Tuesday. We 
only discussed about streamlining the administration. We never demanded a 
change in the leadership or anything else.” 


  
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Re: [Goanet] Disgraceful Carmona Panchayat or Disgraceful

2010-01-16 Thread floriano

Dear Arwin and Ciprian,

Let us learn to say 'Jai Goa' along with 'Jai Hind'  so that we are more 
specific and do not get lost in the billion + to celebrate democracy.


All the more reason for you to  join the PPS Brigade

Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
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www.goasu-raj.org

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with conviction that  'We Shall Overcome'

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- Original Message - 
From: Arwin Mesquita arwinmesqu...@gmail.com

To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Disgraceful Carmona Panchayat or Disgraceful



Goa will become worse: day by day, week by week, month by month, year by
year unless and until majority of Goan electors change themselves for
better.



Arwin's Response: Some of us are trying to make things better via
words/action instead of just complaining; Please join us.



Jai Hind! Celebrate Democracy!!





Re: [Goanet] article

2010-01-16 Thread floriano

Joel,
Well said.
All the more reason for you to  join the PPS Brigade

Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org

PS: Fight Dirty Politics and Dirty Politicians. Join the PPS Brigade. Adorn 
your 2/4-wheeler with the PPS sticker. Show solidarity with the movement 
with conviction that  'We Shall Overcome'


PPS: PEOPLE for POLITICAL SANITY  Goa's Need of the Hour




- Original Message - 
From: Joel Moraes cuncolle...@yahoo.com
To: Goanet Reader goanetrea...@gmail.com; Goanet goa...@goanet.org; 
Goanet goanet-ow...@lists.goanet.org; goanet@lists.goanet.org

Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 12:33 PM
Subject: [Goanet] article


Colva Uzo Kone lailo?

Joel Morais



[Goanet] AISI : Bishop’s letter/message (re f. Colva CD Controversy) - I

2010-01-16 Thread JoeGoaUk
AISI : Bishop’s letter/message (ref. Colva CD Controversy) - I
 
It seems the message  came out  12 days after the hated  Colva 
Violence.
Also seems, it needed a careful study and observations besides 
many hands to put it together and hence the delay.
 
THE PARISH PRIEST OF COLVA, FR. DIOGO FERNANDES
HAD TO SUFFER A GREAT DEAL BECAUSE OF THE CD
TITLED ‘DOGUI BODMAS’,  WE EXTEND TO HIM OUR 
HEARTFELTH SOLIDARITY.  WE COMMEND  HIS
SELF-RESTRAINT AND HIS APPEAL TO HIS PARISHIONERS
TO EXERCISE THE SAME, EVEN IN THE FACE OF
DEFAMATION HE WAS BEING SUBJECTED TO. 
HE THUS BORE WITNESS TO FINE HUMAN AND
CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES.
Going by this, it appears that the priest is given a clean chit
by the church  freeing him from any allegations against him.
It’s like a protection (?)  from one best friend to another best friend.
The CD does sing about the two friends were shool/class mates 
Sharing the same bench. May be the priest is innocent.
The allegation about the pealing of the church bell and inciting or
 instigating  the Parishioners to march to the CD producers house etc
need to be properly investigate without malice towards none.  
Whatever it is, the Colva incidence of violence, by and large, 
termed as  ‘inhuman and unchristian’.
 
WE ALSO APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT  THE PARISHIONERS  
OF COLVA EXTENDTED TO THEIR SHEPERD. IN THIS THEY 
REVEALED HOW HIGHLY THEY VALUE  THEIR FAITH,
THEIR SHEPHERD AND THEIR RELIGIOUS STANDARDS.
ALSO TO BE UNDERSCORED  ARE THE EFFORTS THEY 
PUT IN TO SEE THAT SUCH ATTEMPTS ARE NOT 
REPEATED. THIS IS THE TESTING TIME FOR THEIR FATIH 
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO STANDBY THEM IN THIS HOUR
 OF PAIN AND TRIAL.
I find this whole thing contradictory with reference the contents 
under ‘A WORD ABOUT THE VIOLENCE…” 
of the same message in the next para (see the original/link) 
It’s like saying ‘well done people, and we stand by you’ on one 
hand and ‘you should not have done it that way’ on the other hand.
It also sound like it is encouraging people (including other
 Parishioners etc) to act likewise (as Colva people did)
so that no such attempts are repeated (to defame their
shepherds -Priests).
Also, when it says ‘..DEFENDING THEM (sheperds etc)  
AGAINST  UNWARRANTED ATTACKS IS 
PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE (?)
 
II
A WORD ABOUT THE VIOLENCE
THAT ERRUPTED ON THE OCCASION
As said, it is like saying ‘Don’t worry about 
what it says here, it is just to please certain
section of the society and we say it not 
because we wanted to but due to some
pressures which we also have to address 
to while handling such sensitive situations.
III
A WORD TO ARTISTES
 ON THE OTHER HAND, WE ARE HUMAN:
PRIESTS, MINISTERS, EVERYONE.
WE ARE BOUND TO FAIL SOMETIME
OR THE OTHER..
I was wondering when it says ‘everyone’  (abv)
it also includes the CD producer and the artistes?
Also, it is perfectly OK to sing or write  or 
highlight the faults of  Ministers ?
If no,  then why no one said anything about it before.
 
LET US IN OUR PARISHES AND FAMILIES
INTENSIFY OUR PRAYERS THAT ALL 
THOSE WHO HAVE SUFFERED IN THESE
DISTURBANCES PARTICULARLY THE 
COLVA PARISH PRIEST MAY EXPERIENCE
OUR SUPPORT AND SOLIDARITY IN FAITH
I would also add or amend thus
…those who have suffered in these disturbances
particularly elderly parents of the CD producer
and his 4 year old son etc who were in the house
at the time of rampage ..
When our  sheperds do what they not supposed to do,
They not only place their own reputation in danger
but our religion too.
When priests do what they not supposed
to do, then it must also be objected and condemned by all.
 
 
Bishop letter/circular
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/4268193102/sizes/l/
 
related


http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/4235915725/sizes/l/
 
JoeGoaUk adds: (coming in next post) -  II
 
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[Goanet] Colva CD Controversy etc - My Take - II

2010-01-16 Thread JoeGoaUk
Colva CD Controversy etc -  My Take - II

It appears the whole thing (Church Letter)  gives a clear message thus:
‘any attempts made to defame the shepherds be it thru songs, 
writing, drawing etc  it will  be firmly dealt with as in Colva case’
 
So far, being this side of Goa,  found no hard evidence against 
the Colva Priest apart from reading various posts/ new allegations 
including pvt mails in the internet forums etc .  
(except, the priest got transferred from Cutorim for some reasons)
 
The CD producer if found wrong  or CD is defamatory should be 
punished as per the law.
On the other hand, what it says about the priest such as allegation
having a mistress, amassing wealth etc should be thoroughly 
Investigated by an independent body not by the church or 
from Colva as we already have their verdict at hand.
 
It is wrong to say ‘all priests are bad’.  Similarly, it is also wrong to 
say ‘all priest are good’

We all know there are some bad apples in the church basket. 
It’s time now to identify such rotten apples and throw them out of the 
basket before it affects the other good apples particularly the fresh ones.
 
We as parishioners, can’t deny the fact that not is all well with some of 
our  shepherds, we know it yet we choose to remain silent simply 
because no one said anything against them for ages or due to fear 
of excommunication etc
 
Let me give you a factual example from one of my neighbouring parishes.

A section of the parishioners there do not attend the church despite 
being  the church is very near to where they live (including top or well 
know villagers).
And why they do that?
No, they did not join any religious sect, (they are still clinging on to 
the Catholic faith) but  what they say is there are not happy with their 
shepherd’s unacceptable behaviour or activities such as 
amassing wealth, lending money, owning cars, flats, socializing 
with the youth including late night drinking, 
involving with politicians, woman company  etc.
For Sunday mass etc they go to the other church which is far away 
from their houses.
If church if reading, hope it takes suo-motu cognizance of this post 
if it has received at least one complaint from such dissatisfied  
or protesting parishioners.
 
Today, they may be just 10 unhappy parishioners, it could be 
100 tomorrow.
Are we waiting until such time?
Who will be responsible for such division? 
Merely, they are our shepherds or may be they are helping us with 
free drinks, 
lending money, some favours from politicians etc etc  are we going 
to  ‘shut up’ despite knowing what goes around?
Or are we waiting till another CD comes out from this part of Goa?
(Readers should not take it as if I am targeting one particular parish)

Elsehwere, in the forums, I have compared 
 ‘ Church ministry with that of  Digu’s Ministry which is based on 
‘Samjota’ or agreements or threats?’
It seems, it consists of some disgruntled elements (or bad apples) within.

Or is it because there are some who do not believe in the 
head of the Goa church?
 
I will not elaborate much on this.
Instead, I would quote some of my past posting with pictures or 
news paper cuttings.

You may be rememeber some 2 years back the then spokesperson
 of the Church CSJP (Council for social Justice and Peace) clearly 
said ‘Politics and Mass can’t be mixed’
Also “Priest cannot campaign for elections as it divides the flock...”
Despite the above church directives, some priests 
(or rather disgruntled elements) Kept on doing  by disobeying the church.?
 
The type of  behaviour, is  it not objectionable and condemnable?
If so, what action taken so far?
Anyone? 
 
Can we really blame the CD producers, if anyone takes on this?
 

Here are some of the clippings:
 
Politics and Mass can’t be mixed 
say Fr. Marverick Fernandes Executive Secretary of CSJP
 
It says
 “Priest cannot campaign for elections as it divides the flock...”
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/513003994/sizes/l/
 
see the disgruntle elements within the church
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/message/2258
or 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/503263601/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/503263625/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/503263597/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/503230994/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/503230988/

 
A word about me:
I have nothing against the priests.
In fact, I do have some of my regulars whom I give  my hard earned 
money only to help with the sick particularly those suffering from cancer 
and AIDS.
I am a not only Catholic but was a catechist too.
I have been there, I have seen around and now the experience speaks.
As said, all I am trying to do to help identifying the bad apples
from the good ones. I don’t think it is wrong to do that.
I don’t make up things.
The thing I said about the Macazana Priest,  everything was
proved to be true. Even the case was eventually thrown out as suspected.
 
Let’s be a happy catholic 

[Goanet] WORLD DAMAN DAY - 2010

2010-01-16 Thread renebarreto
Friends of Goa !! 




World Daman Day ’10
http://web.me.com/noelgama/wdd10/Message_Board/Entries/2010/1/15_Day_of_longboarding.html
 
 
WDD-10 Launch Date!
 








Dear Damanenses and lovers of Daman (Damao),


Get set to launch the 3rd World Daman Day (20/8/10) on the 2nd of February, the 
day Damao came to be - 2nd February 1559!


In Daman itself, there’ll be the annual mass at the DMC to celebrate the feast 
of Nossa Senhora das Candeias.


The
next event in the WDD-10 calendar is the carnival (carnaval) which
coincides with Valentine’s this year!;) The various youth groups are
planning fancy dress/costume competitions followed by floats and
finally a ball on ‘Domingo Gordo,’  Sunday the 14th.



I’ll
be covering all events with my Nikon and trust you’ll do the same too
in your little corner of the world so that we can have a digital backup
of our culture in cyberspace!



And
last but most important, the theme this year is about our language -
the Portuguese spoken in Daman, our mother tongue. In this connection,
you’ll be happy to know that I received a positive response (vide two
letters) from the ambassador of Portugal in India (Delhi) to my request
for starting Portuguese language classes in Daman.



Viva Damao! Eu Falo Portuguese!


Noel Gama

Daman (Damao)


PS: I launched a Facebook fan page called, “Daman”
a few days ago and the response of Damanenes (all communities) as well
as people of other parts of the world has been great - 150 fans in a
few days!!
Friday 15 January 2010


 
 







 


1)
10th Anniversary celebrations of the GCS 2) World Goa Day
Pigrimage-Picnic to Aylesford on Bank Holiday Monday 30th August 2010
 3) Fr Agnelo's Commemoration mass- 24th Jan 2010...
Tue, January 12, 2010 5:31:06 AM
From: Fiona Lobo fiona.l...@blueyonder.co.uk...View Contact 
To: Fiona Lobo fiona.l...@blueyonder.co.uk 
 
Cc: LARA PEREIRA lara.pere...@btinternet.com 
 
 
  2 Files  Download All
SKMBT_C25309121409320.pdf (1118KB); Fina lfinal advert.docx (12KB) 


 
Hi Everyone
 
Some dates for your
diaries:
 
1. Here's an email from
Gregg Carvalho with details of the Goan Cultural Society's 10th Anniversary
celebrations!  Well done to the GCS for keeping Goans entertained for 10
years!
 
Now, I've got a
request!  
Who can translate the
title of the Konkani Tiatr, 'Vistidachi-Sun'? I don't want to hear from any of
the organisers or the actors!- only from the Goan public! As a clue, I think
‘Sun’ means daughter-in-law. 
 
Do get in touch with the
Organisers for tickets for all the planned events.



 
2. Please note that it’s also the 10th World Goa Day Anniversary this year. The 
Pilgrimage-Picnic to
Aylesford is on Bank Holiday Monday 30th of August.  Please note the date in 
your diaries!  We are looking to
have an earlier start this year so we have more ‘picnic time’ in
the afternoon. Also we thought if we brought forward the rosary and benediction
to the morning, we can have an uninterrupted picnic in the afternoon.  If
Aylesford are in agreement, we hope to have the Rosary at 10am, followed by
Mass at 10.30am and Benediction at 11.30 am.  We are also looking to
showcase Goan talent through singing, playing an instrument or performing a
comedy sketch! Plenty of time for practice between now and the end of August!  
More
details to follow in the months ahead. We hope to have more coaches available
this year in different areas in and around London . Do get in touch if you 
would like to
organize a coach in your area. Thanks. 




 
3. Finally and by no
means the least, please also see the other email below about Fr Agnelo’s
commemoration mass on Sun 24th Jan at John Fisher Church, Wimbledon
at 2pm.  A large group of Goans have been working hard for a number of
years to have Fr Agnelo beatified and canonized a Saint. Hopefully, with our
prayers and support, it may accelerate the process.
 
Do support as many of the
Goan events as possible.  No doubt as the Summer approaches events will
start to clash and we will be increasingly spoilt for choice. 
 
Please forward this email
to friends and relatives so they don’t miss out on these opportunities! 
 
Kind Regards,
 
Fiona
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[Goanet] Colva CD Controversy etc - My Take - II

2010-01-16 Thread Xanno Moidecar



Joe makes an excellent point. The Colva controversy needs to be investigated 
thoroughly and from what I have gathered the Head of the Church in Goem has to 
be UNEQUIVOCAL in his condemnation of ANY violence, irrespective of the cause.

The Church in Goem has to urgently set up a body populated by eminent Catholics 
and not just priests, to monitor, oversee and investigate any allegations of 
any immorality or illegality within the church and amongst its shepherds.

Cover-ups will only be detrimental. The huge scandals in the West which have 
blown up in our faces and severely damaged the Church should act as a desperate 
wake up call.

My exhortation to Catholic Goemcars is not to lose heart. Christians are but 
human. We make mistakes. We fail. We can be bad. We very often do not live up 
to the teachings of our Messiah.

But we have our faith. We have our beliefs. We know that GOD is merciful.

Let us ask for forgiveness and in turn forgive.

This is the crux of our faith. The is the reason of our being.

Sincerely

Xanno Moidecar








Re: [Goanet] GOA NEEDS GOOD GOVERNANCE

2010-01-16 Thread floriano

Dear Aires,
Well said.
All the more reason for you to  join the PPS Brigade

Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org

PS: Fight Dirty Politics and Dirty Politicians. Join the PPS Brigade. Adorn
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with conviction that  'We Shall Overcome'

PPS: PEOPLE for POLITICAL SANITY  Goa's Need of the Hour


- Original Message - 
From: Aires Rodrigues airesrodrigu...@gmail.com

To: goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 9:06 AM
Subject: [Goanet] GOA NEEDS GOOD GOVERNANCE


Goa Chief Minister Digambar Kamat’s only priority is to safeguard his chair.
Loot and let’s loot seems to be the agenda of the day. Rampant indiscipline
within his cabinet and party MLAs has given the government a very bad image.
...
Aires Rodrigues
Ribandar 



[Goanet] A clarification

2010-01-16 Thread George Pinto
Dear all,

A couple of recent emails on Goanet have credited me personally with doing 
something for Goa. I want to state clearly that Goa Sudharop is a result of the 
efforts of literally thousands of Goans from five continents over the last 10 
years (this is our 10 year anniversary). I deserve and take no credit (zero 
percent), all credit belongs to all the donors, supporters, well-wishers, 
volunteers, the Board, management, and representatives over the years who are 
the real names and faces of Goa Sudharop. 

I am not writing this due to humility or modesty but the reality is that the 
total is the sum of the thousands' parts, a diasporic endeavor between resident 
and non-resident Goans in a spirit of collaboration and mutual respect, all for 
the motherland they love so dearly.

On a personal note, I would to publicly thank Ibonio, our Goa Sudharop Director 
in Goa, who makes everything happen, all on a volunteer basis.

Thank you.

George Pinto 


[Goanet] Talking Photos: Welcome to Majorda Beach

2010-01-16 Thread JoeGoaUk
Talking Photos: Welcome to Majorda Beach

Nice and clean beach
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk23/4278137591/sizes/l/
 
At the beach beds
With ‘naglle petaro’
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk23/4278857778/sizes/l/

Whose footprints are these?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk23/4278858200/sizes/l/

Parasailing 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk23/4278858394/sizes/l/

the red sunset
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk23/4278858650/sizes/l/



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[Goanet] online Complaints, various Govt. Dept.

2010-01-16 Thread JoeGoaUk
One full page ad came in today’s NT
With list of  nodal  Public grievance officers
 
The same list available here
http://grievance.nic.in/cpgrams/pgo.asp

Home page
http://pgportal.gov.in/

I wish there was one in Goa as Goa Govt boasting about it IT policy


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[Goanet] Rajan Parrikar and GBA

2010-01-16 Thread John Gomes
 Whilst I do not subscribe to RPs bombastic language and diatribes,I agree with 
Arwin Mesquita. Another person like that is Soter. We need all the help we can 
get and getting together is only a beginning.Staying together is crucial. I 
myself am so frustrated with our government,that I feel like doing violence and 
eliminating not only three famous idiots, but all of them! However Venita 
Coelho has suggested civilised and democratic means, and whether it will work 
with uncivilised and undemocratic shelfish people is the moot question that 
Rajan and Soter are battling with. Everyone has thei own life to live.Everyone 
makes mistakes.Time is running out.Irreversible damage is being done.Right now 
the politicians and vested interests are getting restless with the grass roots 
movements and agitations building up.Please let us all try to help each other 
within our limitations and whatever way we choose to without belitting each 
other. This gladdens the
 Rulers! The AIM is the same. One for all and all for One should be our motto. 





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Re: [Goanet] Colva CD Controversy etc - My Take - II

2010-01-16 Thread Mervyn Lobo
JoeGoaUk wrote:
 We as parishioners, can’t deny the fact that not is all well with some of 
 our  shepherds, we know it yet we choose to remain silent simply 
 because no one said anything against them for ages or due to fear 
 of excommunication etc
 


First of all, let me congratulate you for attempting to tackle a thorny subject.
 

For some reason, Catholics, all over the world, are hesitant to expose their
priests that have gone astray. When these 'strayers' are pointed out, the
Catholic church drags its feet rather than clean its house. In the west, 
thankfully, 
the courts are not afraid to try the 'religious' that break civic laws.
 

 
I grew up in a Catholic church in Africa that did a lot of good work. I still 
think that 
95% of the Catholic priests/nuns are intent on providing for those in need. 
However, 
there are people who are abusing their 'religious' power. This abuse will only 
get 
worse as the abusers are now finding out that even when they are 
caught/exposed, 
it is extremely rare for any religious organization to take the appropriate 
action.
 
 
As for your comment on ex-communication, I guess it's still a potent force in 
Goa. 
In my opinion, any religious organization that has to use fear to keep its 
members 
in place is in trouble. 
 
 


 A section of the parishioners there do not attend the church despite 
 being  the church is very near to where they live (including top or well 
 know villagers).
 And why they do that?
 No, they did not join any religious sect, (they are still clinging on to 
 the Catholic faith) but  what they say is there are not happy with their 
 shepherd’s unacceptable behaviour or activities such as 
 amassing wealth, lending money, owning cars, flats, socializing 
 with the youth including late night drinking, 
 involving with politicians, woman company  etc.

 
 
 
Once again, there are only a few 'rogue elements' in the church and yet for 
some unfathomable reason, the Catholic church refuses to cleanse itself. 
Personally, I think that anyone who has understood the message of Christ 
need not go to church every Sunday. If s/he he is true a follower of Christ, 
the person would have learnt to live and behave like Christ.
 
 
My disappointment on the Colva situation is that the church bells were
rung to call the 'faithful' to action. And the action was for the 'faithful' to 
go 
and stone someones house. This seems to be of no concern to the head 
of the Catholic church in Goa.
 
 
Mervyn Lobo
 
PS. Before anyone starts speculating, I am Catholic. The only time the 
Catholic church has disappointed me before was when they refused to 
baptize my child because her mother is non-Catholic. The irony of the
situation was that for the previous 30 years, I had contributed generously 
for the missions that were converting people to Catholism. I got around 
the baptism situation by bringing in my Jesuit uncle from India to baptize 
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[Goanet] Goa new home for B'bay girls?

2010-01-16 Thread Mauricio Pereira

Goa police has said that bar girls displaced after a ban on dance bars in 
Mumbai are making Goa their second home.

DGP B S Bassi, briefing media persons on Friday said due to closure of dance 
bars and Goa's tourism profile, there is influx of these girls in the state.

Goa being a tourist destination and due to the closure of dance bars in the 
neighbouring state of Maharashtra, there is an influx of such elements in the 
state of Goa, the statement by DGP reads.

The statistics provided in the annual review mentions that in the year 2008, 
the crime branch arrested 10 accused and rescued 12 girls from their custody.

In the year 2009, crime branch arrested five accused and six girls were 
rescued, it adds.
  
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[Goanet] Bicholim locals urged to fight against mining transportation

2010-01-16 Thread samir umarye
-- 
Samir Umarye

BICHOLIM, JAN 15
Taking serious note of the mining transportation through Bicholim city,
Bicholim MLA Rajesh Patnekar and Bicholim Municipal Council (BMC) Chairman
Satish Gaonkar have urged the people from Bicholim to support them in their
agitation.
Addressing a press conference in the city, Bicholim MLA Patnekar said since
the last three-four years, the city has been experiencing the problem of
mining traffic, which comes from Maharashtra.
“Some mines, which were closed down since the last 35 years, have been
restarted, as there is a demand for ore in the foreign market, due to which
there is an increase in mining trucks plying from Maharastra and Sirsaim
through Bicholim,” said Patnekar.
It may be recalled that since the last four years, there has been constant
agitations in the taluka in protest against the mining transportation.
Besides trucks from Sirsaim, trucks proceeding from Maharastra, which enter
the State, use the roads in Bicholim.
The agitations have been sparked off mostly due to accidents, pollution,
overloading of mining trucks and police authorities’ incompetence in keeping
a check over mining. The agitations only led the traffic to stop for some
time, which would resume after about two to three days.
“We are fed up with the issue and want to solve it on urgent basis. Being
the representatives of the public, we have to face them and we feel that the
issue could be solved only if public support us,” said Patnekar.
“Some politicians are involved in mining activities and they always try to
cause hindrance to our attempts. I had even raised the issue in the assembly
session,” he added.
“In view of this, we have convened a meeting in BMC hall on Tuesday at 6.30
pm,” informed Patnekar.
He appealed to the PTA members of the schools, parents and all those
affected by mining to support the cause.
BMC Chairman Satish Gaonkar said the issue could be solved only if they get
support from the public.
“We urge the people to assemble for the meeting, where the problem faced by
them will be discussed and further plan will be chalked out,” said Gaonkar.
Later, the delegation met Bicholim PI Harish Madkaikar and explained the
problems faced by the public. PI Madkaikar assured that the defaulters
involved in overloading mining trucks would be fined to get the situation
under control.
BMC Councillors Bhagwan Harmalkar, Ajit Birje, Kamlakar Teli and others were
present for the meeting.


[Goanet] Crime in the Bahamas

2010-01-16 Thread Samir Kelekar
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_989.html

And we are complaining about crime in Goa!

Incidently, three separate groups of tourists were robbed in Nassau, where
our Jose Colaco stays! ;-)

samir


CRIME: The Bahamas has a high crime rate. New
Providence Island in particular has experienced a spike in crime that
has adversely affected the traveling public. Pickpocketing and theft
remain the most common crimes perpetrated against tourists. However,
there has been a spate of more violent criminal activity in 2009. Three
separate groups of tourists were held at gunpoint and robbed at popular
tourist sites in and near Nassau; each of these incidents occurred
during daylight hours and involved groups of more than eight persons.
Several other groups of tourists allegedly were victims of armed
robbery at more remote locations. 
 The U.S. Embassy
has received reports of assaults, including sexual assaults, in diverse
areas such as in casinos, outside hotels, or on cruise ships. In
several incidents the victim had reportedly been drugged. The Bahamas
has the highest incidence of rape in the Caribbean according to a 2007
United Nations report on crime, violence, and development trends. Much
of the violent crime occurs outside of areas frequented by tourists,
such as the “over-the-hill” section of Nassau. Two American citizens
were murdered in Nassau in 2009, both allegedly in residential areas.
Home break-ins, theft, and robbery are not confined to any specific
part of the island. 
 The upsurge in
criminal activity has also led to incidents which, while not directed
at tourists, could place innocent bystanders at risk. An altercation at
a major resort resulted in the shooting of two security officers, while
several daytime robberies in Nassau led to exchanges of gunfire on busy
streets. 
 Criminal activity
in the outlying family islands does occur, but on a much lesser degree
than on New Providence Island. The Embassy has received reports of
burglaries and thefts, especially thefts of boats and/or outboard
motors on Abaco and Bimini. 
 The Embassy has not
received reports of harassment or hate crimes motivated by race,
religion, or citizenship. There have been reports of harassment of
persons based on sexual orientation. In addition, women have reported
incidents of verbal harassment and unwanted attention. 
 Counterfeit and
pirated goods are available in The Bahamas. Transactions involving such
products may be illegal under Bahamian law, even though those laws are
not routinely enforced. In addition, bringing such products into the
United States may result in forfeitures and/or fines. 
 Some organized
crime activity is believed to occur in The Bahamas, primarily related
to the illegal importation and smuggling of illicit drugs or human
trafficking. The Bahamas, due to its numerous uninhabited islands and
cays, has historically been favored by smugglers and pirates. Most
visitors to The Bahamas would not have noticeable interaction with
organized crime elements; however, persons who operate their own water
craft or air craft should be alert to the possibility of encountering
similar vessels operated by smugglers engaged in illicit activities on
the open seas or air space in or near The Bahamas. 
 Visitors are
advised to report crime to the Royal Bahamas Police Force as quickly as
possible. Early reports frequently improve the likelihood of
identifying and apprehending suspected perpetrators In general, the
Royal Bahamian Police Force is responsive to reports of crime and takes
the threat of crime against tourists very seriously. However, the
police response is sometimes slowed by a lack of resources or by the
physical constraints imposed by geography and infrastructure. 
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Re: [Goanet] From one RG to another an open letter

2010-01-16 Thread Tony de Sa
Halleluja, I am saved. I am convinced. The pro-west chest thumpers have
finally made me see the light of the day.

*There is no racial prejudice in the West or Australia*

I am convinced..

I have bought and sold property in London, Gold Coast and Melbourne. So
have other Goans, Malyasians, Chinese and Vietnamese and other non-white
people, resident or non-resident, citizens or non-citizens. There are no
WASP-only localities -?the first time I have heard it?mentioned, was by you.
Blah blah. [GABRIEL De F]

Also read the posts of Mario G in similar vein.

But then can someone explain to me why so many Indian students in Australia
are being abused and killed, or so many Indian students being killed in good
ole U S of A? or the 'dots' group that killed Indians because they wore
bindis? Or Canadian children of Goan origin who call their parents PAKIs (I
have actually witnessed this) Why is the term PAKI derogatory? Why if you
are dark skinned and spout Spanish you are likely to be called a 'SPIC? A
lot of Goans could be classified as spics. I could go on and on.

But then there is no, repeat, there is no racial discrimination in the west,
is there (according to the chest thumpers)? Only aberrations.

Have a nice day bashing the next coolie.

Regards,
Tony


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Re: [Goanet] From one RG to another an open letter

2010-01-16 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
Dear Samir,

Perhaps if you'd read that article properly, you would have noticed it said:
The hype in the Indian media over racial attacks on Indian students in 
Australia would suggest that thousands of Indian students have been victims of 
such attacks over the past two years. This is not true..  The hype in the 
Indian media says it all.  No boot-licking here - perhaps it is yourself who 
is doing licking vigorously somewhere and having a very sore tongue by now, 
perhaps why you think all of us rest are boot-lickers as well. 

A dispassionate look at the recent attacks on Indian students reveals some 
distinct patterns that are not exactly racist. First, the attacks have been on 
students and not on long-term residents working as skilled professionals.
...
In addition, there are a sizeable number of people of Indian origin from 
countries such as Fiji, Malaysia, Kenya and South Africa.
...
the attackers were a polyglot mix, reflecting the streets – whites, Asian, 
Middle Eastern, Aboriginal and Pacific Islander. In one case, the alleged 
assailant was of Middle Eastern appearance. In another incident, a young 
offender described as “Aboriginal” committed the attack.
...
The Australian police are not far from truth when they describe the attacks as 
largely motivated by opportunity because Indian students work late at night, 
live in low-cost and usually crime-prone neighborhoods, and are regarded as 
soft targets.
...
The latter categories of students are actually migrants desirous of working as 
taxi drivers, carpenters and attendants in shops and hotels. Most do not mix 
with locals and live in virtual ghettoes, something that does not go well with 
the local population.
...
Why is it that one does not hear of similar incidents involving Chinese 
students, who number more than 120,000 in the country?

I hope the rest of the readers make up their own minds from the above excerpts 
of the article that Samir pointed out, pointers Salus  I had mentioned in past 
emails.

Gabriel.

PS No more from me on this topic.

- Original Message 
 From: Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com
 To: Goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Sent: Sat, 16 January, 2010 4:02:53 PM
 Subject: [Goanet] From one RG to another an open letter
 
 Gabriel writes:
 So the prejudice, dear Tony, is in your mind.  
 
 Racist attacks endanger Indo-Australian ties.
 http://www.upiasia.com/Society_Culture/2010/01/15/racist_attacks_endanger_indo-australian_ties/1520/
 
 I guess your response to this would be like that of Shantaram
 Naik ---  blame the victim. Your buddy Salus has already echoed
 that boot-licking mentality here in another post.
 
 regards,
 Samir



  
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Re: [Goanet] From one RG to another an open letter.

2010-01-16 Thread lyrawmn




--- On Wed, 1/13/10, Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com wrote:
 
But you black skinned American/ Britisher/ Australian/ Canadian
just try buying property in a WASP only locality. Racial prejudice may not
be overt but it is still there. You are still a 'second class' citizen no
matter how you console yourself.

I. Nunes questions:
 
After having in effect ceded control of North Goa to white foreigners who 
actively and overtly discriminate against native Goans and Indians as 
publicized, what does that say of the status quo in Goa,  Mr. D'Sa? 

Do you still maintain First Class status, albeit a subjugated status in your 
own land? 
 
Further, and importantly, how do you reconcile the pervasive and corrosive 
caste system with your ideals of equality and opportunity for all Goans? 
 

 





[Goanet] Asia's greatest missionary: Bl. Joseph Vaz - HERALD(Goa), Jan 16, 2010

2010-01-16 Thread Valmiki Faleiro



ASIA'S GREATEST MISSIONARY: BL. JOSEPH VAZ
By Valmiki Faleiro

The greatest Catholic missionary produced by Asia was a Goan. Blessed Joseph
Vaz (April 21, 1651-January 16, 1711, both days, incidentally, Friday), is now 
Patron
of the Goa Archdiocese. He was born in the house of his mother, Maria de 
Miranda,
at Pulvaddo-Benaulim. His father, Cristovam Vaz, was from Sancoale, where Joseph
grew up. He was the third child of his parents.

Joseph initially studied in Benaulim, then in Sancoale and later in the then 
capital
city, Old Goa. He was ordained in 1674/6. Of deep intellect, he was already a 
young
renowned preacher while still in Goa, with rare honours of being confessor and
spiritual guide to Portuguese noblemen and two Governors.

He first practiced and then preached. That conviction enabled ready acceptance. 
He
went to Mudippu-Mangalore in 1681 as Vicar Forane, an arduous four-year mission
that would earn him the title of 'Apostle of Canara.'

Dutch Calvinists, who conquered Ceylon from the Portuguese in 1658, persecuted
Catholics and suppressed Catholicism there. With zeal to resuscitate and spread 
the
faith in Ceylon, Joseph joined India's first native religious order, the 
Oratory of St.
Philip Neri founded three years before, in 1685, and became its second 
Superior. He
begged of the founder to resume the post and relieve him for the mission in 
Ceylon.

Two years later, disguised as a porter, to avoid arrest, he landed in the 
island nation
on January 3, 1687 together with Joao, his trusted tribal co-villager from 
Sancoale,
cook and attendant (my brother.) Two other confreres who had set forth with 
him
from Goa turned their backs in Kerala. Clad in a plain loincloth (the Mass kit 
hidden
within), his entry must have been smooth, for he was of local skin colour, not 
that of a
European missionary. The law prohibited locals from sheltering a Catholic 
priest,
under the pain of death for both the provider and the priest. But Joseph was a 
man
who, by his very pious presence, made people feel secure.

Braving vicious adversity, initially from the Dutch and later from native 
Buddhists, he
rekindled the faith ... at times (as in Tuticorin and Jaffna) publicly wearing 
the beads
of Rosary around his neck! In 1689, Bishop of Cochin Pedro Pacheco appointed him
Vicar-General of Ceylon.

He worked heroically - alone - for nine years, in 11 or 12 missions in Ceylon
(starting two new missions in Puttalam and Kandy) before being joined by his
confreres from Goa. During that lonely decade in an alien land, he must have
followed Apostle Paul's advice to Timothy: be careful always to choose the 
right
course, be brave under trials, make preaching your life's work.

Choosing the right course, given his intellect, is what Joseph evidently did. He
indigenized the Sri Lanka church, about three centuries before Vatican-II 
thought of
the idea, unlike the Portuguese who tried to impose a European modeled church in
Goa, the Malabar and in other Asian missions. His Kunnbi (my brother) 
companion,
Joao, was by now sufficiently instructed to be ordained priest. But no bishop 
of those
days would dare ordain a tribal in a caste-driven society.

Joseph lived 300 years before his time.

He had mastered the Sinhalese and Tamil languages of the island, by himself,
working late into the night by an oil lamp during his 3-year imprisonment in Kandy. 
It is said that both Buddhists and Muslims felt drawn to him. (He compiled a lexicon

for future use by his confreres and encouraged its study by his mate from 1705,
Fr. Jacome Gonsalves, later doyen of Catholic literature in Ceylon.)

In 1707, he organised an unimaginably bold resistance against Dutch domination 
in
western Ceylon. He issued a pastoral letter to Catholics there to assert 
publicly their
right to freedom of conscience and protest Dutch laws that forced their 
children to
attend Calvanist schools and kirk (church.) The Dutch did not yield to the 
demand,
but native Catholics consolidated their identity.

When the 'Apostle of Sri Lanka' died there after 24 years of ceaseless work,
generally in hiding and often in bad health, the faith was once again firmly 
rooted and
spread in the emerald island-nation. Eminent Jesuit missiologist Pierre Charles 
called
him a perfect model of an Apostle.

Bishop Vianney Fernando of Kandy-Ceylon described his apostolate as an
unparalleled missionary endeavour in the history of Sri Lanka. The Archbishop-
Patriarch of Goa called him an intercessor on our behalf, a son of our race, a
product of our culture and ethos, and a model of our way of being Church. The
Vatican Postulator James M. Fritzpatrick said Bl. Vaz remains a Goan; he is 
flesh of
your flesh, bone of your bone. Pope John Paul-II described him as a son of 
Asia
who became a missionary in Asia.

His name inspired fellow-Goans in their missions. Notable Goan missionaries like
Mons. (Dr.) Hipolito da Costa (1866-1912) from Chinchinim followed his example 
in
politely 

[Goanet] Some New VCDs

2010-01-16 Thread JoeGoaUk
VCD No. 287 
PALKAILIM KANTARAM  by Velito Production
Old stage songs taken from Anthony sylvestor’s Tiatr VCD?
With 3 king, Jancinto Vaz, H Briton, Greg, Sabina, Alfred Rose,
Jusephin, Jr. Rod etc etc
Rs.150   Dec. 2009
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr4/4279460170/
(don’t have this VCD as the song available with the other 
Tiatr VCDs owned already)
 
VCD No 288 (rpt)
NIRAXEAK AXEA by Cruz Pinto
With Clara, Janet, Selvy, Osvy, ConniM, Joaquim Cabral etc etc
Rs.150 Jan. 2010
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr4/4265936321/

VCD No 289
VANTTO  by Felisberto Velho
With  Annie, Com Sally, Tari, Jesica, Pascoal etc
Rs.150    Jan.2010
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr4/4279461366/
 

VCD No. 290
GOEMCHEM NISSONTON by Agnelo Da Costa
5th VCD
With Agnelo, Bushan, Bab Andrew,  Agusto, Com. Marcus, 
Com Jesus etc
Rs.150    Jan/2010
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr4/4278715711/

VCD No. 291
VISRO KOSO TUKA by ELICKS
With Buska, Com Sally, Com Marcus  etc etc
Rs.150   Jan/2010
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr4/4278716285/
 
VCD No. 292
CONCEPTON NELSON ANTHONY by Santan H Viegas
With Peter-Roshan, Joaquim-Cybel Cabral, Lawry,
 Ezilda-Dorothy, Socoro de Sta. Cruz, Marcus Vaz etc etc
Rs. 150   Jan/2010
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr4/4279460826/
 
rpt
VCD No. 283 ( rpt as VCd Cover pic now uploaded)
TOURIST by Anthony Sylvester
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr4/4278715137/
Stage Tiatr recording
Rs.200    Dec. 2009
(don’t have this VCD, watched the Tiatr)
A stage pic
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a trailer 
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[Goanet] Goa news for January 17, 2010

2010-01-16 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Goa crisis blown over as troubleshooting by Congress begins
- Daily News  Analysis
ews/Congress-calls-meet-of-Goa-MLAs-to-discuss-leadership-issue/567343/usg=AFQjCNG1vPraLx-_nuPnM5zlxUPYYCFs-wCongress
calls meet of Goa MLAs to discuss leadership issue
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_goa-crisis-blown-over-as-troubleshooting-by-congress-begins_1335237usg=AFQjCNEZElmRKrHS_C5ppkow6MDX0HzHvA

*** Goa new home for displaced Mumbai bar girls - Press Trust
of India
ar-girls-making-Goa-police-dance-/articleshow/5452160.cmsusg=AFQjCNEEsOxn5I8TLIUaMiN0EFRfTuSGwQMumbai's
bar girls making Goa police 'dance'
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.ptinews.com/news/471589_Goa-new-home-for-displaced-Mumbai-bar-girlsusg=AFQjCNGZDMeZ9at6IbVrK4pzuY6nFp4fMw

*** India's H1N1 death count 1113 - TheMedGuru
ore-swine-flu-deaths-india-toll-rises-1114usg=AFQjCNEYXGl9jNR5snCUhm4Ih3BMni2j_Q3
more swine flu deaths in India, toll rises to 1114
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.themedguru.com/20100116/newsfeature/india-s-h1n1-death-count-1-113-86131825.htmlusg=AFQjCNEuyHnOVvAMgurUBqEtUY4mmCOzKw

*** Laxmikant Parsekar to head BJP Goa unit - Press Trust of
India
arsenkar-to-head-goa-bjp_100304990.htmlusg=AFQjCNFv_IRAtPEgfT47FuPy2VNQk3ttVQLaxmikant
Parsenkar to head Goa BJP
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.ptinews.com/news/471790_Laxmikant-Parsekar-to-head-BJP-Goa-unitusg=AFQjCNH5_sEvj3n_lUzI78kssv80LKf0Jg

*** I-League Preview: Churchill Brothers - Sporting Clube de
Goa - Goal.com
tories/Sporting-hold-Churchill-to-a-goalless-draw/articleshow/5453539.cmsusg=AFQjCNExmfuHBECgwwnftZX4LaKYdaXGfQSporting
hold Churchill to a goalless draw
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/1064/i-league/2010/01/16/1746984/i-league-preview-churchill-brothers-sporting-clube-de-goausg=AFQjCNF2By6inZd0QV7UL-RH5aM_i9YZGg

*** Loss of innocence, total sell out at own peril - Deccan
Herald
ccan HeraldThere was a time when Goa was India's virgin
territory. In the minds of many, that status of inviolate purity
has never left the subconscious. ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.deccanherald.com/content/47168/loss-innocence-total-sell-own.htmlusg=AFQjCNFnbXbtXI5faFo-QWJS4eCitIBNtw

*** Repair work abruptly stopped; bridge re-opened to traffic -
Times of India
pened on Friday night after unsuccessful attempts to repair the
bridge by replacing the bearings. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hubli/Repair-work-abruptly-stopped-bridge-re-opened-to-traffic/articleshow/5453771.cmsusg=AFQjCNHsbCPIjKkWgZxEhDHwmd-aJCdZWw

*** Goa in both the finals in National Baseball - Press Trust
of India
ess Trust of IndiaCuttack (Orissa), Jan 16 (PTI) Both the men
and women teams of Goa stormed into the final in their
respective categories at the 24th Senior National ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.ptinews.com/news/471779_Goa-in-both-the-finals-in-National-Baseballusg=AFQjCNFT3R9fpVHFRJQcsgM0KAuO_S71VQ

*** Goa Congress ask MLAs not to vent anger against party in
public - Daily News  Analysis
ily News  AnalysisPTI Panaji: Goa Pradesh Congress Committee
today resolved that its legislators should not vent out their
anger in public against the party leadership. ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_goa-congress-ask-mlas-not-to-vent-anger-against-party-in-public_1335568usg=AFQjCNGUGgfVfI2_K_eNZNOw4ByTUOJnyQ

*** Acron Developer's Villa Julieta: Home away from home -
Economic Times
tyle ambience, ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/features/the-sunday-et/property/Acron-Developers-Villa-Julieta-Home-away-from-home/articleshow/5454366.cmsusg=AFQjCNG_hiNWT3hoC4YL_xGRIcgEYmBHKw


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[Goanet] Toxic plastic toys sold in India

2010-01-16 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Toxic plastic toys sold in India.  See below

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8461298.stm

Regards, GL





Re: [Goanet] Only in America

2010-01-16 Thread Mario Goveia
Mario wrote:

IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 1. A JOB, 2. A DRIVERS
LICENSE, 3. SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, 4. WELFARE, 5. FOOD STAMPS, 6. CREDIT
CARDS, 7. SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE, 8. FREE EDUCATION, 9.
FREE HEALTH CARE, 10. A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON 11. BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF 
PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE 12. THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY'S 
FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH RESPECT 13. A LAWYER TO DEFEND 
YOU AT NO COST TO YOU 14. AND, IN SOME INSTANCES, YOU CAN VOTE. I JUST WANTED 
TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTOOD WHAT AMERICA IS LIKE:-))

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:21:40 +0530
From: Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com

Great for the carpet beggars (pun intended). Make hay while the eclipse
shines. Lage rahe do Mario Bhai

Mario responds:

Hey, Tony, You are very welcome.  Perhaps if you take advantage of these 
facilities yourself you may forget the John Wayne movies and Pravda reports you 
have been citing, and pick up some ideas that you can use in Goa:-))





[Goanet] Harvest and other Short Stories from Goa (Ed: Manohar Shetty)

2010-01-16 Thread Frederick Noronha
Just added some information at the OpenLibrary.org about this slim book:
Harvest and other Short Stories from Goa (Ed: Manohar Shetty)
http://openlibrary.org/b/OL16901370M/Harvest_and_other_short_stories_from_Goa
-- 
Frederick Noronha
Columnist :: journalism :: editing :: alt.publishing :: photography ::
blogging


[Goanet] 20 great foods you aren't eating - Times Online

2010-01-16 Thread Con Menezes
Dear Goanetters,
Are you eating some of these Healthy foods?

Con
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article6987939.ece


[Goanet] New Alfred Rose /Melody king?

2010-01-16 Thread JoeGoaUk
New Alfred Rose /Melody king?
 
In Goan Observers’s latest issue our Daniel talks all about the new 
sing alike Afred Rose and possibly the new Melody King.
 
Here is a scanned  part copy of it
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr4/4278716867/sizes/l/

Which could mean another blow to the self-proclaimed Melody king?

I think this guy, Agnelo is the owner of alfredrose.com  site which is also 
talked about in the above article




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[Goanet] Why Is The Sealink Project Being Conceived in Haste?

2010-01-16 Thread augusto pinto
Today's GT Weekender's headlines state that Sealink gets 7 bids. This
refers to the project to link Dona Paula and Vasco by a bridge apparently.
It seems the bidding process is to be finalised by next week ; the technical
report within 6 months; the entire bidding process within 10 months.

While I don't think anyone is against better transport facilities in Goa,
the haste with which this particular project  is being sought to be
implemented seems suspicious. When public money is going to be used, the
public should be involved in deciding whether or not this idea is the most
effective solution to the transport problems in the Vasco area. And we are
talking of hundreds if not thousands of crores of rupees. Why is there so
little public debate on the matter?

Has anyone for instance assessed whether it would or would not be more cost
effective to use the money to improve the current road network? Even if a
direct link between Vasco and Panjim is needed, would not a modern ferry
service have been a better idea? What impact will this project have on the
tax payer? And on the environment?

Until the issue becomes far more transparent, on the face of it this
sea-link stinks.
Augusto Pinto


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[Goanet] Goans selling land-A myth

2010-01-16 Thread soter
Now CM Digambar Kamat calls for introspection among Goans. He blames Goans for 
selling land, a myth that has been propagated by none other than the star 
campaigner of GBA. Has anyone questioned why Goans prefer to sell their land?
If any Goan decides to keep his land, are there laws to protect that right? 
Even if there are, what is the time one has to spend in obtaining justice and 
the economics of defending this right? Are the land acquisition Act and the 
Mundkar Act behind the cause for panic that compels Goans to sell their land, 
because a bird in hand is worth two in the bush? Goans may want to do many 
things even trade their wives and daughters but the laws will not permit. What 
has stopped the Government from freezing development of hill slopes rather than 
all those shit rules of 25% gradient and average hill slope and such stuff? 
What has stopped the Government from keeping very low FAR in the villages to 
make it non-profitable for real estate developers? 
Who says that this Digambar and his gang of footsie activists want to save Goa? 
What unity among activists are guys speaking about when the interests are being 
traded on the weekends?  We Goans are experts at brushing our problems under 
the carpet, pretending that nothing is happening and thinking that no one else 
knows anything. 'Denial' is one of the primary symptoms that never allows 
recovery in addictions. So is it with our Goan society.

-Soter


[Goanet] Another Indian taxi driver beaten, abused in Australia

2010-01-16 Thread Samir Kelekar
http://www.ndtv.com/news/world/another_indian_taxi_driver_beaten_abused_in_australia.php
Viva Australia!

samir





  


[Goanet] God and You

2010-01-16 Thread Albert Desouza

Albert writes:-  Sometimes we tend to be hyper emotionals when we get to know 
about about religious heads. Our top leaders sometimes want to keep quiet for 
some personal reasons.See the CD case. I do not have the proper background of 
the case and so I shall not side any side. All the faithfuls who have tilted 
too much on the priests side did not see any reason. Anger rose to the head and 
muscles were exposed and so now lets break the house, and what ever there is 
along the road. That person must be taught a lesson.He will not venture to do 
it again. In the melee some poor people's house became roofless. What a loss 
What should be our correct atttitude ? Once after the eight o clock week day 
mass an announement was made that a priest was murdered by two non goans.After 
mass every one gathered to find out about the murder and each person was 
throwing vemon. Later on I heard lots of unwanted things about this priest . 
Since the matter was in the court I said it is better to wait and see. The 
murderers were acquited . The judge knew what judgment to give. Lots of letters 
appeared in the newspaper asking for appeal of the case which never took plan. 
Thank God the mob did not burn the police station and what ever station they 
could find on the road. Every religious leadear kept quiet why should I blow my 
own trumpet ? He is not my father in law nor my parish priest.What are we ? 
Where do you place your self in society? October month we have collected lot of 
money for the mission. I do not know where the money has gone but I am sure 
many lay people will write ens (The clergy will maintain silence as if they 
have not read) that the our priests are doing very well in Africa in the 
Mission. They are working in the remote areas and riskying their lives. What 
about us ? Don't we require the word of God ? If any Roman Catholic enters the 
camp of new born again christians there will be hue and cry. Why ! just like 
that. Some ladies will run to the parish priest and cry before him! others will 
try to meet him or his wife or his mother and pour their woes to them with a 
long complain, Sometimes the parish priest may warn you-I will not give you the 
last sacrament and burry you. This is a black mail. 
   
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[Goanet] Aussies killed in India

2010-01-16 Thread Salus Correia
We have headlines of late with stories about Indians killed in Australia.
Yes, there have been killings for whatever reasons and no one can condone
those killings.  However, there is always a proper and impartial
investigation carried out.  The same does not apply to foreigners being
killed in India.  Today I just saw a news article in the local paper and
would like to share it with you all.  Click on this link to access the
article.  

 

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/no-justice-with-aussie-deaths/stor
y-e6frf7l6-1225820411665

 

Can anyone enlighten us as to what happened to the recent Scarlett murder
case? Or the older case where the Australian missionaries were torched while
they were resting in their jeep?  Is there a justice system that works in
India?  This is a national shame.



Re: [Goanet] Goan Slaves of the High Command

2010-01-16 Thread floriano

Realization is tardy to set in.
Echoes are going round and round  for the past ten years that Goa must have 
its own High Command in GOA.


All the more reason for Goans to  join the PPS Brigade

Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org

PS: Fight Dirty Politics and Dirty Politicians. Join the PPS Brigade. Adorn
your 2/4-wheeler with the PPS sticker. Show solidarity with the movement
with conviction that  'We Shall Overcome'

PPS: PEOPLE for POLITICAL SANITY  Goa's Need of the Hour




- Original Message - 
From: Arwin Mesquita arwinmesqu...@gmail.com

To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 2:28 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Goan Slaves of the High Command


Many Goan politicians constantly invoke their supreme allegiance to the High
Commands, for whatever is decided in Delhi; whether it is in Goa's Interest
or not; that’s why we have instances like the follows:

(1) Developers like Rahejas/DLF other Non-Goan Industrialists/Hoteliers who
are rampaging thru Goa at will; as they have top connections in Delhi; who
in turn control Goan MLA's...



Arwin Mesquita, UAE 



[Goanet] ‘Mumbai To Goa Is Easy. Just Get Ou t Of Mumbai Harbour And Take A Left’ by Salil C haturvedi

2010-01-16 Thread Venantius J Pinto
From Telelka's Culture and Society section:
‘Mumbai To Goa Is Easy. Just Get Out Of Mumbai Harbour And Take A Left’
Salil Chaturvedi is 41. He is a writer who lives in Noida
(excerpt)
I remember speaking to some naval officers before leaving. ‘From Mumbai to
Goa?’ they’d say. ‘That’s easy. Just get out of Mumbai harbour and take a
left turn.’ It’s been a left turn like no other.

http://www.tehelka.com/story_main43.asp?filename=hub230110personalhistories.asp
+++
venantius


[Goanet] Aitaracheo Katkutleo: Another Highly Controversial Song? 'LAITANA DORLO'

2010-01-16 Thread lino dourado
  
Another Highly Controversial Song?
 
 LAITANA DORLO
Tum ganvan sarko ek rit-dekicho monis zaun bhonvtta
Tujer vaitt ulounk ganvchea lokak chance na re melltta
Kamank veche adim sodanch tum igorjek Misak veta
Jevonn soddit, kumuneanv ghenvcho mat chukoina ixtta
CHORUS
Vaddean konnui lhan-vhodd ekdom borona zalear monis
Tanchea duensan tum vantto gheta zaun ek korelo ixtt
Tea pasot sobit tornnea cheddvanchi asa tujer dixtt
Tujea rupkarak bulttat nokom zaun tuje vaitt gunnache vis
II
Zugar khelltoleancher tuzo asa ekdom koddok virudh
Tornatteank hea vesnacho pois ravunk dita bori budd
Dekunuch ganvche avoy-bapaink tum ek sorgincho dutt
Punn tuje bhitorlea korneancho konnui noko koro gutt
CHORUS
Tujean ganvchea lokak ani somestank ghoddie fottounk zait
Punn mhaka fottounk sorpem nhoi atam mhojem aik re Bobit
Mhaka-i khuxi asli tuje bhaxen zaunk ek somaz-sevok pandit
Tuka lagon mhaka konn lagim ghena, monis nhoi hanv nitt
III
Tum manachi nokri korta zhoddun hozaranche hozar benkant
Hem khorem, keddnanch nagoina nhoi mhunn dukhoina yerank
Tuzo masugecho sobhav vochun bosla lokachea re kallzan
Tuka ek vaitt ogunn asa mhunn, ganvcho lok mat nennan
CHORUS
Filsu-chea barar bhitor sortona tuka hanvem pois sanv choilo
Soro piyepi nhoi, borelo monis barar kitem korta dubau poddlo
Tuje pattlean yevn tum kitem korta pollenvk ogich ubo ravlo
Hanvem justuch tuka, Filsu kodde Kalyan motko laitana dorlo.
 
VOILEA KANTARACHI SOMZONI: Tum soglleancho mogacho zatoch, konna ekleak tori 
tuji nosai zata. Tuzo osokt bindu vo weak point sodunk bhonvtat. Tuka, ganvchea 
lokachea nodre mukhar, sokllak udovpak vavurtat. Ganvan, Bobit zaun asa 
sogleanchea mogacho. Konnakui adarak pavpi ani borem asa tench sangpi. Ganvche 
bhurge zugar khelltat mhunn, sorkarachea mozotin ganvan ek vhodd moidann ubem 
kelem ani hea khatir ganvcho lok, taka dinvastat. To Filsugelea barar, ( 
konnank kolona toxem) ek chondd (hobby) koso, keddna-i Kalyan motko khellta. 
Nhoi dudvanche axek lagon. Chukon, Kaliyan ankddo ailear, te duddu apleak 
dovorinastana, ganvchea bhurgeank khellacheo vostu vikot ghevnk upeg korta. Ani 
ham! Thodde bhov aplea bolsantle duddvanchi dhengi bhi diunk to fattim na. Udar 
monan dita. Az nhoi falleam anikui nanv ibadd korcheleo CD vo VCD bhair sorcheo 
asat. Duddu komovpacho ho ek fuddarak dhonddo zatlo? Velluch sangtolo
 
EK KODDOK XIDDKAVNNI: Kantaracho thoddo vo ak’kho bhag, bhouxik zagear (public 
places) vo tiatran vo VCD rupan gavpak, konnakuch sotea na. Sotea dovorlea 
fokot nhanean nhateleank. Mhonnchem, 'bathroom singers  only'
 
Lino B. Dourado







Re: [Goanet] Blessed Jose Vaz and Padr Agnelo

2010-01-16 Thread Alfred de Tavares



 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:33:12 +
 From: xanno_moide...@yahoo.co.uk
 To: goa...@goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet] Blessed Jose Vaz and Padr Agnelo
 
 500 odd years of Catholicism and not one canonisation.  We are stranded with 
 two semi-saints and no light at the end of the tunnel.
 
 Why?
 
 I have my theories. Here goes:
 
 (1)   The church in Goem is divided.  Caste having been such a huge part of 
 our lives, we have yet to exorcise this ghost.  It is time the head of the 
 church in Goem does something dramatic nay drastic to right this wrong.
 

In the Church in Goa is there really a division or a difference of opinion: The 
one can be vicious...detrimental to
the edifice; the other, healthy and constructive.

If at all you are hankering after...dramatic...drastic aaction you have ample 
scope attending the Vidhan Sabha... 

 (2)   Goemcars do not have sufficient financial clout to sway the power 
 brokers in Rome.

Do they not? You will be surprised how many positions of high-  mid-level 
significance, in the Vatican, are
held by Goansand, according to their peers, most successfully executed.
 
 (3)   There are no Goemcar nuns catering at the Vatican, unlike Kerala. Their 
 nuns I believe literally run the papal household.  Keralites are getting 
 canonised in droves.
 
Goodness gracious me...what silly tales have reached you, or, you are fancying? 
At the time of a canonisation, some years ago, when living accomodation, around 
the Vatican, was nigh impossible, I  family, were put up by Goan nuns, at the 
convent of San Giuseppe di Aparazione, a stone throw from the Vatican walls, on 
Via Paulo lll, a grand place in a spacious luscious park.

The hosting nun excused herself from personally attending us, being related, 
because, due to the exigencies of the canonisation she, and her girls, Goan 
nuns most of them had been given extraordinary duties. I met many others during 
our week-long stay, all of them variously engaged in the Vatican. I visited 
two, in our compound, elderly nuns, retired after long service there.

There are many (in this case, literally 'droves'), of nuns from Kerala, working 
there.

Runing the the Papal household is quite another kettle of fish. Who has ever, 
besides perhaps, Dan Brown in his 
fantasies, toured the said premisses. 

I, presume, without personal inspection, that the Papal household, like any 
other palatial or otherwise, would require any number of services: From 
attending to the Pontiffs personal needs to those of the scullery.

Keralites are not, have not been, canonised in droves. There is just one 
Keralan, Santa Alphonsa, cannonized in 2008.

Yes, there have, indeed, been  500 odd years of Catholicism in Goa.

But, perhaps, you are overlooking, or ignorant, that Kerala has been Christian, 
quite an exemplary one despite most caste-astrigent, for the past two millenia 
plus. Ever hear of Thomas, the Apostle? He, himself, has been credited to have 
baptized the first Christians, in Karala, with the same hand that he had, at 
the invitation of his Master, plunged into the speared wound, in Jesus' side.


 (4)   The church in Goem needs a crash course in public relations.

Have you attempted to offer your services...do you really feel qualified? If 
you so desire  are unaware how to go about it apply to the excellent Fr. 
Joaquim Loiola, at the Patriarchal Palace; at best you may receive a, not 
crash, but indepth, course in'nit from him.
 
 (5) Goemcars are evil or maybe just not holy enough.
 
Please, mon, pray speak for yourself...

 I may be wrong.  But then what other reasons can there be?

That you, most certainly, are...well off the bend...
 
 Mother Theresa.  John Paul 2.  Great people.  I love them.  But sainthood in 
 under a decade?
 
 The Roman Catholic Church cannot find one, one Goemcar; fit for the greatest 
 honour it can bestow?
 
 Sincerely
 
 
 
 Xanno Moidecar

A parting shot: A pseudonym, may be OK in dealing trash, hardly the matter your 
are, so clumsily, trying to tackle.


Yours, through the Blessed José Vaz,
Alfred de Tavares,
Stockholm, 2010-01-16

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[Goanet] Cuncolim Civic and Consumer Forum meeting on Sunday 17th January

2010-01-16 Thread Goa Desc
 
Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your
family members, relatives, neighbours and friends.
Help other CONSUMERS to be better informed.


Cuncolim Civic  Consumer Forum meeting

The Cuncolim Civic and Consumer Forum (CCCF) will have its
monthly general meeting of consumers on Sunday 17th January
at 10.30am at Our Lady of Health High School, Cuncolim.

Among the issues to be discussed are Oil  Gas Conservation,
Safety at Industrial Estate Factories, CMC  District Planning Committee,
Upgradation of Sub Health Centres at Biunsa  Veroda, Garbage Management
proposals and consumer initiatives for the new Market Complex and KTC Bus
stand,

Various service related issues like Post Office, PWD Water
Supply, Goa Dairy Milk, Ration  Kerosene supply, Home
Delivery of LPG cylinders, Banking, BSNL Telephones 
Cable TV will also be discussed.

Consumers of Cuncolim are invited to attend the meeting
and participate in the deliberations.
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[Goanet] Salted foods may increase cancer risk

2010-01-16 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Did you know alcohol and increased fat intake raises breast cancer risks?

http://www.webmd.com/breast-cancer/news/20040317/wine-fat-intake-breast-cancer

Regards, GL 

--- Con Menezes 

Salted foods may increase cancer risk: Japanese study

http://www.foodnavigator.com/Science-Nutrition/Salted-foods-may-increase-cancer-risk-Japanese-study/?c=KlYnp4hkqTAtokNjYKEqpA%3D%3Dutm_source=newsletter_dailyutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=Newsletter%2BDaily





Re: [Goanet] Citizenship issue...

2010-01-16 Thread lyrawmn


--- On Thu, 1/14/10, manuel tavares duk...@bell.ne wrote:
Commencing with our Tarvotis and early immigrants to Africa India and
other countries, Expatriate remittances have significantly contributed
to Goa's economy.

I. Nunes comments:
NRG's  remittances account (conservatively) for upwards of 6% of Goa's GDP.
Which is why RGs are encouraged to seek outside employment.
 
Mr. Noronha has referred to the out migration as a virus.
No such thing.
If one discounts wars and upheavals, people emigrate primarily for economic 
opportunities. 
The government in Goa has done little to increase job opportunities for Goans 
in Goa.
 
The politicians can only come up with junk: tourism, resorts, cruises, casinos 
and the kind. 
This is not sustainable.
 
 
  
 





Re: [Goanet] Remote Control

2010-01-16 Thread Clinton Vaz

Dear Soter,

It appears from your post reproduced below that you are learning to spew venom 
like Mr. Parrikar does on this forum. The nasty way of writing may be 
characteristic to Mr Parrikar, and however proud he may be of that, It also is 
a reflection of his crass mentality and self upbringing. It would be unoriginal 
as well as image lowering to follow his writing style.

I'd also like to ask If you could please also equate me with 'bleading heart' 
Fredrick in support for the migrant scrap dealers. The street scrap dealers no 
doubt, do business on public space, but in turn they do a lot of service to the 
state. First, they pick up waste from householders and shopkeepers at their 
doorstep at NO fee. Some even pay the stores for the things they take. They 
considerably reduce the civic authorities waste collection quantum which would 
otherwise go into open dumps around goa. Today, (and since 2006) Panaji's 
ENTIRE recycling initiative is run by about 30 'migrant scrap dealers' at St. 
inez and Campal who work for free (and supposedly pay a 10-20K monthly kickback 
to corrupt civic authorities to keep their jobs). Send them home and Panaji 
will cripple to a standstill in a fortnight.

And another thing, soter, It's not only 'migrants'. There are a few Goans 
involved too. For an example, there's Proto Rodrigues of Caranzalem. You may 
verify by calling him at 9822386627 and ask him about his job. While you are at 
it, ask him how many Goans he's employed in his workforce, and why cant he 
employ any more? You probably know the answer anyway.

The Gaddas near National Theatre were illegal squatters that did nothing for 
the city. They only set shop illegally, and tapped electricity from the 
Governmnent building adjacent to the Gaddas. They were also known for hosting a 
number of Matka agents, an banned sport of gambiling. and I know that they were 
given rehabilitation at the Municipal Market once they were removed. Why should 
one get a free space at the Muncipal market if one was operating illegally is a 
question I'ld like CCP to answer. Lastly, none of those Gaddas, (nor any gadda 
or handcart in Panaji) pays a paisa for their waste to be picked up by CCP. 
Enough said.

I compost half my waste at home, and recycle the rest. While I compost in a 
compost unit located in my verandah, I store all my recycalbles in storage bins 
in my backyard. Recycling at my home happens once every three months only 
because 'migrant scrap dealers' help me in recycling. As my village panchayat 
does not have any facility for waste management I use these self created 
soloutons to solve my problems in an environmentally friendly way. Of course I 
can't recycle everything. It takes me a month to collect a plastic bagfull of 
material that's not compostable nor recyclable, and that I take to the 
municipal authorities nearby bin. In this way we reduce more than 85% of our 
waste from our household going to an open dump in Goa. Before you reply to this 
mail, and point fingers at Fredrick or anybody else, could you please 
reciprocate and let us all know in detail how you take care of your household 
waste?

Thanks for bringing up this topic so that I could put my points across.

Clinton..

Ps: Rico, in Copenhagen, I met a guy called John Mulrow who also works with 
composting and he told me that if you have a compost bin in your verandah like 
I do, you could also piss into it as shown in his website's demo vid '3 Things 
about Compost' at http://www.compostmodernist.org/ and prove to Soter that you 
do piss in your verandah! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghBejY_A6zAfeature=player_embedded



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 See Fredericks heart bleed for migrant scrap dealers. He would have been 
 absolutely silent if they were Goans. He has nothing to say when decades 
 old gaddas of locals were removed near National theatre in Panjim.
 Everything has a place. I am sure that Frederick does not urinate in his 
 verandah and would reserve certain intimate relationships for the bedroom. 
 I think Frederick should accomodate all these scrap dealers in his 
 compound as that would indicate his generosity. Cheering the creation of 
 shit in someone else's backyard is easy. Frederick is a guy who goes 
 abroad frequently, has he seen scrap and crap being piled up around 
 monuments and public squares? Is he creating an issue for nothing?


 =Soter 
  




Re: [Goanet] Rajan Parrikar and GBA

2010-01-16 Thread floriano

Dear John,'

Your sentiments are well appreciated and welcomed. You have said it all, 
beautifully.


I myself have gone on record to say that I would want to do a 'Don Corleon' 
style 'Godfather' on our bad guys if someone was good enough to gift-rap me 
a AK-47 :-))


Instead I have channelized my anger and frustration via filing PILs (7 
successful  to my record and I am already tired) and to give Goa an 
alternate 'Sane' ( vs MAD), workable, practical system of governance since 
the year 2000 [a solid decade has passed by without a ripple of note :)], 
where-in the missing link has been added most liberally - the ingredient of 
SELF-SACRIFICE. But, as always, sustainable 'French Revolution' style 
movements take its own time to build-up and I see that such viruses are 
presently getting the right temperature to multiply ( your post for 
instance),  for it is a well known fact that for any virus to take hold and 
multiply, the right 'temperature' is the key.


I have always been of the opinion that Goa needs a political system change, 
other than the imported  'Delhi - Nagpur - Maharashtra based High commands 
system of governance  where the only criteria is: How to survive and scoop 
the Goan goodness , drain it away by keeping a few key players of Goan 
origin happy and satisfied. I have always said that Goa needs its own High 
Command solidly based in Goa which will afford a red carpet to be laid in 
the labyrinth of Delhi Command  for Goa's Chief Minister to walk on, should 
he decide to visit Delhi  rather than  have Goa's Chief Minister on beck and 
call from Delhi where all  he may manage to meet is a 'cook' here and a 
'waiter' there of the Delhi High Command and not the Prince and/or the 
Queen.


Goans have known for years what Goa needs  'a political solution', but they 
have always allowed themselves to be diverted and fragmented from this task 
through  careful engineering by master-planners who have no interest of Goa 
at heart  except for what it can give them (a holiday resort mostly). And 
the only way, as I see it,  to snatch the 'candy', as it were,  from the 
hands of these vested interests,  is for Goans to come to realize that this 
ever non-finish'able candy will not last for ever and ever and when it is 
over, these players will just vanish in thin air, thumping their bellies to 
say we had our fill while it lasted - now who cares?? And then, it will be 
too late for Goans to hold the heavy baby, for they will have been reduced 
to mere weaklings.


Therefore, all the more reason for sensible Goans (if there are any :) to 
join the PPS Brigade which must have, and will have, a fool-proof  inbuilt 
'fire wall' anti-infiltration safety system which will automatically keep 
the vested interests and infiltrators at bay and give entry to 'Goans' who 
have the self-sacrificing ingredient imbedded deeply into their very  being. 
And this brigade must move 'parallel' with all the good work that has been 
done and is being done, GBA et al notwithstanding.



Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org

PS: Fight Dirty Politics and Dirty Politicians. Join the PPS Brigade. Adorn
your 2/4-wheeler with the PPS sticker. Show solidarity with the movement
with conviction that  'We Shall Overcome'

PPS: PEOPLE for POLITICAL SANITY  Goa's Need of the Hour - we shall 
overcome -  with a  stirring handle as the motto  'One for all and all for 
One'


- Original Message - 
From: John Gomes johnericgo...@yahoo.com

To: Goanet Org goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:19 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Rajan Parrikar and GBA


Whilst I do not subscribe to RPs bombastic language and diatribes,I agree 
with Arwin Mesquita. Another person like that is Soter. We need all the help 
we can get and getting together is only a beginning.Staying together is 
crucial. I myself am so frustrated with our government,that I feel like 
doing violence and eliminating not only three famous idiots, but all of 
them! However Venita Coelho has suggested civilised and democratic means, 
and whether it will work with uncivilised and undemocratic shelfish people 
is the moot question that Rajan and Soter are battling with. Everyone has 
thei own life to live.Everyone makes mistakes.Time is running 
out.Irreversible damage is being done.Right now the politicians and vested 
interests are getting restless with the grass roots movements and agitations 
building up.Please let us all try to help each other within our limitations 
and whatever way we choose to without belitting each other. This gladdens 
the
Rulers! The AIM is the same. One for all and all for One should be our 
motto.










[Goanet] Parasailing etc

2010-01-16 Thread JoeGoaUk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTw0FUrYtIg
 
Watch in HD and let be know the difference if any
(click on HD)
 
thanks




joego...@yahoo.co.uk 

for Goa  NRI related info... 
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ 

For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa 

In Goa, Dial  1 0 8 
For Hospital, Police, Fire etc


  The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. 
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[Goanet] Corn and Rats_GM_Monsanto

2010-01-16 Thread Venantius J Pinto
GM Corn Causes Problems in Rats?
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/145212/gm_corn_causes_problems_in_rats/

Monsanto's response
http://www.monsanto.com/products/techandsafety/fortherecord_science/2010/monsanto_response_de_vendomois.asp

venantius j pinto


[Goanet] Bollywood stars to attend Goa Yuva Mahotsav at Bicholim

2010-01-16 Thread samir umarye
-- 
Samir Umarye

PANJIM, JAN 15
Entering into its 15th episode, Konkani Bhasha Mandal’s Goa Yuva Mahotsav is
expected to be a star-studded event this time when it will be held at
Bicholim on January 30 and 31.
“We have invited Bollywood star Vivek Oberoi as the chief guest for the
prize distribution function while efforts are on to confirm presence of Nana
Patekar to kick-off the event,” Dr Shekhar Salkar, chief coordinator of the
festival, told reporters.
The two-day long event, an extravaganza of youthful culture and creativity,
will be held at Chhatrapati Shivaji Maidan, Bicholim.
Bicholim MLA and chairman of reception committee Rajesh Patnekar expected
the participation of around 200 students and youths representing around 30
colleges and higher secondaries and 20 cultural organizations from all over
Goa.
The Mahotsav which began at Margao has traveled to every nook and corner of
the state. The organizers said that this time the main venue is named after
Konkani writer and famed journalist Chandrakant Keni.
Patnekar said that the main stage is named after noted tiatr artist and
sangeet natak academy award winner Padmashri M Boyer.
The other venues would be named after Fr Anton Pereira, Nilkanth Karapurkar,
Krishna Laxman Moye and Vinayak Natekar.
The Mahotsav will be spread over three venues besides a special hall for
rangoli competition, which will have capacity to accommodate 4,000 people.
The organizing committee is headed by Bicholim MLA Rajesh Patnekar, Dr
Shekhar salkar is the chief coordinator and Suraj Komarpant is the working
president of the mahotsav.
Vidhyadhar Raut is secretary, Zaki Shaikh and Rupesh Thanekar are the joint
secretaries.
KBM president Prashant Naik, secretary Nityanand Naik and treasurer Rajendra
Naik along with Chetan Acharya, Paresh Naik, Surel Tilve and Shirish Naik
are assisting the local team in the organization of the event.


Re: [Goanet] From one RG to another an open letter

2010-01-16 Thread lyrawmn



Mr. Goveia,

 
You have articulated concisely and well the rebuttal to some RGs claims of 
unwarranted meddling by concerned NRGs in matters Goa. 
I suspect theirs is a minority view culled in literary salons of the 
cognoscenti.
 
In fairness, the RGs have a point in one area. 
Some well meaning NRGs in their eagerness to help are attempting to reinvent 
the environmental arena.  RE: What are we waiting for posts?
This appears a heavy handed approach and ignores and discounts the long 
struggle by the loyal concerned citizens and environmentalists resident in Goa 
for over the past 2 decades.
 
You do recall Agonda  circa 1980es where hardy villagers, lawyers and 
environmentalists successfully halted the resort development in its track, yes? 
Golf courses in a CRZ, you ask?  Yes!
 
At present the many RG activists have been the foot soldiers at the forefront 
not least of all brave Goans villagers battling special interests in face 
of  threats, intimidation, litigation costs, time, etc 
Nandkumar  Kamat has been at his quest for over 20 years.
 
 
No one in a leadership position is addressing any of these issues as far as I 
can see anywhere in India.

You are right.

It is pointless to debate the merits of transparency of governance and the 
media in the west versus India. You are not going to change entrenched minds. 
 
 
The 2009  Survey done by International Transparency Org assigns India a CPI 
[Corruption Perception Index] rank of 84 in the 180 countries surveyed. [N. 
Zealand ranks 1 and  Somalia 180, with China 79 and US 19]. 
As a survey it is an underestimates the pervasiveness of corruption. 
 
http:/n 
/www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2009/cpi_2009_table
 
other links:

http://mahendra-agarwalonline.20m.com/PR_IndiaSleazeCorruption.htm
http://www.guardianweekly.co.uk/?page=editorialid=479catID=1
http://fightcorruption.wikidot.com/other
 
 I. Nunes





[Goanet] God and YOU

2010-01-16 Thread Albert Desouza

Albert writes:- If Xano Moidekar has any axe to grind against me he is free to 
grind and you can use any number of names even filty words to describe me but 
Please do not make Mockery of Heaven. You say there will be pigs there, etc is 
not a cup of my tea. Already our religion has not been up to mark and we 
ourselves are to be blamed. We are not united among ourselves and many of us do 
not know which is the correct part to Heaven. There are two parts created. In 
our Path which is simple we just go to church in the morning,attend novenas and 
prayers .say a number of rosaries,visit shrines like Valankani,Potta, etc etc 
but remain the same. Our fathers and mothers -aged home. Some may have a wife 
some may have divorced--- etc.The second path is the path of action. The path 
that Mary the mother of Jesus followed. The Almighty God is the source of 
POwer, love, etc. From Him all good and even the bad things have come. This God 
is a true lover . He will suck your blood with love and ready to do anything 
for you. So you turn to the least of the least and look after them. You can do 
charity any way you want, Raise them above the Ground so that they can see 
Jesus. Spend for them according to your will and according to what you can. Do 
not allow them to go bed without anything eaten. How can you allow them ? Do 
Not worry about your neighbours bad things. Just select the good things from 
bad people and just ignore the bad.One day a Jailor woke up on a christmas day 
with a vow that he would be kind to the prisoners. He thought that he would 
find out the good points within them. He found one of the prisoner was a 
sculptor who could do any design on the wood. There was another one who was a 
very good desiel Mechanical engineer .One by one he started using them in the 
prison. A day came when they all became refined.The Jailor asked the Governor 
of his state to allow them to work somewhere as they had nowere to go. At least 
five of them had served a long term, dispissed by their familys and no where to 
go. There was a positive answer. These crimals were really rehabilated. 
 
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