Re: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-10 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, John Ralls wrote: > On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:50 AM, Allin Cottrell wrote: > > > > On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Paul Davis wrote: > > > >> I do not believe that using a pre-built GTK OS X framework is > >> desirable for users or developers. Include GTK as part of your > >> app bundle. It

Re: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-10 Thread John Ralls
On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:50 AM, Allin Cottrell wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Paul Davis wrote: I do not believe that using a pre-built GTK OS X framework is desirable for users or developers. Include GTK as part of your app bundle. Its not hard to do and gives you complete control over which vers

Re: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-10 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Paul Davis wrote: > I do not believe that using a pre-built GTK OS X framework is > desirable for users or developers. Include GTK as part of your > app bundle. Its not hard to do and gives you complete control > over which version of GTK is used by your app. I think this co

Re: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-10 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Jack Skellington wrote: > Also if a native Gtk+ OS X framework were available people who are > maintaining Gtk+ apps would have the option to extend their user base > to OS X quite quickly. All it requires to use it is to build the GTK stack yourself using the ins

Re: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-10 Thread Kristian Rietveld
On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:15 AM, John Ralls wrote: In light of all of the work Kristian has done in the last few weeks, I've taken out the stuff about "not actively maintained". There's still a fair number (about 80) "FIXME: Implement" comments, so for now I think it's still accurate to say that

Re: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-10 Thread Kristian Rietveld
On Nov 10, 2009, at 12:35 AM, Jacob Juul Kolding wrote: A framework as in the Gtk.framework folder you add to the Xcode project and then build? Yes. It didn't work yet by just dragging in the Gtk.framework folder at the time. But we provided an installer and XCode project template that

Re: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-10 Thread Kristian Rietveld
On Nov 10, 2009, at 12:19 AM, Allin Cottrell wrote: Unfortunately this is not immediately clear if you google, say, "gtk osx". Ah yes, that's very true. I am really hidden in/behind my git repositories as you might understand ;) Bottom line: If there's any way to improve the web presence

Re: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-09 Thread John Ralls
On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Jacob Juul Kolding wrote: On Nov 9, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Kristian Rietveld wrote: No, it is not fully complete, but getting close. Recently, I have been working on reviewing outstanding patches, fixing up the last few kinks remaining after the transition to client

Re: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-09 Thread John Ralls
On Nov 9, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Jacob Juul Kolding wrote: Nevermind the tex thing, the actual problem is that glib fails to build because gettext is missing? Then you didn't do jhbuild bootstrap. Everyone: Please, if you're having trouble building with jhbuild, ask in the gtk-osx-us...@li

Re: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-09 Thread Jacob Juul Kolding
I prefer using make and the command line myself. Actually machine has a couple of versions of framework / dependencies and builds, so I don't know if I just got lucky. Like I said, in 52 days I will have more time to play :) > Subject: Re: Why are no developers completing/ma

Re: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-09 Thread Jacob Juul Kolding
I just got lucky. Like I said, in 52 days I will have more time to play :) > Subject: Re: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X? > From: ja...@juvul.com > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:35:44 +0100 > To: k...@gtk.org > CC: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org &

Re: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-09 Thread Jacob Juul Kolding
aid, in 52 days I will have more time to play :) > Subject: Re: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X? > From: ja...@juvul.com > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:35:44 +0100 > To: k...@gtk.org > CC: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org > > On Nov 9, 2009,

RE: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-09 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Shawn Bakhtiar wrote: > To build the latest framework: > > 1) Get the latest using jhbuild and build > 2) http://github.com/jralls/gtk-osx-framework/tree/master/framework/ App developer here again: Right now I can get a fully functional GTK+ framework (but one that relies on

RE: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-09 Thread Shawn Bakhtiar
machine has a couple of versions of framework / dependencies and builds, so I don't know if I just got lucky. Like I said, in 52 days I will have more time to play :) > Subject: Re: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS > X? > From: ja...@juvul.com >

RE: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-09 Thread Shawn Bakhtiar
> > On Nov 9, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Jack Skellington wrote: > > Hello All > > > > I'm currently in charge of the development of a cross-platform OpenGL > > app which uses GTk+ for it's interface. > > The app runs on both *nix/X.org and win32 but when I started looking > > into OS X I found that the Q

Re: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-09 Thread Jacob Juul Kolding
On Nov 9, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Kristian Rietveld wrote: On Nov 9, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Jack Skellington wrote: Hello All I'm currently in charge of the development of a cross-platform OpenGL app which uses GTk+ for it's interface. The app runs on both *nix/X.org and win32 but when I started looking

Re: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-09 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Kristian Rietveld wrote: > No, [the Quartz port of GTK+] is not fully complete, but getting > close. Recently, I have been working on reviewing outstanding > patches [and other good stuff] ... I do not get paid for this > at all. Saying that the OS X port is not being activ

Re: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-09 Thread Kristian Rietveld
On Nov 9, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Jack Skellington wrote: Hello All I'm currently in charge of the development of a cross-platform OpenGL app which uses GTk+ for it's interface. The app runs on both *nix/X.org and win32 but when I started looking into OS X I found that the Quartz OS X version of Gtk+

Re: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-09 Thread Michael Natterer
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 19:10 +0100, Jack Skellington wrote: > Hello All > > I'm currently in charge of the development of a cross-platform OpenGL > app which uses GTk+ for it's interface. > The app runs on both *nix/X.org and win32 but when I started looking > into OS X I found that the Quartz OS X

Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-09 Thread Jack Skellington
Hello All I'm currently in charge of the development of a cross-platform OpenGL app which uses GTk+ for it's interface. The app runs on both *nix/X.org and win32 but when I started looking into OS X I found that the Quartz OS X version of Gtk+ is neither complete nor being actively developed. I m