Re: [h-cost] 1880 Ball Gown

2007-07-27 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 7/27/2007 8:56:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: short women should always wear one color, or at best, different shades of the same color. ** Hm... whatever. Most fashion advice is very subjective. I can't think of a much mor

Re: [h-cost] Re: Article on Russian Viking-era find

2007-07-27 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Friday 27 July 2007, Beverly Azizi wrote: > I am excited to reproduce the apron skirt and tunic. This is really > exciting to me as one of my first loves is the Viking stuff. (Mind > you it is all play for me I am not a serious historian but I strive > for some authenticity. Anyway, with the

Re: [h-cost] straight/bias gore question

2007-07-27 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
I sewed a straight to bias skirt once in an antique satin and it did bag out, especially more so over time. Sylrog On Jul 27, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Brangwyne wrote: Same here, although occasionally I'll hand baste the buggers in first eliminating the "travel" that happens with pinning the seam an

Re: [h-cost] 1880 Ball Gown

2007-07-27 Thread Lavolta Press
I planned to flat line everything in black and line the bodice. Do you all think the skirt needs flatlining and lining? Unless it was a sheer fabric (and sometimes even then) late-1870s/early 1880s dresses were usually fully flat-lined. If you are draping trim all over the skirt, the flat li

Re: [h-cost] 1880 Ball Gown

2007-07-27 Thread Lavolta Press
A lot of photographs and portraits from this era show women wearing the fashionable silhouette, whether it flattered them or not, in our eyes. Yes--although the standard 19th-century fashion advice, in magazines and beauty books, was to wear what _was_ appropriate to the individual's figur

Re: [h-cost] straight/bias gore question

2007-07-27 Thread 00217146
Interesting! I wonder if the problem I'm thinking of was originally a result of inexperienced sewing, which I misinterpreted as fabric properties. It's the sort of thing that I did years and years ago, thought "huh, doesn't work" and changed methods. With three responses that I'm interpreting as

Re: [h-cost] straight/bias gore question

2007-07-27 Thread Brangwyne
Same here, although occasionally I'll hand baste the buggers in first eliminating the "travel" that happens with pinning the seam and then sewing with machine. Starr At 07:17 PM 7/27/2007, you wrote: same here - the straight stabilises the bias, so it doesn't stretsh in wear / hanging. do

Re: [h-cost] straight/bias gore question

2007-07-27 Thread Debloughcostumes
same here - the straight stabilises the bias, so it doesn't stretsh in wear / hanging. do it all the time in linen, and not had a problem. any puckering I sort out by fiddling with the machine tension. In a message dated 28/07/2007 00:10:04 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writ

Re: [h-cost] 1880 Ball Gown

2007-07-27 Thread Lynn Downward
Gosh! I go away for an hour for lunch and I come back and people are full of insights and help. I love this group! Thanks for the feedback on this natural curve period between bustles. I think the princess line is flattering too, and I'm sure she'll look and feel great in this dress. I should hav

Re: [h-cost] straight/bias gore question

2007-07-27 Thread Saragrace Knauf
I've always been taught to sew straight to bias. I've never had a side "baggy"I would definitely NOT hang the bias ones! Sg - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007

RE: [h-cost] 1880 Ball Gown

2007-07-27 Thread Abel, Cynthia
A lot of photographs and portraits from this era show women wearing the fashionable silhouette, whether it flattered them or not, in our eyes. But even in the 18th century, whether drawn on the imaginary ideal or a painted portrait, artists tailored their work to an ideal that few women could mee

Re: [h-cost] 1880 Ball Gown

2007-07-27 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 7/27/2007 6:03:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the minimal-bustle "natural form era" styles, which is what this is, look better on shorter women than on very tall and slender ones. Tall women can wind up looking like a pole in them, if th

Re: [h-cost] 1880 Ball Gown

2007-07-27 Thread Lavolta Press
I have that Dover book, but my books have far overflowed my bookshelves and are stacked high all over the floors. So I can't pull it out right away to ID the picture. I can barely move my in-front-of-the-computer chair for piles of books related to the (long overdue) one I'm working on now. I

Re: [h-cost] Moliere

2007-07-27 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 7/27/2007 5:19:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is in keeping with the type of decoration you see in the late 17th century. oops...I meant the 18th century ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at

Re: [h-cost] Moliere

2007-07-27 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 7/27/2007 4:21:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: unless your French is much better than mine *** That's a laugh! When we did the miniseries "The Wedding", the designer brought all these great 1950's clothes from LA for the extras. Well

Re: [h-cost] Moliere

2007-07-27 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 7/27/2007 1:27:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Enough fabric in the skirts, and cutting the panels in gores instead of squares, would make them drape properly, which is probably what you're reacting to. Looks more 1640smaybe

[h-cost] straight/bias gore question

2007-07-27 Thread 00217146
I am making a linen 4-panel, front/back/sides-gored variation on the Gothic Fitted Dress. Usually, when I do this, I cut eight gores (4 rectangles cut diagonally) and sew them in, straight-to-straight and bias-to-bias. This time, I cleverly thought "If I fold it in quarters first, and then cut, I

[h-cost] Re: Article on Russian Viking-era find

2007-07-27 Thread Beverly Azizi
I am excited to reproduce the apron skirt and tunic. This is really exciting to me as one of my first loves is the Viking stuff. (Mind you it is all play for me I am not a serious historian but I strive for some authenticity. Anyway, with the info about the colors and the decoration, and the

[h-cost] 1880 Ball Gown

2007-07-27 Thread Lynn Downward
(Sorry for the cross-post) I'm out of my design league and could really use some help from anyone who has worked in the 1880s era. I'm making a gown for my 16-year old daughter for a ball in March. After looking through all my books, she has chosen one from "Victorian and Edwardian Fashions from

Re: [h-cost] Moliere

2007-07-27 Thread MaggiRos
Amazon.com has two (from the used and new sellers) but the user reviews tell us the Region 1 version has no subtitles. Have to watch it just for the pictures, I guess, unless your French is much better than mine. No no, go ahead. I won't grab it. :-) MaggiRos --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I

Re: [h-cost] Moliere

2007-07-27 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
It would be a problem with the regions. I got mine from Amazon france. Only in french and no text, but i baught it for the eyecandy. And its a long film, more than 3 hours. The time is brilliant, starting with the cavallier style when he was a child, and see how the styles changes trough the tim

Re: [h-cost] Moliere

2007-07-27 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi, Yes this is the title. Then you can have it after all Bjarne - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Moliere In a message dated 7/27/2007 9:45:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL

Re: [h-cost] Moliere

2007-07-27 Thread MaggiRos
I don't think so. It's 1665 or so, right? Lots of petticotes, but the farthingale is out and the panniere hasn't come in. A long corset, some kind of bum roll, but no frame for the skirt. Think of Faye Dunnaway getting undressed in the Richard Lester "Three Musketeers". Yes, that's earlier but the

Re: [h-cost] Moliere

2007-07-27 Thread Cynthia Virtue
Sylvia Rognstad wrote: Wouldnt the skits have more understructure? I forget what they wore under them in this period but it seems they should be sticking out a bit more. There's an image at IMDB showing one woman in the foreground, with many women sitting in the background. You can easily see

Re: [h-cost] Moliere

2007-07-27 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
Wouldnt the skits have more understructure? I forget what they wore under them in this period but it seems they should be sticking out a bit more. Sylrog On Jul 27, 2007, at 11:04 AM, MaggiRos wrote: The skirts sure seem to be a skimping on fabric. MaggiRos --- otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: [h-cost] Moliere

2007-07-27 Thread MaggiRos
The skirts sure seem to be a skimping on fabric. MaggiRos --- otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0796335/Ss/0796335/8.jpg.html?hint=group > http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0796335/Ss/0796335/13.jpg.html?hint=group > not my area of interest but the costumes seem t

Re: [h-cost] Moliere

2007-07-27 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 7/27/2007 9:45:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seriously, what is the film's title? What year? Who's in it? A search for Teatre du Solleils gets me no results. *** Is it this one? From 1978? _http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077941/

Re: [h-cost] Moliere

2007-07-27 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 7/27/2007 9:07:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You better buy the old DVD with Teatre du Solleils version of Mollieres life. Even it is so old now, the costumes are stunning beautifull... *** I'd love to! If it can b

Re: [h-cost] Moliere

2007-07-27 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
And they need some more width in their skirts two. Very scarce fabric use in my oppinion. The lady in the front wears her off the shoulder much two deep two. Bjarne - Original Message - From: "otsisto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, Ju

Re: [h-cost] Moliere

2007-07-27 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
You better buy the old DVD with Teatre du Solleils version of Mollieres life. Even it is so old now, the costumes are stunning beautifull... Bjarne - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 3:10 AM Subject: [h-cost

Re: [h-cost] Re: boning question

2007-07-27 Thread Zuzana Kraemerova
Hi! Nice you're interested:-)) It's gonna be a wedding dress for a friend of mine - I'm also doing the man's outfit and cloaks for both of them, so all LOTR costume style:-)) Have you tried any dresses of that style? Do you have pictures? I really would be interested...:-)) You can have a loo