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At 08:26 AM 12/4/2007, you wrote:
I found this picture of Jadwiga Jagiellon on Wikipedia. Does anyone
know of any other images of this style of dress, most especially of
the sleeves? I have been looking to find this image somewhere else
online and it seems that
Kate,
It's jewelry. It would not have been connected to the hemd or chemise. Were
you thinking of a partlet and not chemise? Also, what may be throwing things
off is the gold bands on the hemd which is gold thread embroidery. There is
two camps to the banded sleeves, one is that it is a part of
I remember a story of a couple who sang at the New York Renaissance festival
back in the 70's. They said that it looked like the the people that owned
and ran the Fest. considered renaissance anything pre Beatles. :)
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Audrey Bergeron-Morin wrote :
And then there's the
They also taked about it on their tape and mentioned the top seller was a
man that collected beach waste and created picturesque sculptures of rats,
bats, and buzzards. :)
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Ah! See, they meant it was A renaissance, not THE
Renaissance. :-)
MaggiRos
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So how would a middle class or poor person deal with a pinked or slashed
hand me down?
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I think he was Italian. The sumptuary rules were for England only.
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It doesn't make sense that it would be for the rich only in that there is a
portrait of
I wish I could remember where I read it but on some extant pinked clothing
there was a glue substance that I thought sounded like our version of fray
check. Also some weaves and fabric do not fray as badly as some with wear
and tear. And considering that there are extant garments that are pinked,
A 1610 loose gown P.118 and I think it was not due to the slashing but the
wear and tear of the hem.
De
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In PoF, there is a gown that it's noted was probably remade at some
point, because of the slashing patterns. A portion of the skirt I
believe that didn't line up
:) I've been corrected, they are pinkings not slashes because they are small
cuts or they are cutouts. :)
whoopsie :)
De
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I agree on them being slashes and small cut out diamonds. I've heard such
slashings were a sign the wearer was wealthy, as they could afford to
It doesn't make sense that it would be for the rich only in that there is a
portrait of a tailor with pinking all over. But I guess one could say that
he needs to show off his work.
De
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First, the first image on my site is the one from the book everyone is
referring
On the zoom at Sotheby's they look more like puffs/slash then a stud. But
definitely not a jewel.
The first picture from Chiara's site indicates that they are slashes, small
pinkings between embroidered Xs. You find the pink and X pattern on the
sleeves under the arm where the horizontal slashes
something with rundschau in
the title:-)
http://www.intelligenzbestien.wz.cz/images/rundschau.pdf
Zuzana
otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this it?
http://tinyurl.com/2lv3rt
or this
http://tinyurl.com/2nzu53
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You are looking a approx. 3 muskateers era. Baroque Era.
http://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/cjackson/l/p-follarkin1.htm
http://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/cjackson/j/p-johnson1.htm
http://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/cjackson/j/p-johnson2.htm
http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/opacdirect/3519.html
1600 and 1605 men
I just registered.
The have
Property from Aristocratic Families including Coaches from a Royal Stable.
I'm going through some of the paintings.
De
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I am subscribed to Sotherby's Auction Catalogue Online and this week they
have sent me one called Important British
Bjarne,
What season was this dress worn?
http://tidenstoej.natmus.dk/periode1/dragt.asp?ID=57
Is it for a special occasion?
De
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On Oct 22, 2007, at 12:50 PM, Leif og Bjarne Drews wrote:
For those of you who are interrested clothes from 1700 and onwards are
on wiev
First time I heard of them.
How authentic is she wanting? Most of the costume side is a basic that can
be upgrade. The silver satin looks more like something that would have been
worn under a beaded shift and not with just a sash. It also apears to have
darts which I don't recall seeing with 1920s
By the way thank you for introducing the site. I love how you can zoom any
of the garments.
De
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On Oct 22, 2007, at 12:50 PM, Leif og Bjarne Drews wrote:
For those of you who are interrested clothes from 1700 and onwards are
on wiev on the danish costume museum.
So it is not for say, winter but to go from town to town in. Was this a
popular or common style of travel clothes?
De
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At 02:41 AM 10/23/2007, you wrote:
Bjarne,
What season was this dress worn?
http://tidenstoej.natmus.dk/periode1/dragt.asp?ID=57
Is it for a special
So was the hood for covering an unmade hair do?
De
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Hi,
This outfit was used to wear from bed in the morning until you had finnished
your toilette.
It was timeconsuming to get your hair set and also to make your morning
toilette, so this outfit was used.
It was common
I guess this is probably where the quilted robe evolved from. I was hoping
it was a little more of a public dress.
De
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According to the site, this is a morning toilette ensemble. For recieving
visitors while getting dressed and having hair done.
Tania
Is this it?
http://tinyurl.com/2lv3rt
or this
http://tinyurl.com/2nzu53
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i!
I've just received my copy of this book, so just a few information:
It has some few patterns on renaissance doublets, cape, and hosen. Then it
has a few good-looking patterns for 18th century
I have used Past patterns and have learned that you definitly need a mock
up. Some of their patterns have problems and not always in the same area.
Clear instruction has been the main problem.
De
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Civil war evening gown comes to mind with this.
Perhaps
Simplicity 4510?
http://tinyurl.com/28p6cc
S9761
S5724
Or S4479?
B4954
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I finally found pictures of the set if it helps at all.
http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b133/SorayaNazli/?action=viewcurrent=GREE
NTEA1.jpg
http://pintura.aut.org/BU04?Autnum=11507Empnum=0Inicio=91
Scroll down to portrait of a woman. look at all the slash work and white
gloves.
http://pintura.aut.org/BU04?Autnum=11507Empnum=0Inicio=61
Scroll down to Salomé con la cabeza de San Juan Bautista #12 I can't tell if
it is lace or pearlwork
Maybe a Persian coat?
Can you remove the quilting without leaving marks or permanent stitch holes?
With satin, you are looking more at Renaissance fudging then Medieval,
especially shiny satin. Your also looking at winter attire with this satin
as it does not breath. Plus you should not make
Though this is allegorical and Cranach tends to have fanciful stuff, it
doesn't explain the lacy stuff under the left arm. The hemd is painted to
be very sheer and there looks to be something very sheer under the forearm
but the angle of the white speckle could be pearlwork on a sheer material or
/database/image.asp?id=23232
http://tinyurl.com/22skb2
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I haven't been able to get into this site all morning.
I think I know which picture you're talking about,
but I can't tell! Could someone send me a .jpg of it
directly?
MaggiRos
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discusssion picture
http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=23232
It might be lace. This sort of looks like a possibility
http://www.costumes.org/HISTORY/renaissance/lace/7.gif
though it is not German.
It is also 1598 so yes it's a far reach. :)
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The hemd
Again, not my statement.
De
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Not one of those huge hoop skirts. Impossible to
dance a waltz in that.
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http://pintura.aut.org/BU04?Autnum=11507Empnum=0Inicio=106
Click on the little picture and a new screen comes up, click on that picture
and another screen which will allow you to enlarge a bit more then the
wikipedia and a bit clearer. From the left of the skirt it appears to be
appliqué with
know that you have decided to do a later period but you need to put the two
styles together to see if they meld or look down right odd.
De
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De:
From: otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [h-cost] wedding in historical costumes
Thanks for all those links
The Victorian era begins with her reign in 1937. To my understanding crine
or horse hair tape was uses in the sleeves and petticoats during the 1830s
but around 1840s or fifties is when the hoops skirts start appearing. You
Victorian/Civil War gowns w/hoops are 1861. So if 1830 is the choosen era,
1830 info.
http://www.connerprairie.org/historyonline/clothing.html
AFAIK, they had layers of petticoats and not hoops.
http://www.fashion-era.com/romantic_era.htm#The%20Underwear
Men/paperdoll 1830
http://www.fancyephemera.com/historicalfashion.html#1830sbeau
1830 wedding gowns
For $2 a yd. 100% linen medium weight. White with black appliqued linen
flowers. Took the flowers off and now I have a solid white linen material. I
plan on attaching the flowers together to make a long vest, may line it with
another color or fancy crochet/needle work bettween the flowers.
For $1
Mine said that they found out that soy has a chemical that interfers with
iodine absorbtion.
A friend of mine was diagnosed with hypothyroid, she cut the foods out that
inhibited iodine absorbtion and exercised and six months later her thyroid
test came back negative and lost 13 lbs. but in her
Sofi gown
http://tinyurl.com/27vqcj
The Northern Italian painting that's similar. It has the puff and slash.
Still isn't 1525.
http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/hb/hb_32.100.81.jpg
I have been toying with the idea of making the dress in the painting but not
so ornate for masquerades.
De
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That being said - the science is clear - ALL fats are unhealthy.
De:I believe this is incorrect.
Know anyone with a heart bypass yet?
De: Yes, but it was oddly for a genetic abnormality and he is a Vegan.
The science is not perfectly clear and never will be. We
Really? I weigh 260 lbs. and I am 5' 7 almost 8. My problem is that I
don't remember to eat or I put off eating. I slowed my metabolism down. I
have been told by my doctor that they are finding out that people whose
eating patterns like mine have a greater chance of diabeties. My meals when
I have
Baumgartner
On Sep 23, 2007, at 3:32 PM, otsisto wrote:
Looks like long haired fake fur almost similar to the skunk ridge.
Their
notions section doesn't say fringe but it doesn't say long hair
fake fur
like it does for the skunk. You might get a clue from the
instructions and
you might want
What I'd like to know is if most of these costumes are made for and worn by
her and her daughter and thus proof of ownership, it therefore should NOT be
shared property unless HE has been wearing the items himself as well. His
lawyer can not make her sell the costumes. If she sells the costumes
So any costume that is the daughter's stays with the daughter and should not
be up for sale unless the daughter wishes to sell it. Right?
De
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BTW, I don't see that a father has any claim on his children's (or
stepchildren's, if that's the case) personal posessions in a
Looks like long haired fake fur almost similar to the skunk ridge. Their
notions section doesn't say fringe but it doesn't say long hair fake fur
like it does for the skunk. You might get a clue from the instructions and
you might want to notify McCall about they oversite with the monkey face
http://www.trousseau.net/trousseau2.asp?P=2I=543
De
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No, I hadn't noticed. I came across this while looking for a shirt. I am
using the Simplicity Pirate pattern #4923
http://tinyurl.com/359l8g
to make a costume, maybe for Halloween and for sure, for 2008 Archon and
wished to adapt it to make it look more authentic then costumy. Thinking of
putting
From my understanding, Livery collars were replaced by gold chains for
everyday wear which would sometimes have a pendant of some sort hanging from
it, like a miniature portrait or if say the person is of the Order of the
fleece, they would have a gold fleece/sheep pendant in the time of
http://www.randyasplund.com/browse/medieval/chausse1.html
Scroll down to the first of the last two pictures. These are not as loose as
the previous. Similar to a previously presented print.
http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/library/Semiramis.gif
De
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Only the
February. Du Berry Hours
http://www.christusrex.org/www2/berry/DB-f2v.jpg
http://www.christusrex.org/www2/berry/DB-f2v-d3l.jpg
But the man next to the woman not wearing any underwear isn't wearing any
either, so does that support men not wearing brais?
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Greetings!
Sometimes museums and site do not have the same title of a portrait..so
Lucrecia
http://tinyurl.com/22ltz6
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Angelo_Bronzino_045.jpg
Laura
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Angelo_Bronzino_042.jpg
Young woman
I was looking for something else and found this 1756 portrait (Stepanida
Yakovleva, Russia.
http://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/cjackson/v/p-vishnya1.htm
De
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http://www.taunton.com/threads/pages/th_adindex.asp
Her computer seems to repeat the url and make it as one. In the future you
can click on them and then remove the repeat, then click and you should get
to the site.
De
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These links dont work for me, i think something
From this site
http://www.marileecody.com/eliz1-images.html
Elizabeth's gown is embroidered with English wildflowers, thus allowing the
queen to pose in the guise of Astraea, the virginal heroine of classical
literature. Her cloak is decorated with eyes and ears, implying that she
sees and hears
Try this
http://tinyurl.com/yrhxho
For those who find long URLs go here
http://tinyurl.com/
to shorten it.
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Cut and pasted the thing twice, came back bad request.
Laurie (not a bloke but interested in bras nonetheless)
centenary)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 13:23:06
Wow. this is the first time a tinyurl didn't work.
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Try this
http://tinyurl.com/yrhxho
For those who find long URLs go here
http://tinyurl.com/
to shorten it.
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Uh..no. Hope Floats is one of my favorite movies. The main character's
husband has an affair with Birdie's (main character) best friend and Birdie
is brought on a Springer type show and told by her best friend about the
affair. So Birdie and her daughter go back to her home town to live with her
There are (and I don't know why) 3 super Walmarts in our little ol' College
town. The oldest is keeping thier's for a while the other ones are keeping
the bare minimum.
De
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The little one in Dade City, Florida is keeping theirs. Good thing
too, it's 50 miles to the
Will they be enameled or is she going the embroidery route?
De
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Thank you. A friend of mine is going to make the tulips for me and I
wanted to give her the best image possible.
kate
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A weak sub would be to make embroidered appliques, then attaching a metal
ring towards the stem end and thread cover the ring. Then applique the tulip
to the camicia.
De
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It looks to me like the black ribbons are laced through loops on the stem
end of each tulip, so
A wee bit better
http://tinyurl.com/2n6r4o
I remember once upon a time that there was a site that zoomed in on the
portrait but I can't seem to find it.
De
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Greetings.
I'm looking for detail images of this portrait by Bartolomeo Veneto:
Small note for the future. Coleman makes battery operated tent ceiling fans.
:)
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Definitely too much rain. When not raining, too much heat and
humidity! But I had a great time all the same.
Melanie Schuessler
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Some extant garments for ideas.
http://www.vintagetextile.com/1920s_to_1930s.htm
If you click on the pictures, it will take you to a site with more details
of the dress/item.
more extants
http://www.antiquedress.com/item6011.htm
http://www.antiquedress.com/item4484.htm
this would have a slip
Not necessarily there were those of well to do families that kept up with
the fashions of the time. For the Titanic era you are looking at the 1910s,
specifically 1912. There is at least seven years (if not more)of a fashion
change, so I do not believe that she would be wearing something from the
http://www.vintagetextile.com/gallery_1920s.htm
http://tinyurl.com/2pzowy
http://www.onlinecostumeball.com/Delineator/Nov_1920/Women/EveningWear.htm
1912 styles to see the difference
http://www.antiquedress.com/item4335.htm
http://www.antiquedress.com/item2698.htm
Last minute vacationing before school starts.
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Haven't seen any H-costume posts for a few days. Did everyone go on
vacation???
[I hope so. Have fun y'all!]
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I am not good at drafting patterns and I asm have a fog. I want to achieve
this bodice.
http://www.homolaicus.com/arte/pittrici/madre.jpg
Any recommendations?
would using the Margo Anderson pattern work?
I plan on using Simplicity 7215
http://tinyurl.com/2vgyrp
for the camicia but will change
http://www.allbookstores.com/author/Daniela_Turudich.html
Amazon no longer carries it.
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A friend of mine is looking for the following book. Any ideas? She is
in the U.K. so Library searches in the U.K. are preferable, but she
would actually like to buy a copy.
http://www.fetchbook.info/fwd_description/search_9781930064089.html
Alleged to have come out in 2003 others say 2004.
But you may be correct for when I scrolled down the with the first posted
url it said can't find the book with any of their members.
The above url gives the impression that they
I have not seen the sketch but does it say anywhere that there are loops at
all on this specific dress? Why do you feel that all apron dresses at the
time had loops? Could there not have been an exception somewhere?
De
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To do that, though, you'd need a second set of
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0796335/Ss/0796335/8.jpg.html?hint=group
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0796335/Ss/0796335/13.jpg.html?hint=group
not my area of interest but the costumes seem to be close to the era
depicted. You may be right about the same style, though the first picture
the woman
http://www.vintagetextile.com/new_page_562.htm
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Your welcome. I was searching for ideas to embellish a pirate outfit and
came across it.
De
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Thanks Otsisto,
Bjarne
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I guess I will have to settle on the Linen/cotton blends and silk tends to
insulate and the camicias are for summer.
De
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Hi De,
This thin linnen is not available today. I can tell that for sure.
How about using a thin silk in stead?
Bjarne
I have come to find that JA and HL, most times have their sales at about the
time the new book is about to come out so that they can make room for the
new patterns. It's quite annoying. I was hoping to get Simplicity 3677 for a
Con in two weeks but my local JA had not got it yet and if they had
Hmmm..I remember that at the end of the past discuss someone produced a
website so perhaps this woman is not the one I was thinking of. Please hold
off on the email address. I guess what I am going to have to do is do a
major search through the archives and see if I can find the retailer. If
that
Would butterick 4484 work better?
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At 16:54 21/07/2007, you wrote:
Curious about the back of the corset - Is that inverted V at the
small of the back correct?
http://www.simplicity.com/designFrontBack.cfm?design=3635
Sg
Those underwear patterns look like they have
Thank you. The linens are still to thick. I am looking for linen that is
about as sheer as the veil on this Madonna
http://cgfa.sunsite.dk/lippi/p-lippi12.htm
or
http://cgfa.sunsite.dk/lippi/p-lippi1.htm
I know that one can get silk that sheer and I know there is cotton that
sheer but I am told
The blue dress color comes close to the blue dress found on a Dutch(?)
painting of a woman. Her husband's portrait with him in a smoking jacket(?)
was the same shade of blue. I posted both to this site. I don't have the url
saved.
De
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Dear Cynthia,
That was a nice
I believe your suppier is who I am thinking of. May I have their name and
are they on line?
De
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I have also a supplier of very fine batiste linnen. My one is 100 % linnen.
But its very expensive, no bargains here, you have to pay for it!
I have 3 meters waiting for a
but there was further discussion and a name of the sheer linen (it was not
called batiste)was said and a site that sold it for roughly $25 a yard was
found.
De
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The discussion I remember began when Julian Wilson (Hi, Julian!) mentioned that
he had bought some batiste
Once upon a time there was a discussion on batiste weight linen and a source
was posted. I thought I saved the URL but I can't find it in my link files.
Could someone with the link please post it and post (if you remember) the
name of that type of linen as I know it isn't batiste.
Thank you,
De
It is slightly on topic for the costumes, specifically ms. Umbridge's pink
Chanel knockoff. :)
What is scary is that at JoAnne's on there clearance shelf in my town, they
have that pink blended thick yarn material. But I'm to tall to go to the
masquerade at NASCI-FI as Umbridge. :)
But I agree
You should look for German Baroque artists.
For a start;
Johan Liss, early 1600s
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Johann_Liss
The Bildindex seems to be having problems so wait a day and try them.
De
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Greetings: I'm new to the list and really seeking resources
In all the pictures I have seen the cuff of the leine was not gathered. I
vaguely remember a few looked like the sleeve tapered to the wrist with an
approx. width opening that a splayed out hand could get through it.
A rough idea of one style of a leine
http://tinyurl.com/2ph8lh
It's been a long
Most of the fashions look like a exaggerated early 1900s. One or two from
the 60s and one or two from the 1700s. Hairstyle can be 1700s but you find
it could be compared to the late eighteen hundreds. The raccoon eyes are
reminiscent of the 1930s silent movies which would meld with the outfits
Maybe the dark under the eyes is a French thing.
http://www.fashionwindows.com/fashion_designers/christian_lacroix/2007f/clf0
721.asp
or another trademark of Lacroix.
Though for the HC spring line they do not appear to have them
Was looking for a good example for the Lacroix comparison and came across
this which I think someone was asking about.
http://www.sensibility.com/vintageimages/1900s/images/corsets.jpg
http://www.sensibility.com/vintageimages/1900s/images/1916corsets.jpg
De
Nice.
Someone may have already suggested it but how about some small lace along
the edge as an option? metallic?
Or combine the split and gold lace?
De
whose brain this week seems to be in first gear and slips into neutral
periodically.
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Thanks, but I have patterns for
How about making the tunic out of lace and add a few pearls, pink, green and
clear beads to spots.
De
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Ooh, deeply glamourous! However, I've got a month
exactly till the event, so a heavy beading project
isn't gonna happen. I think I'm thinking of something
summery with
AlbertCat wasn't kinding about the lace and embroidery prices.
http://tinyurl.com/2l7w2a
http://tinyurl.com/26g2xg
http://www.finefabrics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGYCategory_Code=
BD
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No I do not have it but it was recommended to me when I was looking into
goldwork for a gown. Other things have come up so that I have not gotten
around to ordering the book.
De
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On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, otsisto wrote:
Will this help?
http://www.sallymilner.com.au
Bohemia
http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1610_2.shtml
spain
http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1606_1.shtml
english
http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/161x_6.shtml
baveria
http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1613_1.shtml
france
http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/161x_4.shtml
denmark
more pictures
http://www.tudor-portraits.com/Various_8.htm
perhaps the Margo Anderson pattern might help as the hanging sleeve is a
carry over from the late 1500s.
De
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http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/Sistersuzi/1600dress_9.jpg
Thank you - there a couple there I
Maggie,
I have this pattern and have material set aside for it.
It is an early 1920s style, evening dress or can be a summer tea dress. The
girdle top is at waist level.
What I have found so far is that it would that you could make it in a darker
color. I am not sure of what you mean by watery but
Will this help?
http://www.sallymilner.com.au/framedetail.php?Book_ID=249
http://www.vam.ac.uk/vastatic/microsites/1220_gothic/craftsperson.php
http://medieval.webcon.net.au/technique_goldwork.html
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Hi all! I've searched the archives but haven't found what I'm looking
The try to or endeaver is sounding like what it is. Because I am ever so
rusty with the German and only tidbits of Norwegian, I did not trust my
translation of the word.
The phrase:
Vom Ochsen seind drei und achtzigerlei Speise und Trachten zu machen
Thank you all for the help! :)
De
Bjarne, do you know of any German, Danish or Dutch food called Trachten?
I have heard this word to mean to try or try to
but several who are trying to translate a 1500s Germanic recipe book thinks
that is is a food of some sort.
Thank you,
De
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In reference to rumpolt.
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In Dutch it means to try now (according to babelfish anyway), so the
context is going to be very important.
If it's Rumpolt (which I use quite often in experimenting with
vegetable dishes) it's a noun anyway, not a verb.
for starters
A bit early about 10th c.
http://www.regia.org/
http://www.regia.org/listings.htm
11th c.
http://www.gelfling.dds.nl/anglo-saxon.html
http://www.moondragon.org/costumes/11cdress.html
http://members.lycos.co.uk/Wulfingas/11thdress.htm
book
I have plans to make this dress and from what I can tell is that it is
embroidery. It is not velvet though a short haired velvet wouldn't be bad
for a rendition of the gown.
http://www.marileecody.com/isabel.jpg
http://ladysarafina.home.att.net/isabeldevalois.JPG
bigger picture
1879 home robe
http://www.antiquedress.com/item4260.htm
De
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I think this is a 1100s manuscript
http://www.tempora-nostra.de/tempora-nostra/manesse.php?id=203
click on the pictures for a closer look.
De
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can anyone direct me to good sources for information on late 11th century
early 12th century german clothing? i'm working on
Thank you. I have TVAL site earmarked so I never used it on Vigdis' site. I
have notified the webminister of the site of the problem.
Here is my earmark for TVAL
http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/index.shtml
De
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