RE: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-09-02 Thread monica spence
PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sharon at Collierfam.com Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 12:35 AM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: RE: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet What do you all think of Historic Costume for the Stage, by Lucy Barton? Sharon C. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-09-02 Thread Kate Pinner
next semester. Kate - Original Message - From: Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 1:24 AM Subject: Re: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet I think that there are a lot of very good experts

RE: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-09-02 Thread Dawn Luckham
What do you all think of Historic Costume for the Stage, by Lucy Barton? Sharon C. I think the answer to your question lies within what you hope to accomplish with the textbook. One of the things I found disappointing with Survey of Historic Costume: A History of Western Dress by Tortora and

Re: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-09-02 Thread Kathy Hoover
OK--this was my first thought: Well, why don't we *ALL* do it--working together! A Costume Wkipedia! Those who are experts in one time period would write what they know about best. Just like 'Wiki,' anyone else could contribute or edit. I don't know if the Wiki owners run into contibutors

RE: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-09-01 Thread Sharon at Collierfam.com
By then, it will probably be on disc, so much more portable. :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of monica spence Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:53 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

RE: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-09-01 Thread Sharon at Collierfam.com
What do you all think of Historic Costume for the Stage, by Lucy Barton? Sharon C. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Luckham Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:57 AM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: RE: What would *you* use

Re: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-09-01 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Saturday 02 September 2006 12:34 am, Sharon at Collierfam.com wrote: What do you all think of Historic Costume for the Stage, by Lucy Barton? It happens to have been one of the first costume books I read. My recollection is that it's not bad. It uses redrawings almost exclusively, but

Re: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-09-01 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Saturday 02 September 2006 12:56 am, Sylvia Rognstad wrote: Since nobody seems to think there is one really good textbook, maybe I'll consider writing one myself! Of course they are all too general to people like us who specialize in historical costumes, but sometime you really need just a

Re: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-09-01 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
I think that there are a lot of very good experts in historical costuming on this list who may very rightly feel that it is almost impossible to cover all periods in one book and I agree to an extent. It's just that I keep hearing that over and over after I've explained that I'm teaching a

RE: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-09-01 Thread Sharon at Collierfam.com
, September 01, 2006 10:25 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet I think that there are a lot of very good experts in historical costuming on this list who may very rightly feel that it is almost impossible to cover all periods in one book and I agree

Re: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-09-01 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
looking for. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylvia Rognstad Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:25 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet I think that there are a lot of very good experts

Re: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-08-31 Thread Kelly Grant
I am agreeing with Dawn on these two books, not sure about the third, I don't own it. The Survey of Historic Costume comes up to modern times, I think the late 1970's/80's and has quite a bit on modern fashion that should be helpful when tying the course into the rest of your fashion program.

Re: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-08-31 Thread Dawn
Susan B. Farmer wrote: Quoting Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In light of the negative responses to this question, what book would you use? The current favorites, based on a quick web survey of posted class syllabi, are: The History of Costume: From Ancient Mesopotamia through

Re: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-08-31 Thread Debloughcostumes
In a message dated 8/30/06 7:02:01 PM GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In light of the negative responses to this question, what book would you use? history of costume by james laver (actually has a couple of names, depending on the version, as it's been re-issued a couple of

RE: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-08-31 Thread monica spence
Costume Subject: Re: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet If you don't think much of Racinet, what about Kohler? ALthough his book was written in the twenties, he appears to have a lot of primary sources. I find his diagrammed patterns of clothing interesting, although they are conjecture

Re: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-08-31 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Wednesday 30 August 2006 10:51 pm, Dawn wrote: The list seems to have eaten my first response: The current favorites, based on a quick web survey of posted class syllabi, are: The History of Costume: From Ancient Mesopotamia through the Twentieth Century. Payne, B., Winakor, G., and

RE: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-08-31 Thread monica spence
The problem with costume books is that they are all too general. If you want to see the most artwork-- use Davenport. However, the book is in BW, the pics are small and the text is gossipy. If you are looking for specific periods , a how to : The Janet Arnold books, Norah Waugh, The Tudor Tailor,

RE: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-08-31 Thread Dawn Luckham
I just finished a college level program that used Survey of Historic Costume: A History of Western Dress by Phyllis G. Tortora, Keith Eubank. It's current and it brushes past history and costume, combining social and political influences. As someone who was already very interested in

Re: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-08-31 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
I am aware of the generality problem and will definitely use more sources when I teach a costume history class next semester, but the class I am currently teaching just requires a broad overview of history, something that will only require a couple of weeks at the most.I was really trying

Re: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-08-31 Thread Melanie Schuessler
I used the James Laver book last semester to teach a general Western European/American clothing history class. It was cheap, which is always good for the students, but it's very much a brief history and has about five pages on the entire middle ages. It was extremely lacking in details, and

Re: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-08-30 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
That is correct. On Aug 30, 2006, at 10:44 AM, Susan B. Farmer wrote: Quoting KLH [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It really would depend on the time period I was teaching, and the geographical area. There's so many choices... The assumption that *I* was making is that it was a survey of Western

Re: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-08-30 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
If you don't think much of Racinet, what about Kohler? ALthough his book was written in the twenties, he appears to have a lot of primary sources. I find his diagrammed patterns of clothing interesting, although they are conjecture. They seem well thought out. Sylrog On Aug 30, 2006, at

Re: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

2006-08-30 Thread Dawn
The list seems to have eaten my first response: The current favorites, based on a quick web survey of posted class syllabi, are: The History of Costume: From Ancient Mesopotamia through the Twentieth Century. Payne, B., Winakor, G., and Farrell-Beck, J. New York: HarperCollins, 1992.