Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait
You are looking at possibly an ecru silk chiffon lined with white linen or cotton. The shoulder region is not a different material from the sleeve, it is the two layers only flat. The edges of the ruffles seem to have either bia tape, ribbon or possibly embroidered edge. http://www.lostcoasthistpatterns.com/chdrbyrohofa.html http://www.jennylafleur.com/diary/georgian07/chemise07.jpg http://www.jennylafleur.com/diary/georgian07/chemise05.jpg http://www.jennylafleur.com/diary/georgian07/chemise03.jpg This one is in cotton http://www3.fitnyc.edu/museum/Arbitersofstyle/chemise.dresses.htm Someone made it http://wearing-history.com/images/chemisedress.jpg De -Original Message- Hello, My mad scramble to get myself ready for Costume College left me with a new goal, but I'm very uncertain about fabric. I want to make this gown: http://www.ladyreading.net/marieantoinette/big/marie14a.jpg I know that there are other copies of this image on the web, but this was the first one I found just now. What fabric would you use for this? It is certainly semi-sheer, more so than voile. Silk chiffon would be too soft, silk organza possibly too stiff? I just can't decide. Laurie T. Phoenix ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait
Yes, that is the infamous chemise gown and would have been made of lightweight linen or cotton--supposed Marie Antoinette adopted the style worn by the Creoles in the hot and steamy Caribbean.? It is possible that, during the time, an even more sheer linen or cotton was used for the ruffles, although I had always thought the sleeve ruffle was a continuation of the sleeve made by drawing it up.? There is a pattern for an extant English chemise dress in Cut of Women's Clothes. ? Ann Wass -Original Message- From: otsisto otsi...@socket.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, Aug 13, 2009 4:40 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait You are looking at possibly an ecru silk chiffon lined with white linen or cotton. The shoulder region is not a different material from the sleeve, it is the two layers only flat. The edges of the ruffles seem to have either bia tape, ribbon or possibly embroidered edge. http://www.lostcoasthistpatterns.com/chdrbyrohofa.html http://www.jennylafleur.com/diary/georgian07/chemise07.jpg http://www.jennylafleur.com/diary/georgian07/chemise05.jpg http://www.jennylafleur.com/diary/georgian07/chemise03.jpg This one is in cotton http://www3.fitnyc.edu/museum/Arbitersofstyle/chemise.dresses.htm Someone made it http://wearing-history.com/images/chemisedress.jpg De -Original Message- Hello, My mad scramble to get myself ready for Costume College left me with a new goal, but I'm very uncertain about fabric. I want to make this gown: http://www.ladyreading.net/marieantoinette/big/marie14a.jpg I know that there are other copies of this image on the web, but this was the first one I found just now. What fabric would you use for this? It is certainly semi-sheer, more so than voile. Silk chiffon would be too soft, silk organza possibly too stiff? I just can't decide. Laurie T. Phoenix ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait
De, Thank you. You pretty much summed up what I thought, though I still can't help think that the silk chiffons that I've used in the past were to mushy to look like that. I had been looking at the edge treatment last night and wondering if it would be enough to make a mushy chiffon behave as Le Brun portrayed it. Silly to be so hung up on wanting to do it 'right', but I've loved it since the first time I saw it, regardless of its history. Laurie T. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of otsisto Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:41 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait You are looking at possibly an ecru silk chiffon lined with white linen or cotton. The shoulder region is not a different material from the sleeve, it is the two layers only flat. The edges of the ruffles seem to have either bia tape, ribbon or possibly embroidered edge. http://www.lostcoasthistpatterns.com/chdrbyrohofa.html http://www.jennylafleur.com/diary/georgian07/chemise07.jpg http://www.jennylafleur.com/diary/georgian07/chemise05.jpg http://www.jennylafleur.com/diary/georgian07/chemise03.jpg This one is in cotton http://www3.fitnyc.edu/museum/Arbitersofstyle/chemise.dresses.htm Someone made it http://wearing-history.com/images/chemisedress.jpg De -Original Message- Hello, My mad scramble to get myself ready for Costume College left me with a new goal, but I'm very uncertain about fabric. I want to make this gown: http://www.ladyreading.net/marieantoinette/big/marie14a.jpg I know that there are other copies of this image on the web, but this was the first one I found just now. What fabric would you use for this? It is certainly semi-sheer, more so than voile. Silk chiffon would be too soft, silk organza possibly too stiff? I just can't decide. Laurie T. Phoenix ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait
Ann, Thanks for the information and perspective. I hadn't considered separately-cut ruffles. I do think that you're right that the sleeve ruffle is a continuation, but if I'm trying to make modern fabrics behave properly, cutting ruffles separately, in different fabrics, could work. Laurie T. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:29 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait Yes, that is the infamous chemise gown and would have been made of lightweight linen or cotton--supposed Marie Antoinette adopted the style worn by the Creoles in the hot and steamy Caribbean.? It is possible that, during the time, an even more sheer linen or cotton was used for the ruffles, although I had always thought the sleeve ruffle was a continuation of the sleeve made by drawing it up.? There is a pattern for an extant English chemise dress in Cut of Women's Clothes. ? Ann Wass -Original Message- From: otsisto otsi...@socket.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, Aug 13, 2009 4:40 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait You are looking at possibly an ecru silk chiffon lined with white linen or cotton. The shoulder region is not a different material from the sleeve, it is the two layers only flat. The edges of the ruffles seem to have either bia tape, ribbon or possibly embroidered edge. http://www.lostcoasthistpatterns.com/chdrbyrohofa.html http://www.jennylafleur.com/diary/georgian07/chemise07.jpg http://www.jennylafleur.com/diary/georgian07/chemise05.jpg http://www.jennylafleur.com/diary/georgian07/chemise03.jpg This one is in cotton http://www3.fitnyc.edu/museum/Arbitersofstyle/chemise.dresses.htm Someone made it http://wearing-history.com/images/chemisedress.jpg De -Original Message- Hello, My mad scramble to get myself ready for Costume College left me with a new goal, but I'm very uncertain about fabric. I want to make this gown: http://www.ladyreading.net/marieantoinette/big/marie14a.jpg I know that there are other copies of this image on the web, but this was the first one I found just now. What fabric would you use for this? It is certainly semi-sheer, more so than voile. Silk chiffon would be too soft, silk organza possibly too stiff? I just can't decide. Laurie T. Phoenix ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait
I wouldn't use silk chiffon. It has no body at all and will lay limp rather than in the soft ruffles shown, and silk organza is (as you say) too stiff. You'd be better off with a nice sheer cotton--back it with something more opaque for the body and sleeves. That way you'll get the airy feeling shown in the portrait. Check out some of the specialty shops that carry heirloom sewing fabrics for things like christening gowns if you can't find something suitable at your local general fabric store. Melanie Schuessler On Aug 13, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Laurie Taylor wrote: De, Thank you. You pretty much summed up what I thought, though I still can't help think that the silk chiffons that I've used in the past were to mushy to look like that. I had been looking at the edge treatment last night and wondering if it would be enough to make a mushy chiffon behave as Le Brun portrayed it. Silly to be so hung up on wanting to do it 'right', but I've loved it since the first time I saw it, regardless of its history. Laurie T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] comparison shopping - Tudor Shoes
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:29 AM, h-costume-requ...@indra.com wrote: Message: 5 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:45:54 -0700 From: Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] comparison shopping - Tudor Shoes To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Message-ID: ec5b3396f57a4ee4a245e1cfe6207...@bobfamilyroom Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Have you looked at Soles Thru Time? A couple of re-enactor friends have these and love them. I have looked at these, and they look great to my untrained eye, but am concerned because they use reference images from Norris and Peacock which I know are not the most reliable sources. -- Message: 9 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:26:55 GMT From: penhal...@juno.com penhal...@juno.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] comparison shopping - Tudor Shoes To: h-cost...@indra.com Message-ID: 20090812.222655.1559...@webmail12.dca.untd.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have no personal experience with either but while surfing for Kentwell information tonight (hey, a girl can dream!) I noted that Pilgrim Shoes is one of the official vendors for their Tudor/Elizabethan reenactors and actually sells from a booth while the reenactment is open. That Kentwell use them is a very strong endorsement in my book - unless I'm wrong Kentwell has very exacting standards, right? Re: Melanie's rec. of Sarah Juniper and others rec.s of Plantagenet - both appear both sturdy and beautiful/accurate, but a bit above what I can spend right now! Right now I'm leaning towards Armlann - good prices for handmade and I could trace my feet around arch supports for added support. Also they appear to do a leather sole, which might help me more closely replicate period fencing footwork. Keep the experiences coming, but thanks so far to all with their recommendations. Karen Seamstrix. Allison T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait
On Aug 13, 2009, at 9:29 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: Yes, that is the infamous chemise gown and would have been made of lightweight linen or cotton--supposed Marie Antoinette adopted the style worn by the Creoles in the hot and steamy Caribbean. It is possible that, during the time, an even more sheer linen or cotton was used for the ruffles, although I had always thought the sleeve ruffle was a continuation of the sleeve made by drawing it up. There is a pattern for an extant English chemise dress in Cut of Women's Clothes. There are extant items that do have an applied ruffle of finer fabric. For example, there are shifts with the sleeve gathered into a band and then a ruffle added to the band. In the images, the double ruffle at the neck would be applied. A really narrow cuff band would make it easier to control the way the sleeve ruffle falls. Just using a drawstring, the fullness might migrate toward the elbow, affecting the ruffle. Even though the look is styled after something simple, I can imagine that Marie Antionette's dressmakers would do a more precise job of it. The hemmed edges look like hemmed edges to me. Bias tape was not in use at the time, even binding an uneven edge they were using a flat woven tape. For suitable fabrics, I do remember seeing fine shirt-quality linen, but it's pretty expensive. It might be easier (and cheaper) to find a good shirt cotton. Unfortunately, when looking for sheers, handkerchief linen is sheer but coarse. Have you searched for cotton lawn? Some of the home decorating catalogs stores carry sheer cotton curtains. -Carol ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait
Very sheer, lightweight cotton. It drapes like the picture. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Laurie Taylor Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 6:34 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait Hello, My mad scramble to get myself ready for Costume College left me with a new goal, but I'm very uncertain about fabric. I want to make this gown: http://www.ladyreading.net/marieantoinette/big/marie14a.jpg I know that there are other copies of this image on the web, but this was the first one I found just now. What fabric would you use for this? It is certainly semi-sheer, more so than voile. Silk chiffon would be too soft, silk organza possibly too stiff? I just can't decide. Laurie T. Phoenix ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] comparison shopping - Tudor Shoes
Our group portrays Elizabeth's court around 1575. Our costumer is VERY particular and she approves these. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of A. Thurman Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:54 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] comparison shopping - Tudor Shoes On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:29 AM, h-costume-requ...@indra.com wrote: Message: 5 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:45:54 -0700 From: Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] comparison shopping - Tudor Shoes To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Message-ID: ec5b3396f57a4ee4a245e1cfe6207...@bobfamilyroom Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Have you looked at Soles Thru Time? A couple of re-enactor friends have these and love them. I have looked at these, and they look great to my untrained eye, but am concerned because they use reference images from Norris and Peacock which I know are not the most reliable sources. -- Message: 9 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:26:55 GMT From: penhal...@juno.com penhal...@juno.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] comparison shopping - Tudor Shoes To: h-cost...@indra.com Message-ID: 20090812.222655.1559...@webmail12.dca.untd.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have no personal experience with either but while surfing for Kentwell information tonight (hey, a girl can dream!) I noted that Pilgrim Shoes is one of the official vendors for their Tudor/Elizabethan reenactors and actually sells from a booth while the reenactment is open. That Kentwell use them is a very strong endorsement in my book - unless I'm wrong Kentwell has very exacting standards, right? Re: Melanie's rec. of Sarah Juniper and others rec.s of Plantagenet - both appear both sturdy and beautiful/accurate, but a bit above what I can spend right now! Right now I'm leaning towards Armlann - good prices for handmade and I could trace my feet around arch supports for added support. Also they appear to do a leather sole, which might help me more closely replicate period fencing footwork. Keep the experiences coming, but thanks so far to all with their recommendations. Karen Seamstrix. Allison T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] comparison shopping - Tudor Shoes
On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Sharon Collier wrote: Our group portrays Elizabeth's court around 1575. Our costumer is VERY particular and she approves these. [Soles Thru Time] I guess I'm more particular than your costumer! I don't care for these. First, they use the worst possible sources (Norris and Peacock vie for the bottom of my list). For example, this sweet ankle strap shoe: http://www.solesthrutime.com/Images/Slippers/ Greenandyellowwithanklestrap.jpg Now, I'm not a shoe expert, but I have serious doubts that anyone was wearing a buckled ankle-strap slipper like this in the middle ages. I would, however, love to see evidence of it if anyone has some! Both Norris and Peacock drew some version of it, which makes me wonder where they got it, though I'm cynical enough to think (based on my experience with these sources) that Norris made it up and Peacock borrowed and improved it. Next, their interpretation of these sources looks modern and costumey to me. Take for example these: http://www.solesthrutime.com/Images/Slippers/TeardropSlashes.jpg They have a strange side-lacing that I've never seen in a 16th- century shoe, and instead of a straight slash, they have teardrop- shaped openings. These are probably the best ones: http://www.solesthrutime.com/Images/Slippers/Unfinishedgreenslippers.jpg though the one on the left has strange puffed leather in the slashes and the other has the pickadils way too far apart. For the money they're charging, I'd rather go with something that looks a little more accurate. Try the plain shoe at Revival: http://revival.us/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=310 It's not as fancy, but it's a much better shape and costs $100 less, too. Melanie Schuessler ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Shirone gown
When I first saw photos of the gown, I was puzzled since it didn't look like anything that came before or after it. Once I saw it in the museum, I was convinced that it's exhibited on a (really bad, lumpy) form that's too big for it. I made a small mockup of it based on the photo, closed it up CF, and it looked just like a regular 16/17th century gown. Those zany Victorians! Kathy Norvell -Original Message- From: Judy Mitchell judymi...@theoldforest.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wed, Aug 12, 2009 4:20 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Shirone gown Cin wrote: Thanks for all your comments on the Shinrone gown, everyone. It's certainly more than I knew before disappointing that there's not much else to go on. If there's a paper or even a mention in CSA or Dress, I'd like to have a heads up about it. Other than that, sounds like everyone's sharing the same 2-3 bits of info. *sigh* Still, it's all appreciated, --cin well, mostly - except for the one comment that it's being displayed on a mannekin that's too large, and I've heard from others also kinda lumpy and distorted (but not 'pregnant' large or lumpy), has no one else that's seen it noticed this? I should think an improper display would change it's appearance and lead to all sorts of ideas. -Judy Mitchell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait
I know that there is a very nice near sheer material out there that is a cotton linen blend, Jo Ann's used to carry it. Somewhere on line I had seen the sheer linen but is was $36 per. aprox. 1yd x 26 and it would have to be shipped from Europe to the states. Out of price, out of range so I didn't save the site. :( Walmart, when they had their $1 table used to have the indian cotton that was on the verge of being sheer but you sneezed on it wrong and you go a tear. By the way, it isn't silly. Just make sure it doesn't become obsessive and make you mental. :) As the one say goes Perfection can be a tapeworm, your never satisfied De -Original Message- (snip) Silly to be so hung up on wanting to do it 'right', but I've loved it since the first time I saw it, regardless of its history. Laurie T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait
A cotton/linen blend sounds nice, and might have a bit more of the crispness that is evident in the chemise dress. I'm actually contemplating the cotton/silk blend from http://www.renaissancefabrics.net/cgi-bin/showAll.cgi?id=286, as I think that the silk would also give the crispness that makes that ruffle stand rather than drooping. Much more affordable than the sheer linen, which I cannot imaging JoAnn's having ever carried. I did find a sheer linen here http://www.villageworkroom.com/html/linen_sheers.html, but would want to buy yardage rather than finished curtain panels. Well, I guess I'd better just start collecting swatches until I find something that I can live with. Thanks everybody! -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of otsisto Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 2:50 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait I know that there is a very nice near sheer material out there that is a cotton linen blend, Jo Ann's used to carry it. Somewhere on line I had seen the sheer linen but is was $36 per. aprox. 1yd x 26 and it would have to be shipped from Europe to the states. Out of price, out of range so I didn't save the site. :( Walmart, when they had their $1 table used to have the indian cotton that was on the verge of being sheer but you sneezed on it wrong and you go a tear. By the way, it isn't silly. Just make sure it doesn't become obsessive and make you mental. :) As the one say goes Perfection can be a tapeworm, your never satisfied De -Original Message- (snip) Silly to be so hung up on wanting to do it 'right', but I've loved it since the first time I saw it, regardless of its history. Laurie T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait
Many moons ago I sprung for the Dharma trading collection of silk swatches- very informative! Good luck, Betsy -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Laurie Taylor Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:15 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait A cotton/linen blend sounds nice, and might have a bit more of the crispness that is evident in the chemise dress. I'm actually contemplating the cotton/silk blend from http://www.renaissancefabrics.net/cgi-bin/showAll.cgi?id=286, as I think that the silk would also give the crispness that makes that ruffle stand rather than drooping. Much more affordable than the sheer linen, which I cannot imaging JoAnn's having ever carried. I did find a sheer linen here http://www.villageworkroom.com/html/linen_sheers.html, but would want to buy yardage rather than finished curtain panels. Well, I guess I'd better just start collecting swatches until I find something that I can live with. Thanks everybody! -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of otsisto Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 2:50 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait I know that there is a very nice near sheer material out there that is a cotton linen blend, Jo Ann's used to carry it. Somewhere on line I had seen the sheer linen but is was $36 per. aprox. 1yd x 26 and it would have to be shipped from Europe to the states. Out of price, out of range so I didn't save the site. :( Walmart, when they had their $1 table used to have the indian cotton that was on the verge of being sheer but you sneezed on it wrong and you go a tear. By the way, it isn't silly. Just make sure it doesn't become obsessive and make you mental. :) As the one say goes Perfection can be a tapeworm, your never satisfied De -Original Message- (snip) Silly to be so hung up on wanting to do it 'right', but I've loved it since the first time I saw it, regardless of its history. Laurie T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Intro and thanks
Greetings to the List! Thanks to Cin for her original query on my behalf about the Shinrone Gown. I have loved reading all your comments. It was just what I needed to enable me to take a better look at Kass's conclusions about the gown. Until further experience teaches me different, I am tempted to trust her assertions. She at least has had the privilege of examining the garment in question. By way of introduction, I am not new to h-costume, but have not been onlist for many years. Something about my life having blown up in my face and the resultant years of not much actual costuming. Beside the point for now. So then. I've been sewing for lots of years, and almost from the beginning I was attempting to make costumes. A gracious fast forward beyond the newby state goes here; I finally settled into the 19th century, which seemed to me like home. My first attempt at serious costuming was for an 1835 day dress. With no patterns available to me, I researched and then devised my own pattern based on a sloper. Were it not for the plastic lace trim, it might have been a good effort. But aren't we all hypercritical of our own first efforts! Since then, I have constructed my own corsets, tatted and crocheted my own lace, taxidermied duck wings for a hat, made my own hatpins, knit my own socks, and all sorts of other related games. I call myself a woman of many evil habits (all too true). I also have several antique printing presses, and more fonts of lead than of pixels. Costumes don't hurt as much when they fall on your toes. With not much in the way of reenactment or museum costuming where I live now, I have decided to go early Irish. I liked the look of the Shinrone Gown, and have never been one to reject a challenge. It certainliy will be. So, thank you one and all for your valuable opinions about the task ahead of me! == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
