Re: [h-cost] Non destructive testing for wool/synthetic
If you know somebody who is allergic to wool - and they are willing - they could hold it and see if it triggers a reaction. Otherwise, microscope. You can buy pretty good microscopes these days, including some that plug into a computer via USB so you can capture images. Wool is scaly like hair, synthetic fibres are smooth. Rebecca Message: 1 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:46:35 +1000 From: Elizabeth Jones <elizabethrjones2...@gmail.com> Hi everyone, This is not directly historical but I knew this list would be my best chance of an answer. My uncle sent my 2 month old son a gift of a hand knitted cardigan which he bought from a charity stall. without a label I have no way to know if they have used wool or acrylic yarn. I know I can test using bleach or a burn test but I don't want to damage the garment is there a non destructive test I can do on a finished garment? Thanks Elizabeth ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today?
Done: One quilt top pieced and needs to be sandwiched and quilted for youngest sister's new baby (due in January) Cutting: one quilt top for niece for Christmas Planning: one quilt for middle sister's new baby (also due in January!) Also on the want/need-to-do list: more linen shirts, possibly with blackworked collar and cuffs; blackworked coif Rebecca Schmitt aka Agnyss Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pitti Palace Costume Collection
I was there two years ago and had the same reaction. Rebecca Schmitt aka Agnyss Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of cheryl...@aol.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 11:55 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Pitti Palace Costume Collection I visited the costume exhibit at the Pitti Palace in early June. It was interesting, but underwhelming. Perhaps I was jaded having recently visited the Victoria and Albert Museum in London and the Fashion Museum in Bath. The method of presentation was interesting at the Pitti Palace, juxtaposing fashion styles throughout history in the same display case to show influences. For example, a 20th Century example of an Empire waist from the 60's might be displayed with a garment from around 1913 as well as one from the Napoleonic Era. Even so, the collection is smallish. Cheryl Odom Santa Fe, New Mexico -Original Message- From: Charlene C charlene...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:01 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] Museum reference Pitti Palace has a costume section, but doesn't appear to have any special exhibits at the moment (or at least none that are on their website): http://www.museumsinflorence.com/musei/costume_gallery.html http://www.sbas.fi.it/english/musei/palazzopitti/ --Charlene On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Pierre Sandy Pettinger costu...@radiks.net wrote: I have this vague recent memory of reading about a historical clothing exhibit at a museum in Florence, Italy that recently opened or will open soon. IIRC, it was roughly Renaissance era clothing. I think it might have been mentioned in Threads, but I can't locate my most current issue to check. Our nephew is going to be studying in Florence for about 6 weeks, and I wanted to pass along a request to go and take pics (if allowed) or buy the exhibit book (if there is one). Does anyone have any ideas of what I'm trying to remember? I need this info in the next couple of days, unfortunately. Thanks in advance, Sandy International Costumers' Guild Archivist http://www.costume.org/**gallery2/main.phphttp://www.costume.org/gall ery2/main.php Those Who Fail to Learn History Are Doomed to Repeat It; Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly - Why They Are Simply Doomed. Achemdro'hm The Illusion of Historical Fact -- C. Y. 4971 Andromeda __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.c om/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6582 - Release Date: 08/16/13 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] RE; Where to buy lucet?
Thank you all! I finally remembered where I bought mine (William Booth, Draper) http://www.wmboothdraper.com/ I was looking for the non-handled type, and really liked the one I got from them a few years ago at Military History Fest. Thanks again! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agnyss Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] where to buy lucet?
Where do people purchase their lucets (preferably online)? I'd like to buy a few, but am coming up stumped on where I've seen them for sale! Thanks :) Rebecca Schmitt aka Agnyss Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: librarian / research help requested
Which OSU? Ohio, Oregon or Oklahoma? I live not too far from Ohio State and could possibly get a copy from a friend on campus. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- - Original Message From: Charlene Charette charlene...@gmail.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Tue, September 4, 2012 4:12:42 PM Subject: [h-cost] OT: librarian / research help requested Sorry for the intrusion, but I know there are librarians on the list. I guess I could make the argument that how to do research is on-topic. :-) I'm looking for a 1979 thesis from OSU. It's not available via UMI. My local library (Fort Bend County, TX) can't get the microfiche via ILL. It's not available in Google Books. Other than paying the university to make me a copy, is there any other way to get one (paid or free)? I have access to quite a few databases via the Houston Public Library, if that helps ( http://www.houstonlibrary.org/alphabeticaldatabaselisting ). Thanks, --Charlene -- THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT IS TRUE. THE ABOVE STATEMENT IS FALSE. -- George Carlin; Napalm Silly Putty, 2001 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today?
I saw Ansel this weekend - he's looking great! I can't wait to see what he'll be wearing this season :) Rebecca Schmitt aka Agnyss Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of REBECCA BURCH Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 10:53 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- Ansel Jr is currently wearing the mock up of the new doublet I will be making for Frobisher this year. Ansel has been on a diet and lost many inches since the last Frobie suit I made him, so the old pattern won't fit any more. I am going to take the opportunity of our visit next week to fit him in person. I'm also going to bring the old suit home and hopefully remake it. Tropical weight wool is hard to find anymore. Slightly off topic - my husband and I will be in Chicago next week. We will have Tuesday and Wednesday available to sight see. Anybody have any must see things to suggest? We will be in intensive rehearsals for a concert at the Baha'i House of Worship in Wilmette the rest of the week. If anybody is interested, there will be two free concerts on Sunday, May 27 at 9:30a and 12:30p. -Original Message- From: Cin cinbar...@gmail.com To: H-costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Fri, May 18, 2012 5:26 pm Subject: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? It's that time of year: spring parties, summer balls, summer theater season, LARPs, historic recreation events, costume conventions fandom. You might even be planning a sojourn to a balmy tropical locale or a historic site. Whatever the reason, h-costumers are probably making something. So, what's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com PS. It's ok to run into the sewing room, toss something marvelous on the dummy and *then* tell us about it. It's also ok to tell what's in your design sketchbook, on the worktable, at the sewing machine or in the embroidery hoop. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2169 / Virus Database: 2425/5008 - Release Date: 05/18/12 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today?
I am currently working on a lightweight wool kirtle in a dirty light yellow (almost tending to cream) with grey fabric strips for trim. I just need to pin the skirt to the bodice and finish all the eyelets for lacing. After that, an English fitted gown in maroon wool! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agnyss Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Cin Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 4:26 PM To: H-costume Subject: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? It's that time of year: spring parties, summer balls, summer theater season, LARPs, historic recreation events, costume conventions fandom. You might even be planning a sojourn to a balmy tropical locale or a historic site. Whatever the reason, h-costumers are probably making something. So, what's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com PS. It's ok to run into the sewing room, toss something marvelous on the dummy and *then* tell us about it. It's also ok to tell what's in your design sketchbook, on the worktable, at the sewing machine or in the embroidery hoop. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2169 / Virus Database: 2425/5007 - Release Date: 05/18/12 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today?
Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- Ansel Jr is currently wearing the mock up of the new doublet I will be making for Frobisher this year. Ansel has been on a diet and lost many inches since the last Frobie suit I made him, so the old pattern won't fit any more. I am going to take the opportunity of our visit next week to fit him in person. I'm also going to bring the old suit home and hopefully remake it. Tropical weight wool is hard to find anymore. Slightly off topic - my husband and I will be in Chicago next week. We will have Tuesday and Wednesday available to sight see. Anybody have any must see things to suggest? We will be in intensive rehearsals for a concert at the Baha'i House of Worship in Wilmette the rest of the week. If anybody is interested, there will be two free concerts on Sunday, May 27 at 9:30a and 12:30p. -Original Message- From: Cin cinbar...@gmail.com To: H-costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Fri, May 18, 2012 5:26 pm Subject: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? It's that time of year: spring parties, summer balls, summer theater season, LARPs, historic recreation events, costume conventions fandom. You might even be planning a sojourn to a balmy tropical locale or a historic site. Whatever the reason, h-costumers are probably making something. So, what's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com PS. It's ok to run into the sewing room, toss something marvelous on the dummy and *then* tell us about it. It's also ok to tell what's in your design sketchbook, on the worktable, at the sewing machine or in the embroidery hoop. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Reminder: Costumers/Sewers Bazaar, Concord CA
Concord Where?? Mass??? New Hampshire???California ??? Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- --- On Tue, 5/1/12, Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com wrote: From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com Subject: [h-cost] Reminder: Costumers/Sewers Bazaar, Concord CA To: gbacgcostum...@yahoogroups.com, Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com, Historic Needlework h-needlew...@ansteorra.org, cgwcostum...@yahoogroups.com, silicon...@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 3:17 PM Mark your calendars! Please join us in a fundraiser for Butterfield 8 Theatre Company. Sunday May 6th is the Costumers/Sewers Bazaar! Fabric, Notions, Costumes, Hats, Shoes and more! We have committed ourselves to cleaning out our stashes. What does this mean for you? Great deals! Vintage wear, hand crafted masks, patterns, trim . . . the list is endless! 11 - 4 at Butterfield 8/Cue Productions 1835 Colfax Street, Concord (Willow Pass Colfax) Right next door to East Bay Music Cost: $5 at the door - all door proceeds go to Butterfield 8. For more info contact Liz at costumersstu...@gmail.com PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REPOST THIS EVERYWHERE! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today?
If you have any Amish or Mennonite communities nearby you are in luck. I get 10 pound sacks of canning (non-iodized) salt from the local Mennonite bulk store. This is also where I get pounds of cloves, alspice and stick cinnamon for the holiday pommanders that I make every Christmas. Much cheaper than all those little bottles from the grocery. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- --- On Wed, 10/5/11, Mary + Doug Piero Carey mary.d...@pierocarey.info wrote: From: Mary + Doug Piero Carey mary.d...@pierocarey.info Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? To: h-cost...@indra.com Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 9:43 AM chuckle Well, if its an archaeological dig that you're wanting... hmmm...on top... my green resist dye dashiki whose fraying seam allowances need work new black pants for shortening old black tans striped pants for waist elastic deep red shirt with loads of braid from a friend's trip to Greece to be disasembled cut down 2 sizes - without disturbing the braid! a VERY odd black leatherette cropped jacket which Dear Hubby spotted in a second hand shop INSISTED I must buy if it fit, that's part of some costume, I know it, and you'll never find anything like it when you need it despite my policy of NO NEW PROJECTS! Tanjd@mmit! and his policy of No conventions, I want to do other vacations for a while!. So, why do I need a costume piece I have NO glimmer of an inspiration for? To go to the bottom of an at least 15 outfit list, for destinations that we won't be going to for at least 5 years? sigh and finally, Dear Hubby's pirate costume shirt from last Halloween, whose cuff buttons never got done when my buttonhole feature revolted. (Praise the holy name of the saint who invented safety pins!) Do the dozen knitted scarves in the basket in the laundry room count? They are the almost completed summer stash reduction project. How about the basket full of clothes awaiting their dyebath? I gotta find a grocery store with NONiodized salt for the dyebath. Pounds and Pounds of it.! And I have cleared at least 1 square meter of sewing room floor this last week!!! Back to my mending! Mary Piero Carey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Spices--probably OT
What I wouldn't give to have an Indian market around here! I keep a list of the things I can't get at the Mennonite store and every six months or so when someone has to go into Columbus (90 min away) we stock up on whaever Asian and Middle Eastern supplies we need. Right now hubby is jonesing for hummus, but I'm out of tahini. It will be a while, (poor Baby) as nobody has a current reason to make the trip. Ah well, there are compensations to living out in the country. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- --- On Wed, 10/5/11, annbw...@aol.com annbw...@aol.com wrote: From: annbw...@aol.com annbw...@aol.com Subject: [h-cost] Spices--probably OT To: h-cost...@indra.com Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 10:21 PM I get pounds of cloves, alspice and stick cinnamon for the oliday pommanders You can also get inexpensive bulk spices at Indian stores--we buy our cloves for pomanders this way. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: REBECCA BURCH ctrvlyf...@sbcglobal.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:30 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? If you have any Amish or Mennonite communities nearby you are in luck. I get 10 ound sacks of canning (non-iodized) salt from the local Mennonite bulk store. his is also where I get pounds of cloves, alspice and stick cinnamon for the oliday pommanders that I make every Christmas. Much cheaper than all those ittle bottles from the grocery. Rebecca Burch enter Valley Farm uncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and he brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- -- On Wed, 10/5/11, Mary + Doug Piero Carey mary.d...@pierocarey.info wrote: From: Mary + Doug Piero Carey mary.d...@pierocarey.info Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? To: h-cost...@indra.com Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 9:43 AM chuckle Well, if its an archaeological dig that you're wanting... hmmm...on top... my green resist dye dashiki whose fraying seam allowances need work new black pants for shortening old black tans striped pants for waist elastic deep red shirt with loads of braid from a friend's trip to Greece to be disasembled cut down 2 sizes - without disturbing the braid! a VERY odd black leatherette cropped jacket which Dear Hubby spotted in a second hand shop INSISTED I must buy if it fit, that's part of some costume, I know it, and you'll never find anything like it when you need it despite my policy of NO NEW PROJECTS! Tanjd@mmit! and his policy of No conventions, I want to do other vacations for a while!. So, why do I need a costume piece I have NO glimmer of an inspiration for? To go to the bottom of an at least 15 outfit list, for destinations that we won't be going to for at least 5 years? sigh and finally, Dear Hubby's pirate costume shirt from last Halloween, whose cuff buttons never got done when my buttonhole feature revolted. (Praise the holy name of the saint who invented safety pins!) Do the dozen knitted scarves in the basket in the laundry room count? They are the almost completed summer stash reduction project. How about the basket full of clothes awaiting their dyebath? I gotta find a grocery store with NONiodized salt for the dyebath. Pounds and Pounds of it.! And I have cleared at least 1 square meter of sewing room floor this last week!!! Back to my mending! Mary Piero Carey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
I joined in 2006, when I was looking for information and assistance making the first Frobie suit for my son to wear at Bristol. Up to that point he had been a yeoman and his garb was provided. 2006 was when he became Capt. Frobisher. I'm not sure, but I think it was recommended to Ansel by someone at Faire. I have learned a lot since then, but boy did I lean on you guys that first year! Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- --- On Mon, 8/8/11, penn...@costumegallery.com penn...@costumegallery.com wrote: From: penn...@costumegallery.com penn...@costumegallery.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days? To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Date: Monday, August 8, 2011, 1:08 AM So here are the questions...how did you find the h-costume email list? And what year did you join? It will be really interesting how the newbies have found it. I found it as one of two costume email lists in 1996 on AOL. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/107498415961579 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
snip I joined sometime last year. The only way I found out about this list, is from the search result regarding the Gothic Fitted Gown. snip Much the same timeframe, and reasons for joining - this list comes up when you're looking for information about Gotic fitted dresses, and so I signed up since it seemed to be an interesting group. I will admit though, I was having second thoughts before I signed up; if you read the introduction to the list here ( http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ), then it makes a point about the SCA being a cause of angst (which is one of the groups I play with). Why on earth would I want to sign up to a list where, by the sounds of it, if I dare mention that I play with a particular organisation, I'd be told off? Thankfully, everyone here seems lovely. But first impressions count, and my first impression of this list, before I'd even signed up, was not that it was friendly. Rebecca ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
snip It IS very offputting, for a non-SCA member, to join a list for costume or some other historic interest, and then have to deal with a constant We are the m'Lord and M'Lady, and everyone else is mundane attitude. snip Too true! For a while I was running a mailing list that would attract the occasional SCAdian, and they would blithely assume that everyone else was in the SCA too. It made me grind my teeth, let me tell you. But the point I was trying to make, was if the list is concerned about recruiting/retaining new blood, and where everyone has wandered off to, is it really worth having a 'warning' on the sign-up page that has apparently outlived it's usefulness? A one-line This list is not exclusive to members of [insert organisations here], please do not assume that everyone is thinking about the same time period and place, to prevent any confusion is probably nicer than an entire paragraph singling out one group. :) ~Rebecca ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] fun photos of historic costume
http://www.npr.org/blogs/pictureshow/2011/07/07/137651983/photo-history-the- fashions-of-women-of-color?sc=fbcc=fp Rebecca Schmitt aka Agnyss Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] help in finding a website
Long ago I remember a website where one could test trim placements on Elizabethan bodice/gown/doublet. Or something like that. However, I'm not finding it in any of my links. Does anyone else remember this, know where it went, or know if it is simply no longer in existence? Thanks! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agnyss Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help in finding a website
A-ha! I thought I remembered it from Semptress long ago! Thanks much! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agnyss Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Guenievre de Monmarche Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:26 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] help in finding a website It used to be @ Sempstress.org; it doesn't appear to still be there BUT there's a copy of it on wayback.org http://web.archive.org/web/20090419091243/http://www.sempstress.org/tools/di aladress.shtml Jennifer On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Rebecca lotsofteap...@charter.net wrote: Long ago I remember a website where one could test trim placements on Elizabethan bodice/gown/doublet. Or something like that. However, I'm not finding it in any of my links. Does anyone else remember this, know where it went, or know if it is simply no longer in existence? Thanks! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agnyss Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3699 - Release Date: 06/12/11 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] ping? no posts in 3+ days?
Same for me - so I guess everyone went underground :) Rebecca Schmitt aka Agnyss Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Dunham Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 3:22 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] ping? no posts in 3+ days? this: From: Kimiko Small kim...@kimiko1.com Subject:Re: [h-cost] Hoop storage (was (no subject)) Date: March 16, 2011 1:28:14 PM PDT is the most recent post I've received. Do I have a problem, or have things just gone REAL quiet? thanks, chimene ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3518 - Release Date: 03/20/11 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question about fabric for gown
thanks so much! This helps greatly. To the fabric store tonight! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agnyss Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of albert...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 9:14 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] question about fabric for gown This period is very structured. It is not known for flowing clingy fabrics. Heavy fabrics have body, wools and velvets and grograin. Light fabrics are crisp, like paper taffeta and organdy. Laces are bold and heavy and passamentry is popular ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1202 / Virus Database: 1435/3402 - Release Date: 01/25/11 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] question about fabric for gown
I am working on an 1892 ball gown using Truly Victorian patterns. I was hoping for some fabric suggestions when I received the patterns, but none were there. This is a brand-new era for me. Can anyone give me a rough idea of types and weights of fabric that would be appropriate? I imagine silk would be correct, but what kind of silk? lightweight dupioni or heavier satin, or something else entirely? And what would be good modern, cost-effective substitutes? Thanks all very much! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agnyss Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] question on corset patterns
I am planning on making a bodice and dress from Truly Victorian's line (TV490 Ball Gown Bodice TV298 Umbrella Skirt, both from 1892). But, of course before that, I need a corset! I went to GBACG Pattern Review, and found nothing on TV's corset, but lots of great reviews on Laughing Moon's Dore corset. My usual era is Elizabethan, so if I wear a corset, it is of a very different construction. I would consider myself an intermediate sewer. Question: Do you prefer TV or LM corset, especially for a first-time Victorian sewer? Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Semi Off Topic
I know that many of you travel to SCA and other re-enactment events and thought you might be interested in the pavilion we are selling on E-Bay. About 6 years ago we bought a Panther Primitive, 16 x 16, Regent style tent for our Scout Troop. We have found that it really doesn't meet the Troop needs and would like to sell it so we can afford something more useful. It is in good condition, being very lightly used. If interested, check E-Bay item #180574087652 Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT RE: Semi Off Topic
Lots of combined factors, for one thing we find it is better to have them buddy up in two man tents instead of putting them all together in one tent. Our troop has a fair percentage of kids with special needs and too many together can lead to problems. They have a tendency to pick on each other. It is also difficult for the kids to put up without a couple of adults. We had most of the older, stronger boys age out, so we are a smaller troop and don't need as much space. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- --- On Fri, 10/15/10, otsisto otsi...@socket.net wrote: From: otsisto otsi...@socket.net Subject: [h-cost] OT RE: Semi Off Topic To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 12:32 AM Just curious, how is it not meeting the troops needs? De -Original Message- I know that many of you travel to SCA and other re-enactment events and thought you might be interested in the pavilion we are selling on E-Bay. About 6 years ago we bought a Panther Primitive, 16 x 16, Regent style tent for our Scout Troop. We have found that it really doesn't meet the Troop needs and would like to sell it so we can afford something more useful. It is in good condition, being very lightly used. If interested, check E-Bay item #180574087652 Rebecca Burch ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Vintage wedding dress
Hi All: My great-aunt recently unearthed an old wedding dress from 1935. It is apparently (I haven't seen it) in good condition. My question is, does such a dress have any value? and if so, where would be best to enquire about selling it? I live in Australia. Thanks for any help, Rebecca ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] suggestions/help to recreate the Luthers
It looks like the frazzled frau website is images only - no articles or dress diaries that I can find. Are there any other resources online that would at least give me the different layers/pieces to the von Bora dress? Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Walpole Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 5:42 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] suggestions/help to recreate the Luthers On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Rebecca Schmitt lotsofteap...@charter.net wrote: snip I have the Tudor Tailor, and am hoping I can use/modify patterns in there to create these outfits. I would love ideas or suggestions on how to do so. Here's what I am thinking so far... Martin Luther: is always shown in a gown. I am thinking of making the jerkin with a high front and sleeves. Question: is the length correct (approx knee length), or should I make it longer (mid-calf to ankle)? And where can I find a pattern for the hat he is wearing? The Tudor Tailor actually has patterns for a loose gown/robe, they are essentially unisex in basic construction but accessories and trimming styles can make them more or less masculine/feminine. Katherina Von Bora: Especially in the second link above, there seems to be a lot going on. snip For research on 16th century German women's garb the Frazzled Frau website may be useful http://frazzledfrau.glittersweet.com/ if you want a pattern the Mary of Hungary gown is a good starting place. Alternatively if you want a commercial pattern I've heard positive reviews of the Reconstructing History 'Cranach Gown' pattern http://reconstructinghistory.com/rh501-saxon-cranach-gown.php? s=c=22d=190e=33q=4p=57w=21 Hope that helps, Elizabeth -- Elizabeth Walpole http://magpiecostumer.wordpress.com/ http://magpiecostumer.110mb.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3092 - Release Date: 08/25/10 13:34:00 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] finding bolo tips
Try Crazy Crow Trading Post, they have 2' for $3.75/pr and 2 1/4 for $3.95/pr, silver only. www.crazycrow.com I love them for the customer service and bead selection. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] need source for child's over-the-knee socks
My 4-year-old son accompanies us at the Bristol Faire, and this year I need to find him plain, non-cable-knit, solid color socks which will go up over his knees. Does anyone have a source for such a thing? Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Spanish infanta Isabella Clara in walker was (nosubject)
This is incredible! Thank you all so much! My baby will not be to walker stage yet, but some of the walkers shown, without wheels and with a little seat/sling will give me someplace safe to put her during the day when I don't want her rolling off :) Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Franchesca Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:09 AM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Spanish infanta Isabella Clara in walker was (nosubject) Perhaps this site may help? http://www.oldandinteresting.com/baby-walkers-history.aspx Franchesca -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of yo...@shaw.ca Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 3:21 AM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] (no subject) Re:exersaucer I have a picture in my computer that I dont know where off the web I got it of a spanish infanta I labeled it isabella clara and I am not sure if the younger child is considered to be her sister katerina or brother who I think is philip. the child is in what apears to be a walker. As soon as I am not sleep deprived and fried from a grueling 18 hour day tv pilot shoot I will track it down or at least post this one online so someone esle can Yolanda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] looking for a picture
Somewhere in the past I remember seeing a drawing/picture from the 16th century which showed in the background a period example of an exersaucer for an infant. Does anyone know what I am talking about, or what the picture might be? My foggy memory has it as some sort of sketch/woodcut style, but that could be very off. I now have a 4 month old, and having that picture would be helpful in trying to recreate such a monster for her :) Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] looking for a picture
Not the one in my head, but cool nonetheless! (and we thought we came up with all of this cool stuff for our kids in *this* century - ha!) Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Guenievre de Monmarche Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:23 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] looking for a picture It's 15th century, not 16th, but there's a baby walker type object in the hours of Catherine of Cleves http://www.themorgan.org/collections/works/cleves/manuscript.a sp?page=69 Not sure that's the one you were looking for, but... Jennifer / Guenièvre On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Rebecca Schmitt lotsofteap...@charter.netwrote: Somewhere in the past I remember seeing a drawing/picture from the 16th century which showed in the background a period example of an exersaucer for an infant. Does anyone know what I am talking about, or what the picture might be? My foggy memory has it as some sort of sketch/woodcut style, but that could be very off. I now have a 4 month old, and having that picture would be helpful in trying to recreate such a monster for her :) Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Regalia photos
Okay, lets try this again. Here is the link (I think!) that will get you to the pictures of the OA regalia I finally finished for Weston. It took me about a year. Mostly delayed due to running out of beads and having to find a new source. The design is a modified Potwatamee motif. It took over 3 pounds of glass E beads. And yes, he really is that tall. Just turned 17 and already 6'5. http://picasaweb.google.com/107756634331716253992 Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Pictures
I finally finished the beadwork regalia I mentioned last time somebody asked what was on your dressform. Since a couple people expressed an interest in seeing pictures I sent a link to a Picasa Web album, but I haven't seen it come through. Did anybody get it? Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] CC28 programming
Will there be a schedule of classes posted prior to the Con? I ask because I can't make the whole weekend (need to plan babysitting), and want to plan my time wisely, rather than play program roulette and possibly miss something I REALLY want to see, only to be there at a time where there are no classes of interest to me (thus wasting precious babysitting time). Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Suzanne Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:22 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] CC28 I'll be there. (I don't have an 'H' -- what sort of font is it?) I'm struggling with some annoying weight gain, so I won't be wearing anything special. Ethnic one day, historic another, probably doing a generic '60s thing (not formal) for the Friday social. Mostly I'll be there to catch some classes and admire everyone else's costumes. :-) Suzanne On Apr 16, 2010, at 1:00 PM, h-costume-requ...@indra.com wrote: Anyone else from the list going to be at CC28 in Milwaukee next month? Do we want to put H's on our badges or stage a meet-up? --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Frobisher Garb
I am, once again, making a Frobisher suit for Ansel to wear at Bristol. This time I want to approximate the outfit Sir Martin is wearing in the only full length portrait of him that I have seen. I need some input though on the jerkin he is wearing. I think that it looks to be made of leather, but I have no concept of how to make the sleeves gather like that. Or how you would get hands through such a tight sleeve with no visible opening. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. I have tried to included a link to the portrait, but can't seem to get it to work. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Frobisher Garb
Do you have any ideas on the ruching effect in the cuff area? Is it perhaps just a long fore arm pushed up? Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- --- On Wed, 4/14/10, Maggie maggi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Maggie maggi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Frobisher Garb To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 3:43 PM The sleeves certainly have wrist openings, but both hands are painted wrist down, so you can't see them. They're there, I an assure you, on the inside of the wrist. At the top, they're lightly gathered into the armhole of the doublet underneath the leather jerkin. There's a pretty good image here http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/images/Frobisher,Martin(Sir)01.jpg MaggiRos Maggie Secara ~A Compendium of Common Knowledge 1558-1603 Available at your favorite online bookseller See our gallery at http://www.zazzle.com/popinjaypress On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:14 PM, REBECCA BURCH ctrvlyf...@sbcglobal.netwrote: I am, once again, making a Frobisher suit for Ansel to wear at Bristol. This time I want to approximate the outfit Sir Martin is wearing in the only full length portrait of him that I have seen. I need some input though on the jerkin he is wearing. I think that it looks to be made of leather, but I have no concept of how to make the sleeves gather like that. Or how you would get hands through such a tight sleeve with no visible opening. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. I have tried to included a link to the portrait, but can't seem to get it to work. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?
Finally I have something to share when this post comes around!! Ansel II is wearing the beaded vest I made for my youngest son, waiting for the rest of his regalia to be finished. It's faux suede with about 3 pounds of glass pony beads in a modified Potawatomee design. The dance apron is going to have the central motif beaded on it as well, but I had to order more beads. I haven't decided if the moccasins will be beaded as well - depends on how my hands hold up. Eventually, I will probably make a shirt to wear under the vest as well, but for the moment he just wears a breastplate. On the cutting table is new garb for the oldest son's Ren Faire character, Captain Sir Martin Frobisher. Actually, two new suits - one is more work-a-day brown Venetians with a plain doublet, the other is a nice two tone green brocade for a Court suit with slops and sleeves. Also three new chemises, since the old ones have been worn to rags. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- --- On Mon, 3/1/10, Cin cinbar...@gmail.com wrote: From: Cin cinbar...@gmail.com Subject: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? To: h-cost h-cost...@indra.com Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 7:30 PM It's spring (where I live). You might be making something for the end of the theater season, a party, a wedding, a con or a re-enactment. Whatever the reason, costumers are probably making something. So, what's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com PS. It's ok to run into the sewing room, toss something spiffy on the dummy and *then* tell us about it. You could tell us about what's on your worktable, hat block or in the box that you keep your current project in. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?
I don't yet, but will certainly share when it is all done and put together. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- --- On Tue, 3/2/10, Penny Ladnier penn...@costumegallery.com wrote: From: Penny Ladnier penn...@costumegallery.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 3:39 PM Rebecca, Do you have some photos that we can see of his regalia? Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Braddock uniform
I don't remember who was looking for this information, but I happened to mention this to my soon-to-be nephew who is getting his Doctorate in History in this time frame (don't ask, I have no idea). At any rate, he sent me this info to pass on: Here are a couple of resources that might be helpful to you. http://www.militaryheritage.com/ This company supplies all sorts of replica weaponry, uniforms, accoutrements for a number of different periods including the Seven Years'/French and Indian War. They've also got supplies of 24 oz/yard wool for $18.95 a metre. In 2005, there was a 250th anniversary commemoration of Braddock's march which included a living history event at Carlyle House museum in Alexandria, Virginia, pictures from which, including details of the re-enactor playing Braddock's uniform, can be found here: http://www.fortedwards.org/braddock/article/grndasmb.htm I'm not sure whether they do this event every year, or whether it was a one-time thing. Regardless, you could probably contact the museum, as I'm sure they would have information, if not on the uniform specifically, at very least contact information for the re-enactor: Carlyle House Historic Park 121 N. Fairfax Street Alexandria VA 22314 (703) 549-2997 As for the colour of Braddock's trousers, I'm not sure. The original painting George Washington During the French and Indian War by Junius Brutus Stearns, ca. 1849-1856, at the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts portrays Braddock in a plain red coat with yellow fronting and buff trousers, but a hand-coloured lithograph of the same painting held by the Museum of Fort Ticonderoga depicts Braddock in a blue coat with cream fronting, a burgundy sash and white trousers. There are a number of other paintings that I found, but none in colour that were earlier than the Stearns painting, and at 100 years after the fact it can hardly be considered authoritative. If the Coldstream Guards portraits indicate white trousers (and that's what he's already got) I would go with that. I think that's about as much help as I can be at the moment, but if anything else comes to mind I'll send it along. --- If he comes up with anything, I will let you know. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Amazing textile in today's New York Times
That is absolutely incredible!!! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Ruth Anne Baumgartner Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:01 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Amazing textile in today's New York Times Fascinating article, stunning photos: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/23/arts/design/23spiders.html? pagewanted=1themc=th --Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] having it all in one place
I wish you luck with this project. I tried a similar exercise a couple of years ago. My husband and both boys were going on a Scout trip to the Boundary Waters and were going to be gone for two weeks. House to myself, nobody to cook for or drive around - perfect time. Before they left I had them cart all the boxes out of the storage area (some had been there since we moved here in 1994) and shifted everything out of my workroom into the living room. Two weeks later they came home - I had made a pretty good dent in the piles, but had made the mistake of trying to finish up projects as I came to them. Unfortunately, before I could finish up we had family come to visit and everything that was in organized piles in the living room got shoved back into my workroom all higiggly piggly and had never been so close to organization since. My advice - have a friend help you sort and get rid of stuff. At the very least you might be persuaded to shift some of your stash to her sewing room. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- --- On Thu, 9/3/09, Alexandria Doyle garbaho...@gmail.com wrote: From: Alexandria Doyle garbaho...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] having it all in one place To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 3:58 PM I use to have it all in one little room, sigh, then there was this host of family members moving in and out - my daughter and granddaughter are here now and everything is scattered. I know I have tubs full of stuff that I won't use again, that were once organized on shelves and occasionally used, but now they are out of sight, out of mind and I buy new frequently rather than rummage through the stash. Next year on my job I'm up to three weeks of vacation, and I'm sincerely thinking that maybe I should take one of those weeks and clean out the stash. I'd have space to work in again and know where things are... alex On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Mary + Doug Piero Careymary.d...@pierocarey.info wrote: Oh, are you building? We were not so ambitious. We only moved from a 1911ish American Foursquare into a 1960 Ranch. It is a lovely house, but the proportions are SO different! The closets are a completely different shape NONE of my boxes fit into them. We had to completely repack everything that was in seasonal storage boxes into different shapes. And the Pantry shelves were DEFinitely not spaced by anyone with a clue about the dimensions of food packages. Marjorie Wilser said: Oh, huzzah for having it all in ONE place! I have yet to achievethat nirvana. . . have to make the place first ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- So much to do and so little attention span to get it done with… ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] having it all in one place
The Extension office has an event like this every spring. Called the Sewers Smorgasbord. They partner with the Wool Growers Board and a couple of the quilter guilds and put on quite an event. Workshops, demos, presentations and a large room where you can sell fabric/trim/notions etc. Unfortunately, I have the same problem you do - I always come home with more than I take. I rationalize it by telling myself that the cost is offset by the money made. (It never is, but I can lie to myself quite well.) Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- --- On Thu, 9/3/09, Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com wrote: From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] having it all in one place To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 8:19 PM Rebecca, it seems your only mistake was in letting your husband and sons back in the house. ;) Plese bear with me, I'll get to my point soon. We (Greater Bay Area Costumers' Guild, San Francisco, CA) had a costumers' rummage sale last weekend. I know that although I sold lots of vintage patterns, trims and ribbons, I'm afraid I brought home more than I left with. I bought fabric and books, and they're much bulkier than what I brought. It was amazing the variety of what was brought to the sale, and there were only 20 of us selling our stashes and outcasts. By the end of the afternoon, I would questimate that about half of the items were no longer in the room and had found new homes. When you've got a sale specifically for costumers, you know what they'll want and they know what they can hopefully find there, rather than a flea market where it could be anything from a broken toaster to brand new jeans. May I suggest that you try to get an event like that to happen in your area amongst your friends and co-costumers and sewers. In getting ready for it, I found missing projects, got rid of those shoes I love that hurt every time I wear them, located duplicate books, that sort of thing. It actually helped me organize parts of my stash. Fabric, trim, books, hats, accessories, patterns, even real costume pieces and vintage pieces moved from loving hand to loving hand. We were lucky that we were able to use an air-conditioned room in a community center but I know that the Southern California group have had several very successful costumers' sales in the past, some in back yards when necessary. The consensus was that we all had a wonderful time. I think that everyone felt they had gotten a good deal and we got to visit with like-minded people. At the very least we got to visit and stuff moved from one closet to another. Our wonderful organizers had snacks and water there for us. We were charged $5 per table and those not in the GBACG paid a door charge of $5. It was a minor amount and helped defray costs of holding the sale. LynnD On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:26 PM, REBECCA BURCH ctrvlyf...@sbcglobal.netwrote: I wish you luck with this project. I tried a similar exercise a couple of years ago. My husband and both boys were going on a Scout trip to the Boundary Waters and were going to be gone for two weeks. House to myself, nobody to cook for or drive around - perfect time. Before they left I had them cart all the boxes out of the storage area (some had been there since we moved here in 1994) and shifted everything out of my workroom into the living room. Two weeks later they came home - I had made a pretty good dent in the piles, but had made the mistake of trying to finish up projects as I came to them. Unfortunately, before I could finish up we had family come to visit and everything that was in organized piles in the living room got shoved back into my workroom all higiggly piggly and had never been so close to organization since. My advice - have a friend help you sort and get rid of stuff. At the very least you might be persuaded to shift some of your stash to her sewing room. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- --- On Thu, 9/3/09, Alexandria Doyle garbaho...@gmail.com wrote: From: Alexandria Doyle garbaho...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] having it all in one place To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 3:58 PM I use to have it all in one little room, sigh, then there was this host of family members moving in and out - my daughter and granddaughter are here now and everything is scattered. I know I have tubs full of stuff that I won't use again, that were once organized on shelves and occasionally used, but now they are out
Re: [h-cost] Madison to Milwaukee
Also living in Madison, and trekking to the Bristol Renn Fair in Kenosha every weekend, Mad City to Milw is approx 1 1/2 hour drive, depending on construction :) Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 2:27 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Laser scissors Hi Henry, How far, in hours, is Milwaukee from Madison? I'm thinking of staying there dragging my bff with me for CC28. == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Aug 22, 2009, at 11:39 AM, cc2010m...@cs.com wrote: I have information on these, because I have a pair! There is a website called Think Geek that has them. http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/ tools/a823/ I had to have a pair because I am also the President of the Armed Costumers Guild, and I could not resist scissors with a laser sight! They are from a company called Shesto Ltd, in the UK, and their site is www.modelcraftcollection.com. The laser line is bright and easy to see and the batteries are easy to change. And the blades are not dull. Henry W. Osier Chairman, Costume-Con 28 May 7 to May 10, 2010 www.CC28.org Look for our fan page on Facebook! And on Twitter: CostumeCon28 Got questions? Join the CostumeCon Yahoo group! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What is this called?
Penny, I buy a pad of large easel paper from Office Max which has a 1 grid on it. It works great for me! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Penny Ladnier Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 3:21 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] What is this called? Many thanks to everyone for the advice. I didn't need the big roll. I could purchase by the foot at http://sewtrue.com/Store/60-Dotted-Marking-Paper-Per-Foot-P607.html . Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] current clothing exhibition at the Chicago History Museum
Thought this might be of interest to some - I'm trying to figure out how to get there and see it! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * http://www.threadsmagazine.com/item/7237/exhibition-chic-chicago-at-the-chic ago-history-museum http://www.threadsmagazine.com/item/7237/exhi http://www.threadsmagazine.com/item/7237/exhi lotsofteap...@charter.net sent this using ShareThis http://sharethis.com . _ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] quiet list
I am frantically trying to finish garb for my very-fast-growing 3 1/2 year old for a faire this weekend. However, the weather forecast keeps changing! I have all but the sleeve rings on the wool suit, and some hand-finishing on the other outfit; and buttons and loops on the shirts. Still need to make a new biggens or two. And bake bread; and cut apples to dry; and boil eggs; and pick herbs... Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Mr Darcy outfit
My oldest son has requested some assistance with an outfit he needs to wear to a Regency Ball at the end of the month. I got most of the jacket done before he had to return to Chicago, but he will have to deal the the waistcoat on his own. I don't do much menswear, but I seem to recall there is a method of stitching the lining around the armholes and most of the outer edge and then turning it inside out so that all the edges are finished. Does anybody know somewhere he could get directions? (and me - you never know when it might come in handy!) Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Flemish Dress
Thanks for the explanation! I'm curious now too, were you only going to line the bodice, or the whole skirt as well? I just imagine that lining the skirt with wool would be incredibly heavy, no matter how light the wool is to start with. Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of J A Urbik Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 6:42 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Flemish Dress I chose to line with wool for two reasons. reason 1) Drea sais that the shrinerose gown was lined with wool, so i figured i'd go with that. This gown bodice will have three pieces: one back, and two front pieces. Lining is optional. The shinrone gown was partially lined with wool; it is a rather complex lining process, involving extending the bodice pattern down and folding the excess fabric up on the inside. I tried it, and it made quite a respectable gown bodice. reason 2) it is fairly easy to make the gowns reversable, so I do so, and I figured that if I wanted wool on the outside, and i wanted it reversable, I needed wool on both sides. reasson 3) not a big deal, but if one wants wool, one of the reasons that one wants wool is that it hanges diffrently then linen, and so lining with linen would change the hang? this one i am not too sure of cause i have not done much with wool in the past. On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Rebecca Schmitt lotsofteap...@charter.net wrote: I'm curious why you decided to line with wool as well as use wool for the top fabric? Most of the extant garments I can think of (and, admittedly, my memory on this is not spectacular!) are lined with linen. I made an overgown of this sort a few years back, with the outside a mid-to-lightweight wool and the lining linen; I'm pretty sure I did not use an interlining of any sort. I it cut away in the front quite a bit, so it really doesn't come together much past the shoulder straps. It's very comfy, although it does wrinkle some. That doesn't really bother me much - the ease of movement as I chase my 3-year-old is much more important! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of J A Urbik Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 7:40 AM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Flemish Dress Hi all, am making this year's edition of the whole flemish dress, this time I am making a Gored Kirtle (http://www.elizabethancostume.net/kirtlepat/gored.html) and an overdress (http://www.elizabethancostume.net/lowerclass/makeflem.html#gown). In the past I had made both under and overdress out of linen, because I was mostly doing summer events. However, this time I am going to make the overdress out of wool, with wool as the lining. Both are fairly light weight, and we will see about how hot it is (i actually think it should be book, at least for non-extremely hot days, and for the really hot days, a couple of pieces of ice down the bodice should do wonders). What I would like advise about would be should I put an addition layer of sturdy linen or something as an underlining on the bodice, or will the just the wool be ok? I know I will need a strip of something sturdy down the front edges, from previous experience with the style, but I have not worked too much in wool, so i don't know how it will go. The gored kirtle that the overdress will go on top of is a fashion fabric and a lining, both of sturdy linen, but not heavyweight. I wear size 16/18 and am about a B cup (about 5'4 and 180 pounds) if that influances your advise. Thanks for all help. jordana ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Flemish Dress
I'm curious why you decided to line with wool as well as use wool for the top fabric? Most of the extant garments I can think of (and, admittedly, my memory on this is not spectacular!) are lined with linen. I made an overgown of this sort a few years back, with the outside a mid-to-lightweight wool and the lining linen; I'm pretty sure I did not use an interlining of any sort. I it cut away in the front quite a bit, so it really doesn't come together much past the shoulder straps. It's very comfy, although it does wrinkle some. That doesn't really bother me much - the ease of movement as I chase my 3-year-old is much more important! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of J A Urbik Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 7:40 AM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Flemish Dress Hi all, am making this year's edition of the whole flemish dress, this time I am making a Gored Kirtle (http://www.elizabethancostume.net/kirtlepat/gored.html) and an overdress (http://www.elizabethancostume.net/lowerclass/makeflem.html#gown). In the past I had made both under and overdress out of linen, because I was mostly doing summer events. However, this time I am going to make the overdress out of wool, with wool as the lining. Both are fairly light weight, and we will see about how hot it is (i actually think it should be book, at least for non-extremely hot days, and for the really hot days, a couple of pieces of ice down the bodice should do wonders). What I would like advise about would be should I put an addition layer of sturdy linen or something as an underlining on the bodice, or will the just the wool be ok? I know I will need a strip of something sturdy down the front edges, from previous experience with the style, but I have not worked too much in wool, so i don't know how it will go. The gored kirtle that the overdress will go on top of is a fashion fabric and a lining, both of sturdy linen, but not heavyweight. I wear size 16/18 and am about a B cup (about 5'4 and 180 pounds) if that influances your advise. Thanks for all help. jordana ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Flemish Dress
Thanks, I can certainly see the usefulness of that construction! My outfits are almost exclusively for high summer, where linen is a good thing - not only from a heat standpoint, but also just a weight issue. Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Melanie Schuessler Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 8:35 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Flemish Dress You didn't ask me, but since mine is also wool lined with wool, I'll send my answer too. I had two great pieces of wool, and I wanted it to be warm and reversible. I only wear it to cold-weather events with the woolen partlet on top and woolen sleeves pinned on. With my head covered and a pair of gloves (or my hands tucked into the overskirt), I'm toasty for long periods down to around 40 degrees F. Melanie Schuessler On Mar 3, 2009, at 9:26 PM, Rebecca Schmitt wrote: I'm curious why you decided to line with wool as well as use wool for the top fabric? Most of the extant garments I can think of (and, admittedly, my memory on this is not spectacular!) are lined with linen. I made an overgown of this sort a few years back, with the outside a mid-to-lightweight wool and the lining linen; I'm pretty sure I did not use an interlining of any sort. I it cut away in the front quite a bit, so it really doesn't come together much past the shoulder straps. It's very comfy, although it does wrinkle some. That doesn't really bother me much - the ease of movement as I chase my 3-year-old is much more important! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?
At the moment there are three, new style, Boy Scout shirts with patches pinned on that need to be completed before their outing this weekend. I'm so glad they don't re-design the uniform very often. Some day I'm going to follow through with my threat to use fabric glue. Except that would just work against me since they have to be changed every so often as rank and positions change. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] help needed to find a notion
I am making Vogue 7488, view C, which is a men's formal vest to wear with a tux. The notions list one cummerbund assembly (two sliders and one buckle). Can anyone tell me what those might be, and where I could find them? Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help needed to find a notion
That's it! Thankyouthankyouthankyou. I couldn't figure out how to search to find what I wanted! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Shane Sheridan Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 2:59 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] help needed to find a notion You would be looking for these: http://www.bblackandsons.com/store/media/product-images/tuxedo /TX-06.jpg basically a simple buckle and a slider to allow you to adjust the back of the cummerbund to fit. Hope that helps! Sheridan P From: Rebecca Schmitt lotsofteap...@charter.net Reply-To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] help needed to find a notion Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:44:52 -0600 I am making Vogue 7488, view C, which is a men's formal vest to wear with a tux. The notions list one cummerbund assembly (two sliders and one buckle). Can anyone tell me what those might be, and where I could find them? Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] tape stickem problem
Anybody have any ideas how to remove duct tape stickum from ultra suede? I have a beautiful throw, dark blue ultra suede on one side, long pile on the other. Eldest son used it to cover a Nagahide chair with duct tape repairs. End result is that body heat melted the tape stickum which is now in spots on the suede side (thank goodness - imagine if it was stuck to the pile!!!) I have tried pulling the residue off with new pieces of tape with no success. I am hesitant to try Goo Gone or other solvents due to the 100% poly fiber content. I want to clean it, not melt it. It is too large to put in the freezer, although now I think about it I could just put it out on the front porch - it was minus 10 yesterday AM. Any suggestions gratefully accepted. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] some more questions about 1930's formal wear
Vest: The tux did not come with a vest, so I'll have to come up with that separately. Since I'm not sure that I would be able to match the black wool, were vests made of other fabrics? Maybe silk or satin? Does it have to be black, or were other colors used? If another color, would the tie need to match, or would it stay black? There are two kinds depending upon your tux style: low-cut front/backless with a strap that runs around the waist. Usually linen and heavily starched, oft worn with a bib (you seen those things that curl up on old comedies?); or a more common style waistcoat with a few pockets, fake lapels and so forth. Waistcoats may be optional depending on how modern in thought your man is (was?) and the lapel cut of your jacket -- the old fogies can stand back with thier cigars and sniff at the modern non-vest wearers. Cumberbuns are an easy option. So, the vest was made of linen? Would satin or silk be acceptable? Can I make a vest in some other color than black? If so, does the tie need to match? Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] some more questions about 1930's formal wear
Close enough for the purpose. And now he has a tux! :) Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of debloughcostu...@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 5:23 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] some more questions about 1930's formal wear But you do know that a modern tuxedo, even tweaked, wouldn't equate to 30s evening dress, right? It's dinner dress (hence it still being known as a dinner ajcket here). For evening dress in the 30s you're talking tails. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] some more questions about 1930's formal wear
So, I have a few more questions about 1930's formalwear, mostly for men: I have a tux coming for my hubby, and I will take in the jacket at the waist to get the right silhouette. However... Shirt: From what I can tell, white cotton, preferrably pique. Did they use studs in the shirt? Do the studs need to match the cufflinks? Vest: The tux did not come with a vest, so I'll have to come up with that separately. Since I'm not sure that I would be able to match the black wool, were vests made of other fabrics? Maybe silk or satin? Does it have to be black, or were other colors used? If another color, would the tie need to match, or would it stay black? Shoes: I assume black patent leather lace-ups would work. I've also seen some reference to spectator shoes or brogues. How common were they, and would they be appropriate for formalwear? Also, women's shoes: what would be appropriate? Basic pumps? Strappy sandals? Something in-between? My gown will be sapphire blue with champagne accents; would ivory shoes work OK? Thanks for answering all my questions - I just don't have the time I want to devote to research (houses and husbands and children, oh my!), and the event is at the beginning of February. Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] evening gown circa 1934
This is just for an evening ball, including any and all eras. I happen to have a Vintage Vogue pattern and thought it would be fun to make it! So, I was more curious than anything about colors. I chose a sapphire blue (crepe on one side, satin on the other - I haven't decided which side I'll use yet) with a champagne shantung contrast. Hopefully the ivory pumps I have will work OK; I'm not sure what I would use otherwise! I'll try to post pictures, but I don't really have a good place to post them right nowmaybe someday :) Thanks all for the help! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Cin Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 11:00 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] evening gown circa 1934 Absolutely everything just as the writer below says. I tend to think of it more as an ice cream colors era. Big florals were in fashion as a summer thing in a few years. It would help if you'd give us more context next time. Hollywood startlet is likely more sparkly than the recent widow at a small social among close friends. Summer fashion differs from winter. Look at vintage magazines (Life) or vintage pattern pictures (www.oldpatterns.com big 4 pattern companies) for some ideas. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com There are extant examples and designs in just about every colour you can imagine - pinks, greys, greens, black (a perenniel favourite!), blues, greens, whites and ivories - there are even a couple in gold or silver lame, or prints. Particular faves of mine are a gold lame overlaid with black lace which in turn is appliqued with black velvet (by schiaparelli), and a pale pink loosely pleated silk jersey number (by alix gres), a Cadbury's purple satin by Lanvin, a Chanel in blue sequinned tulle, and one in leopard print by a designer I don't remember the name of (but it's in the va, like several of my favourites). I know there are a few, but the 30s is one of my all time favourite periods! . And when I was little my Nana had a stunning pale green satin evening dress, with light silver and pink beading, that she made as part of her training course in the mid 30s. I'm not aware that any colours in particular are massively inappropriate, although obviously there would have been certain colours that were more fashionable than others, as with any date. Debbie What colors would be appropriate for an evening gown circa 1934? What colors would be totally INappropriate? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Fabrics up for sale on ebay
In case anyone is interested, I have listed a few fabrics on ebay which I purchased at an estate auction. They were parts of lots and I do not need them. However, they do look vintage, are all of natural fibers (linen or cotton by burn test), and I thought there may be someone here who might like them! You can look up my auctions by lotsofpots21 or email me for the auction numbers. Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] color question
What colors would be appropriate for an evening gown circa 1934? What colors would be totally INappropriate? Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Which end of the thread?
I do a lot of handwork and have found that there are so many factors involved - quality, fiber, weather, etc. - I just bypass the whole thing and coat my thread with beeswax. Gives strength to cheap thread and smooths fibers so there is less wear. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:25:22 - Viv Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is not exactly historical but it is about hand-sewing, so... I have always thought that you thread the end that comes off the spool first through the needle. But today I was reading one of those 'useful hints' books which said you should thread the other end first to prevent knots! Any thoughts? Viv. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Men's clothing from 1930's
Thanks for all these details! Any suggestions on a good pattern to start with? Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 6:01 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Men's clothing from 1930's Jeeze, you are in luck, things have not changed that much for us blokes, especially for evening and formal wear. You can use almost any really good suit/dinner suit pattern, perhaps use a shawl lapel (the long, curved ones) in satin. White jacket for summer wear, black for cooler months. One or two button fronts, no more than four buttons on the cuff. For a more military look, you may with to try a mess jacket, a formal waist- length jacket which is now mostly worn by snooty waiters and Scotsmen in kilts (oh, and me). Don't scrimp on your structuring. Use good thickness of padding with horsehair in the structure and strong shoulder inserts. A cumberbund can add a lot to the look. Trouser waists were much higher, sitting on the acutal waist, so you will have to adjust for that, loose fit over the hips with at least two pleats (three will sit better). Belt and matching braces (button-on, not clip-on, work better). If you are adding a bow tie, get the real thing and practise tying it rather than a clip-fastening type as have come into fashion. The real thing sits much better. For tips on the overall silhouette, you can't go past old movies, easily accessable, made at the time, -C. I have one ov Vogue's vintage patterns for a 1938 (? or so) evening gown, which I am planning to make for an event in February. My husband would like to match me, but I'm not so familiar with men's clothing during this time This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Men's clothing from 1930's
The event is Reenactorfest, and they have a fancy dress dance/ball on Saturday evening. The eras range from Roman Centurions to Vietnam with everything else in between. I thought the 1930's evening gown would be fun, and my hubby wants to make a matching couple. Would renting a modern tux be the best option? Any other suggestions are quite welcome!!! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Men's clothing from 1930's Evening clothes haven't changed too much really. I mean is it black tie or white tie? Rent some evening wear. Lapels are wide, waists nipped (and at their real level), and pants are pleated, wide legged and cuffed. Is it a dinner? Dinner jackets have shawl collars, and I believe they can be white but there are rules for these kind of things, like a white dinner jacket may only be right for summer or warm climates. I'm not sure. **Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x12008 12037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Men's clothing from 1930's
Actually, I think that would make *me* the moll :) He'd just be a gangster/mobster. Certainly an option. I'll have to ask him which way he would like to go... Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 4:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Men's clothing from 1930's In a message dated 11/17/2008 5:03:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that would be moll. Rhymes with doll? *** Isn't that what I typed? Oops... **Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x12008 12037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Men's clothing from 1930's
Hey all! I'm looking for some resources I have one ov Vogue's vintage patterns for a 1938 (? or so) evening gown, which I am planning to make for an event in February. My husband would like to match me, but I'm not so familiar with men's clothing during this time period in general, nor am I knowledgeable about where to get patterns, etc. I figure his is going to be the harder of the two (I made the gown before, but lost too much weight, so now I need to remake). Any thoughts about where to look for patterns for men's suits in the 1930's? Thanks! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J A Urbik Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:16 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Sharp's Rifes Costumes Hey, a friend of mine wants a copy of some of the coats from sharps rifels, the dvd series. I have not watched the, but I do have them on order from the library, so I will be watching them very soon. However, preparatory to watching, I figured that I would look at what costumers said about this era/this series as I have never done any costuming this modern.Does anyone have a absolute fav pattern or web site for this era? Oh, I will mostly making stuff for a woman, but she wants the men's clothing, so i don't really care about the female side of the costumes. thanks for any help or pointers that people on this list send, jordana ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] All Hallows
Since I work from home I didn't bother to dress up for myself, but Hubby went to teach at the High School in his Beekeeper suit. He waited too late to try on his garb and it needed more alteration than I could do in one night. Ah, the rewards of procrastination - less work for me, more sweat for him. Those suits aren't made to breath!! Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] All Hallows To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 3:13 PM So who dressed up for work today and what are you wearing? I am taking the girls to the Mall for a costume contest, and I am wearing my Empire gown with stays et al. My girls will be an angel and a fairy--very apropos. As I am a homeschooling, stay-at-home mom, that very much falls under the heading of work (as well as fun, of course)... Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net http://historicalfictionbooks.ning.com/profile/MarjorieGilbert ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 16th century maternity clothes
I think that she is just wearing a loose kirtle and gown, like what is in Janet Arnold. I have a picture of me while 7-8 months pregnant in a loose kirtle overgown based on that pattern (actually a Margo Anderson pattern based on the Janet Arnold...), and I think it's a pretty similar silhouette. I don't have a place to post the photo online, but I can send it to you, if you would like to compare. Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maggie Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 6:55 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] 16th century maternity clothes At least, for a noble lady. This is Mildred, Lady Burghley about 1566. http://foto.rambler.ru/public/grebnelim/7/003/003-webbig.jpg Now the question is, what is the 'bodice bit, really? It always looks like elastic to me, which of course it isn't. Is it part of a kirtle of some kind? Does anyone know more about htis painting or this garment? No, I'm not pregnant. Just idle curiosity. :-) MaggiRos ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Corsetry issues (was Looking for bad examples)
We have a member of our guilde at Bristol who has cardiac issues and is unable to wear anything too binding. Even a well-fitted corset would cause problems for her. Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] OT - Halloween help needed - toddler/preschool football helmet
I'm starting to run out of ideas, so I'm asking here My 3-year-old wants to be a football guy for Halloween. We have a jersey, I can rig up pants no problem. However, I'm stumped on the helmet. No one seems to make toddler size play football helmets! The closest I can come up with is a $45 complete football uniform which includes the helmet from the NFL shop online. Does anyone have any ideas? Somewhere else to look? (I've tried sports stores, athletic apparel, only the full sets, if anything, especially for this age). Some way to rig something up? Although, once it is made, it may need to take a beating during Sunday afternoon football games :) Thanks! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What to see in the UK
I'd highly recommend the National Portrait Gallery. And the VA, of course! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Walpole Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 11:09 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: [h-cost] What to see in the UK Hello everyone, I'm in the early planning stages of a Holliday to the UK about this time next year and I'm trying to work out what I should visit, I'm spending a week in London with friends and after that point I'm planning to spend another 2 or 3 weeks around the UK Ireland. the London part of my trip is fairly firmly planned but for the rest of the UK Ireland I've only got Bath, Stratford on Avon, Warwick Castle, and Hampton Court definitely on my list so far, so what else would you suggest for a costumer and Tudor history nut? Elizabeth --- Elizabeth Walpole Canberra, Australia http://magpiecostumer.110mb.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Belated greetings
Had a phone conversation with my son, Ansel, recently. He who played Captain Sir Martin Frobisher in previous years at Bristol. Now that Faire is over for the year, he suddenly remembers that somebody from this list recognized him at Bristol this year and said to say HI. Sorry, I never got the message and he doesn't remember who it was. Actually what he said was - Hey, Mom, meant to tell you. One of your costume buddies said to say Hello. Since he had a part in a show this year and a new street character (Farmer Bernard), he wasn't wearing the Frobie suit this year. Therefore, it had to be somebody who recognized the face not the garb. So, greetings back to whomever. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?
Ya know, I think this is the best answer yet! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * My patience, -C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Getting ready for Halloween
How about a real old western? Destry Rides Again with Marlene Dietrch Jimmy Stewart. (yeah, I know, Jimmy Stewart does not bring to mind western, now does he?) This outfit definitely reminds me of one of her outfits in that movie :) http://www.marlene.com/films.html Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Audrey Bergeron-Morin Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 1:56 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Getting ready for Halloween Well, this is sort of OT, but not quite. We're invited to a Halloween party, where the theme is movie characters, and the sub-theme is something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue. I'm severly out of time to do this, so I was looking at the Big4 patterns. I really like this one (the short version, top left) http://www.simplicity.com/dv1_v4.cfm?design=2851 Can anyone direct me to a movie containing an outfit that looks like this? (Hey, if it's a Western, it's at least historicaloid!) We have a few other nice ideas if this one doesn't work out... ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] CostumeCon 27 website
Just a quick suggestion - could you put the dates and city prominently on the home page? I had to finally go to the flyer to find out it was in Baltimore. Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Mitchell Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:37 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] CostumeCon 27 Cin wrote: Gentle costumers, Is there a chat list for the upcoming CC27 like there was for CC26? I went over to their webpage and it was nearly a blank slate. There's almost no info except for non-costume things like a quilt competition. Oh, sure lots of headers but all follow-on pages are blank. So, either I'm on the wrong site or there's no info out. Where's one to go for class panel info? Where's one to go for hotel info? Where are the future fashion folio designs? check again - it is all there (just unfortunately hard to read). All the masquerade info is under Events. I know all the Historic stuff is up, because I'm the director and I put it there long ago. Textile Arts has the info about the quilt contest, the Future Fashion Folio info is up (and ends Oct 1!), both the Historic and SF/F masqerades are under Stage, and the Single Pattern Contest is a link on the main Events page as well as by a yellow sticker on the main page. As to hotel info, see that annoying red blinking line about the free wifi parking? it says hotel just above that. And Registration info is under How to Join near the bottom on the left. And apparently the programming folks have made up a questionaire asking for ideas of what you want to see that has a link under programming - beside another yellow sticker. They'd love to know what people are interested in going to. yeah, I agree, it's not the greatest design in the world, and the background keeps breaking off any time the webmaster tries to make a change... but much of the basic early info is there. Actual forms will be posted as soon as the forms guy sends them to the webmaster sigh. Make sure you're going to the right page: http://www.costume-con.com/cc27/INDEX.HTM Oh, and I have been slowly posting bits of info as it comes out on the costumecon LiveJournal community. You can find stage dimensions in a post earlier this year over there. -Judy Mitchell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] CostumeCon 27 website
Ayes, one of those. I understand, and will (in my spare time! Ha!) try to send an email to the webmaster to try to convince him that making the website more user-friendly will make attendance much higher! :) Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Mitchell Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 9:25 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] CostumeCon 27 website Rebecca Schmitt wrote: Just a quick suggestion - could you put the dates and city prominently on the home page? I had to finally go to the flyer to find out it was in Baltimore. I can pass on the request - I'm only the Historic Masquerade Director, so I have no effect on the website. Actually, the date is on there in the red line in the lower center, but I agree it's hard to find (like a lot of things). Hey, Im trying to get him to turn the annoying blink off! People can always contact the webmaster, he might listen to people other than the 'routine nag' (not trying to pass the buck, but you know how people are when they only get feedback from one nagging source ;-) ). all the contact addresses may be found on http://www.costume-con.com/cc27/contact_us.htm . His rationale on not listing the location is that if you want to go, you'll go regardless of where it is rolled eyes, and when you check out the hotel it tells you there what city sigh. -Judy Mitchell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Shoes
Does anybody have a source in the Chicago area for character shoes that Ansel might be able to purchase without a long wait? He will be a new character this year and therefore will not be able to wear the sea captain boots his has been wearing for the past couple of years. This year he has a part in one of the stage shows - he will play a baker - and he is working up a new street character, where he is a bee keeper. He waited far too late to think about this. Bristol opens in two weeks, so if we need to order we need to order soon!!! Any suggestions will be gratefully appreciated. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pincushion
That's it exactly! Thank you. --- Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: REBECCA BURCH wrote: Around Christmas, somebody was talking about a St. Stephen (?) pin cushion that they had been given. Came from a web-site with similar type nifty gifty products. I bookmarked the site and now can not find it. Does anybody remember this? St. Sebastian. I was the lucky recipient. It's here: http://www.philosophersguild.com/index.lasso?page_mode=Product_Detailitem=0195 --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] pincushion
Around Christmas, somebody was talking about a St. Stephen (?) pin cushion that they had been given. Came from a web-site with similar type nifty gifty products. I bookmarked the site and now can not find it. Does anybody remember this? Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] help please! need of 16th century shirts
Can anyone help? I have someone in need of 16th century woman's high-necked smock who does not sew well. I probably do not have time to make one for her. In a quick scan online, I wasn't happy with what I was seeing. Does anyone know of a reputable source with good historic shirts at a reasonable price? Thanks! *** Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence Bristol Renaissance Faire My arms are too short to box with God. --Johnny Cash *** ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Catching Up
I don't know about Image 1, but Image 2 is bordered by what my Grandmother called lattice work. I don't know if that is general usage, but that is what I know it to be. --- Penny Ladnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Image: http://www.costumegallery.com/temp/P1030368.jpg . This is a skirt section of a dress. The overdress has two panels hanging from the waist. They are gathered on the hanging end and married by a rosette. My questions: Is there a period term for these hanging panels? I know I have seen this same type of treatment for curtains. But I can not even recall the name for this type of curtains. 2. Image: http://www.costumegallery.com/temp/P1030429.jpg . These medallions are borders on a three-tiered net dress. My question: What is the name of the type of hand-crochet around the medallions? It is a cotton thread very similar what is used on doilies. I am so embarrassed that I can't remember this term. I have made this type of crochet so many times. It is made by using a double or triple crochet, then chain two or three and then repeat. There are three rows of this type of crochet around each medallion. Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeencyclopedia.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] How Many Costume Books/Magazines/Photos Do You Own
--- Penny Ladnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This could be really fun to poll the list. Lurkers come out, wherever you are! About how many costume/fashion related books or magazines do you own? Let's see - way too many to count. I have 3 two drawer file cabinets with needlework/cross stitch, quilting, weaving/spinning, and craft mags. Plus all the needlework charts and patterns garnered from years of trading with friends. Books on the same subjects as well as all my costume books take up 4 48 shelves. What was the first one you purchased? Where did you purchase it? Survey of Costumes for Theater. Mary Washington College Bookstore, 1972. What was your most recent purchase? Most recently I replaced my Janet Arnold Patterns of Fashion 1560. I was stupid enough to lend my original copy to someone who was very careless and allowed it to be trashed. What do you think was the best deal that you have every made when purchasing a publication? When I scored about 10 books from the needlework section of the library during the Buck a Bag sale they have every year. All ten fit into one bag. Pays to belong to the Friends of the Library and go to the pre-sale! About how many period photographs do you own just for the costuming? Do old fashion mags count? What book or magazine is your most treasured...if your house was on fire, you would take it with you. What is the worse costume book that you own? I know Robin has a collection! I have some of the Dover publications. I don't use them, but my kids gave them to me because they know I like to sew Old timey stuff. Do you have a room devoted to your collection? Yes, I do. My workroom holds just about everything. When did you start collecting? Books, I have collected since childhood. Needlework and sewing since Jr. High. Costuming since college. Do you consider your collection for business or pleasure? Both - Optional questions: How many sewing machines do you own? What types and age? 4 - Great-grandmother's treadle (1890s?), Grandma's cabinet Singer (prob 40s), Mom's Featherweight, my Bernina Dressmaker from 1983. And a Brother overlock that I use on occasion to make ditty bags for the Scouts. I also have loaned out to family members several machines inherited from my Great Aunt Mabel, but since I don't really expect to ever get them back I won't count them. How many sewing patterns do you own? Until about a month ago I would have said at least 1000. I've been sewing for other people since High School. I also inherited the sewing room contents of my Grandmother and her sister(Aunt Mabel)- who never got rid of anything. Because you never know when you might need just that color or a little bit of that color yarn or whatever. And for years I used to go yardsaleing every weekend and buy whatever sewing/crafting stuff I could find. Amazing what you can find that way. Unfortunately, last month while searching for something in the storage room off the garage my hubby discovered that the pattern boxes had become nesting sites for many generations of mice. So I didn't even sort through the boxes - most of them hadn't been opened since we moved here 14 years ago - I just sent them to the burn pile. So now I am down to the ones in the house - probably about 50. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] How Many Costume Books/Magazines/Photos Do You Own
Wow, the Fleming Museum. I spent many days there when I was a kid. My dad taught at the UVM College of Forestry in the 60's and we would play on the grounds while waiting for him. Do they still have the theater in the basement? That was where I got my first taste of costuming. My sister (7)and I(10) were messing around and came across students spray painting chain mail for the Shakespeare Festival and let us help. I don't remember now if the outfits were knit or macrame, but they were made of rug type yarn and were being painted silver. I talked my folks into taking me to the show and remember being really struck by how very different things looked on stage versus off. I also broke my arm running down that big hill in the front. Do they still have the ice cream factory? Man, all sorts of memories popping up now! It was a really cool place to grow up. --- Hope Greenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About how many period photographs do you own just for the costuming? Well, not too many photographs were taken in the periods I'm interested in :-). But I do have a nice bunch of photos taken during a private visit to the attic of the Fleming Museum, Burlington, VT. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Help finding image
That's it!!! Thank you!!! *** Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence Bristol Renaissance Faire My arms are too short to box with God. --Johnny Cash *** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:48 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help finding image Rebecca Schmitt wrote: women in mid-16th century, with one of the women labelled something like countrywoman. If I'm not mixing up my images, she is carrying a basket (with chickens) This one? http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/-SGAPxUqpJAunP1FuPfR6g Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] saint/iconography question
Well, not that I'm trained either...but if you zoom in the two guys kneeling have crowns by their feet, indicating their royalty I assume, which would point to Magi/Kings. Ah - the third crown is behind the back of the standing guy. Also, I don't know when it started, but one of the Magi very often is dressed like a far eastern/persian (vs. two that look more European), which may by the one with the blue wrap around his head. They are also all carrying small vials/gifts, which would again be Magi. Also, Jesus is an infant, and the Magdalene doesn't show up in the Biblical account until He is well into His ministry (after age 30). So, that's my two cents. *** Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence Bristol Renaissance Faire My arms are too short to box with God. --Johnny Cash *** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Farmer Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 6:58 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] saint/iconography question We've been looking at this painting http://www.wga.hu/art/l/lorenzo/monaco/ador_mag.jpg Billed as Adoration of the Magi by Lorenzo Monaco ca. 1422 Are those really the Magi? (The folks with the halo's). To my *very* untrained eye, they remind me more of saints than Magi. The individual in the peach/orange with the blue head-wrap reminds me more of The Magdalene rather than one of the Magi. I'm not that good with early 15th c. art or saints iconography -- and I know that there are folks on this list that are more knowledgeable than I. Half my brain tells me that I should just take the painting title at face value and go with it, but those 3 individuals aren't like any other representations of Magi that I've seen. Thanks! Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] saint/iconography question
How do you determine that the person holding the sword and crown is a woman? My scan of the crowd seems to show all men, and holding a sword would definitely be a man's job. The gown worn is pretty much the same as the black man in pink directly to his right. And as mentioned before, the man in yellow sitting in the corner is definitely Joseph. For one, he has no brocaded trim on his gown. Not sure if yellow is significant (probably!) And I still think the red-gowned person is the third Magi, as 1) that is where the crown is and 2) this person is holding one of the three gifts. Yellow gowned Joseph is not. Where is Robin to tell us all how far off we are??? :-) *** Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence Bristol Renaissance Faire My arms are too short to box with God. --Johnny Cash *** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 9:03 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: [h-cost] saint/iconography question Ah - the third crown is behind the back of the standing guy. Yes, held by a woman (?) who is also holding a sword. My guess is that the Magi are the three bearded men with halos. The one with the blue headwrap seems to be wearing a high-waisted gown and seems to have breasts. No cloak like the three (definite) men are wearing. Notice also the woman holding the sword and crown also has blue gloves, as does the guy with the pointy beard and blue turban wrap. At first I thought Magi in green held a sword, but it looks more like the lining of his cloak. Interesting painting! -Carol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Farmer Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 6:58 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] saint/iconography question We've been looking at this painting http://www.wga.hu/art/l/lorenzo/monaco/ador_mag.jpg Billed as Adoration of the Magi by Lorenzo Monaco ca. 1422 Are those really the Magi? (The folks with the halos). To my *very* untrained eye, they remind me more of saints than Magi. The individual in the peach/orange with the blue head-wrap reminds me more of The Magdalene rather than one of the Magi. I'm not that good with early 15th c. art or saints iconography -- and I know that there are folks on this list that are more knowledgeable than I. Half my brain tells me that I should just take the painting title at face value and go with it, but those 3 individuals aren't like any other representations of Magi that I've seen. Thanks! Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Upcoming lecture date
April 5, huh? Hmnothing on the calendar at the moment...time to wheedle the hubby about watching the toddler for the day... :) *** Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence Bristol Renaissance Faire My arms are too short to box with God. --Johnny Cash *** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Netherton Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:30 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Upcoming lecture date For those who may be interested: I'll be doing a full day of lectures in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, on Saturday, April 5. The lecture day is sponsored by the Milwaukee SCA group, but non-members are quite welcome to attend. The lecture program will run from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. (including a break for lunch) and will cover five topics: The Gothic Fitted Dress The Greenland Gored Gown Will the Real Sideless Surcote Please Stand Up? The Problem of Women's Heraldic Dress Saintly Inspiration: Using Medieval Religious Figures for Costume Research Cost is $17 for SCA members or $20 for non-members. If you're a student, you pay only $10. Deadline for registrations is March 22, 2008, but because seats are limited, I'd encourage you to get reservations in earlier rather than later. (If you're not a member, you can skip the line on the form where it asks you for an SCA name!) Garb is optional. You can find more information on the topics, location, etc. here: http://caeranterth.northshield.org/Calendar/Netherton.html Feel free to forward/repost this message. --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Uniquely You form for sale
I know that we have had the discussion of dress forms on this list many times, and wanted to inform that I have put up a UY form on ebay for sale (Item Id: 110228560792) It is a size Medium. Why am I getting rid of it? Well, it's 25 lbs too big :) and while UY forms squish, they don't squish *that* much! *** Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence Bristol Renaissance Faire My arms are too short to box with God. --Johnny Cash *** ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] muckinger construction
I have a quick question for those of you who go to the Bristol Ren Faire. Ansel was asking me to make him something called a muckinger which he saw for sale at the Faire. It was a double layer embroidered hanky. Based on his description, I am thinking that the double layer was to cover the back of machine embroidery stitching. Can anybody point me to a description of this accessory? I did a google search and didn't come up with much. None of the examples shown were double layered. The ones shown here are mostly lace trimmed. http://www.margaretroedesigns.com/extanthandkerchiefs.html Is that for both men and women? Ansel wanted a monogram F (Frobisher) in the corner. Were monograms popular at the time? I don't recall that being much of a fashion until later. Any guidance will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] muckinger construction
Well, my husband and I usually pick up hankies at garage sales and use them. However, we are middle-class working folks, so lots of lace and embroidery wouldn't be a good choice for us. I would say a square of linen, hemmed (maybe with hem-stitch?) and a bit of embroidery would be fine...lace if he wants to be pretensious or make an impression with the nobles. Remember, lace is EXPENSIVE at this time, so he would have paid a pretty penny (or pound!) for it. I'm not really sure about the monogram. I can offer, if interested, blackworking a muckinger for you/him. Contact me privately if you're interested! *** Rebecca Schmitt aka Mistress Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence at the Dirty Duck Inn Bristol Renaissance Faire My arms are too short to box with God. --Johnny Cash *** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of REBECCA BURCH Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:32 PM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] muckinger construction I have a quick question for those of you who go to the Bristol Ren Faire. Ansel was asking me to make him something called a muckinger which he saw for sale at the Faire. It was a double layer embroidered hanky. Based on his description, I am thinking that the double layer was to cover the back of machine embroidery stitching. Can anybody point me to a description of this accessory? I did a google search and didn't come up with much. None of the examples shown were double layered. The ones shown here are mostly lace trimmed. http://www.margaretroedesigns.com/extanthandkerchiefs.html Is that for both men and women? Ansel wanted a monogram F (Frobisher) in the corner. Were monograms popular at the time? I don't recall that being much of a fashion until later. Any guidance will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Movie Info
That was my impression as well. I also thought the polished leather side appeared to have some type of tooled or embossed design. Thanks for the info. Rebecca --- otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.costumersguide.com/fountain/ref2.jpg http://www.costumersguide.com/fountain/ref12.jpg Looks like two types of leather finishes. De -Original Message- However, I do have some questions regarding The Fountain. Does anybody know what the doublet Hugh Jackman's character wears is made of? We have a disagreement as to whether it was leather alternating with fabric or leather with alternating suede side/polished side. Also, the dress the Queen of Spain wears is gorgeous. Any ideas of where better photos might be avail? A google image search turned up a few but nothing really close enough to get a good look. Thanks Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Movie Info
My son was home over the break and brought some movies he thought I would find interesting - he was right. However, I do have some questions regarding The Fountain. Does anybody know what the doublet Hugh Jackman's character wears is made of? We have a disagreement as to whether it was leather alternating with fabric or leather with alternating suede side/polished side. Also, the dress the Queen of Spain wears is gorgeous. Any ideas of where better photos might be avail? A google image search turned up a few but nothing really close enough to get a good look. Thanks Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Re: Introduction
Sarah, if you are going to be at Reenactorfest, stop by the Guilde of St. Lawrence and say hi to me too! And, if you're interested in Elizabethan, well, that's what we do :) We are a guilde of middle-class citizens at the Bristol Renn Faire in Kenosha, but my husband and I live in Madison area. Where are you? *** Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence Bristol Renaissance Faire My arms are too short to box with God. --Johnny Cash *** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarah Krans Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 3:38 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: Introduction Thank you for the offer. I am actually planning on going to Reenactorfest and staying with my WWII Unit Commander (the event doubles as our annual meeting). I'll probably be running around in my late 1700s dress because I don't get to wear it all that often! I have not attended the event but have heard good things about it. Sarah Sarah, Allow me to introduce myself especially to you. I am the Chairman of Costume-Con 28, which will be in Milwaukee in 2010. I am also affiliated with the ICG Guild in Chicago. If you are not aware of it, there is a growing general event in northern Chicago in early February called Reenactor Fest. http://members.aol.com/reenactorfest/chicago.html I will be there for the weekend and, if you want to use my room for a bivouac for a day, if you come, that would be OK by me! Just don't mind my other friends who might be doing that, too. Contact me out of group if you are. Or if I can be of any other help! Henry Osier Chief Spy Costume-Con 28 in Milwaukee in 2010 www.CC28.org View the latest Intell: http://agent-milw.livejournal.com/ Questions?: http://community.livejournal.com/costume_con_28/ ___ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun
I find the best way to keep my hair anchored in the bun or twist is to use either a foam mousse or hairspray before putting it up. Otherwise, it just slides right out no matter how many pins I use. Generally I find the best method for dry hair is to bend over and hang my head down, comb the hair from the nape and lightly spray all through. Then gather it up, twisting as I go, coil it around and pin down. I use the mousse when I have just washed my hair and it is still slightly wet. My hair is currently slightly below waist length. I don't know how this would work on shorter hair, mine has never been shorter than shoulderblade length and was once almost knee length. --- Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, I had a book signing recently. In preparation, I pinned my hair up in a bun, only to have the whole mass fall out of its pins soon after arrival. Do any of you have any sure-fire suggestions as to keeping ones hair in a bun until the owner of the hair wishes to remove the pins, and not the hair itself? Thank you in advance! I do love this loop... Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Thanks for info
Thanks to all who sent sources for eating knives. I have ordered one, not the one I would really like, but it will do for the time being. I have saved all the sites for future reference. Thanks again, you guys are always the best source for info. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Source needed
Does anybody have a good source for an inexpensive eating dagger? We want to get something garb related for Ansel's stocking and a dagger would be about the right size. Thanks for any input. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] RE: OT Source needed
Not SCA, he plays Captain Sir Martin Frobisher at the Bristol Ren Faire. --- otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this in context for the Society for Creative Anachromism? Have not ordered from these folks http://www.swordsofhonor.com/ip-005-2.html De -Original Message- Does anybody have a good source for an inexpensive eating dagger? We want to get something garb related for Ansel's stocking and a dagger would be about the right size. Thanks for any input. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Frobisuit (WAS: Busy making holiday gifts?)
Exactly right!! I was running through the list in my head and didn't stop to think that most folks wouldn't know what a Frobisuit was. You can see it here - he's the one in gold/red, waving at the camera http://robynsroost.com/brf07/week7/brf046.jpg standing at the far right http://robynsroost.com/brf07/week3/brf116.jpg His current garb has been through 2 hard years of use and he lost weight over his stay in York, so now it doesn't fit well. My problem is - once again - finding fabric. I lucked into the the tropical weight wool crepe I used last time. Not having the same luck this go around. I mostly like living way out in the country, but times like this I would kill to live near a large city with good fabric stores. Wal-Mart and JoAnn's just don't cut it. Rebecca --- Chris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 23, 2007, at 10:24 AM, zelda crusher wrote: Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:23:25 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Busy making holiday gifts? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Then Ansel wants a new Frobisuit for Bristol next year A what? My guess would be that Bristol = Bristol Renaissance Faire Frobi = Sir Martin Frobisher (if I'm remembering the name right) suit = outfit Good guess? O Christian Ashley, gentlewoman to Lady Stafford + Chris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guild of St. George, Northern California http://paternosters.blogspot.com - http://paternoster-row.org ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Busy making holiday gifts?
I'm not yet to the gift sewing phase - right now I'm concentrating on getting through my youngest son's Eagle ceremony tomorrow. My folks are headed to a month in India over Christmas, so we had our big family get together this weekend and combined Thanksgiving and Eagle and a couple birthdays. A bit overkill, but given the way our family comes and goes, necessary. I will start on the gifts next week - Promise. I only have a couple things that didn't get finished last year. :-) Then Ansel wants a new Frobisuit for Bristol next year and he definitely needs a couple of new shirts and I need to finish the demi-cape. Rebecca --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear list, Since the traffic has been light, and we assume people are busy, I'll kick off with, are you busy making holiday gifts? Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] A crochet question
Back in the days when I had lots of time to experiment with natural dyes on the yarn I had time to spin (Oh for the days of no kids!!) my hubby made me a set of stretchers to keep the shrinkage to a minimum. Basically, it is no more than a couple pieces of 2x4 with dowels plugged in. Before the dye bath, I would wind the yarn across the bars in a single layer with fairly firm tension. Leave on the bars until you are done immersing in the dye bath and rinse water. Dry on the bars. By keeping it under a fair amount of tension it didn't have as much opportunity to contract. The nice part is that you can construct them to fit down in whatever size tub you have for your dye bath. We were lucky to have come across some fairly deep metal pans being discarded from the VA Hospital kitchen. Worked like a charm. Good luck. --- Lavolta Press [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Procion is not a literally cold-water dye; you need to use pretty warm water for best results. The dyeing process almost always shrinks the fibers, sometimes quite a lot. Also, the earlier in the process you dye the fibers, the more thoroughly the dye penetrates. Dyed in the fleece is better than dyed in the spun yarn, dyed in the yarn is better than dyed in the woven material, and dyed in the material is better than dyed in the made-up garment. Hence the old saying, Dyed in the wool. Ever buy a dyed-after-sewing garment, unpick the hem to take it up, and discover that it is pale, or even still white, on the inside of the old hem? And when I have dyed crocheted articles, the dye visibly penetrates better into the upper surface, than further down into the intertwinings of the yarn. Fran Lavolta Press Books on Historic Costuming http://www.lavoltapress.com Maureen Campbell wrote: If you're going to use a cold-water dye, like Procion, I don't think it makes a difference. Anything involving hot water, though, will shrink cotton, so in that case, the yarn should be dyed first, then crocheted. Yay, crochet!! :) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 1620's question
Well, Thanksgiving is coming up, and I have a question My husband and I may have the chance to do a reading of the original Thanksgiving proclamation at our church on Thanksgiving, and thought it would be fun to dress the part. However, our usual is 1570's England, so we need to update our current outfits a bit. What is the best/easiest way to revise a somewhat later Elizabethan men's doublet and paned slops to update it to 1620's? I'm thinking a falling collar and big lace cuffs; what about a hat? Would a flat cap be approproate? or a tall hat? I am planning to wear a generic kirtle and semi-fitted overgown (maybe I'll finally make some sleeves!) with a black wool partlet over the ensemble, possibly a jacket (based on Arnold) and a linen caul for my head. Would I need another head covering over the caul? Thanks for any suggestions! *** Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence Bristol Renaissance Faire My arms are too short to box with God. --Johnny Cash *** ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume