On May 3, 2007, at 3:30 PM, Robin Netherton wrote:
It occurs to me that the productions that get the most criticism on
this
list are historical drama, particularly those that purport to be
realistic
(say, "Elizabeth," which offered film-linked packets for school
history
programs as part of
On Thu, 3 May 2007, Sharon Collier wrote:
> If you film in Hampton Court Palace or an authentic mock up of it on a
> sound stage, the costumes should be stylistically the same. If the
> show is filmed with a more fantasy feel to the sets, I can accept more
> leeway in the costumes. It jars less
;.
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On May 3, 2007, at 11:09 AM, MaggiRos wrote:
> Not that this keeps us from scre
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> Theatrical costumes need to meet different demands
> than reenactment costumes,
> a
t it wasn't always fun!)
kathleen
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On May 3, 2007, at 1
On May 3, 2007, at 11:09 AM, MaggiRos wrote:
Not that this keeps us from screaming over the
costumes in something like The Tudors. The budget
demands of a show like don't explain some of the
design choices they made.
I'm willing to give "historical fantasy" more leeway than something
that cla
> Theatrical costumes need to meet different demands
> than reenactment costumes,
> and theatrical costumes often need to be made on a
> tight deadline to boot.
> Comparing the two is like comparing apples and
> oranges, and
> expecting "complete" historical accuracy of theatre
> costumes is
In a message dated 5/2/2007 6:54:45 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
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Of course, actor safety, comfort, and the ability to do quick-
changes, dance moves, sword fights, or whatever else needs to happen
in the show also often have an impact. I once draped an HMS Pina
occasion presents.
(Thank you Fran!!)
KSM
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From: "Deredere Galbraith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Well accur
At 00:54 03/05/2007, you wrote:
This reminds me of...
One thing I am sure of is that the armseye of the upper garments
will not be as high as the originals nor the bottoms as capacious
. These would grace any stage quite nicely.
Owning originals that are Not comfortable for actual modern
Well accurate or not I like the pattern.
I think I am going to make it just to sleep in.
B and C look so cute and romantic. :-)
Greetings,
Deredere
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From: "Sharon Collier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
She wrote a book, too, "Geisha", By Liza Dalby
ISBN #0-394-72893-9. Mine was published by Vintage Books, division of Random
House, in 1985.
Originally published Berkeley: University of California Press 1983
Yep, I've got that one, also the book she pub
;Carmen Beaudry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Chuckle...And I bet you didn't try to enter that one in a contest?
Except, > perhaps "And
ot;burn the bra (or whatever)generation" ...
Kathleen
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On May 2, 2007, at 8:49 PM, Melanie Schuessler wrote:
Of course, actor safety, comfort, and the ability to do quick-changes,
dance moves, sword fights, or whatever else needs to happen in the
show also often have an impact.
Out of lurkdom for a moment.
First, thanks for all the insight into
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>I didn't either. As both a historian and a costume designer, I see no
>reason to be embarrassed about the very good
Chuckle...And I bet you didn't try to enter that one in a contest?
Except, > perhaps "And how many Zippers did you manage to get in on this
one?"
Makes me think of the first time I remember the leather store on the board
walk of Provincetown !!
Kathleen
Nope, and you couldn't see the zipper
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From: "Carmen Beaudry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>I didn't go so far as to read the instructions. Alas...
Presently worki
ter.
Kathleen
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On May 2, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Carmen Beaudry wrote:
O
On May 2, 2007, at 8:45 PM, Carmen Beaudry wrote:
I didn't either. As both a historian and a costume designer, I
see no reason to be embarrassed about the very good reasons why
accuracy > is often compromised on the stage. I still groan when
I watch films with terribly bastardized fas
I didn't go so far as to read the instructions. Alas...
Presently working in miniature, I struggle nightly in trying to create my
doll costumes using all the pieces that would have made the shapes if I
were doing them for people; it is hard indeed to compromise, but I have
not yet bent to V
I didn't either. As both a historian and a costume designer, I see no
reason to be embarrassed about the very good reasons why accuracy > is
often compromised on the stage. I still groan when I watch films with
terribly bastardized fashions, but I can often tell why they did it.
Telling t
On May 2, 2007, at 6:30 PM, LLOYD MITCHELL wrote:
Note quite. Having been a costume designer for over 30 years, I long
ago learned to suit the desired look with a present aesthetic...ie.,
comfort. For the reinactor, how many of them are going to be parading
about in their undies meant for th
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Subject: Re: [h-cost] new Butterick pattern 5061
This reminds me of...
One thing I am sure of is that the armseye of the upper garments will not
be as high as the originals nor the bottoms as capacious . These would
grace any stage qu
On May 2, 2007, at 6:28 PM, Paula Praxis wrote:
F
On May 2, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Carmen Beaudry wrote:
On May 2, 2007, at 5:54 PM, LLOYD MITCHELL wrote:
This reminds me of...
One thing I am sure of is that the armseye of the upper garments
will not be as high as the originals nor the
matter loved, of all things, Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman!
Sg
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I didn't either. As both a historian and a costume designer, I see
no reason to be embarrassed about the very good reasons why accuracy
is often compromised on the stage. I still groan when I watch films
with terribly bastardized fashions, but I can often tell why they did
it. Telling th
On Wednesday 02 May 2007 8:18 pm, Sylvia Rognstad wrote:
> On May 2, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Carmen Beaudry wrote:
> >> On May 2, 2007, at 5:54 PM, LLOYD MITCHELL wrote:
[snip]
> > I sure didn't take it as such.
> >
> > Melusine (who started out in theater and still does theater costume
> > part time)
>
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On May 2, 2007, at 5:54 PM, LLOYD MITCHELL wrote:
This reminds me of...
One thing I am sure of is t
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On May 2, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Carmen Beaudry wrote:
On May 2, 2007, at 5:54 PM, LLOYD MITCHELL wrote:
This reminds me of...
One thing I am sure of is that the armseye of the upper garments
will not be as high as the originals nor the bottoms as capacious .
These would grace any stage qui
On May 2, 2007, at 5:54 PM, LLOYD MITCHELL wrote:
This reminds me of...
One thing I am sure of is that the armseye of the upper garments will not
be as high as the originals nor the bottoms as capacious . These would
grace any stage quite nicely.
That sounds like a veiled insult to the
This reminds me of...
One thing I am sure of is that the armseye of the upper garments will not
be as high as the originals nor the bottoms as capacious . These would
grace any stage quite nicely. Owning originals that are Not comfortable
for actual modern wear, in a 'Costume"situation
On May 2, 2007, at 5:54 PM, LLOYD MITCHELL wrote:
This reminds me of...
One thing I am sure of is that the armseye of the upper garments will
not be as high as the originals nor the bottoms as capacious . These
would grace any stage quite nicely.
That sounds like a veiled insult to th
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;situation, these would do quite nicely if done in the usual muslin
of their counterparts.
Kathleen
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Can anybody tell me, roughly, what year this pattern might represent?
http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi
On Wednesday 02 May 2007 11:38 am, Dawn wrote:
> Can anybody tell me, roughly, what year this pattern might represent?
>
> http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/butterick/shop.cgi?s.item.B5061=x&TI=1
>0001&page=4
>
> Is that Victorian? 20th century? Something else? I kind of like the
> nightgown.
I
I am not 100% sure but I believe this to be Late Edwardian, probably around
the 1910s or 20s.
There is a very slim chance of it being Regency but I have my doubts.
De
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I think they mean it to be pseudo Victorian or Edwardian, but it is not.
Cindy Abel
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NOT Victorian or Edwardian.
Kim
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Can anybody tell me, roughly, what year this pattern might re
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