[h-cost] The Red Dutch coat Was: Dutch 1660s fur jacket

2006-03-27 Thread WickedFrau
I like the furry one, but also love the red (wool?) one? Reminds me, from the front, of Breughel type jackets, except with a placket. Do you have a picture of it without the 'kerchief? (also, if you could point me to a painting?) Thanks, Sg Glad to see you back!

Re: [h-cost] smell of spiral steel boning

2006-03-27 Thread WickedFrau
I agree, I keep mine in a round tin. It must have enough airflow that I do not get this smell. I have recently been amazed at what a good airing will do for costumes. I have been working in a very smoky environment, and a few days airing has pretty much done the trick...more tenacious

Re: [h-cost] Another Pregnant Elizabethan

2006-03-27 Thread WickedFrau
Very nice! Thank you. I'd never seen that one! Susan B. Farmer wrote: Found another one http://www.weissgallery.com/detail.asp?id=26category=current ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com

Re: [h-cost] Corset cutting suggestion

2006-03-27 Thread WickedFrau
I'd stay away from anything modern for any period corset. You just won't get the shape you want. As a starting place, look at Drea's well used corset generator. http://costume.dm.net/custompat/If you are new to this style, look carefully at the shapes in paintings for comparisons to later

[h-cost] Regency Help!

2006-03-27 Thread wendirae
Hello! I am not really familiar with the Regency era; however I really liked the dress that Jayne (Rosamund Pike) wore in the opening scene of the latest version of Pride Prejudice (with Keira Knightly) – she wears the same style dress a different points throughout the movie, one in pink and

Re: [h-cost] Sourcing bizarre fabric..

2006-03-27 Thread WickedFrau
Katherine, have you tried any of the fabric finder, or fabric sourcing sites? I have had particular luck with this group http://www.fabrics.net/swatch/ , but also just happened to google on this site-I hadn't asked for green leaves, but look what came up!

Re: [h-cost] Regency Help!

2006-03-27 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 16:05 27/03/2006, you wrote: Hello! I am not really familiar with the Regency era; however I really liked the dress that Jayne (Rosamund Pike) wore in the opening scene of the latest version of Pride Prejudice (with Keira Knightly) ­ she wears the same style dress a different points

Re: [h-cost] Elizabethan doublets, hooks and eyes at waist

2006-03-27 Thread WickedFrau
Wish I could remember where I read this, but there was a discourse by someone (Samuel Pepy's perhaps?) on how, the tailors were in some kind of conspiracy (tongue in cheek) of switching from points to hook and eyes which didn't free men up from having to have some one dress them. Sg

Re: [h-cost] Regency Help!

2006-03-27 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi Suzi, The pattern for this gown is in Norah Waughs Cut of Womens Clothes diagram XXXIV Open Gown c. 1795. I made it many years ago from a mix of silk and wool in a petrol blue trimmed with grey ribbons. Inside the gown i had made a chemise de la reinne, or you could also use a petticoat and

Re: [h-cost] Regency Help!

2006-03-27 Thread Hope Greenberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not really familiar with the Regency era; however I really liked the dress that Jayne (Rosamund Pike) wore in the opening scene of the latest version of Pride Prejudice (with Keira Knightly) – she wears the same style dress a different points throughout the

Re: [h-cost] Regency Help!

2006-03-27 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 3/27/2006 11:06:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here are several variations, all from the late 1790s: Which makes me wonder if it was considered woefully old fashion by...oh...say 1806.

Re: [h-cost] Regency Help!

2006-03-27 Thread AnnBWass
In a message dated 3/27/2006 10:44:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The pattern for this gown is in Norah Waughs Cut of Womens Clothes diagram XXXIV Open Gown c. 1795. Yes, and please note that, strictly speaking, this is not Regency period. We already

[h-cost] talk about tight lacing

2006-03-27 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hey, What do you say, a 15 inch waist: http://www.aftonbladet.se/atv/player.html?catID=10clipID=7149 I dont like it, its two bizarre. Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing

Re: [h-cost] talk about tight lacing

2006-03-27 Thread Kristin
I've seen that before when looking up information on corsets. It's definitely along the lines of fetish. I have to agree with you that it is too bizarre. I don't like it either, as it's too out of proportion. Kristin On 3/27/06, Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, What do

Re: [h-cost] talk about tight lacing

2006-03-27 Thread Chiara Francesca Arianna d'Onofrio
I concurr, way too bizarre. I looked into corseting but found rather quickly that there are no groups out there for those just wanting to know how to do it properly without all the fetish and what not connected to it. I just wanted the facts and got yelled at when I opposed one view. Way too

Re: [h-cost] talk about tight lacing

2006-03-27 Thread E House
- Original Message - From: Chiara Francesca Arianna d'Onofrio [EMAIL PROTECTED] I concurr, way too bizarre. I looked into corseting but found rather quickly that there are no groups out there for those just wanting to know how to do it properly without all the fetish and what not

Re: [h-cost] talk about tight lacing

2006-03-27 Thread WickedFrau
Dang! How'd I miss this?! I'll be signing up. I can only imagine what you all a have been talking about since 1991! Sg E House wrote: Yes, there is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Historical_Corsets/ I'm the list owner, and there's no fetish stuff allowed! -E House

Re: [h-cost] talk about tight lacing

2006-03-27 Thread Chiara Francesca Arianna d'Onofrio
Very cool! I will check it out when I get home tonight. :) Chiara On Mon, March 27, 2006 1:04 pm, E House said: - Original Message - From: Chiara Francesca Arianna d'Onofrio [EMAIL PROTECTED] I concurr, way too bizarre. I looked into corseting but found rather quickly that there

RE: [h-cost] The Red Dutch coat Was: Dutch 1660s fur jacket

2006-03-27 Thread Nicole Kipar
Uhm, SG, that isn't a coat nor jacket, is the reproduction (made by Harriet Waterhouse) of the 1660s pink silk stays with sleeves in the VA. :-D Nicole (steeped in Tudor and kind of lost) If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. From: WickedFrau [EMAIL

Re: [h-cost] talk about tight lacing

2006-03-27 Thread Katy Bishop
I saw her in person at a dance once, it was grotesque. Like a train wreck, you looked but had to turn away but had to look again to make sure you didn't imagine it. She looked as if she would break in two. Her face did not look like one of a happy or healthy person. Katy On 3/27/06, Bjarne

Re: [h-cost] Corset cutting suggestion

2006-03-27 Thread Suzi Clarke
I'd stay away from anything modern for any period corset. You just won't get the shape you want. As a starting place, look at Drea's well used corset generator. http://costume.dm.net/custompat/ If you are new to this style, look carefully at the shapes in paintings for comparisons to

Re: [h-cost] Regency Help!

2006-03-27 Thread AnnBWass
In a message dated 3/27/2006 4:12:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and an Italian version in glazed linen I believe that is INDIAN fabric, made up in England. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com

Re: [h-cost] talk about tight lacing

2006-03-27 Thread Dawn
Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: Hey, What do you say, a 15 inch waist: http://www.aftonbladet.se/atv/player.html?catID=10clipID=7149 I dont like it, its two bizarre. I don't think I'm getting the same link as everyone else. I'm looking at Danish (?) news clips... news, sports, movie reviews,

[h-cost] OT: other costuming groups

2006-03-27 Thread E House
Well, since we've had a ton of new members on the historical corsets group from this list in just the past few hours, I thought I'd quickly mention three of my other groups that might be of interest to the list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Real_Regency/ Regency fashions, lifestyle,

Re: [h-cost] Regency Help!

2006-03-27 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi Janet, Thanks for that, its very interresting that she calls this a greatcoat, wished i could ask her why? Bjarne - Original Message - From: JAMES OGILVIE [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost]

[h-cost] re: talk about tight lacing - historic corset info

2006-03-27 Thread katherine sanders
Hello Chiara I looked into corseting but found rather quickly that there are no groups out there for those just wanting to know how to do it properly without all the fetish and what not connected to it. Chiara may I suggest you check out the yahoo 'historic corset' group? There are a few

[h-cost] new McCall's bonnet pattern

2006-03-27 Thread Elizabeth Walpole
while I was looking for high waisted bodices with darts, (as I'm running a class on removing the darts from commercial patterns for early 16th century Italian clothing) I found this new pattern http://www.mccallpattern.com/item/M5129.htm?tab=costumespage=1 for couple of variations on the theme

Re: [h-cost] talk about tight lacing

2006-03-27 Thread Dianne Greg Stucki
- Original Message - From: Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 1:31 PM Subject: [h-cost] talk about tight lacing Hey, What do you say, a 15 inch waist: http://www.aftonbladet.se/atv/player.html?catID=10clipID=7149 I dont like

RE: [h-cost] talk about tight lacing

2006-03-27 Thread Anne Moeller
I agree, this is gross. I don't like to comment on other people's figure failings either but something this bizarre invites comment. I am sure she must be used to stares and questions. The press did do a piece on her, after all. Anne -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by

RE: [h-cost] talk about tight lacing

2006-03-27 Thread Sharon at Collierfam.com
Also looks too painful! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjarne og Leif Drews Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 10:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] talk about tight lacing Hey, What do you say, a 15 inch waist:

RE: [h-cost] OT: other costuming groups

2006-03-27 Thread Sharon at Collierfam.com
Thank you! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E House Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 1:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] OT: other costuming groups Well, since we've had a ton of new members on the historical corsets group from

Re: [h-cost] Corset cutting suggestion

2006-03-27 Thread AlbertCat
I'm getting tired of the number of times I've needed to alter the corset pattern I'm currently working on (the 1844 corset in Corsets and Crinolines, the bust is way too big I'm on my third round of alterations to reduce it) Lookyou probably just need to

[h-cost] dye surprises

2006-03-27 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi, I am in the middle of dying silk chenille threads for the tangled garden jacket. I made all the reds yesterday, and they came out nice. http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/jacket.html Today i just dyed the greens. I could only find 3 greens, spring green, emerald green and olive green. So i

RE: [h-cost] Regency Help!

2006-03-27 Thread Abel, Cynthia
An excellent source for the early 1790's fashions is Heideloff's Gallery of Fashion published circa 1793-1802. From 1793-1800 is available on microfilm as part of the History of Women Card Catalog. Many universities hold this. There are some websites that have some of the plates, some in the

Re: [h-cost] talk about tight lacing

2006-03-27 Thread Debloughcostumes
youch!! prolapses here they come. ick - have a book that shows all the yucky stuff that can happen as a result of too tight lacing, and it's truly disgusting. debs ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com

[h-cost] Spanish California Women's Costume

2006-03-27 Thread Rachel Watcher
I am interested in finding information on Women's fashion from 1840 to 1850 Ranchero life prior to the Gold Rush in 49. Particularly the dress that would be worn for fandangos for married women. Anyone got info or urls? Thanks Rachael ___ h-costume