Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-27 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 12:40 AM 27/08/2006, Scott Sipe wrote: That and our legacy macros are the reason we use WP over Word. Reveal codes (ALT+F3 is it? :-P) is a truly great feature. I just wish the rest of the software didn't have so many issues. Yeah, Alt-F3. Not sure why Word doesn't implement something like

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-27 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 01:09 AM 27/08/2006, Winterlight wrote: At 08:40 PM 8/26/2006, you wrote: On Aug 26, 2006, at 6:13 PM, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 02:30 PM 26/08/2006, Scott Sipe wrote: I have to say that WordPerfect is an absolute POS. You think MS is WordPerfect and reveal codes blows the doors off

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-27 Thread Harry McGregor
dhs wrote: Thane, Richard, Chris, Greg, Anthony, Harry, et. al. Thanks for all your discussion. Yes, confirmed "flash drive" with nephew. It appears that the current W98SE is not dealing with the current flash drive. I suspect that this machines OS has not been kept up to date

RE: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-26 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 04:15 PM 25/08/2006, Christopher Klein wrote: I haven't used Open office that much but are the commands and formulas the exact same in open office? Vlookup and everything else is exactly the same? Pretty much. And if I'm hiring a person to do spreadsheets and he can't learn a new syntax

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-26 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 01:04 AM 26/08/2006, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: do you people really think that universities choose software just for student use? One would assume that's at least one of the criteria. The best tool for the job is the one I'd go with. But free and open would have to be pretty important.

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-26 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 02:30 PM 26/08/2006, Scott Sipe wrote: I have to say that WordPerfect is an absolute POS. You think MS is WordPerfect and reveal codes blows the doors off every other word processor. Haven't had to deal with security issues since I'm the only person on the planet who uses it. :) T

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-26 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 07:58 AM 26/08/2006, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: One would assume that's at least one of the criteria. The best tool for the job is the one I'd go with. But free and open would have to be pretty important. There's a local university here that for years standardized on MS Office because MS

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-26 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 08:03 AM 26/08/2006, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Once again, you don't know what you're talking about. You're so blinded by your hate of MS that you can't get passed it. Your problem, not mine. Once again, you prove it's impossible to have a discussion with you without it turning nasty

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-26 Thread Sam Franc
Thane Sherrington wrote: o? That's why you hate MS, right? Hate MS? No, I love MS. Without them, I'd have to find other employment. Please don't put words in my mouth. T I have been following this thread with interest. I don't hate M$. I just think they are overblown and are in it

RE: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-26 Thread Chris Reeves
- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Johnson Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 8:04 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] machine update plans At 03:15 PM 8/25/2006, Christopher Klein typed: However, learning Access in an MIS/CIS program is quite important. Not all corporations run SQL

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-26 Thread Scott Sipe
On Aug 26, 2006, at 1:53 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote: On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 03:15:43PM -0400, Christopher Klein wrote: There was no slam on Harry at all Thane. It's not just simply learning simple tasks. Sure anyone can learn how to type a paragraph in word. However, learning Access in an

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-26 Thread Scott Sipe
On Aug 26, 2006, at 6:13 PM, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 02:30 PM 26/08/2006, Scott Sipe wrote: I have to say that WordPerfect is an absolute POS. You think MS is WordPerfect and reveal codes blows the doors off every other word processor. Haven't had to deal with security issues since

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-26 Thread Scott Sipe
On Aug 26, 2006, at 9:15 PM, Chris Reeves wrote: I have clients who use all sorts of DB technologies. I actually have respect for the fluid nature of FileMaker Pro, I always loved DBIV, I -love- Alpha Five v. 7, and really.. Microsoft has one of the best DB tools out there in Visual

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-26 Thread Winterlight
At 08:40 PM 8/26/2006, you wrote: On Aug 26, 2006, at 6:13 PM, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 02:30 PM 26/08/2006, Scott Sipe wrote: I have to say that WordPerfect is an absolute POS. You think MS is WordPerfect and reveal codes blows the doors off every other word processor. Word 2003 has

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-26 Thread Scott Sipe
On Aug 27, 2006, at 12:09 AM, Winterlight wrote: At 08:40 PM 8/26/2006, you wrote: On Aug 26, 2006, at 6:13 PM, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 02:30 PM 26/08/2006, Scott Sipe wrote: I have to say that WordPerfect is an absolute POS. You think MS is WordPerfect and reveal codes blows the

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-25 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 08:19 PM 24/08/2006, dhs wrote: Sis calls and says oldest son needs a jump drive for college course work. What is a jump drive? USB flash drive. I know the old 20GB eide hd (and Win98se) has to go. I am suggesting 100GB+. If money is tight, I can't see why you couldn't keep the 20GB

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-25 Thread Greg Sevart
If the University isn't using Open Office already, then it's time they start (or look at another, more forward thinking, university.) Most of the universities around here are standardizing on Open Office (and I'm in Canada, which is about five years behind the US.) Are you seriously

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-25 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Greg Sevart wrote: If the University isn't using Open Office already, then it's time they start (or look at another, more forward thinking, university.) Most of the universities around here are standardizing on Open Office (and I'm in Canada, which is about five years behind the US.)

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-25 Thread Harry McGregor
Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Greg Sevart wrote: If the University isn't using Open Office already, then it's time they start (or look at another, more forward thinking, university.) Most of the universities around here are standardizing on Open Office (and I'm in Canada, which is about five

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-25 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 09:33 AM 25/08/2006, Greg Sevart wrote: If the University isn't using Open Office already, then it's time they start (or look at another, more forward thinking, university.) Most of the universities around here are standardizing on Open Office (and I'm in Canada, which is about five

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-25 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 01:02 PM 25/08/2006, Harry McGregor wrote: Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Greg Sevart wrote: If the University isn't using Open Office already, then it's time they start (or look at another, more forward thinking, university.) Most of the universities around here are standardizing on Open

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-25 Thread Winterlight
Not at all. I'm saying that if a university forces you to use MS Office Pro, walk away. That sort of thinking shows serious blinders in the unversity's thinking. You should be able to write papers using copy con on an XT for all they care. T and which university was your alma mater?

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-25 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Thane Sherrington wrote: At 09:33 AM 25/08/2006, Greg Sevart wrote: If the University isn't using Open Office already, then it's time they start (or look at another, more forward thinking, university.) Most of the universities around here are standardizing on Open Office (and I'm in

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-25 Thread Greg Sevart
At 09:33 AM 25/08/2006, Greg Sevart wrote: If the University isn't using Open Office already, then it's time they start (or look at another, more forward thinking, university.) Most of the universities around here are standardizing on Open Office (and I'm in Canada, which is about five years

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-25 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 02:04 PM 25/08/2006, Winterlight wrote: Not at all. I'm saying that if a university forces you to use MS Office Pro, walk away. That sort of thinking shows serious blinders in the unversity's thinking. You should be able to write papers using copy con on an XT for all they care. T

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-25 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 02:09 PM 25/08/2006, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: That's not at all what you said, Thane. You said simply that if they aren't already using open office they aren't forward thinking and one should consider another school. That's really silly. No university forces any one (other than employees

RE: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-25 Thread Christopher Klein
McGregor Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:02 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] machine update plans Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Greg Sevart wrote: If the University isn't using Open Office already, then it's time they start (or look at another, more forward thinking, university

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-25 Thread Harry McGregor
. Harry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Harry McGregor Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:02 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] machine update plans Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Greg Sevart wrote

RE: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-25 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 03:47 PM 25/08/2006, Christopher Klein wrote: entering the corporate world or most areas of IT need to learn MS office. Not open office...but the actual MS office. MS office is used by the You raise a good point. But I would suggest that university should be teaching you how to think,

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-25 Thread tmservo
ready to take EasyOffice ClarisWorks Pro or whatever :) Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless -Original Message- From: Christopher Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:47:32 To:'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] machine update plans Harry

RE: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-25 Thread Christopher Klein
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:01 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] machine update plans At 03:47 PM 25/08/2006, Christopher Klein wrote: entering the corporate world or most areas of IT need to learn MS office

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-25 Thread tmservo
2006 15:14:08 To:The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] machine update plans At 03:02 PM 8/25/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Here's the other cold reality. Office xp and up, which many universities require has document tracking. This allows a prof to see how many times

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-25 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Thane Sherrington wrote: At 02:09 PM 25/08/2006, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: That's not at all what you said, Thane. You said simply that if they aren't already using open office they aren't forward thinking and one should consider another school. That's really silly. No university forces

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-25 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Thane Sherrington wrote: At 03:47 PM 25/08/2006, Christopher Klein wrote: entering the corporate world or most areas of IT need to learn MS office. Not open office...but the actual MS office. MS office is used by the You raise a good point. But I would suggest that university should be

Re: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-25 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the other cold reality. Office xp and up, which many universities require has document tracking. This allows a prof to see how many times a document was revised, how many pcs opened the document A great number of profs view this as very important because it

[H] machine update plans

2006-08-24 Thread dhs
Sis calls and says oldest son needs a jump drive for college course work. What is a jump drive? In any case, the talk then moves on to whether to buy a new pooter or upgrade the current machine. It is an AMD 1000M TBird on an Abit KG7-lite mb. Not certain about the ram but think it is

RE: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-24 Thread Chris Reeves
really the software that kicks you in the ass. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dhs Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 11:19 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] machine update plans Sis calls and says oldest son

RE: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-24 Thread Richard Kim
@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] machine update plans Sis calls and says oldest son needs a jump drive for college course work. What is a jump drive? In any case, the talk then moves on to whether to buy a new pooter or upgrade the current machine. It is an AMD 1000M TBird on an Abit KG7-lite mb

RE: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-24 Thread Richard Kim
Reeves Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 11:35 PM To: 'The Hardware List' Subject: RE: [H] machine update plans Woof. OK, how tight is really tight? If I were him, I would look at doing this: Get a 761GX Motherboard, ($50) a 2800+ Processor AM2 ($52) 512MB ($34) change the HDD say an 80G ($46

RE: [H] machine update plans

2006-08-24 Thread Chris Reeves
' Subject: RE: [H] machine update plans Well, I know some colleges require XP Pro. I know in Wesleyan, Pro is needed to connect to the network. Luckily, they sell the upgrade at the school bookstore. :| Check with school before you purchase. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL