Exactly, it's not like the Hackage people are doing extensive
background checks of everyone, they just want something consistent.
You guys don't _really_ think my name is Joe Fredette, right?
I'm actually Batman.
/Joe
On Apr 4, 2010, at 7:58 PM, Jesper Louis Andersen wrote:
On Mon, Apr 5,
Hi all,
After two weeks work, i have finish update Gtk2hs APIs to Gtk+2.18.3!
Gdk and Pango APIs have update to newest version.
Please report any problem to gtk2hs mail-list, we can fix it as soon as we can.
Below is libraries that gtk2hs support:
- libraries list start
David House wrote:
An issue came up on #haskell recently with Hackage accounts requiring
real names. The person in question (who didn't send this email as he's
wishing to remain anonymous) applied for a Hackage account and was
turned down, as he refused to offer his real name for the username.
Joe Fredette jfred...@gmail.com writes:
You guys don't _really_ think my name is Joe Fredette, right?
I'm actually Batman.
Batman, Joe, whatever your name is...
I notice that the HWN has turned into the Haskell
Whenever-I-can-be-bothered-getting-around-to-it News... _
--
Ivan Lazar
Am 01.04.10 20:53, Greg Fitzgerald wrote:
After 5 years of RD, I’m proud to announce the spec2code compiler.
With spec2code, developers no longer need to acknowledge the mundane
details of programming, such as memory allocation, bounds-checking,
byte ordering, inheritance models or performance
Max Bolingbroke wrote:
Heinrich Apfelmus wrote:
As I understand it, GHC implements the technique from Sparud's paper, so
this is a solved problem.
This is not my understanding. As far as I know, the STG machine has a
special notion of selector thunks, which represent projections from
Jason Dusek wrote:
2010/04/03 Casey Hawthorne cas...@istar.ca:
Apparently, Erlang does not have a static type system, since with hot
code loading, this is intrinsically difficult.
It is doubtless hard to statically check a program that is
not statically available :)
Well, so long as you
.On 5 April 2010 03:57, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com wrote:
I can understand wishing to be anonymous in these kinds of situations,
but in terms of submitting open source software? Unless their employer
is worried about them releasing proprietary software on Hackage, I don't
Thanks for your replies.
In particular to Jon for the reference to the Haskell 98 standard and the
comment about language design.
If anyone has further references to Haskell 98 or Erlang, I'm still
interested.
Regarding cost, I do see the difference in factors (Integer - Int, and
computable
Goodbye HaskellTorrent, hello Combinatorrent!
Due to the internationally acclaimed Boing!'er Shae Erisson, HaskellTorrent has
been renamed into Combinatorrent. We thus present Combinatorrent v0.2, Easter
eggs release. This release marks yet another milestone in getting a decent
bittorrent client
On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 10:28:26PM +0100, David House wrote:
An issue came up on #haskell recently with Hackage accounts requiring
real names. The person in question (who didn't send this email as he's
wishing to remain anonymous) applied for a Hackage account and was
turned down, as he
On 5 April 2010 12:52, Ross Paterson r...@soi.city.ac.uk wrote:
Basically http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/RealNameUserAdvantages, especially
simplicity, trust and recognizability.
Allow me to respond to some of these points. I find none of them
particularly convincing, especially not when compared
+1 for lifting this restriction.
On 4/4/10 23:28, David House wrote:
An issue came up on #haskell recently with Hackage accounts requiring
real names.
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Unfortunately, Ivan, it's not so much the Whenever-I-can-be-bothered
and more the Joe-had-4-finals-in-2-weeks-and-3-papers-to-write. HWN
should be back shortly.
Come Summertime, I suspect all of these delays will stop, but with a 7
class semester, something's gotta give.
/Joe
On Apr 5,
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 5:28 PM, David House dmho...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
An issue came up on #haskell recently with Hackage accounts requiring
real names. The person in question (who didn't send this email as he's
wishing to remain anonymous) applied for a Hackage account and was
turned
Maybe some can help him with this.
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Joe Fredette jfred...@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately, Ivan, it's not so much the Whenever-I-can-be-bothered and
more the Joe-had-4-finals-in-2-weeks-and-3-papers-to-write. HWN should be
back shortly.
Come Summertime, I
Joe Fredette jfred...@gmail.com writes:
Unfortunately, Ivan, it's not so much the Whenever-I-can-be-bothered
and more the Joe-had-4-finals-in-2-weeks-and-3-papers-to-write. HWN
should be back shortly.
Hang on, I thought your name was Batman, not Joe...
--
Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
Something I've noticed is the phenomenon of Help Vampires [1] on this list.
Amy Hoy: As soon as an open source project, language, or what-
have-you achieves a certain notoriety—its half-life, if you will—
they swarm in, seemingly draining the very life out of the
community itself.
She
Thats what I _want_ you to think. :)
On Apr 5, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic wrote:
Joe Fredette jfred...@gmail.com writes:
Unfortunately, Ivan, it's not so much the Whenever-I-can-be-bothered
and more the Joe-had-4-finals-in-2-weeks-and-3-papers-to-write. HWN
should be back
Anyone?
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn rpglove...@gmail.comwrote:
$ ghc-pkg check
outputs nothing
$ ghc-pkg list unix
/var/lib/ghc-6.12.1/package.conf.d
unix-2.4.0.0
/home/alex/.ghc/x86_64-linux-6.12.1/package.conf.d
unix appears to be in the build-depends of the
Am Montag 05 April 2010 17:19:35 schrieb Alex Rozenshteyn:
Anyone?
base isn't listed among the build-depends of the executable, so the
obvious thing is to add base to the build-depends and see what happens then
(might also be necessary for some other packages).
I'm not sure whether iterating
I did try that; after adding a bunch of packages to the .cabal file and
trying to build i get this:
[ 1 of 81] Compiling Plugin.Dict.DictLookup ( Plugin/Dict/DictLookup.hs,
dist/build/lambdabot/lambdabot-tmp/Plugin/Dict/DictLookup.o )
Plugin/Dict/DictLookup.hs:33:4:
Ambiguous type variable
Am Montag 05 April 2010 17:39:29 schrieb Alex Rozenshteyn:
I did try that; after adding a bunch of packages to the .cabal file and
trying to build i get this:
[ 1 of 81] Compiling Plugin.Dict.DictLookup ( Plugin/Dict/DictLookup.hs,
dist/build/lambdabot/lambdabot-tmp/Plugin/Dict/DictLookup.o )
In addition, the concept is rather silly, as one can just take a
pseudonym without any of us knowing:
When I registered I was prompted to verify my identity by means of my
university email (as opposed to my gmail account), which would
complicate using a pseudonym.
This being said, I have no
Well,
Is the real name uniq enough?
I mean if I google for Marc Weber many Haskell related posts show up.
So yes, this is me - but there are also many false hits.
So I for my part do no longer trust google results if I want to judge a
person. It gives some hints - you can verify by asking the
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Kim-Ee Yeoh a.biurvo...@asuhan.com wrote:
Something I've noticed is the phenomenon of Help Vampires [1] on this list.
Amy Hoy: As soon as an open source project, language, or what-
have-you achieves a certain notoriety—its half-life, if you will—
they swarm
I don't like using my real name on line unless I am 100% sure that I want my
statements recorded for all time and available to anyone. Using a pseudonym
allows me to be more honest in my opinions and it allows me to join groups
without wondering how my membership in that group will be viewed
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:59:50 +0100
David == David House dmho...@gmail.com wrote:
David Moreover it makes things more difficult for everyone else. If
David someone uses their pseudonym on IRC, on the wiki, on the mailing
David lists, on their website and so on and so forth, that's how I
David
Hello haskellers (men and women)!
I had an idea about a graphical debugger for Haskell but it has proven
to be not really so much useful. However, I was directed into trying
to implement a backtrace-printing debugger as it is known that the
community will benefit from it. With this idea in mind,
For those interested,
http://chrisdone.com/posts/2010-04-05-haskell-json-service-tryhaskell.html
I've updated the Haskell JSON service I whipped up a month ago and
made it much simpler, written some sample code for how to include this
in your blog or tutorials. It supports the JSONP way of
Cocoa is probably the best GUI toolkit (open-source or otherwise) that
I've seen. However it ties your app to the Mac (and the iPhone). And I
don't believe there is a mature Haskell bridge.
Cross-platform GUI's like GTK don't look as nice but functions pretty
well for what they do. Unfortunately
2010/4/5 Jonas Almström Duregård jonas.dureg...@gmail.com:
This being said, I have no problem with this restriction. In fact,
trying to determine the origin of code before agreeing to distribute
it sounds like sound procedure.
How so? What does knowing the real name of some code's author tell
I'm building a desktop application using Haskell for the logic and Qt/C++
for the GUI
(the haskell source is foreign-exported into a shared library).
It's been hard to pull off, but it works quite well when you get past the
compilation issues.
Question to the Mac users on the list: do you find
Don Stewart wrote:
I think we don't see as much metaprogramming because of other language
features -- laziness, operator syntax, and type classes -- make a bunch
of common designs work without needing metaprogramming.
While true, there are also 2 other reasons for meta-programmers are not
Hi all,
For the past couple of weeks I've been trying to understand
tying-the-knot style programming in Haskell.
A couple of days ago, Heinrich Apfelmus posted the following 'break'
function as part of an unrelated thread:
break [] = ([],[])
break (x:xs) = if x == '\n' then ([],xs) else
As the maintainer of random-fu, I'd be interested to know whether you
find it useful after further inspection. It does, in fact, support
using /dev/random as its entropy source. I don't know what exact sort
of things you're wanting to do, but very basic usage (random Int in IO
from
2010/04/05 Casey McCann syntaxgli...@gmail.com:
Not to mention that pseudonymity is overwhelmingly the norm on the
internet.
I suppose this is the collision of two cultures. Lambda the
Ultimate also encourages (but does not require) real names. I
think this has to do with academic values,
On 5 April 2010 23:52, Jason Dusek jason.du...@gmail.com wrote:
There certainly is a significant subculture of anonymity on
the internet but maybe it has spread beyond its useful limits?
There are places where it is helpful (Allberry's examples
above come to mind) but I don't think
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Jacques Carette care...@mcmaster.cawrote:
Don Stewart wrote:
I think we don't see as much metaprogramming because of other language
features -- laziness, operator syntax, and type classes -- make a bunch
of common designs work without needing metaprogramming.
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:00 PM, David House dmho...@gmail.com wrote:
You're coming at this from the wrong angle. Rather than saying, why
should we allow pseudonyms? we should ask why are we restricting the
freedom of users that just wish to contribute code?
Exactly. I don't understand the
David House dmho...@gmail.com writes:
If I'm honest, I'm really surprised so many people have replied in
favour of the restriction. I've stated an explicit way in which it's
hurting the community, and the only person to say anything in the
policy's defence other that well, why not? has been
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Jason Dagit da...@codersbase.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Jacques Carette care...@mcmaster.ca
wrote:
2. people who care about types use a typed meta-language (like metaocaml)
instead of an untyped template layer atop a (fantastic!) typed language.
Jason Dagit wrote:
While true, there are also 2 other reasons for meta-programmers
are not all over Haskell:
1. efficiency nuts are already using C++ templates and don't see
why they would switch,
2. people who care about types use a typed meta-language (like
Casey McCann wrote:
Not to speak for Jacques,
:-)
and then you followed that up with a post with which I fully agree.
Jacques
but my impression is that while TH itself is
typed--it's just more Haskell after all--it doesn't do much to prevent
you from generating code that is not well-typed.
This discussion makes me ponder whether someone like _why the lucky
stiff would ever contribute Haskell packages, hehe. I can count on two
hands people I know in various programming communities who have
identity issues but are prolific creators. Are we missing out?
Probably. But at least there is
On 6 April 2010 10:48, Christopher Done chrisd...@googlemail.com wrote:
This discussion makes me ponder whether someone like _why the lucky
stiff would ever contribute Haskell packages, hehe.
I think we can do without someone who hides behind anonymity and then
suddenly decides to go and delete
Hi all,
I've never found an easy way to deal with ByteStrings.
I'm using the RSA library and it en- and decodes
Data.ByteString.Lazy.ByteString.
I initially start with Strings, ie. [Char], but there is no function to
convert the 2 back and forth. There is however a function which takes
2010/4/6 Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de:
I initially start with Strings, ie. [Char], but there is no function to
convert the 2 back and forth. There is however a function which takes
[Word8] to BytesString and back.
The problem is one of encoding. If you use the Char8 Bytestring
variants,
Look in Data.ByteString.Char8
Cheers,
Greg
On Apr 5, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Günther Schmidt wrote:
Hi all,
I've never found an easy way to deal with ByteStrings.
I'm using the RSA library and it en- and decodes
Data.ByteString.Lazy.ByteString.
I initially start with Strings, ie. [Char],
How would enforcing a 'real names' policy affect a contributor like
_why (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_the_lucky_stiff)? I assume they
would not join the community.
I get the feeling that this discussion is somehow linked to haskell's
type-system, but have no idea why...
gue.schmidt:
Hi all,
I've never found an easy way to deal with ByteStrings.
I'm using the RSA library and it en- and decodes
Data.ByteString.Lazy.ByteString.
I initially start with Strings, ie. [Char], but there is no function to
convert the 2 back and forth. There is however a
On 6 April 2010 01:52, Ivan Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6 April 2010 10:48, Christopher Done chrisd...@googlemail.com wrote:
This discussion makes me ponder whether someone like _why the lucky
stiff would ever contribute Haskell packages, hehe.
I think we can do without
I hardly think you can say that _why had a negative impact on the ruby
community...
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Christopher Done
chrisd...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 6 April 2010 01:52, Ivan Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6 April 2010 10:48, Christopher Done
Gwern Branwen gwern0 at gmail.com writes:
It must've been put in place in the past year or two; I've never made
any bones about using a pseudonym, and I had no trouble getting a
Hackage account back when it was starting up.
It may have helped that you appear to be using a pseudonym somewhat
David House dmho...@gmail.com wrote:
* Reputation. Using a RealName is the most credible way to build a
combined online and RealLife identity. (Some people don't want this,
for whatever reasons.)
I agree that the restriction should be lifted. A lot of very smart
people do not want their real
On 4/2/10 5:28 AM, Thomas Schilling wrote:
How about something more colourful?
http://i.imgur.com/7jCPq.png
No-one replied to this, but I like it. You sacrificed some information density for a simple, engaging, low-stress page
(which can still rotate in new content frequently). Anything
On 6 April 2010 13:24, Simon Michael si...@joyful.com wrote:
On 4/2/10 5:28 AM, Thomas Schilling wrote:
How about something more colourful?
http://i.imgur.com/7jCPq.png
No-one replied to this, but I like it. You sacrificed some information
density for a simple, engaging, low-stress page
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Ertugrul Soeylemez e...@ertes.de wrote:
David House dmho...@gmail.com wrote:
* Reputation. Using a RealName is the most credible way to build a
combined online and RealLife identity. (Some people don't want this,
for whatever reasons.)
I agree that the
Well, one of my most important questions has been indirectly answered. It
seems like Map is still the main point of interest, and Jamie Brandon's list
of remaining
objectiveshttp://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2009-March/058270.html
include
modifying the API to work with the edison or
Luke Palmer lrpal...@gmail.com wrote:
So all in all there is no convincing argument for the restriction,
but at least two convincing arguments against.
When you say convincing, you are talking about yourself being
convinced, right? So this paragraph means The arguments against my
On 6 April 2010 14:28, Ertugrul Soeylemez e...@ertes.de wrote:
Luke Palmer lrpal...@gmail.com wrote:
When you say convincing, you are talking about yourself being
convinced, right? So this paragraph means The arguments against my
position haven't convinced me, but the arguments for my
On 04/05/2010 11:32 PM, Ivan Miljenovic wrote:
4) The people who support the policy don't see why anyone has a problem with it.
I have seen no logical explanation of *why* anybody supports this
policy. I've only seen vague hand-wavy statements like people who use
real names are more
Ivan Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6 April 2010 14:28, Ertugrul Soeylemez e...@ertes.de wrote:
Luke Palmer lrpal...@gmail.com wrote:
When you say convincing, you are talking about yourself being
convinced, right? So this paragraph means The arguments against my
position
This is a pretty terrible reason, but I'm going to throw it out there:
I like real names because they're much more aesthetically pleasing. In
my younger days, I once decided, Hey, I should get a pseudonym and I
picked something fairly ridiculous, just because everyone else was doing
it. I would
On 6 April 2010 15:52, Edward Z. Yang ezy...@mit.edu wrote:
This is a pretty terrible reason, but I'm going to throw it out there:
I like real names because they're much more aesthetically pleasing. In
my younger days, I once decided, Hey, I should get a pseudonym and I
picked something
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